So you're for Putin!!1111!Quote:
Originally Posted by waywardgs
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So you're for Putin!!1111!Quote:
Originally Posted by waywardgs
Maybe you just don't give a shit about american body bags.
I do.
Oh, I think the region should go to Russia as well. I think they should pay for it though. Honestly, it never should have been given to the Ukraine in the first place, and if the Soviet Union had never fallen, it wouldn't have mattered.
If this is how you feel like posing my statement, then by all means, you go ahead.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
I agree with you. Hell I think we all do. The problem I see is that we don't have a choice anymore. We've put ourselves out there as the World's police. If we step back the people who fill that vacuum aren't going to thank us. This is give an inch lose a mile. IMO, once you fight to be the big dog, you better stay there. If we go isolationist for a while then decide to flex our muscles later it'll be a full on war.Quote:
Originally Posted by waywardgs
Instead of a million thousandaires, we should send a thousand millionaires...Quote:
Originally Posted by waywardgs
http://wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/8045...-man-facts.jpg
Why do people think we haven't benefited from being the "world's police"?
How different would the world be today if we just told Japan they better play nice from now on and we'll leave them alone as long as they leave us alone after they bombed Pearl Harbor and we continued on our merry way with our isolationist policy?
Latrin, run some numbers. How different would the world be today? Would the US be in a better position or a worse position? Would everyday American lives be better or worse?
I don't think the thing with the Japanese was being the world police. That was us being attacked by a nation using conventional forces.
If you can stuff bill gates into one of those tin cans, I'm so fucking down with that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Latrinsorm
Ya that fight was brewing and we just needed Pearl Harbor to get it started.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gelston
Yeah but after WWII is when we became the world's police and before the war we were just minding our own business for the most part.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gelston
Send zuckerberg and these What'sApp guys. If we send bill gates he'll constantly have to reboot and this will drag on forever. I'd also vote for sending Mark Cuban. Just Mark Cuban; no suit.Quote:
Originally Posted by waywardgs
We fought proxy wars with the soviets for years after ww2- vietnam, korea.. I don't think it made us stronger.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
And we entered WWI because why...?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
I'm down with that.Quote:
Originally Posted by cwolff
Eh, not really. Banana Wars is a great example. As far as with Japan, yeah, we kinda fucked with them a bunch. Americans flew donated planes for the Chinese against them. We cut off trade with them. It put Japan into a vice grip. They were forced to either chill the fuck out or attack us. They chose the latter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
Fighting in Korea didn't make us stronger? South Korea is one of our best allies and a very good trading partner and the country itself is flourishing.Quote:
Originally Posted by waywardgs
Name ~ONE~ person that is for Putin?Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
Check the Syrian thread. Who wants to bet it was mostly Dems that showered him with love.Quote:
Originally Posted by cwolff
Maybe. SK is a strong partner, you're right. I'm just angry that korea was a forgotten war and it set the stage for the rest of the publicly ignored wars that followed vietnam. War is a serious matter, and I value the military institution. I see the recent actions as being careless with the lives of american for reasons that fall short of their worth.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
This is a joke right? I'm like 60/40 that you're joking so I figured I better ask.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarvan
They also make almost all the App games. Not to mention a shit ton of the MMO's.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
I was also able to stay drunk there for 35 days straight when I went there for a military exercise.
Yeah my bad. The Dems showered Obama with Love for failing to do what he said he would, having his secretary of state make a "joke" about a possible solution, and then Having Putin put it together.Quote:
Originally Posted by cwolff
The "repubs" just gave Putin credit for doing what Obama couldn't. Not that it matters, because Syria hasn't met any of the deadlines yet at all. It was basically a Bullshit offer anyway.
You should be a sEre instructor.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarvan
Nah. Went to one once in CAP. To much for me. Couldn't bring myself to eat the maggots.Quote:
Originally Posted by cwolff
Teddy purposefully took us away from that with the Great White Fleet but we pretty much gave it up with the Spanish American War.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
Aren't we about to pass some deadline for the use of force in the Crimea?
2am or 5 am. Yep. 42,000 troops in Crimea now with 150k on the borders. Rough estimation.
I was in Crimea(pronounced Kreme) about two weeks ago, visiting my wife's family and I recently in Kharkov, Kiev and Odessa. Everyone in Ukraine speaks Russian, except when with just family.
