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It's disengenuous to oppose something with lines that your party would have never supported. You're blaming Obama for not passing stuff that would have been even more difficult to pass. If you don't get that, there's no helping you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
This is stupid. So my party generally opposes gay marriage so I can't be in favor of gay marriage? This is quite possibly the stupidest thing I have ever heard in my life. Someone quote that Adam Sandler movie!Quote:
Originally Posted by Warriorbird
This makes zero sense. Not a single Republican voted for Obamacare. Not a single one. No, not even that one. How would it have been more difficult to pass Obamacare because of "my party" when "my party" didn't even vote for the current version of Obamacare?Quote:
Originally Posted by Warriorbird
Before we go any further you really have to explain this line of reasoning.
When you whine about how the other party should be better about gay marriage while you're a member of a party that opposes it, you're not funny, you're an asshole.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
While your party screwed the collective pooch about actually doing anything (and they haven't done anything but oppose things for years) Obama made alliances with all those evil companies you hate (LOL) to actually achieve Obamacare. These are the people he made the bill like it was for, because he had this theory that Republicans might like a Republican bill but they would've hated anything he did even if they wrote it (witness the Rubio immigration bill), so he had to make new partnerships.
Again you're making zero sense. Please start making at least 1% sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Warriorbird
That's a lot of words but it didn't answer my question.Quote:
Originally Posted by Warriorbird
Let's break it down. Your party opposes a thing. You don't. You then whine about how the party that you're not a member of should be "better about supporting a thing."Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
You don't get the disconnect?
You have *repeatedly demonstrated* that you absolutely do *not* understand 'Republican policy positions'.Quote:
Originally Posted by Warriorbird
By your example, 'Democrat policy position' would be to for the U.S. government to be the sole provider of food, healthcare, housing, etc ... and bankrupt the U.S. in the process.
The same reasoning applies to car insurance, and it is just as incorrect there. You cannot foresee a car accident by ten years, or a tumor, or schizophrenia.Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny Five
This is a coherent theory, but one that does not turn out to match empirical data. Consider the report detailed in this article, for instance.Quote:
You have McDonald worker X. Worker X only makes 1200$ a month. We give X food stamps, cash assistance, rental assistance, free healthcare. X feels no need to work towards a better future when they are able to get assistance for taking the easy road. X meets Y and has Z. X and Y teach Z that you get free stuff for doing little to no work. Z grows up knowing this and does what X and Y did.
And if I could ask you this: what was your first instinct when presented with this?
1. Look up the data you used to come to this belief in the first place.
2. Look up data that supports your belief.
3. Dismiss the data presented, or dismiss the concept of data in general.
I suspect it was (3), and I think you do yourself a disservice by taking that route. Obviously you can't take (1) because you didn't use any data in the first place, but you could at least try door (2).It worked insofar as the human race did not become extinct, but it didn't work well enough insofar as common decency was concerned, which is why people invented welfare programs in the first place.Quote:
For the people that can't work, that's what family is for. Worked that way for thousands of years but now it can't?
There used to be a meme that black people had tails. People believing something does not make it true.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarvan
Gatoraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaade.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
My point has been from the very beginning that Obamacare is going to make things worse. So yes when the best "the other party" can muster is to make things worse then you damn right better believe I'm going to bitch about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Warriorbird
I'm just waiting for Back to pop in now and say I should have voted for Romney.
That's certainly the sort of shit you claim regularly. The Republican Party opposes "entitlements." It believes in the Horatio Alger "bootstraps" myth and things like "trickle down economics" and the philosophies of Ayn Rand. This isn't invention, this is your political philosophy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Atlanteax
My point is it's disengenuous to complain about the solution when you stand with Team No Solutions Ever.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
And your point is stupid. You have demonstrated it quite perfectly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Warriorbird