Nope. No second thoughts. People on Louisiana don't give a fuck about this though.
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Nope. No second thoughts. People on Louisiana don't give a fuck about this though.
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Originally Posted by Gelston
Say that to my face fucker not online and see what happens
I would but like, you are dead and your face is probably non existent now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taernath
I take it back. I think you'd get a lot of odd stares at the bar if it isn't a Saints or Cowboys jersey.
I wouldn't exactly consider Louisiana the most racially aware state. I think it has a higher degree of college love over NFL in general though, at least from my limited experience.
ur fkkn ded m8 me bruvs r gunna rek ur gob sware on me mumQuote:
Originally Posted by Gelston
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We are racially aware for two races. I think LSU football trumps Saints here though. I always see a lot more purple and gold than black and gold.Quote:
Originally Posted by Warriorbird
In the defense of 62% of you that are white and the 31% that are black they are by far the biggest totals. I doubt many thoughts get put elsewhere though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gelston
RE: college versus pro, in its own ridiculous way I think the NCAA does better on this count, so that's to Louisiana's credit.
Depends on where you are for race. More blacks than whites where I live. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?...t%2C_LouisianaQuote:
Originally Posted by Warriorbird
Yeah. Still balances out to that 93% total. Makes sense that black Louisianans are more comfortable with cities than countries.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gelston
Racist! Saying black people only live in cities.Quote:
Originally Posted by Warriorbird
Yes, I'm so awful. Discussing higher percentages!Quote:
Originally Posted by Gelston
People give a fuck about LSU way too much down here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Warriorbird
To its credit its one of the things that brings y'all together.Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
You live closer to LSU than I do. We are fucking fanatics here, what would you expect there?Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
Denzel Washington refused to use the R word in an interview. Denzel Washington! That's got to be a tipping point.
But what will people complain about if they can't complain about the name Redskins anymore? Will they then start protesting to change the color of the football because the one that's always been used is brown and therefore is racist? Will they complain about the goalposts being white, saying it's racist because it's an indicator that you have to reach white to get ahead?
...surely the goalposts are yellow?Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
And I tell you what, you agree to change the Washington name and I'll agree not to protest the color of the football. Deal?
My mistake. Still, yellow would be even more racist because it's telling black people to become asian.Quote:
Originally Posted by Latrinsorm
Fair enough. They can call them the DC Redskins.Quote:
And I tell you what, you agree to change the Washington name and I'll agree not to protest the color of the football. Deal?
They should hire *for one game* a bunch of actual-Indian football players. Just for one game. Then nobody could bitch.
Nobody should really bitch about a lot of things but it happens anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by JackWhisper
You have no room to talk. There are victims going through withdrawal since you're banned. YOU ARE CAUSING AN EPIDEMIC.
LOL, how so?Quote:
Originally Posted by JackWhisper
So I've heard.Quote:
Originally Posted by JackWhisper
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A GW law professor challenged a local radio station’s on-air use of the word "Redskins," the controversial name of D.C.'s football franchise, this week.
John Banzhaf, a law professor who focuses on legal activism, is trying to push the Federal Communication Commission to label the word a racial slur, which would prohibit its use on the air. He filed a complaint against WWXX-FM, an ESPN affiliate owned by the team's owner Dan Snyder, arguing that the license for the station should not be renewed because broadcasters now use the term.
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Seven -- no, make that eight -- dirty words.Quote:
If the FCC approves prohibiting the word from the air, a station that uses the team's name could lose its license to report on the airwaves.
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When the US patent office cancelled the Washington Redskins trademark earlier this year in a bid to force the team to change its offensive name and logo, it made it much easier for other people to use the organization's branding to advertise their own products or services. The latest person to do just that is a fat little animated ten-year-old named Eric Cartman.
South Park has sent the infamous Cartman out to satirize team owner Dan Snyder's repeated arguments that the "Redskins" moniker is not offensive. In a short clip poste ahead of the start of the show's eighteenth season on Wednesday, Snyder comes to Cartman's office to argue that by calling a new company "The Washington Redskins," he's being derogatory to the team's owners. Cartman parrots Snyder's real life arguments right back to him, saying he chose to use the name out of "deep appreciation for your team, and your people."
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnK-jYzaWtw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnK-jYzaWtw
Was this something to call the police about?