No one is being persecuted for language or anything else. Russians consider Ukrainians like brothers, and vice versa
About this so called pro Russian Crimea, which is also false. They have held past referendums to leave Ukraine that failed, and failed big 60-40 or some shit. 20% are Tatars that hate Russia and about 40% are Ukrainians, the rest are pro Russians. Most Ukraine's want nothing to do with Russia. Everything outside of Moscow/St Petersburg, is like third world trash in Russia, and all Russians and Ukrainians know this. The majority of Ukrainians feel like they have a better future with more EU integration.
But Back read a book and assured us that Crimea wants to be a part of Russia.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
I read a book that Pokemon are real too!Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
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Originally Posted by RojoDisco
Russia has Novorossiysk which they have been spending boat loads of money to upgrade their naval base, so they don't have to rely on Crimea so much. So this isn't Russia's "access" to the mediterranean. They have others.
Ahahahaha! Always trust in the herd!Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
http://i.imgur.com/2iMxz.jpg
Okay, not really.
Pro-Russian troops fired warning shots at around 300 Ukrainian soldiers protesting at a military airfield in the Crimea, as Secretary of State John Kerry was on his way to Kiev in an expression of support for Ukraine's sovereignty.
About a dozen Russian soldiers at the Belbek air base stood guarding the airfield and warned the Ukrainians on Tuesday, who were marching unarmed, not to approach. They fired several warning shots into the air and said they would shoot the Ukrainians if they continued to march toward them.
The shots were apparently the first fired since pro-Russian troops -- estimated by Ukrainian authorities to be 16,000 strong --tightened their grip on the Crimea Peninsula over the weekend.
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Early on Tuesday, Vladimir Putin's spokesman told Russian news agencies that the Russian president ordered troops participating in military exercises in western Russia near the Ukraine border to return to their permanent bases. The order was issued almost a week after Russia began massive exercises involving most military units in western Russia, stoking fears that the Kremlin might use the troops to seize territory in pro-Russian areas of eastern Ukraine.
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/03...heads-to-kiev/
Looks like Putin may be softening his stance a little though.
I hate to pile on someone when they've been so wrong so often in a thread but...Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
You're wrong again.
So, if you call someone a visionary and a master strategist in describing what he's done, you love him?Quote:
Originally Posted by cwolff
Sounds like they are just describing the type of person he is. I don't watch it, so if you have some source material, I'd be interested in seeing/reading it.
It sounds like English is like your 2nd language and you simply don't understand the nuances of it very well.
And just now the White House has announced a $1 billion aid package for the Ukraine.
Think Detroit needs one too. And Gary, IN. Oh right, we only help foreigners. Forgot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gelston
Last time we helped Detroit some people sure bitched about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wrathbringer
Because we helped corporations there. Humanitarian aid it wasn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by Warriorbird
Humanitarian aid? You mean foodstamps and welfare? Is that what you're saying? We should drop a billion dollars on Gary In. and Detroit in social programs?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wrathbringer
Bitching is more important than consistency.
I'm saying that if we're going to give humanitarian aid it should be here at home. I'd just like to see us do us for a while, that's all.Quote:
Originally Posted by cwolff
You'd have to vote for something other than Left or Right for that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wrathbringer
Frankly, I think Detroit is getting what it deserves.
I just think it's stupid that we give BILLIONS a year to other countries.. then bitch that we are not spending enough on Infrastructure here at home. Maybe don't give other people money before we take care of ourselves.
Because Libertarians are all about helping people.Quote:
Originally Posted by NinjasLeadTheWay
More on topic:
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mo...ad--vlad-worldQuote:
As anyone knows, Vladimir Putin would never dare invade another country if a strong manly Republican U.S. President were in office, which is why Putin didn’t dare to invade Georgia’s breakaway republics in 2008, because he so feared George W. Bush.
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Originally Posted by NinjasLeadTheWay
Not everyone identifies themselves with a political party.Quote:
Originally Posted by Warriorbird
That's irrelevant. Because those parties will do it for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeril
And Obama climbs another rung in the pantheon of greatest U.S. presidents of all time.
I assume the mainstream conservative media will be commending Obama today, right?
We guaranteed $1B in loans. We didn't lend them $1B; although the likelihood we pay on that guarantee is high.
We threatened sanctions. Putin's response? If we sanction Russia, he will sell U.S. Treasury bonds. American capital markets response? Up 2%.
Obama deserves another Nobel Peace Prize for his heroic leadership through this crisis. Can you imagine what blowhards like Mitt Romney would have gotten us into?
http://img.beaumus.com/images/albums...03_-_Wwiii.jpg
Welcome to the Ukraine.
