Things that made you Facepalm today (Political Version)

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Originally Posted by ~Rocktar~

Surprised you are upset, this IS what you voted for. Amnesty, soft on crime, open borders, financial ruin and so on. All because Orange Man Bad and you didn't like mean tweets.

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Strangely enough, I don't recall soft on crime, financial ruin or massive untaxed payouts to illegal immigrants being on the candidate summary page. Must have been on page two. Nor do I think soft on crime or financial ruin applies to Biden nor the specific situation I posted about. Soft on immigration, absolutely. Poor use of taxpayer funds, for sure.

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Originally Posted by Shaps

Didn't expect this response from Seran... odd, in a good way.

Told you... eventually they'll come for something you care about. All far-leftists understand is sowing division, hate, and distrust to try and retain power... and it works for awhile, because ignorant people think and believe they "mean well"... humans are going to human, and the wheel goes around.

Shame took you this long to realize it Seran. Hopefully you start using your brain instead of partisan talking points your puppet-masters keep telling you.

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So let's look it it then on a constructive manner.

Of the 11-12 million immigrants here illegally, for the most part those who are of working age do so and support their families. If we were to simply deport the lot of them, business and the housing markets would feel the repercussions. So why not a definitive course to citizen in terms of naturalization. If you're self-supporting, have not committed a crime since entering and have taken steps to learn the language, a fast track to probationary citizenship should be granted. I hear the concerns about swelling voter rolls but don't necessarily think so many will automatically lean left. But as a compromise, lets say the first 3-5 years of the probationary citizenship will not grant voting privileges. At the end of the fourth year, provided the person continues to be self-supporting and paid taxes, then full citizenship and the associated rights ought to be granted.

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Originally Posted by Seran

Strangely enough, I don't recall soft on crime, financial ruin or massive untaxed payouts to illegal immigrants being on the candidate summary page. Must have been on page two.

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Weird, everyone else seemed to see it coming since before the election even happened.

Are you surprised that democrats lie or something?

This is why thinking for yourself instead of letting CNN tell you what to believe is important.

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Originally Posted by Seran

Strangely enough, I don't recall soft on crime, financial ruin or massive untaxed payouts to illegal immigrants being on the candidate summary page. Must have been on page two. Nor do I think soft on crime or financial ruin applies to Biden nor the specific situation I posted about. Soft on immigration, absolutely. Poor use of taxpayer funds, for sure.

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No candidate will run on "I'll be soft on crime, shitty at the economy and I'll open up the border to whomever wants to come over", you just have to be smart enough to look at their track record.



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Originally Posted by Seran

Strangely enough, I don't recall soft on crime, financial ruin or massive untaxed payouts to illegal immigrants being on the candidate summary page. Must have been on page two. Nor do I think soft on crime or financial ruin applies to Biden nor the specific situation I posted about. Soft on immigration, absolutely. Poor use of taxpayer funds, for sure.

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So, you DID see amnesty for illegals which is soft on crime along with all the hand wringing about social justice which is just another Leftist dog whistle for "let minorities commit crimes because they are oppressed. You DID see "tax increases on the rich" which has always amounted to an across the board tax increase and always caused economic damage, destroyed small business and recession/depression. You DID see talk about reparation's. All of this WAS on the campaign but you were too stupid to understand the real meaning of it all and too ignorant of history to believe that anything else would be the outcome and too blinded by mean tweets because the media told you to be mad about it all in the name of Orange Man Bad. And yet, many on the Left and the Right pointed this out and you and millions of other stupid shills went along with it because it made you feel good as opposed to DOING good. The road to hell is paved with good intentions and you dumbasses are laying asphalt at a blistering rate with this piece of shit POTUS and his puppet masters Pelosi, Schumer and "The Crew".

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Originally Posted by Seran

So let's look it it then on a constructive manner.

Of the 11-12 million immigrants here illegally, for the most part those who are of working age do so and support their families. If we were to simply deport the lot of them, business and the housing markets would feel the repercussions. So why not a definitive course to citizen in terms of naturalization. If you're self-supporting, have not committed a crime since entering and have taken steps to learn the language, a fast track to probationary citizenship should be granted. I hear the concerns about swelling voter rolls but don't necessarily think so many will automatically lean left. But as a compromise, lets say the first 3-5 years of the probationary citizenship will not grant voting privileges. At the end of the fourth year, provided the person continues to be self-supporting and paid taxes, then full citizenship and the associated rights ought to be granted.

