Look at East Germany vs. West Germany circa pre-1990 for a difference of political philosophies and their impact on their respective country.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeril
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Look at East Germany vs. West Germany circa pre-1990 for a difference of political philosophies and their impact on their respective country.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeril
Ya those East Germans were stupid liberals.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
Stupid socialists.. but yes, I agree with you.Quote:
Originally Posted by cwolff
Alright, now we're getting somewhere. Now, are those East Germans in a socialist system today?Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
And once again you've failed to show that you have anything but feelings. These "facts" don't exist. You can't come up with a single positive alternative, just bile, which seems to be your main "feeling."Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
The rest of us also understand the difference between Communism and socialism. You're in those feelings though. I understand you can't tell the difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
The point was that blanket generalizations are silly. Germany is indeed doing well but they also were one of the reasons that Greece and Ireland (though not Spain) got onto shaky ground in the first place. The "Europeans are all socialists!" meme, just like the "welfare queen" meme that y'all like isn't quite so simple.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeril
I'm more into the "corporate welfare queen" meme myself.
Wait, what?Quote:
Originally Posted by Warriorbird
YOU were the one making the accusation. I simply asked you for a couple of examples. YOU couldn't think of anything, so you whined that even if you did, I would pick on you about your examples so that's why you didn't.
It was a simple task that I asked of you... support your claim. You couldn't.
It's time to take responsibility for your own actions... or in this case inactions.
I wouldn't exactly consider West Germany conservative either.. but there were 2 distinct political/economic philosophies at work in East/West Germany. One was capitalism.. and one was communism. One succeeded and one failed.Quote:
The rest of us also understand the difference between Communism and socialism. You're in those feelings though. I understand you can't tell the difference.
Whatever point you and Jarvan are trying to make about the past and present perils of European style government is retarded.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
This game you're playing about "I just asked a question" isn't fooling anyone either. No one here thinks you actually give a shit about having any type of healthy discussion which is why Warriorbird isn't taking your troll bait. He already told you that too.
It was a clear cut example of what economic system works and what doesn't. Same time, same country.. each half used a different system. One succeeded, one failed miserably.Quote:
Originally Posted by cwolff
It's not that complicated.
Trolling? I am responding to a point he was attempting to make... that liberals are the party of positive results and the GOP has none. I called him out for giving us a couple of examples. He couldn't.Quote:
This game you're playing about "I just asked a question" isn't fooling anyone either. No one here thinks you actually give a shit about having any type of healthy discussion which is why Warriorbird isn't taking your troll bait. He already told you that too.
No one is surprised that you are confused by this simple progression in conversation.
And what does this have to do with the discussion or specifically Jarvan's contention that Europe sucks countered by a few other people who said that Germany's doing well? From that convo. you bring up E v. W Germany circa pre 1990. Are you just reminding us all that Soviet Style government wasn't any good? If so, thank you for that, but we know already. Are you comparing Obama's administration to the former E. Germany? Are you recommending that we follow Germany's example? I support that too. Socialized medicine, strong worker rights, higher taxes and state funded higher education. It sounds like a good plan but I don't see the U.S. right getting behind it too much.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
Ya trolling. He made a point about the do-nothing GOP when he said that nothing they've proposed works and they just seem to be against everything. Instead of addressing his concerns in a mature way you challenged him to tell you what the Dems are doing. Be a man and address his point. He's not alone in thinking this way and it's going to come up in the next two election cycles. Latrin also said that whatever Obama did to get us out of the recession was a good thing. Obviously that was tongue in cheek but you completely ignored it too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
Now you're playing the victim card saying that he's not answering your questions. You've got some balls to act like a victim here. Warriorbird and Latrin both deserve some cogent response to their points. Maybe then we'll get to answering your troll posts.