Russia has military bases outside of the Crimea bordering the Black Sea. My understanding is that the Russian naval bases in the Crimea are actually *small than those on Russian soil*.Quote:
Originally Posted by RojoDisco
Also, the 'rest Tatar or indigenous people' ? You can thank Russian genocide policies for that. I was unsurprised when I read multiple report of Tatar 'self-defense groups' attempting to return government buildings to Ukrainian control. Tatars *hate* Russia ... a sentiment that is shared to an extent in the Baltics and Poland.
And then there was this...
MOSCOW -- Russia said it had successfully test-fired an Intercontinental Ballistic Missile (ICBM) on Tuesday, with tensions high over its seizure of control in the Crimea and its threat to send more forces to its neighbor Ukraine.
A Pentagon official told CBS News that the U.S. detected the launch of the Russian ICBM near the border of Russia and Kazakhstan. Notifications were made ahead of time in accordance with normal procedures. The official said the launch is viewed as non-threatening and is not connected to what is going on in Crimea.
It is unclear exactly what kind of ICBM was launched and how long ago the U.S. was notified about the test.
The state-run news agency RIA cited Defense Ministry spokesman Igor Yegorov as saying the Strategic Rocket Forces launched an RS-12M Topol missile from the southerly Astrakhan region near the Caspian Sea and the dummy warhead hit its target at a proving ground in Kazakhstan.
Continued at...
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/russia-t...-over-ukraine/
Damnit I'm a nerd. I looked at the bottom part of that picture and instantly said to myself "If you took out 2 big circles and added 4 small ones that would be the back end of an imperial destroyer.
I personally believe in being the world's police, therefore there's a 100% chance this universe is the best of all possible outcomes. 110%! Statistics are lies, 40% of all people know that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
Putin's softening on the peninsula? Shouldn't have pissed off America, we make all kinds of drugs for that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gelston
Wealth makes peace, peace makes wealth; the Marshall Plan worked. Detroit is in much, much, much, much, much, much, much better shape than Ukraine. Global warming has prevented the ice floes needed for those maple syrup loving Canadians to skate down enough battalions for a credible invasion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarvan
They're launching Broadway stars at us? They DARE?Quote:
Originally Posted by NinjasLeadTheWay
Ha ha ha ha ha. That's great.Quote:
Originally Posted by waywardgs
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/a...on/495616.html
Free Speech is alive and well in glorious mother Russia.
There is so free speech in Russia.Quote:
Originally Posted by Atlanteax
You are free to say nice things about Russia all you want.
Admittedly I've not been active in this folder for years. Maybe I'm just unfamiliar with the cast of characters these days. But I've got to know, is Ninja a troll or is he just an idiot?
Ninja is Back's Alt. muwahahhaha
(I can feel my name being cast into the fiery hells.)
Definitely a troll.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keller
Good. We've had our fair share of idiots over the years.Quote:
Originally Posted by NinjasLeadTheWay
Carry on.
Vladimir Putin nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Considering Obama won though I guess we can't really laugh too much :/
Holy shit! I just finished reading that article, I just read the first paragraph when I posted:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
Good ol' HuffPost. I'm not a fan of Limbaugh or anything either but come on, are we really putting him up there with the likes of Stalin and Hitler?Quote:
In order to secure a spot on the list, essentially all that's required is for a group or individual who falls under the broad criteria set by the Nobel Committee to formally submit your name and good deeds. The committee then selects from these nominations, but takes no responsibility for the pool of candidates they choose from. This process has resulted in some truly terrible people being proposed over the years, including but not limited to: Joseph Stalin (twice), Adolf Hitler (as a protest), and Rush Limbaugh.
My God HuffPost. Grab hold of reality quick before you're lost forever.
Had to fix a small inaccuracy in that article.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
Jesus Christ. Nothing like writing to the base. IN OTHER NEWS: Possible the three worst people in the World are Joseph Stalin, Adolf Hitler and Rush Limbaugh. You be the judge.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
It did make me laugh though.
Putin will never win. His campaign ad can't beat Hope and Change.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Noo0lzJILaM
Damn foreigners! Speak English!Quote:
Originally Posted by Taernath
She goes to the fortune teller to learn who her true love will be.
And it was Putin who just happened to be running for president? I call shennanigans.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taernath
Has Rush Limbaugh ever denied killing millions of people?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
Have you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Latrinsorm
Every time I vote, which let me tell you, is a lot.
Has Obama?Quote:
Originally Posted by Latrinsorm
He denies everything.Quote:
Originally Posted by Atlanteax
See! I can play too!