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A Washington Redskins fan called the police after producers of The Daily Show set up a tense encounter between a group of the team's supporters and Native Americans activists.
Kelli O'Dell, 56, ran out of the room in tears after the heated confrontation that took place during filming of the yet-to-air episode at the Dupont Circle Hotel in Washington D.C.
The former teacher described how she was accused of 'psychologically damaging' Native American children and claims was 'cut off' every time she tried to speak.
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Here's the episode. http://thedailyshow.cc.com/videos/18...atching-racismQuote:
Originally Posted by ClydeR
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Originally Posted by ClydeR
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(CNN) -- A Native American chief has asked all tribal employees not to use FedEx until the Washington Redskins changes its team name.
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FedEx is still claiming that there naming rights relate to stuff done at the stadium other than football.Quote:
The Redskins play their home games at FedExField, to which the shipping giant purchased the naming rights in a 27-year, $207 million deal in 1999, Forbes reports. Fred Smith, FedEx's chairman, president and CEO, is part ofthe team's ownership group.
Patrick Fitzgerald, FedEx's senior vice president of marketing and communications, released a statement Wednesday saying that his employer values its sponsorship of the stadium and "we are proud that FedExField is a venue that is used by a wide range of community groups."
As I pre-reported two weeks ago..
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The FCC, which enforces broadcast indecency violations, has received a petition from legal activist John Banzhaf III, asking that regulators strip local radio station WWXX-FM of its broadcasting license when it comes up for renewal for using the name "Redskins."
Banzhaf says the word is racist, derogatory, profane and hateful, making its use "akin to broadcasting obscenity."
"We'll be looking at that petition, we will be dealing with that issue on the merits and we'll be responding accordingly," FCC Chairman Tom Wheeler told reporters.
"There are a lot of names and descriptions that were used over time that are inappropriate today. And I think the name that is attributed to the Washington football club is one of those," Wheeler added.
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It's time we revisit Charles Krauthammer's column from one year ago, which is what got a lot of us conservatives started opposing the name of Washington's team. In his usual fashion, he made some really good points. You should read the whole thing, but this is the key point..
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And here’s the key point: You would stop not because of the language police. Not because you might incur a Bob Costas harangue. Not because the president would wag a finger. But simply because the word was tainted, freighted with negative connotations with which you would not want to be associated.
Proof? You wouldn’t even use the word in private, where being harassed for political incorrectness is not an issue.
Similarly, regarding the further racial breakdown of Congress, you wouldn’t say: “And by my count, there are two redskins.” It’s inconceivable, because no matter how the word was used 80 years ago, it carries invidious connotations today.
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You bumped this thread by bumping a year old quote?Quote:
Originally Posted by ClydeR
You are the epitome of a Packer.
Ebola seems like it sort of knocked all of the NFL controversies out of the news, including the Redskin stuff.
Are you suggesting that Roger Goodell is a Republican?
No, of course not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
You should have waited a year to respond to that. Worst trolling ever.Quote:
Originally Posted by ClydeR
Yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by ClydeR
That website has way too many ads.
The article was click-bait with zero content.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gelston
Is this guy also petitioning the FCC to strip radio stations of their broadcasting license for playing rap songs with the word nigger or nigga in it? if not he should shut the fuck up and go away.Quote:
Originally Posted by ClydeR
Attachment 7056Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
Awesome site dude. Is this were you get all your news?
Pretty sure they get bleeped or edited for radio.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarvan
Maybe forward that ad over to PB.Quote:
Originally Posted by waywardgs
Everyone knows all it takes for something not to be racist is for one person of that race to say it isn't.
Apparently that guy in the first ad has a secret that grocery stores don't want you to know.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gelston
Don't be mad because your mom still has her wrinkles!Quote:
Originally Posted by waywardgs
There was actually a link in there to the full story from another site that wasn't packed with ads that was supposed to be the pasted link that I was too lazy to go fix after. And now this site won't load up at all, so you'll just have to deal with wrinkles.
You mean like how all it takes for something to be racist is for one person of that race (unless they're white) to say it is?Quote:
Originally Posted by Taernath
The conservative case for changing the name is gaining steam.Quote:
MINNEAPOLIS (AP) - Thousands of people rallied outside the stadium in Minnesota before the Redskins-Vikings game, the latest protest against Washington's divisive nickname.
