Pelosi officially announces impeachment inquiry

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Originally Posted by Parkbandit

What legitimate reason did she actually hold them back though?

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Well let me ask you a question, let’s imagine the positions were flipped, and we have the senate saying “we don’t give a fuck, we aren’t going to be impartial, we are going to acquit no matter what our dem president did. Half of these forums would be doing the same thing the left wings are doing right now.

Now is it a legitimate concern? I believe so...
The senate is conducting a trial, are they not? Imagine the jury at any other trial said what the senate has said?
Imagine it was your trial and someone did shit to you, and the jury said we don’t care what the defended did, he’s innocent we don’t want to hear any of your witness or listen to any of your evidence. You’d be like why the fuck as well.

But after all that, it shouldn’t even be at this point. Trump shouldn’t be impeached. It’s the hard left wings that are driving this waste of time, energy and money.

My only concern is, why is trump refusing to let WH staff testify? Because he feels the house is doing a witch hunt? Fair enough, but if he’s done nothing wrong, and he’s innocent, wouldn’t you want these people to come forward and testify this? Him refusing this, no matter the reason, to me... shows some level of guilt. Let them testify in the senate, it’s controlled by the republicans. I’m just confused why an INNOCENT man, won’t let people testify under oath.

Can you give me a legitimate reason why an innocent man won’t let his staff testify to clear his name? I mean testify in public hearings by both parties.
I mean if you accused me of a crime, no matter how crazy and stupid I think it is, and I have people that can testify that I did nothing wrong... what reason would I have to refuse to let them speak up? It’s like I just scream “i did nothing wrong this is a sham and wont let the people who might know what really happened talk to anyone!” I don’t quite understand the logic of this

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Originally Posted by Solkern

Well let me ask you a question, let’s imagine the positions were flipped, and we have the senate saying “we don’t give a fuck, we aren’t going to be impartial, we are going to acquit no matter what. Half of these forums would be doing the same thing the left wings are doing right now.

Now is it a legitimate concern? I believe so...
The senate is conducting a trial, are they not? Imagine the jury at any other trial said what the senate has said?
Imagine it was your trial and someone did shit to you, and the jury said we don’t care what the defended did, he’s innocent we don’t want to hear any of your witness or listen to any of your evidence. You’d be like why the fuck as well.

But after all that, it shouldn’t even be at this point. Trump shouldn’t be impeached. It’s the hard left wings that are driving this waste of time, energy and money.

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After the way the House ran their "inquiry" can you blame them? Everyone with an IQ over 40 knows this whole thing is nothing but a butthurt fueled waste of time.

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Originally Posted by Methais

After the way the House ran their "inquiry" can you blame them? Everyone with an IQ over 40 knows this whole thing is nothing but a butthurt fueled waste of time.

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I don’t at all, my previous post to that, mentioned that the investigation was bullshit on how it was run

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Originally Posted by Solkern

Well let me ask you a question, let’s imagine the positions were flipped, and we have the senate saying “we don’t give a fuck, we aren’t going to be impartial, we are going to acquit no matter what our dem president did. Half of these forums would be doing the same thing the left wings are doing right now.

Now is it a legitimate concern? I believe so...
The senate is conducting a trial, are they not? Imagine the jury at any other trial said what the senate has said?
Imagine it was your trial and someone did shit to you, and the jury said we don’t care what the defended did, he’s innocent we don’t want to hear any of your witness or listen to any of your evidence. You’d be like why the fuck as well.

But after all that, it shouldn’t even be at this point. Trump shouldn’t be impeached. It’s the hard left wings that are driving this waste of time, energy and money.

My only concern is, why is trump refusing to let WH staff testify? Because he feels the house is doing a witch hunt? Fair enough, but if he’s done nothing wrong, and he’s innocent, wouldn’t you want these people to come forward and testify this? Him refusing this, no matter the reason, to me... shows some level of guilt. Let them testify in the senate, it’s controlled by the republicans. I’m just confused why an INNOCENT man, won’t let people testify under oath.

Can you give me a legitimate reason why an innocent man won’t let his staff testify to clear his name? I mean testify in public hearings by both parties.
I mean if you accused me of a crime, no matter how crazy and stupid I think it is, and I have people that can testify that I did nothing wrong... what reason would I have to refuse to let them speak up? It’s like I just scream “i did nothing wrong this is a sham and wont let the people who might know what really happened talk to anyone!” I don’t quite understand the logic of this

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You literally just said the reason... "Trump shouldn't be impeached. It's the hard left wings that are driving this waste of time, energy and money"

If Trump agrees to testify.. he is giving legitimacy to this bullshit political witch hunt.

But you never answered my question: What legitimate reason is Nancy Pelosi holding onto the Articles of Impeachment? You said yourself that she literally holds 0 power on the Senate proceedings.. so she literally has nothing, absolutely nothing to barter or negotiate with. McConnell has told her this on several occasions.