Hillary Clinton Compares Putin's Ukraine Strategy To Adolf Hitler's In Nazi Germany: Report
I hate to agree with Hilary but she's got a point.
I wonder how Back is going to come to terms with this.
It is refreshing to see a politician appropriately refer to a world leader's policies as being similar to Hitler's.
Why, because she's a WOMAN???Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
No. Because she's white.Quote:
Originally Posted by Latrinsorm
Oh, fair enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
Did you guys know Vladimir Putin is only 5'5"?
More like Vladimir PuTiny!
Attachment 6253Quote:
Originally Posted by Keller
Attachment 6254
When Putin met Reagan
Hint: It's not the kid.
They voted to join Russia, so guess what Obama.
https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/i...nvMmQ_bFdwHBB_
No, they voted to hold a referendum.
Like that's gonna stop Putin.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gelston
http://static.fjcdn.com/comments/Lit...5a363beb32.jpg
This is what happens without energy independence.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7RD5ONjv8M
http://youtu.be/A7RD5ONjv8M
The funniest thing about a referendum about if Crimea should join Russia or not.... is that it doesn't mater.
They can't vote to join a different country just like CA can't.
That being said.. Putin will just do whatever he wants, because he knows no one will try to stop him. No one in Europe really cares.. because Ukraine isn't Europe to them. And we won't do anything that could start a new cold war.
I WOULD think it would be ironic if we just suddenly decided to "sell" as in 1$ per, high tech weaponry to Ukraine for them to potentially fight a civil war. I mean.. what could Russia do about it? They love giving weapons to Syria.
Yes they can, they are doing it right now. Do you think they give a shit about what the Ukrainian Constitution says if they are breaking away?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarvan
Well, the Crimea is the most heavily pro-Russian province in the Ukraine.
So in a sense, Putin will do himself a disservice if Russia annexes Crimea, as it would only encourage the formation of pro-Western governments in Ukraine.
With Crimea in Ukraine, the Western 'faction' in Ukraine had 40-60% control at any given time in the past decade, now it will be more like 55-75%.
So if Putin wants to ensure a 'neutral' Ukraine, he will stop short of annexation and just continue the 'occupation' (ie that Russian strip of land in Moldavia and the break-away Georgian provinces). Nevermind that Crimea is 'poor' and leaving it with Ukraine means that Ukraine is paying the upkeep in subsidies/etc to the population, which would help keep it under Russian financial domination.
This is a cogent explanation, but I'm afraid it cannot possibly be correct because at no point do you reference Obama's failures.Quote:
Originally Posted by Atlanteax
Obama supported the British in the 1770s-1780s.Quote:
Originally Posted by Latrinsorm
Obama's failures are so failurirific that they don't even need mentioning yet the failures are burned into our minds anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Latrinsorm
Crimea is Russia's. No question.Quote:
Originally Posted by Atlanteax
It's sort of like how you don't have to cite sources for something that's common knowledge.Quote:
Originally Posted by Latrinsorm
"The Earth is round."
"Water is wet."
"Obama is the antichrist and wants to ruin 'Merica."
Well, legally, they can't do it, realistically.. they can do anything they want. Technically, it won't change anything as the world sees it. EXCEPT that places like Russia and China will just realize that they can Annex anyone they want and have a "referendum" claiming it's ok.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gelston
I wouldn't say Antichrist.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taernath
How is the Ukraine situation different from other expansions of China and Russia? The way I see it, they don't need some neat new trick to try to grow their borders. Whether it's called a referendum or something else is almost immaterial. They're both gung ho on growth.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarvan
Tibet, the Baltics... it's not news to Russia and China that they can annex other countries and undertake legitimization measures afterwards.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarvan
Well, I guess it *is* inevitable now...
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Ukraine: Many Tatars Are Leaving Crimea, Border Service Says
The State Border Service of Ukraine said March 11 that more and more people are leaving Crimea, especially Crimean Tatars, APA reported.
Nice brinkmanship move by Putin...Quote:
The Kremlin mobilized troops and tanks for new drills close to Ukraine on Thursday, despite an uncharacteristically sharp warning from Germany that Russia itself would suffer "massively" if it didn't back down.
The Russian Defense Ministry's announcement came as diplomats prepared for 11th-hour talks in London on Friday—two days before the breakaway Crimea region is to vote on seceding from Ukraine and joining Russia.
The death toll of a German-Russian war with modern weaponry is unimaginable.