Organizers estimated the crowd around 5,000 on Sunday morning.
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How about we change the name and give ownership of the team to the original Americans? How about we give all the land back and put them in power?
I tend to prefer "let them have casinos to take advantage of the fat white people from WALL-E." It might actually happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
Not likely. Child obesity rates are down 43%.Quote:
Originally Posted by Warriorbird
http://rack.1.mshcdn.com/media/ZgkyM...-Rap-Album.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by Gelston
So you tend to prefer "sorry we took your land but we will give you a bone to make us feel less worse about it".Quote:
Originally Posted by Warriorbird
No. I prefer reality above a magic fantasyland with clouds and ponies. I'd also like my Indian friends to have a chance at awesome economic success. I'm clearly a racist.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
You just stated that you thought giving them casinos was enough to settle the injustice they suffered.Quote:
Originally Posted by Warriorbird
Reality is what we make it.
The chance at awesome economic success has many variables but I'm pretty sure you are aware the deck is stacked.
Everyone is racist.
I didn't actually say that. I said I preferred reality to your magical thinking scheme. I'm all about stacking the deck in the right people's favor when they've been wronged.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
LolQuote:
Originally Posted by Warriorbird
We just landed a probe on a comet 300 million miles away so your argument that "unicorns, magic, and rainbows don't exist so we can't do this or that" is pure bullshit. I'm surprised.Quote:
Originally Posted by Warriorbird
How about giving the deck back to the original owner?
They lost it fair and square.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
Why are they the only class of people in the history of the world that deserves a settling of their "injustice"?Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
Indians get a house! You get a house! Everybody gets a house!Quote:
Originally Posted by Thondalar
These people haven't suffered that particular injustice though, some of their ancestors did. And if we used your logic, where does giving the land back to the original people end? You like to talk often about the future, so why dwell in the past? Why not work on progressing and moving on instead of something idiotic?Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
The people who landed that probe on the comet can't put the toothpaste back in the tube. What are you proposing anyway? Everyone leave North America? Dismantle the government? What does giving the deck back actually mean?Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
Idiotic?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeril
Lets say someone steals an iPhone from someone else and you know the person who stole the iPhone. Are you just going to keep your mouth shut because you know the person who stole the iPhone?
Whoa, the probe found unicorns on that comet??? I WANT A UNICORN.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
So we give up our country because they got here 7500 years earlier? Got it. I'm very interested at hearing about where we'll relocate to.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
Are you going to sacrifice yourself in a cenote for penance? If so, I call last in line.
We don't have to move. Just give it all back and let them rule their own lands. Of course, if someone did not like the way they ruled they could leave.Quote:
Originally Posted by Warriorbird
I hear comets are hot right now...Quote:
Originally Posted by Warriorbird
I hear being complacent, submissive, acquiescent, and lazy are hot too. But I'm against that grain.Quote:
Originally Posted by waywardgs
So let me get this straight. Your belief is that the entirely of the US should be turned over to about 3 million people and the other 315 or so million should just go back to where they come from? I have about seven European countries in my family history, which one should I go to? And where do all the people already there go to?Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
And if everybody is going back where they came from, shouldn't "Native Americans" be going back to somewhere in Asia too?
I'm not suggesting we leave. I'm just suggesting they be given the rule of the land we live on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tenlaar
They were doing fine before we overwhelmed them with numbers, diseased blankets, firewater, guns, and the psychosis of Christian religion.
Back... This is a completely unrealistic and unreasonable proposition. By any stretch. Complacency has nothing to do with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
Back, please stop shooting up heroin.
They lost. We won. Get over it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
This has what to do with anything being discussed in this thread?Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
With all the injustices done to the native people of "America" the topic of the name of a football team is absurd?
I want to know how the theft of an iPhone is anywhere near equal in your mind to what had happened. Everything has changed so much compared to back then that what you are asking is like trying to shove a dead chicken back into an egg.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
So if someone walks into your house and says it is now theirs and they have the numbers and firepower to take it... you are ok with that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Thondalar
Oh, so you just think 3 million people should be given complete unquestioned rule over 315 million people who at no point in their lives, their parents lives, their grandparents or great grandparents lives, ever had anything to do with those people losing their land. That's totally reasonable and realistic and would not at all end in the deaths of 3 million people.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
You know, there was a time that I thought it was really unjustified how often and forcefully certain people told you that you were retarded. But you just...kept...posting...