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Originally Posted by Parkbandit

You literally just said the reason... "Trump shouldn't be impeached. It's the hard left wings that are driving this waste of time, energy and money"

If Trump agrees to testify.. he is giving legitimacy to this bullshit political witch hunt.

But you never answered my question: What legitimate reason is Nancy Pelosi holding onto the Articles of Impeachment? You said yourself that she literally holds 0 power on the Senate proceedings.. so she literally has nothing, absolutely nothing to barter or negotiate with. McConnell has told her this on several occasions.

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Yes, he shouldn’t have been impeached, but he has been, so that’s a moot point. What shouldn’t have happened, happened... that doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be done properly, yes I know the house already fucked it up, but that doesn’t give the senate the right to do the same imo. The senate has the chance to do the right thing, have an impartial trial and then vote... I know everyone can’t be impartial... but to just openly say at the start, we don’t care, we are going to acquit and we don’t want to hear anything... is wrong imo


I answered your question is my previous post. I believe not having an impartial trial and senators already going on record about this... to me makes this a legitimate concern. What’s the point of passing along the articles, when no witnesses are going to be called and the outcome has already been decided?
Sadly this is the same shit that happened with Clinton.
Dems didn’t give a shit and just voted with party

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Originally Posted by Solkern

Yes, he shouldn’t have been impeached, but he has been, so that’s a moot point. What shouldn’t have happened, happened... that doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be done properly, yes I know the house already fucked it up, but that doesn’t give the senate the right to do the same imo. The senate has the chance to do the right thing, have an impartial trial and then vote... I know everyone can’t be impartial... but to just openly say at the start, we don’t care, we are going to acquit and we don’t want to hear anything... is wrong imo


I answered your question is my previous post. I believe not having an impartial trial and senators already going on record about this... to me makes this a legitimate concern. What’s the point of passing along the articles, when no witnesses are going to be called and the outcome has already been decided?
Sadly this is the same shit that happened with Clinton.
Dems didn’t give a shit and just voted with party

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A legitimate concern over something you've already said was not a legitimate procedure?

We've already read the transcript of the call in question... there's literally nothing to this. This is still Democrats who cannot fathom that their candidate lost an election and have repeatedly attempted to overturn an election result.

And given the clown show they have assembled to beat Trump... it's looking more and more likely that it'll be 4 more years of Trump.

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Originally Posted by Solkern

Yes, he shouldn’t have been impeached, but he has been, so that’s a moot point. What shouldn’t have happened, happened... that doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be done properly, yes I know the house already fucked it up, but that doesn’t give the senate the right to do the same imo. The senate has the chance to do the right thing, have an impartial trial and then vote... I know everyone can’t be impartial... but to just openly say at the start, we don’t care, we are going to acquit and we don’t want to hear anything... is wrong imo


I answered your question is my previous post. I believe not having an impartial trial and senators already going on record about this... to me makes this a legitimate concern. What’s the point of passing along the articles, when no witnesses are going to be called and the outcome has already been decided?
Sadly this is the same shit that happened with Clinton.
Dems didn’t give a shit and just voted with party

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Why should anyone, even the Senate, take this seriously?

I'd like to see the Senate call all sorts of witnesses and expose all of the left's bullshit. I'm not expecting it to happen, but it's what should happen.

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Originally Posted by Methais

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Why should anyone, even the Senate, take this seriously?

I'd like to see the Senate call all sorts of witnesses and expose all of the left's bullshit. I'm not expecting it to happen, but it's what should happen.

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If that’s what happens, then that’s what happens, i would just like witnesses to be called, and an impartial trial!

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Originally Posted by Parkbandit

A legitimate concern over something you've already said was not a legitimate procedure?

We've already read the transcript of the call in question... there's literally nothing to this. This is still Democrats who cannot fathom that their candidate lost an election and have repeatedly attempted to overturn an election result.

And given the clown show they have assembled to beat Trump... it's looking more and more likely that it'll be 4 more years of Trump.

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Wait wait wait, I said the reason he was impeached I don’t agree with, the procedure I have no problem with (although I agree it was a little fucked up on how they did it, but they followed procedure and went by the book if I’m not mistaken, unless you can show me proof that they broke laws or procedures allowed to them for the process.

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Originally Posted by Solkern

Wait wait wait, I said the reason he was impeached I don’t agree with, the procedure I have no problem with (although I agree it was a little fucked up on how they did it, but they followed procedure and went by the book if I’m not mistaken, unless you can show me proof that they broke laws or procedures allowed to them for the process.

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This makes it sound like you are ok with someone being wrongfully sent to prison/executed as long as procedure was followed. And you have no problem with their clown show of a procedure? What? Clearly if we can have a President impeached over dumb things like this and like what happened with Clinton there is something wrong with the procedure. There should be something in place that they must prove the President acted in a manner that is harmful to the country, not just their hurt feelings.