Things that made you frown today (Political Version)

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Originally Posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage

Except, unless I missed this in the news, 9/11 was an act of terrorism, and this appears to be an accidental fire.

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I'm not comparing the two apples to apples. I'm talking about emotional impact of the event.

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Originally Posted by Stumplicker

I probably should, yes, but the comment stands. This is on par with 9/11 for a lot of people. I haven't heard or seen anything about anyone dying so far, thank god, but this is irreplaceable history being erased.

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It's a tragedy for sure, but on par with 9/11? No indications of terrorism or arson yet and no one was even killed or injured from what I've read so far.

History aside, was anything but the building damaged? If the building caught fire but no historical texts or paintings were lost... it can be rebuilt.

Won't someone think of the flying buttresses???

Chill. Western civilization survived the burning of the Library of Alexandria, we'll survive this.

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Originally Posted by Astray

History aside, was anything but the building damaged? If the building caught fire but no historical texts or paintings were lost... it can be rebuilt.

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I'm sure there must have been some sort of historical artifacts that burned up, but I haven't read anything specific yet.

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Originally Posted by Astray

History aside, was anything but the building damaged? If the building caught fire but no historical texts or paintings were lost... it can be rebuilt.

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That's the problem. The building is a large part of the artwork. Stained glass and medieval gothic architecture. Many of the old cathedrals like that that are proofed against fire by removing anything out of them that could be a fire hazard. The paintings at St. Peters aren't even paintings, because paint is flammable. They were done painstakingly as mosaics, but from ten feet away, you can't tell the difference.

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Originally Posted by Tgo01

It's a tragedy for sure, but on par with 9/11? No indications of terrorism or arson yet and no one was even killed or injured from what I've read so far.

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The French appear to be quite dramatic people. The live streams are full of people comparing the two. I just ..can't comprehend how an old building burning is anywhere near the same.

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Originally Posted by Tgo01

I'm sure there must have been some sort of historical artifacts that burned up, but I haven't read anything specific yet.

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Originally Posted by Stumplicker

That's the problem. The building is a large part of the artwork. Stained glass and medieval gothic architecture. Many of the old cathedrals like that that are proofed against fire by removing anything out of them that could be a fire hazard. The paintings at St. Peters aren't even paintings, because paint is flammable. They were done painstakingly as mosaics, but from ten feet away, you can't tell the difference.

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I still feel like it's not really something that's not replaceable on a materialistic scale. You can recreate pretty much fucking anything and as long as it appears to be the same... nothing was really lost. Y'know, unlike that picture of Jesus that got fucking gutted by that one cunt.

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Originally Posted by Alfster

The French appear to be quite dramatic people. The live streams are full of people comparing the two. I just ..can't comprehend how an old building burning is anywhere near the same.

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Yeah I can understand people being emotional, especially if they have any religious connection to the building. But assuming this wasn't an act of terrorism or arson, to compare it to 9/11? No.

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Originally Posted by Alfster

The French appear to be quite dramatic people. The live streams are full of people comparing the two. I just ..can't comprehend how an old building burning is anywhere near the same.

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There are a lot of people who value history and its preservation greatly. 1000 years from now, people may only be able to read about and wish they were alive to see Notre Dame the same way we wish it about the Library at Alexandria today. Not to mention, it's an 800 year old bastion of Catholicism that survived a time when the foundations of that were being shaken into a thousand splinter religions. On an emotional level, that is tragic to me very close to on par with how I felt on 9/11.