For one thing, I have the firepower to defend my house. For another, there were no laws against taking America.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
Because libtards of that level of ignorance can't actually comprehend the injustices they marginalize with such comparisons.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeril
Do you have a tank or an air bombing drone?Quote:
Originally Posted by Thondalar
You talk about laws. You don't think that the people who lived here before we nearly genocided them had laws?
I'd like to point out who is using derogatory terms against who in this conversation about reversing past injustices.
You do understand that this was a conflict between Nations, and not a home invasion, right? You do understand that similar things have happened throughout history in every habitable area of the planet, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
What would it take to alleviate your white guilt, Back? Something realistic. Anything?
You're implying that every living non-Native American US citizen is responsible for things that happened hundreds of years before any of us were alive and should lose the ability to govern ourselves because of it and think that anybody should take you in any way seriously?Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
A conflict between nations? Please! It was straight up conquest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thondalar
What would it take for you to admit that aggression is wrong?
I have some injun blood in me. I bet lots of people in America do. Do we all become members of this elite ruling class in Back's fantasy world?
You always talk up about income disparity too... So, what exactly do you think would happen here to the overwhelming majority of Americans?
You speak of stolen iPhones and home invasion too. Yes, that'd be a bad thing. Yes, that shit can't be allowed. That is also something that would be happening between currently living people and not people who died a long time ago. I never stole anyone's land. The Natives that are alive today didn't have their land stolen. Stop being ridiculous.
How about we start being really responsible instead of rationalizing our acts as just. Thats as insane and dangerous as fundamental religion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gelston
We AREN'T responsible for things that happened before we were alive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
If we bear the legacy of our ancestors, and inherit from them, I would say we are.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tenlaar
You know what would be insane and dangerous? Telling everyone in America they no longer own their house.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
And that is the ridiculous part. People are only responsible for their own actions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
That does seem to be your take. Me, I think the football team is tacky. Your stance is even more ridiculous.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
You know whats really dangerous? Justifying genocide, conquest, and aggression in the name of claiming to have a just stance due to a fantasy unicorn like religion.Quote:
Originally Posted by waywardgs
Well, to be fair, that's true about individuals but not countries. Nations have a responsibility to their history and actions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tenlaar
Again, you act like this is the first time that's ever happened. It's actually quite commonplace. I'm sure you're aware that the areas controlled by the various Indian Nations at the time of our westward expansions were, themselves, the spoils of conquest, right? The Indian tribes weren't all happy-go-lucky smoking peace pipes with each other and frolicking in the fields before we got there, bro.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
The non-aggression principle is the cornerstone of my political and moral beliefs.Quote:
What would it take for you to admit that aggression is wrong?
What is ridiculous is you straddling the popularity aspect of this shit hole.Quote:
Originally Posted by Warriorbird
How do you reconcile that with conquest?Quote:
Originally Posted by Thondalar
I don't.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
Popularity aspect? You realize you sound totally crazy here. If you're not trolling I feel really bad for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
My ancestors came here from Italy in the early 1900s, so I'm good, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
What have you done to right the wrongs of your ancestors?
Nope. Romans came outta Italy. You're fucked.Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
Yep. Your roman ancestors owe the Germans, but the Germans owe the Jews, but the Jews are rich anyway so Back is against that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gelston
Okay, so let's start rounding up all Germans that may have descended from the Nazis and gas them. Also the Egyptians, and we should totally smash down the pyramids while we're at it. All people in the US who are descended from slave owners should be punished for their ancestors crimes too, can't forget them. Let's just nuke Australia from space, since we know they're all descended from criminals. The list goes on and on. If you punish everyone for the crimes of their ancestors, there will be no one left to benefit from it. Stop being fucking ridiculous.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
Have I insulted you in any way directly? Or slandered you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Thondalar
You may not agree with me but do you disagree with me so vehemently that you need to be an asshole?