Thanks a lot, Obama.
Angie doesn't give a fuck! She's Germany's Eisenfrau.
Wait a minute. Nice move Putin? Really?Quote:
Originally Posted by Atlanteax
OMG THIS MEANS ATLANTEAX LOVES PUTIN!Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
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Originally Posted by Atlanteax
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Originally Posted by Back
Yes, this is obviously the correct conclusion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
Do you know what brinkmanship means? He said nice "brinkmanship" move, which it was.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
Come on, Back. Recognizing that Putin is a smart dick does not mean one is in love with Putin.
If you're getting tired of people saying what great moves Putin is making perhaps you should instead counter with all of the great moves Obama is making about the situation in Ukraine.
We'll wait here.
I thought you quit this thread Back.
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Originally Posted by Gelston
Well technically he just said he's done arguing with morons so I guess he thinks Atlanteax is a genius so he must agree with Atlanteax that Putin made a nice move.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
I take back my earlier comment, Back. You had me going for a minute there.
I find it odd whenever a Liberal shows any disapproval of Vladimir Putin, who was at one time a member of the Communist Part of the Soviet Union. Is it because he has a higher approval rating in Russia than Obama has here? Or because Forbe's named him the most powerful man in the world. Or because he's been successful where Obama has not? Or because He was essentially a spy and you guys all got stuck with a feckless community organizer?
http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/23...bcb4f0ffe5.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/cWD0Rn3.jpg
Putin sure as fuck doesn't give a shit what people think haha.
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Originally Posted by Johnny Five
Shit's getting stupid - again.
OMG, someone added text to a photo of Putin and put it on the internet! Please tell me you're not really dumb enough to believe that stuff?Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny Five
If you'd like to explain your approval of Putin in your own words I'm listening. This isn't the first time I've heard someone from the United States seemingly speak approvingly of Putin on this issue and I'd really like to understand where that comes from. Your words, not anyone else on these boards, or in the media, your words.Quote:
Originally Posted by Atlanteax
Back you do realize the entire board thinks you're a fucking moron right now, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brinkmanship
Now after you learn what that word means, tell me how you read approval in his sentence.
It wasn't too long ago that everyone was laughing at an impotent balding middle aged pale white man trying desperately to look macho while riding on a horse without his shirt on. I think what is happening now is that a bunch of impotent balding middle aged pale white men realize how much power Putin has, legitimate or not, and are engaging in some strange identifying hero worship.Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny Five
You are retarded.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
Hero worship was when you were speaking about Chavez.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
This isn't even close to that level.
Please stop. I'm feeling badly for you at this point.
Tgo01, you do realize Parkbandit thinks you're retarded right now, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
:(
I'm prolly going to regret jumping into this hornets nest of a thread, but I think it raises some really interesting questions.
I think it's pretty interesting that Putin is becoming a strong voice in global conservativism. I could be dead wrong, but I think he is saying out lout what a lot of xenophobes in this country have been thinking for a long time...and in a weird way it's kind of refreshing...even from the perspective of someone who couldn't disagree more. I'm sure there are politicians in this country who feel the same way, but cannot express that opinion as candidly because it would be political suicide.
Looking at this stuff really helps put into a more complex context different conceptions of 'freedom' and how that word can mean such different things to different people.
This country is so awesome and complex and the PC is actually helping me learn more about it....weird right?
It reminds me of G. Gordon Liddy's autobiography Will when he talks about how, when was a kid, he had such a hard on for Hitler and the 3rd Reich.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skip
Inorite.Quote:
Originally Posted by cwolff
I never really understood how so much of this country was kinda into hitler circa 1935, But I feel like I kinda get it now.
That's because at the time he was spouting stuff like National pride (and what is wrong with that?) strong military defense, a strong economy, etc etc. He wasn't standing there saying "I want to kill all the jews and take over the world". The Germans had just lost a war, and he told them what they needed to hear. That they were somebody, they were good, they were worthy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skip
Kinda the opposite we hear about Americans from even other American's nowadays... hell.. Look at Michelle Obama's comment in 2008. 44 years... and that was the first time she was proud of her country. Kinda telling.
I believe in everything Putin does. I love him.
Mein Kampf was published in 1925. There was no cnn.com back then (thanks a lot Obama), but it definitely took less than ten years for a book to cross the Atlantic. If you can read Mein Kampf and think "nothing wrong with this!", I don't know what to tell you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarvan
You listen to Kina Grannis and think "nothing wrong with this!"Quote:
Originally Posted by Latrinsorm
Well yes, but we're already aware that I'm a perfect judge. And I can't fault people in 1935 for not listening to Kina, she wasn't even born yet. Weird contribution, Gelly. Weird.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gelston
Gelston has a point.
