Climate Change Report

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Originally Posted by Thondalar

Doing some digging into their subsidies structure brought up some interesting things. Prince Joakim received about $220,000 US in farm subsidies in a year, the Minister for Food, Agriculture and Fisheries, Mariann Fischer Boel, received a total of US$ 480,000; Minister for Education, Ulla Tornes, got US$ 655,000, and the Minister for Finance, Thor Petersen, got US$ 175,000. Nothing funny going on there at all. The industry itself receives billions in production subsidies from the EU, but apparently they're struggling with the EU's "green" initiatives and are now asking for more money to be able to pay for the changes the EU requires in their farming techniques. Most of their agriculture production is for export, and they're struggling to compete with international prices.

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Notably, lots of people pay much less 55.9% who earn top level income in the US, even in New Jersey. They don't really have that.

Their subsidies and ministries are notoriously corrupt (on both of their sides) though. It has made my girlfriend really bitter about politics.

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Originally Posted by Thondalar

History bears this out time and time again...how many were homeless after the French Revolution? After the Bolsheviks? Taking from the rich and giving to the poor, as a government model, never has and never will work.

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Those examples only work if you think the economy has a linear response to socialism. That is to say: if more socialism is bad, then some socialism must be bad to some lesser degree. It turns out that the economy has a higher order response: none is bad, some is good, more is bad again. This makes sense if you think about it. A living being has almost no linear responses; the story of Goldilocks is not "this porridge is too cold, this porridge is somewhat warmer, this scalding porridge is just right! this bed is too small, this medium bed is better, the biggest bed is best of all!" One beer is good, but as our college students are happy to demonstrate ad nauseum this does not indicate that many beers is even better.

It is pretty easy to put a quantitative figure on how socialist any given era of United States history is: just look at the top income tax bracket. It turns out that a higher top income tax bracket is correlated with higher average increase in GDP and tax receipts, which makes sense if you believe in the Laffer curve.

Good demonstration of how bigger government is not necessarily better, Latrin.

Certainly! About as big as our volume is now is just right, although certain dimensions could stand to be trimmed or expanded.

We can all relax.. the ants have this under control.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/h...w/39547238.cms

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Originally Posted by Parkbandit

We can all relax.. the ants have this under control.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/h...w/39547238.cms

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Whew! Time to burn some tires in my backyard.

Because you're ready to believe that ants can effect the climate, but humans? Nahh.

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Originally Posted by Warriorbird

Because you're ready to believe that ants can effect the climate, but humans? Nahh.

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True. We have been hearing for a long time now that no animal on Earth affects their environment except humans.

Also it's a good thing we are warming up the planet because if we hadn't been then these ants would have put us in an ice age.

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Originally Posted by Tgo01

True. We have been hearing for a long time now that no animal on Earth affects their environment except humans.

Also it's a good thing we are warming up the planet because if we hadn't been then these ants would have put us in an ice age.

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That's funny that we've heard that. It sounds an awful lot like somebody conveniently made it up because it's nonsense, much like most of your trolling in directions you don't actually agree with.

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Originally Posted by Warriorbird

That's funny that we've heard that. It sounds an awful lot like somebody conveniently made it up because it's nonsense, much like most of your trolling in directions you don't actually agree with.

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I plugged in "do animals affect climate change" in Google and the first page of results are talking about how climate change are going to affect animals.

I plugged in "do humans affect climate change" and the first page results are all talking about how humans are causing the world to end.