Germany has made HUGE reparations to Israel. You obviously were not aware of that.Quote:
Originally Posted by diethx
Just to Israel? What about to the descendants of Jews from other countries? Poland? Romania? Not all Jews are Israeli.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
Apart from the sanitation, the medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, the fresh-water system, and public health, what have the Romans ever done for us?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gelston
Now you are just jumping on the argue train.Quote:
Originally Posted by diethx
Not all Israelis are jews.
But, there is another area we need to address. Along with the Indian/Pakistan border, and every other religious zealot who was so absurdly ignorant and arrogant to think that their "unicorn fantasy" was better than everyone else's.
I'm not jumping on any trains. I'm pointing out the ridiculousness of your proposition, much like everyone else in this thread. I wonder why you don't agree with my other solutions to all of the injustices of this world? I mean, if we do it for the Native Americans, don't we have to do it for everyone? That would just be otherwise unfair.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
Also, not sure what "not all Israelis are Jews" has anything to do with anything I said, but okay.
Back, please answer because I have to know.
My ancestors came here from Italy in the early 1900s, so I'm good, right? Other than that whole Romans thing anyway.
What have you done to right the wrongs of your ancestors?
Also, I got mugged by a black guy in Atlantic City when I was 11. What should blacks as a race be doing to make that up to me?
Don't forget all the descendants of the Africans that sold other Africans to slavers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
Yes. Back... I get that people of faith are an easy target for people like you who are easy targets for everyone, but you're obviously impaired in some way. You don't make sense. At all. And you just keep on not making sense. I suggest you lose the drugs/alcohol, find Jesus, a logic teacher, a dictionary and just start over. The retarded godless bleeding heart liberal ignoramus angle isn't serving you. You're welcome.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
Edit: also, clowns.
Ugh, the only thing the planet needs less than another idiot is another idiot who believes in fairy tales.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wrathbringer
How far back in history do you believe we should go back and make things "right"?Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
You KNOW he's high right now... ON MARIJUANA!Quote:
Originally Posted by Androidpk
Stop.. you know he's not trolling.. but will later on say "Ha, got you guys... I was just trolling! Good one, yea?!"Quote:
Originally Posted by Warriorbird
How far back should we go? Why, all the way of course!
Wasn't Eve the one who took and bit the apple first? Snap.
Men deserve reparations from women from the beginning of time!
That's what this thread is about, right?
:thinking: :forehead:
You killed Jesus. How are you gonna fix that one?Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
Jesus wanted to die though, so it was more like assisted suicide or manslaughter.Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCranium
By joining the People's Front of Judea!Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCranium
:rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCranium
You are responsible for the crusades. To alleviate this sin, I think you should go to Iran, walk into their government building, and tell them that you killed millions of Muslims and wish to atone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
Afterwards, let me know how that went.
I'll hold a seance.
TRANSLATION: http://media.tumblr.com/dc7a8b709b5e...bb91rnvwt1.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by Back
Are you gonna lead by example by giving up your residence and/or leaving the country?Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
I didn't think so.
I'm still waiting for him to pay my bills so I don't have to work anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
No.. you didn't read all his posts, he says we don't HAVE to leave. He just wants them in charge. Not sure exactly on land ownership tho.. prolly wants to give them the land back as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
You know.. it's really sad when a Democrat liberal wants to make 315 million people instantly homeless. because, you know, I am SURE those 3 million people will, out of the kindness of their hearts, let us all live in a home for free.
Back does have the right idea tho.. no no.. hear me out.
Since magic fantasy lands and unicorns are real now.. why don't we just take the 3 million Indians... and either send them back in time to live with their own people, thereby giving them their land back... OR... we could open a portal to a parallel world where the Indians Won. That would solve his problem as well. Would that work for you Back?
This is where Back will respond with either a deflection in the form of some random question that has little or nothing to do with whatever post he quotes, or just something totally random altogether.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarvan
So, Redskins. My team! Ya know what strikes me as odd about the annual controversy over a football team's name? Why does it matter at all what the team is called? I mean would it make a difference if they were the Washington Warriors instead of the Washington Redskins? Keep the logo. Just change it to an honorable name instead of a derogatory?
I get that it's not a big deal to a lot of people. But that's why I don't understand the resistance. If it's not a big deal, then why is it...a big deal? It's a football team for fuck's sake! Who gives a crap?