I'm about to administer a point to your mom, kiddo.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnticorRifling
(the point is my penis)
(of infinitesimal length)
(kiddo)
Obama listened to his Pastor bad mouth America for what, 20+ years, and he thought "Nothing wrong with this!"... at least till it was time to run for president.Quote:
Originally Posted by Latrinsorm
Why do you have to constantly spout this drivel. We're going to get kickstarter campaign to pay for your de-programming. You'll thank us later.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarvan
He should have voted for Obama and got a fat paycheck and a phone like the rest of us did.
Fuck this shit. I'm done arguing with morons.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
I'm still waiting on my welfare Escalade. Does it come with the blinged out rims or do I need to use SNAP to pay for them?Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
You should totally leave him a bitter message on his wall and tearfully announce how you're blocking him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
So are you saying he didn't sit in the church for 20+ years? and then he didn't say he was unaware of what the guy was saying?Quote:
Originally Posted by cwolff
Even you are not that stupid. You just hate facts that don't support your cause.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_WBDpA9NxuX...ainst-Wall.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by Jarvan
I'm saying that Rev. Wright said some thought provoking shit and a lot of it was spot on. Good for him and I hope it sparked discussion within his community. The controversy was manufactured for strictly partisan reasons and you're a dipshit if you let your party get in your head like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarvan
LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by cwolff
Slightly rational people might wonder if the fellow's church wasn't actually suggesting that America was damned the entire time. If he had been he might not have been so successful at maintaining a congregation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarvan
"The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes a three-strike law, and then wants us to sing God Bless America? No, no, no! Not God bless America. God damn America! It's in the Bible, for killing innocent people. God damn America for treating its citizens as less than human!"Quote:
Originally Posted by cwolff
"And they will not only attack you if you try to point out what's going on in white America, the U.S. of KKK A."
"They live below the sea level, they live below the level of "Clarence Colon" and "Con-damn-nesia."
"We bombed Hiroshima, we bombed Nagasaki, and we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon and we never batted an eye. We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and black South Africans, and now we are indignant?! Because the stuff we have done overseas is not brought back into our front yard? Americans chickens are coming home to roost."
Where is all of the Democratic outrage for people saying what a great man Wright is?
I'm not aware of your experience with church, but do you think that was all he said for his entire preaching career?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
Man oh man. Republicans say Putin is an asshole but he's a tough asshole and suddenly all Republicans are in love with Putin according to Democrats.
At the same time Democrats say Wright said some smart and thought provoking shit.
What the fuck is going on here?
Can someone explain this to me? Someone besides Back that is.
Who gives a shit?Quote:
Originally Posted by Warriorbird
Seriously, that's the best you got?
Get the fuck outta here. You're not even trying anymore.
"Sure Wright said some very racist, anti American and inflammatory stuff but it's not like that's ALL he said!"
That preacher is laying down some truth. Too bad more Christians don't.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
Outrage! Outrage! Outrage!Quote:
Originally Posted by cwolff
Oh wait. Outrage is only saved for people who disagree with Obama or his pastor. MY BAD!
Your bias is showing. Tuck it in and then try to write something that deserves a response.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
whats funny is that anti-Americanism is fundamentally American!
whether you're hating on Obama, or Bush or the Vietnam war or the welfare system.
The dichotomy here is that Putin wishes to eliminate the voices of critical minorities, while in this country we have embraced them as part of the fabric of our nation. Hell, I'm not even saying one is better than the other, their just different philosophies that have played out though history, and will continue to do so in the future.
The best I've got? Really? This in response to comparing Jeremiah Wright to Hitler?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
I'd suggest you get out of here if you're serious.
Irony.Quote:
Originally Posted by cwolff
My bias is showing?Quote:
Originally Posted by cwolff
What on God's green Earth are you talking about?Quote:
Originally Posted by Warriorbird
"God Damn America" is spot on? Why do you live here?Quote:
Originally Posted by cwolff
let see... "Them Jews aren't going to let him talk to me," Wright told Virginia newspaper The Daily Press when asked if he still spoke with Obama. "I told my baby daughter, that he'll talk to me in five years when he's a lame duck, or in eight years when he's out of office."
Maybe you think that is spot on... here is a question... do you see ANY racism in his statement?
