Hummmm, looking more and more like done by design. Kind of like Maui.
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Hummmm, looking more and more like done by design. Kind of like Maui.
https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...VQ&oe=687C3977
Gee whiz it's almost as if this is exactly what people said was going to happen immediately after the fires took place.Quote:
Originally Posted by ~Rocktar~
In before Back says the dumbest shit you've ever heard.
ROFLMAOQuote:
Originally Posted by Methais
I heard that only a small handful of permits have been approved for rebuild.....
Watch as land is picked up for low-incoming housing that permits will be pushed through right away.
Imagine how angry you'd be at the government if your house burned down, and then the government wouldn't let you rebuild it. And then, after a long period of time, lets squatters and low income houses get built on it.
I mean, just saying low income housing for BEACHFRONT PROPERTY is pretty fucking ridiculous as it is.
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Originally Posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage
What if Lex was trying to save the US from Kommiefornia? Too bad we didn't see it then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
Also if you had an older historic beachfront home in places like Pasadena, those lots now have to meet current 2025 California building code. Some of those homes built 100 years ago that burned down, it’s now virtually impossible to build on due to distance from the shore and all the crazy red tape that Cali has. It’s made those type of properties go from multimillion dollars to almost worthless.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage
Interesting article on the challenges those home owners face. Sell the burned out property or reclaim and rebuild. It's a loss either way. California set up rules to protect those affected by punishing anyone trying to take advantage with low-ball offers.
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/l-...rtune-953cabc7
I believe the city of LA is only ALLOWED to purchase. It is not FORCING people to sell to them.
Yeah, all they have to do is sit on permits for years or decades, which they ARE DOING and try and get people to give in. And then with a foothold, they will use imminent domain and take the rest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
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Originally Posted by Methais
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Originally Posted by Back
I can’t possibly imagine any conflict of interest of the city deciding when and how much it will cost you to rebuild your home also being a potential buyer of your property.
Also this is how the city of LA is helping these fire victims? Not by helping them rebuild but basically saying “oh gosh that sucks! Your land is worth a lot less money now…so…sell it to us dirt cheap?”
Yeah, if the city buys it should agree to pay the highest estimate and not compete with any private buyers. Ideally, whatever the market value of the property before the fire.
That’s not happening.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
Also, LA is on the verge of bankruptcy and yet still seem to find money for buying up burned down properties for low income housing & handing out cash cards to illegal aliens that are evading deportation.
And they are also handing out cash to "Take care of people" affected by ICE.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppressed Poet
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Originally Posted by Methais
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Originally Posted by Back
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Originally Posted by Suppressed Poet
Low income housing is a necessity. Or have you not noticed the average price of homes lately? The prices in LA are most likely higher than average. Working people need places to live too.Quote:
Originally Posted by ~Rocktar~
Also, those cash cards are privately funded.
Why are you so gullible?Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
How much oregano did you buy in high school?
Low income housing isn't for working people.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
This sanctuary city/state bullshit won't end until public officials are charged with crimes and actually face the criminal justice system.Quote:
Also, those cash cards are privately funded.
If you don't like having a border and you believe that people should come and go as they please: change the law. You can't just ignore the law because you don't like it.
How about they just loosen the fuck up with their bullshit permitting process and just let people rebuild now instead of stonewalling them with mountains of red tape?Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
What do you think about that idea Back?
No it's not and certainly not at the expense of stealing the homes and property of tax paying citizens. A lot of those homes that were burned were family homes of working people and retired working people but you don't give a fuck about them because that doesn't play well with the Leftist message.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
Right. I bet you are dumb enough to believe we can solve the homeless problem in America simply by building more houses and making them affordable. Of course you do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
By privately funded you mean George Soros and other Democrat OSFs and government NPOs?
Are you in favor of the city buying up these torched properties and making them into low income housing? Or should they just let the current owners rebuild without a ton of red tape?Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
Which is better?
No one is stealing property. You need to stop listening to the people who hate California, liberals, the left, and America. They're filling your mind with poison to turn you against your brothers and sisters. It's all coming down from the top. The billionaires want to fighting each other. They've got you convinced that it's the poorest, weakest, least threatening people on the planet who are your enemy. They do this so that you keep voting them in power so they can keep hoarding more and more for themselves.Quote:
Originally Posted by ~Rocktar~
Low income housing is important for society in many ways. Not only does it benefit low income individuals it benefits everyone else as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppressed Poet
Private money can be spent however they want to spend it. In this case it's going to people who need it the most. Why do you hate the poor?
It's not an either or proposition. It's all up to the owners. Maybe they have the money to rebuild maybe they don't. If they do they have to go through the regulations for construction like everybody else. Those regulations are in place for many reasons including safety and impact on the environment/neighborhood.Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
I know you're not asking these questions as any type of intellectual pursuit or constructive debate. You're just trying to set up got you questions. And you're not doing a good job of it.