~Taverkin
I think they should change their name to the Washington Scalpers. It's something that many difference cultures practiced, and native americans did to each other before we even came here. I can't imagine them having a problem with that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hightower
On a side note... the team could then sell tickets for 10x the ticket price outside the stadium and claim it's just part of the franchise theme.
Actually, Adam was with her when the snake offered the fruit and he said nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by JackWhisper
I still think they should keep the name but change the mascot to a potato.
I thought he was out somewhere else, fapping or afk scripting or whatever, and then she rolled up and was like "HEY ADAM CHECK THIS SHIT OUT..."?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wrathbringer
WB you just proved my point. She took and bit the apple first.
Reparations time! Blowies and Neoguri noodles for every man on Earth!
I don't care about the apple, I want my rib back.Quote:
Originally Posted by JackWhisper
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...least-27-yearsQuote:
Originally Posted by Gelston
You're such a Packer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hightower
Simmer down, Packbandit.
Reality Check: The Washington Redskins are not going to change their name. You can cry, hold your breath, stomp your feet, and whine to Mommy all you want, but it is just not going to happen barring a Federal Court order to make the team do so (and good luck with that...)
Can we let this thread die now?
Let's assume they do change it. Who is gonna pay for the replacement of all the Redskins gear? Not only the official team-related stuff...uniforms, helmets, advertising, etc...but the fan gear too? How do you plan on replacing millions of hats, shirts, jerseys, key chains, wallets, watches, beanies, sweaters, hoodies?
We have to replace them, because otherwise this travesty will continue for at least another two or three generations. Although I suppose all of those racists should have known better when they bought it in the first place.
Lets not forget then 100's of millions of Madden games that have to be remade and given back to the buyers. I mean.. we don't want some kid 10 years from now loading up a Madden 2012 game in his dad's Playstation and seeing the name Washington Redskins! Think of the horror it would inflict on that kid. EA sports MUST right this minute delete Redskins from ALL software they have made that is available to the public!Quote:
Originally Posted by Thondalar
These changes are always profitable for the team. Why do you think they keep designing alternate jerseys/logos/etc. that are uniformly hideous? Do you really think the Titans / Pelicans / Hornets / Rays changed their names and took a loss?Quote:
Originally Posted by Thondalar
This has nothing to do with what I said.Quote:
Originally Posted by Latrinsorm
"Who is gonna pay for the replacement of all the Redskins gear?"Quote:
Originally Posted by Thondalar
The fans.
Hence, profit for the team.
Lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Latrinsorm
I think Latrin has a point. All the old stuff would become "collectable" and everyone would buy up the new stuff anyway. Double profit win.
I give you...Backtrinsorm.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
Since this is something that everyone would need to be on board with its obvious it won't happen. Lots of interesting reactions to the idea. I was surprised at how upset some people got over the mere suggestion of it. If it were to happen there would be tons of details to work out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
http://www.mixednutsclowns.com/wpimages/wpa329ce6a.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by Back
One person can make a difference, Back. Show us the way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
Or do you think everyone else should go first, and then you after?
http://www.mixednutsclowns.com/wpimages/wpa329ce6a.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by Wrathbringer
Sweet Jesus.... why are you such a Packer all the time?Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
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Originally Posted by Thondalar
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Originally Posted by Latrinsorm
LOL
Because people on welfare, for some reason, usually have more guns, and are more willing to fire them. Duh.
http://www.gifsforum.com/images/imag...if_serious.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by Warriorbird
Just eat the fucking turkey!
Guy makes a fairly reasonable statement which is then extrapolated into a strawman. Love it. 10/10
I'm pretty sure whoever made that comic has been to the PC and read Back's posts at one point or another.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taernath
That would explain why one of the characters is modeled on Latrinsorm.Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
Um maybe you didn't notice, but he's wearing a scarf? Therefore he's wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taernath
See? But if I'm always wrong, and I say I was wrong... then I'd be right, but... wait...Quote:
That would explain why one of the characters is modeled on Latrinsorm.
Nobody said you're always wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Latrinsorm
Just usually.
Fuck that bitch and her turkey!
Your comic uses the same quality type of argument.Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
Why do you hate women?Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
Women AND Poultry.Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
The eventual outcome of this dispute is clear.