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How about this has been offered with a path to citizenship along with fines since they ARE criminals in the first place and you and all the Leftist shitbags in Congress have screamed your childish heads off that it's "RACIST". Fuck off.

How about we go with "foreign worker status" that doesn't include voting rights but allows the path to citizenship through naturalization, end birth right citizenship, fine them for being here in the first place and make felony and violent/sexual misdemeanor conviction immediately deportable offence, do not pass go, you are gone never to return. Then we make it also a deportable offense for any of them caught driving without a license and insurance. And NO, no fucking fast track, that shits all over the people who worked hard, paid their dues and earned the right to be a US citizen the right way.

Lastly, you are right when you said "I don't think" when you commented about the voter rolls since the polling is clear that an overwhelming majority would vote Democrat and every major poll ever done in the last 20 years on the subject is the same.

Also, in closing, you misspelled "Illegal Aliens". They are not immigrants, they are illegal aliens, criminals who broke the law by coming here illegally. Period.

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Originally Posted by ~Rocktar~

So, you DID see amnesty for illegals which is soft on crime along with all the hand wringing about social justice which is just another Leftist dog whistle for "let minorities commit crimes because they are oppressed. You DID see "tax increases on the rich" which has always amounted to an across the board tax increase and always caused economic damage, destroyed small business and recession/depression. You DID see talk about reparation's. All of this WAS on the campaign but you were too stupid to understand the real meaning of it all and too ignorant of history to believe that anything else would be the outcome and too blinded by mean tweets because the media told you to be mad about it all in the name of Orange Man Bad. And yet, many on the Left and the Right pointed this out and you and millions of other stupid shills went along with it because it made you feel good as opposed to DOING good. The road to hell is paved with good intentions and you dumbasses are laying asphalt at a blistering rate with this piece of shit POTUS and his puppet masters Pelosi, Schumer and "The Crew".

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Actually "stop illegals from entering our country, they're here to murder you, rape your daughters, and steal from you while taking jobs that you deserve" is the racist dog whistle. The fact that you actually think that granting amnesty for people who have been here as productive members of society for decades is "a racist dog whistle" is so beyond absurd it's hilarious. It also demonstrates that you are using yet another political/economic word or phrase you don't actually understand.

You also clearly don't understand the impact of taxing the rich. Some of the best economic growth we had in the 80s and 90s was during the Clinton years after we raised taxes on the wealthy. The Post World War II economic explosion was at a time when our top marginal tax rate was 90%, college was free (albeit for white guys mostly), and when we had our highest levels of union membership. So your claim that raising taxes on the wealthiest people in this country causes other taxes to go up and causes economic damage runs absolutely counter to the real economic history of our nation (and every other nation on earth by the way). Raising national taxes on the wealthy has never turned into higher taxes on others- that's like saying giant investments in funding rounds always leads to employees being paid less. It just demonstrates a deep reluctance on your part to actually look at the situation objectively. You're just parroting things people have told you.

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Originally Posted by time4fun

"stop illegals from entering our country"

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I'm happy with this. I don't care what they are here to do. Some of them do come and murder and rape, a lot don't but I don't care. If none of them came in, that'd still be less murder and rape.

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Originally Posted by time4fun

Actually "stop illegals from entering our country, they're here to murder you, rape your daughters, and steal from you while taking jobs that you deserve" is the racist dog whistle. The fact that you actually think that granting amnesty for people who have been here as productive members of society for decades is "a racist dog whistle" is so beyond absurd it's hilarious. It also demonstrates that you are using yet another political/economic word or phrase you don't actually understand.

You also clearly don't understand the impact of taxing the rich. Some of the best economic growth we had in the 80s and 90s was during the Clinton years after we raised taxes on the wealthy. The Post World War II economic explosion was at a time when our top marginal tax rate was 90%, college was free (albeit for white guys mostly), and when we had our highest levels of union membership. So your claim that raising taxes on the wealthiest people in this country causes other taxes to go up and causes economic damage runs absolutely counter to the real economic history of our nation (and every other nation on earth by the way). Raising national taxes on the wealthy has never turned into higher taxes on others- that's like saying giant investments in funding rounds always leads to employees being paid less. It just demonstrates a deep reluctance on your part to actually look at the situation objectively. You're just parroting things people have told you.

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What race is illegal immigrant? Be specific.

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Originally Posted by time4fun

You're just parroting things people have told you.

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