So here is more of the details, this is purely a land grab by the Leftist government.
https://scontent-atl3-2.xx.fbcdn.net...kQ&oe=687DBE11
Let’s get our definitions straight… Making housing affordable through the free market economy is indeed important to me. Less important, but nevertheless still available, is government subsidies for low income people to afford housing. Any working citizen can apply and receive federal housing subsidy benefits as long as they meet the basic eligibility requirements. So why is this necessary?Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
I do not hate the poor. It does bother me that progressive commie NPOs are funding illegal immigrants that are trying to evade ICE & deportation. Why not instead take care of legal tax paying citizens that are in need? Karen Bass is doing all she can as mayor to impede the efforts of federal ICE enforcement, which is not her role as mayor.
Your graphic is incorrect. The bill is actually SB 658.Quote:
Originally Posted by ~Rocktar~
SB 663 extends property tax deadlines for rebuilding.
I don't know where the info is coming from for whoever made that graphic but it seems to be totally incorrect. Just another lie to get you mad and keep voting for the elites.
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Originally Posted by Back
The entire neighborhood burned to the ground, in large part because the government of California sucks at not turning California into a giant tinder box and because they couldn't keep enough water to fight the fires, but yeah sure, let's be sure we do an "environmental" impact study and make sure we aren't annoying our neighbor's lot filled with burned ruble.
If Los Angeles buys property it can protect the neighborhood by what is built there. Rather than having billionaires snatch up all the properties for condos to rent out to the bourgeoisie who are chasing the American dream or high rent strip malls for dollar stores. What? You think Los Angeles City is buying these properties to turn a hearty profit?Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppressed Poet
Legal citizens were being taken care of but now with the big bullshit bill vital medical and supplemental food services have been stripped from millions of them to add trillions to the debt and reward the few wealthy individuals who need help the least.
The regulations are in place to protect you and me from careless or heartless builders who would poison our blood with asbestos and other cheap building materials. The regulations allow for safe homes for people to live in that won't fall apart if someone leans on the wrong support beam. Regulations ensure that the electricity and gas lines are all connected correctly so that there are no fatal tragedies.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
Plus that fire was a tragedy dude. It wasn't negligence, it wasn't a purposeful blaze to evict citizens from beachfront property, that's fucking heartless batshit crazy fiction.
You know damn well none of that has anything to do with an environmental impact study. Or maybe you don't.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
I didn't say the fire itself was negligence. Try to keep up. I said California not doing a better job of clearing brush and dead vegetation and not ensuring there is enough water for firefighters to fight fires with was negligence.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
Surprise Back, you are wrong. California SB 658 is NOT the bill being discussed in the graphic. The graphic is correct and is referencing the correct law, SB 549.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
So here is the follow up from the person that made the graphic:
So, given the gross incompetence, maleficence and possible intentional malevolence in combination with this law, it is starting to look more and more intentional, if not the fire, the intent to steal people's land to advance the narrative while most likely profiting immensely after the fire.Quote:
The Hills Actor Spencer Pratt who lost his home in the Pacific Palisades fire put New LA legislation Democrats passed onto Grok 4 Heavy to understand it
“California senate has passed SB549 granting LA county AUTHORITY TO PURCHASE FIRE DESTROYED LOTS FOR MINIMAL COST”
“Directly contradicting Mr. Gavin Newsom's previous assurance to homeowners that such government driven property conversions wouldn't happen. It enables cities and counties to allocate property taxes to infrastructure districts from January 2026 mandating 40% affordable housing.
— It authorizes LA county to create a resilient rebuilding authority — It strips local control, creates a county authority that overrides city community decisions on rebuilding after the wildfires, centralizing power away from locals. An example the Pacific Palisades Input ignored enables rezoning without input allows rezoning for resilient. That's what it's called projects like infill housing transit without full resident approval displacement risk authority can buy land back”
“The people that are in charge of this bill, they're the people in charge of letting the whole town burn down.”
So fuck off and I hope the citizens sue the fuck out of the county and state for the permitting BS and for this blatant, criminal and unconstitutional land grab.
Honestly I think the City would be incapable of making a profit (due to incompetence and corruption) on those properties even if that is their intent. But it begs the question…why is this a priority for the city over simply helping the homeowners rebuild? At minimum the city is using this tragic natural disaster to advance their own political cause instead of helping the impacted victims.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
Legal citizens that work full time & earn under the 80% local median income threshold, disabled, volunteer 20 hours per week, or those actively seeking employment (and showing proof) will continue to be taken care of. Illegal aliens won’t be. It’s everyone’s tax dollars; not just the ultra rich. I don’t feel the least bit bad about the lazy freeloading leaches of society and illegal aliens loosing taxpayer funded healthcare & food subsidy benefits. That’s not what SNAP & Medicaid was designed for and the American people have spoken.