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According to Deadspin, announcers for NFL games used the word "Redskins" 472 times fewer than they did during the 2013 season, which marks a decrease in usage of 27 percent. The team name was used a mere 13 times during broadcasts on Sunday. It was expected that the team name would be used less frequently amid the controversy, but exactly how much proved rather startling.
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Keep the logo and change the name to the team formerly known as the Redskins.
I'm the shartist formerly known as wrathbringer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
The Fritz Pollard Alliance moves slowly and methodically. This is a big deal.Quote:
After failing for months to persuade Washington Redskins owner Daniel Snyder to meet with Native Americans opposed to the team’s name, a prominent civil rights organization that works closely with the National Football League is calling for the moniker to change.
Leaders of the Fritz Pollard Alliance — an influential nonprofit group that was instrumental in forcing the league to revise its minority-hiring practices — said they tried to discuss the issue with Snyder at an intense August meeting. Instead, they said, they were shouted down by the executive director of the foundation he created to help Native Americans.
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Tigerlilly is hot. Also, that was as incredibly racist as I remember it.
Yeah, I know, them showing white people as effeminate, British speaking, flying fairies in tights.Quote:
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I dunno. I haven't met a non effeminate, fairy-like British person. Have you?Quote:
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Graham NortonQuote:
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You're absolutely right. He is all that is man.Quote:
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The Washington Redskins are back in the spotlight again. This past June, the US Patent and Trademark office canceled six trademarks belonging to the NFL team, claiming the name and mascot were "disparaging to Native Americans." Now, the ACLU has appealed the decision on the grounds that the cancellation violates the First Amendment.
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This is why conservatives don't like the ACLU. I have repeatedly pointed out the conservative case against the team's name. Right on cue, here come the liberals to rescue evil.
That's actually highly amusing.Quote:
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It's only a matter of time.Quote:
WASHINGTON — The Washington Redskins long defense of their controversial nickname may soon face its toughest challenge. It’s not the American Indian marketing campaign, the U.S. Trademark ruling or courts that could force change, though.
It’s the Associated Press stylebook.
The AP stylebook review committee is considering whether Redskins is an offensive term and should be removed from its stories. This is not another far-flung paper, liberal magazine, individual TV announcer or other media outlets that frankly don’t matter.
This is the kingpin of American journalism that resonates throughout every newspaper, website and broadcast. This is one of the world’s leading news outlets that reach nearly every country. Maybe AP doesn’t have the power it once wielded before the internet, but there’s still enough to ripple the waters.
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I hope they win the Super Bowl every year from now on.
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Add the Organization of American Historians to the list of groups calling on the Washington Redskins football team to change its name and logo.
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Pressure is building.Quote:
On the Web site of the History News Network at George Mason University, Loewen detailed the reasons he wanted the organization to take this stand in a piece titled, “Why Historians Should Demand the Redskins Change Their Name.” I am publishing it with permission:
Change the name to Cowboy Scalpers.
This is one of those rare bipartisan moments when Republicans can agree with Harry Reid on something. How dare the NFL suspend the great Tom Brady for twice as long as they suspended Ray Rice, when they can't even prove that Brady did anything? And at the same time they let Washington continue to use an historically offensive team name that is literally based on skin color?
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You're gayQuote:
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And why is Harry Reid wearing sunglasses?
He got his ass kicked. By a "treadmill"Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
Wasn't that like 2 months ago?Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
Vegas mafia, treadmill.. what difference does it make.
January.Quote:
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I'm curious how any sort of treadmill accident results in any eye injury at all, nevermind one that gives you a black eye for 4 months.Quote:
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Old people heal slower than young people.Quote:
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Also, I'd like to add a preemptive fuck you.
WHAT DID I DO NOW?!?!?!?!/1/Quote:
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More evidence of racism in the Washington team..
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But Washington Redskins GM Scot McCloughan says Harper would not play cornerback — not necessarily because he lacks the speed for the position, but because he lacks the melanin. From an interview with 106.7 The Fan:
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I went to a game a couple weeks ago, and he flipped his hips and caught a fly ball out in right field in the corner, and I thought, maybe [cornerback]. But I’m thinking, uhh, okay, no, he’s gotta be a safety. He’s a white guy.