If you answer no.. well that is to be expected. If you answer Yes, welcome to the first time you have ever had your eyes open.
Then again... I forgot.. it's "thought provoking" or "Spot on" when a black person or a Liberal is racist.
Wright got brought up as a poorly considered counterpoint to Latrin referencing Mein Kampf.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/8102284032/h72DECE4E/
You may worship Putin, but he would be 'eewwwww'
He is referring to me saying about Wright and his racist speeches Obama heard for 20 years.. but then said "I never heard that". Same thing as someone reading Mein Kampf and not realizing Hitler was insane.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
Man I miss these back peddling days of yours, WB :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Warriorbird
Person A says something on page 35, I respond to something person B said on page 37 that has nothing to do with what person A said, on page 38 WB says "This is in response to what person A said on page 35??!"
Classic.
I'm not a Christian so I'm not a hypocrite by living here and being patriotic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarvan
Yup, that's racist. Is he talking about how Obama won't hang with him while Obama's President of the USA?Quote:
let see... "Them Jews aren't going to let him talk to me," Wright told Virginia newspaper The Daily Press when asked if he still spoke with Obama. "I told my baby daughter, that he'll talk to me in five years when he's a lame duck, or in eight years when he's out of office."
Maybe you think that is spot on... here is a question... do you see ANY racism in his statement?
If you answer no.. well that is to be expected. If you answer Yes, welcome to the first time you have ever had your eyes open.
Hmmm...you lost me here. This is more of your Us Vs. Them bullshit?Quote:
Then again... I forgot.. it's "thought provoking" or "Spot on" when a black person or a Liberal is racist.
Ya you're bias is showing. Anytime you say stupid shit like "OH YOU JUST DON'T LIKE IT BECAUSE IT'S ANTI OBAMA" you're losing your argument. For one thing you're making an assumption. You don't even really know how I feel politically. I'm labelled as a liberal by you all, but I don't think that's the case. Being as objective as possible I'd say that I'm center left. What happens here is that the right wingers are SO far right they think moderates are commie liberals.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
No, I'm really not.Quote:
Originally Posted by cwolff
It's in this very thread. All Republicans have been labeled as Putin lovers because they think he's tougher than Obama.
BAM! Republicans are automatically the bad guy because they aren't saying what a great leader (LOL!) Obama is.
Then you come along and actually say the racist bullshit Wright spouted from his pulpit is spot on! SPOT ON! But wait, it makes sense because he used to be Obama's preacher, right? I mean what other possible reason could you have for actually agreeing with the shit that man said?
Dude. Just no. Dude. Stop. Dude. Please?Quote:
Originally Posted by cwolff
Nothing wrong with being a dirty liberal if those are your political leanings and that's the way your values happen to fall. But come on. Don't give me this that you're center. I haven't seen you say one negative thing about Obama.
You either agree with everything the man does and say or you're afraid of being labeled a racist if you disagree with the man. Choose one. It has to be one or the other.
Being objective as possible?You are seriously fucking disillusion if you believe that.Quote:
Originally Posted by cwolff
Shhh!Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
Always Being Right is an axiom cognitive distortion. People with this faulty thinking process will go to great lengths to prove they are right at all times. They will become irritated and even irate if someone confronts them with facts that contradict them. Being wrong at any level is not acceptable to them and they will demonstrate high anxiety from the inner turmoil if challenged.
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Originally Posted by Parkbandit
Facts? That's pretty rich coming from you. Ninja never met a conspiracy theory he didn't like and PB just calls everyone a libtard. It's no accident that both of you compare Soviet style communism Obama and think you've made an obvious point.Quote:
Originally Posted by NinjasLeadTheWay
It's certainly something when me correcting your mistakes becomes backpedaling in your mind. Given how we're all apparently "idiots" to you, backpedaling involves retreating or withdrawing from a position or attitude. There is none here, just me correcting you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
And you never met a liberal who you didn't deep throat until the bitter end. So I guess we're at an impasse. I love to speculate on the possibilities that you refer to as conspiracy theories. If you were more intelligent you might be able to handle my level of sarcasm. But alas... you're not. You still take everything from this administration as face value and you will be damned if you let facts or truths or any opposite thinking get in your way because you have to win. Attachment 6267Quote:
Originally Posted by cwolff
Ugh. What are you rocking, 5 posts per page?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
Oh so now you're saying that all that bullshit you post is actually some high level performance art commenting sarcastically on our culture?Quote:
Originally Posted by NinjasLeadTheWay
Sounds good. Lets run with that.