My bad. I looked at the California bill instead of the Los Angeles bill.Quote:
Originally Posted by ~Rocktar~
Still the whole point is that the city of Los Angeles isn't stealing land homeowners after a disaster so it can build affordable housing. That just doesn't make any sense at all. There's no profit motive, it would only engender distrust, would most likely be illegal in the first place, and it would probably cost more than any benefit.
What it sounds like to me is some white nationalist paranoid BS about replacing the white population with brown people.
Every time, Back. Every time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
I'll be reading one of your posts thinking to myself "Okay this is all pretty dumb, but not too bad." And suddenly BAM! You post something so stupid it boggles the mind.
How do you do it?
Jesus.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
That’s the ultimate out for any leftist that realizes they are on the losing side of an argument. Call us racist and end the conversation.
Just answer this Back, from a moral perspective which should the city prioritize:
A) Helping tax-paying property owners impacted by the fire to rebuild and make them whole.
OR
B) Fuck over said property owners and buy the land so they can create low-income housing.
Stealing people's land so you can profit off the corruption in the whole building process, then bringing in a much higher density of low income, low IQ, low effort voters living on the public dole, all so you can retain or expand Leftist power and continue your profiteering off the government nipple through all kinds of "charities" and NGOs AND keep yourself in office. It's a great Leftist trifecta/hat trick of corruption all supported by morons like you because "mah feels, those poor low income people". As always you and the Left want to fuck the people that earned their property and homes to buy votes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
Gods you are stupid and racist. Did you mother have any kids that lived?
“wE lIvE oN sToLeN lAnD!” -Backshots (probably)Quote:
Originally Posted by ~Rocktar~
You seriously are projecting so hard here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
You are like every other liberal Karen woman...
Why can't it just be about the issues.. and not some deep seeded guilt about your own racism?
The losing argument here is that the city of Los Angeles is stealing the land of the property owners after a natural disaster to build low income housing. That's so ridiculous.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppressed Poet
Where does this argument come from? Fear mongering conspiracy theorists amplified on right wing media by dark money that comes from the very wealthy and most likely foreign governments who want to see us in disarray.
I don't need to set you up for gotcha questions when you already say shit like:Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
The red tape and years of permitting process isn't "up to the owners" but you don't have the brainpower to process why that unjustly fucks people over and just happens to benefit the city in situations like this.Quote:
It's not an either or proposition. It's all up to the owners. Maybe they have the money to rebuild maybe they don't. If they do they have to go through the regulations for construction like everybody else. Those regulations are in place for many reasons including safety and impact on the environment/neighborhood.
Dumbass.
Los Angeles is providing notable and meaningful support: a dedicated center, permitting reforms, fee waivers, access to historic plans, and resilience incentives.
The biggest obstacle for Pacific Palisades homeowners trying to rebuild after the January 2025 wildfires is a combination of insurance issues and rising rebuilding costs—which together create a major financial and logistical barrier.
You're always good for a laugh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
So let me get this straight: LA is providing "notable and meaningful support" in the form of LA cutting their own red tape?
"Well normally we rake you over the coals with permitting fees, and more fees, and we don't allow you access to historic plans, but heck, we're so kind, we're gonna reduce some of that for ya! Remember to vote blue no matter who! Now get outta the way! We have thousands of dollars to hand to each illegal alien!"
ChatGPT much?Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
Stop posting shit you copy/paste from there... makes you look pathetic.
ETA: Sorry, more pathetic than usual.
Saying the city of Los Angeles is not helping is not correct. Insurance companies are the biggest obstacle. If you want to help LA homeowners rebuild lets talk about fixing what's really holding them up. The insurance companies.
Prove it. You won't, because you cannot, therefore fag level 10/5 achieved.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
Prove it. You won't, because you cannot, therefore fag level 10/5 achieved x2Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
He has no idea how recognizeable it is. And he never will.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
It's because he's stupid.
Hey Back, stop having ChatGPT write your posts for you, loser.
Hey Back what do you think about this?Quote:
Originally Posted by ~Rocktar~
Since it's a retweet of a tweet I would dig deeper. So I did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
It's true that the city of Los Angeles is only issued 2. However the county of Los Angeles has issued 90. Still, those are both a fraction of the applications that have been submitted.
I know the governor in the mayor have issued executive orders to help speed up the process and also set up a permitting shop close to the location to help speed things along. Unfortunately, even with that it seems to be moving at a snail's pace.
Having been through the process myself in a highly populated suburban area the process can take months. It will never be fast enough for anyone. But it's one of those things that we need to ensure that the buildings we are working and living in are safe for us to do so.
TLDR it sucks but it's just the bureaucracy at work.
Is bureaucracy a good thing?Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
Ultimately yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
It sucks when you're trying to get your home or business built but it's good when the house you live in doesn't burn to the ground because of faulty wiring, or your business falling over because of improper materials, and all the other tragedies that could befall people when corners are cut in the construction process.
Hopefully AI speeds things up in the coming years.
It's not. It's LIBERAL bureaucracy at work.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
And there inlies the problem... you believe Government is the answer to everything.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back