Though the boycotts have been slow to start, the Tlingits have broken the logjam.
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Until FedEx pulls its sponsorship or Washington, D.C.’s NFL team changes its name, the shipping giant can expect to lose business from Alaska’s largest tribe.
Central Council of Tlingit and Haida Indian Tribes of Alaska announced Thursday that it had notified tribal employees that use of FedEx services would be discontinued until the company disassociates itself from the Redskins football team it sponsors because many consider the name to be derogatory to indigenous peoples.
FedEx is one of the team’s top sponsors and purchased naming rights to the team’s stadium in 1999.
“This isn’t anti-FedEx. We are exercising our strength financially,” Tribal President Richard Peterson said. “If you actively support entities, in this case specifically a sports franchise that has a mascot and name derogatory to our people, we’re going to spend our dollars elsewhere — that’s us voting with our dollars.”
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And there's this..
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The United Church of Christ has called for the Washington Redskins to change its name, announcing on Monday that it has asked its nearly 1 million members to boycott all team games and merchandise until the moniker is dropped.
“The use of the term ‘Redskins’ for the team mascot and nickname of the Washington football team is offensive and causes direct harmful effects to the public health and well-being of the Native American population,” the Rev. Linda Jaramillo, a national officer of the church, said in a statement.
The church is just the latest public organization or person to come out against the name, including President Obama, 50 U.S. senators, a parade of sports columnists and the Fritz Pollard Alliance — an influential nonprofit group that was instrumental in forcing the league to revise its minority-hiring practice.
In a joint statement, both the National Congress of American Indians and the Oneida Indian Nation, which has led the push for a name change, offered support for the church’s decision: “We are honored to partner with the United Church of Christ in their effort to help relegate this offensive and outdated slur to the dustbin of history.”
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This Washington Post DC Sports Blog asks you to choose whether a quote defends the Confederate flag or the Redskins name. I scored 50%. Can you do better?
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In an move to pressure the Washington Redskins football organization, US Interior Secretary Sally Jewell said that her office will likely bar the team’s plans to build a new stadium in Washington, DC unless it changes its name—which is seen as racist toward Native Americans.
Jewell oversees America’s trust lands and treaties with Native American tribes and the National Park Service which owns the land where the team wants to rebuild its stadium. She called the team’s name “a relic of the past.”
“Personally, I think we would never consider naming a team the ‘Blackskins’ or the ‘Brownskins’ or the ‘Whiteskins,’ ” Jewell told ABC News. The term “redskin” has been associated with the practice of killing Native Americans for bounty or a scalped head sold for cash.
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A court upheld the trademark office decision..
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A federal judge on Wednesday ruled against the Washington Redskins in the legal dispute over last year’s cancellation of the football team’s trademark.
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WASHINGTON -- Eleanor Holmes Norton, the District of Columbia's delegate to Congress, introduced a bill that would lift the NFL's antitrust exemption if the Washington Redskins do not change their nickname.
In a news release issued Thursday, Norton was quoted as saying Washington "should always be associated with pride, not with a moniker that mocks and insults Native Americans."
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Why was the NFL given antitrust protection in the first place? Wasn't being tax exempt good enough?
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In a news release issued Thursday, Norton was quoted as saying Washington "should always be associated with pride, not with a moniker that mocks and insults Native Americans."
As if Washington doesn't mock and insult all Americans.
If the outcome of a play is not clear, then it should be called in favor of the team that does not have a racist name. But only when it's not clear.Quote:
So much controversy surrounds the naming issue that defensive end Jason Hatcher recently suggested that referees were possibly making calls against the team due to its name.
"I'm not saying this out of character to get fined, but it is what it is," Hatcher said after Washington's 44-16 loss Nov. 22 to the Carolina Panthers. "I don't know if it's about the name or what, but at the same time, we play football too. We work our butt off too. Don't single us out. At the end of the day, it's the name. Don't worry about the name we players and we work our butt off too. I'm just frustrated with it. We shouldn't have to be punished for that. It's been every game, calls after calls that should've been made in our favor, but it goes to them. It's just not right. We in the league too. We're National Football players. We got a team too. We go out there, and we sweat and work hard too. I don't give a crap about the name. We are players. We've got feelings too, and we want to win too."
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ClydeR has always been such a packer.