I read it all as he's a big Alex Jones fan. Much like PB and the Drudge Report.Quote:
Originally Posted by cwolff
I actually hate Alex Jones have personally be able to provide evidence that more than a handful of his stories are false. So that's out. Sorry.Quote:
Originally Posted by Warriorbird
Fair enough. It's just what it comes across as. It's kind of like how infuriating some of us found Keith Olbermann I suppose.Quote:
Originally Posted by NinjasLeadTheWay
With the exception of the Hitler Escaped to Argentina Documents that I recently posted and my speculation on the Malaysian flight Disappearance, because of the freescale semiconductor/Raytheon employees on board. What else am I spewing that's a conspiracy theory?Quote:
Originally Posted by Warriorbird
I didn't call anyone an idiot. Sheesh stop making this stuff up as you go along :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Warriorbird
I seem to remember some alien stuff? Obama birth certificate doctor death?Quote:
Originally Posted by NinjasLeadTheWay
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Originally Posted by Tgo01
Gosh you're right. You said moron. Incisive semantic point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
Heck I thought you were just playing along earlier with your reply to that comment, I guess it really was a major whoosh :/Quote:
Originally Posted by Warriorbird
Yes, I posted the article that the Doctor who signed the Prez's birth certificate went down in a plane crash and she was the only one who died. Isn't it fun to speculate?Quote:
Originally Posted by Warriorbird
At times. I've spent time believing in October Surprise. I just get really leery of anything near 9-11 "Truth"ism.Quote:
Originally Posted by NinjasLeadTheWay
Your comparison was less ridiculous than his. I wonder what a Russian dissident would think of it though?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
You're right. I posted an alien autopsy video from Huffington Post. It was my attempt to show what an accurate and reliable source of information the HP was.Quote:
Originally Posted by Warriorbird
Ahh. I didn't even bother reading it too deeply because I find HP ridiculous.Quote:
Originally Posted by NinjasLeadTheWay
Well then we can at least agree on something.Quote:
Originally Posted by Warriorbird
Source on me calling everyone a libtard?Quote:
Originally Posted by cwolff
And you are a liberal.. and most certainly a retard, but I have never, ever called you a libtard.
Intelligence isn't your strong suit.. I get it.. but WB's schtick is making shit up and using unsubstantiated hyperbole. You might want to check to see if he minds you using the only thing he has on this forum.
Thankfully nobody's ever taken away your insults, images, and news articles posted by Drudge or we'd be in real trouble.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
I haven't read a PB post that wasn't just a string of lame insults in a looooooong time.
In b4 PB calls me a retard.
http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthrea...34#post1641334Quote:
Originally Posted by waywardgs
If you left click on someone's name, and select "View Forum Posts" you would see a "looooooong" time is probably more than 2 days.
Fucking retard
Actually, I am the one that calls people libtards. It just seems to fit when they are liberal, and acting retarded.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
The blasphemous Bosphorus?
http://youtu.be/vsQrKZcYtqgQuote:
Originally Posted by RojoDisco
We don't see eye to eye on politics but we are ear to ear on this great tune at least.Quote:
Originally Posted by ~Rocktar~
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/16/wo...says.html?_r=0
So lets see... their goal is the protection of Russian speaking (NOT Russian citizens) people in Crimea... so they now invade a natural Gas plant OUTSIDE Crimea.
Makes TOTAL sense.
I am sure they mean no harm and want only what's best for the children.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarvan
LOL, first reports are in with exit polls in Crimea...
93% want to Join Russia... 7% what independence... apparently NO ONE wants to stay with Ukraine.
Yeah, this is totally believable.
I still like the "Maverick"
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"Russia is a gas station masquerading as a country,” McCain said. “It’s kleptocracy, it’s corruption. It’s a nation that’s really only dependent upon oil and gas for their economy. And so economic sanctions are important. Get some military assistance to Ukrainians, at least so they can defend themselves. Resume the missile defense system in Poland and the Czech Republic. Look at Moldova and Georgia, both of whom are occupied by Russian troops as we speak, a path toward membership in NATO.”
If only our president had that kind of leadership skills.
Speaking of our president what is he doing about the situation in the Ukraine? I haven't heard anything about it in a while. I'm assuming he's doing golf diplomacy; he figures if he can take one stroke off his golf game Putin will give in.
Flapping your gums at the microphone isn't a freedom the President has. I'm glad the Senator is able to. What's with this golf stuff you keep harping on? Does it really bother you that he plays a couple rounds of golf a week?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01