Bump Stock Ban

[Stumplicker]

Ban asians.




Ban muslims.



Ban white people.

I suspect #3 will be the most popular suggestion.

Haha

[Astray]

Ban asians.

Keep the Koreans though, those people are amazing on rooftops during riots.

[Parkbandit]

No. Let's just ban the things it makes sense to ban.


2007. Virginia tech shooting. Deadliest school shooting in US history, and at the time, deadliest mass shooting in US history. 32 killed, 17 wounded.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Tech_shooting

2016. Orlando night club shooting - 49 killed. 53 wounded.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orland...tclub_shooting

2017. Las Vegas shooting. 58 killed, 851 wounded.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Las_Vegas_shooting

We've topped ourselves three times in the last 12 years for deadliest shootings. The most recent was a casualty increase of 900% compared to the next because of a product that nobody here or anywhere has a practical use for. It makes sense to ban it, whether you're "fucking American" or not. Whether you enjoy guns for recreational use or not (and I do, which you know).

So, out of all this, you believe that banning bump stocks is the solution and will prevent these from occurring again?

[~Rocktar~]

Bump stocks are largely seen as a toy by serious operators in the field. But the banning was less a concern about their loss but more the way the process was all jacked up in terms of the ATFs expansion of the definition of the term "machine gun" to encompass the stocks, thereby accomplishing the ban through the ATF's rulemaking authority rather than by legislative action. Such a power comes with serious implications when it comes to the technical nature of firearms.

Also, the whole "the NRA has mad Benjamins" is largely a trope of the uninformed. They had a lobbying expenditure of approximately $5 million in 2017 and 2018 which put them somewhere like 80th on the list. Hardly huge by any measure. What they do have is access to a deeply engaged, active corps of single-issue voters who are vocal, vote without fail, and as a bloc carry a significant amount of political power. Notwithstanding this, true 2A supporters are quite disappointed in how the NRA seemed to roll on the bump stock issue given what's at stake above.

This is correct.

[~Rocktar~]

So basically the argument can be boiled down to this:

"There is this scary thing that I don't see the need for so I want it banned. In defense of my indefensible position, I will argue about how morally justified I am because of some terrible events while ignoring the fact that plenty of other things can and have killed as many people or more in the US and the world but I am not yelling to ban those. Then when called out on the bullshit and having the slippery slope of banning such things pointed out as dangerous, I argue that it's ok to ban them because no one is yet making the transition down the slippery slope into other equally illegal, unjustified and absurd bans."

So, Stuplicker, are you male and do you agree with rape?

[Stumplicker]

So basically the argument can be boiled down to this:

"There is this scary thing that I don't see the need for so I want it banned. In defense of my indefensible position, I will argue about how morally justified I am because of some terrible events while ignoring the fact that plenty of other things can and have killed as many people or more in the US and the world but I am not yelling to ban those. Then when called out on the bullshit and having the slippery slope of banning such things pointed out as dangerous, I argue that it's ok to ban them because no one is yet making the transition down the slippery slope into other equally illegal, unjustified and absurd bans."

So, Stuplicker, are you male and do you agree with rape?

What the everloving fuck are you talking about? Literally none of that is accurate to anything that's been said here, from any standpoint.

[~Rocktar~]

What the everloving fuck are you talking about? Literally none of that is accurate to anything that's been said here, from any standpoint.

Talking about you dumbass and it is almost blow for blow your complete argument in this thread.

[Androidpk]

Don't pay attention to rocktard, he thinks people should be able to own nuclear weapons if they want.

[Astray]

Guess we have to build a new nation. Let's build a base out on the ocean.

[~Rocktar~]

Don't pay attention to rocktard, he thinks people should be able to own nuclear weapons if they want.

Still less dangerous than you supporting a murderous philosophy, murdering babies and surgically and chemically maiming teens in the name of diversity.