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    Washington Post is reporting tonight that Trump is now officially under investigation for obstruction of justice after firing FBI Director James Comey:


    The special counsel overseeing the investigation into Russia’s role in the 2016 election is interviewing senior intelligence officials as part of a widening probe that now includes an examination of whether President Trump attempted to obstruct justice, officials said.

    The move by special counsel Robert S. Mueller III to investigate Trump’s conduct marks a major turning point in the nearly year-old FBI investigation, which until recently focused on Russian meddling during the presidential campaign and on whether there was any coordination between the Trump campaign and the Kremlin. Investigators have also been looking for any evidence of possible financial crimes among Trump associates, officials said.
    A day or two after the March 22 meeting, Trump telephoned Coats and Rogers to separately ask them to issue public statements denying the existence of any evidence of coordination between his campaign and the Russian government.

    Coats and Rogers refused to comply with the president’s requests, officials said.

    It is unclear whether Ledgett had direct contact with Trump or other top officials about the Russia probe, but he wrote an internal NSA memo documenting the president’s phone call with Rogers, according to officials.
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    lol

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    That's actually not true.

    Remember that Impeachment is a political process, not a juridical one.

    If the argument is he could pardon himself pre-emptively before leaving office to prevent criminal prosecution...I don't believe that's ever been done, and it's VERY unlikely that it would be upheld.

    Regardless, he would either have to leave office or risk impeachment. Presidential pardoning doesn't affect the latter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by time4fun View Post
    That's actually not true.
    He sure as fuck can. Congress could still Impeach him though, and he couldn't pardon himself for anything after that Conviction.

    The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States; he may require the Opinion, in writing, of the principal Officer in each of the executive Departments, upon any Subject relating to the Duties of their respective Offices, and he shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by time4fun View Post
    Remember that Impeachment is a political process, not a juridical one.
    It's clearly talking about a criminal offense, not impeachment. Yes, the president has no control over an impeachment. I swear it's like explaining shit to a three year old with you.

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    Also- adding that accepting a Presidential pardon is an admission of guilt. It could backfire spectacularly if the pardon itself was overturned by SCOTUS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by time4fun View Post
    Also- adding that accepting a Presidential pardon is an admission of guilt. It could backfire spectacularly if the pardon itself was overturned by SCOTUS.
    Pardons aren't reviewed by SCOTUS. They can't overturn them, aslong as the meet the two criteria set out by the Constitution, offenses against the US (Federal) and not Impeachment.

    It is a power specifically granted the executive branch and not subject to judicial review or legislative revocation by Congress.
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    Quote Originally Posted by time4fun View Post
    Also- adding that accepting a Presidential pardon is an admission of guilt. It could backfire spectacularly if the pardon itself was overturned by SCOTUS.
    Jesus. How do you turn the computer on?

    You have to be trolling at this point.. no one could possibly be this retarded.
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