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SS is a Ponzi scheme and one theory about the Dems supporting illegals is that they prop it up with fake IDs to get work and can't get benefits. Hell, if I had to live on 3K a year when I retire, as of right now, there are a few places in the world I would go live at and 3K a year is pretty nice. Also some places in the US where you could do decent with that.
And guess what, others, including myself have comparable accomplishments and do not look down on SSA because of the safety net it offers those who aren't so fortunate or whom didn't make such important choices.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage
Maybe I just missed it in all of your ranting and raving but I don't think anyone here "looked down on SSA" or those who are on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
Perhaps it's time to stop Backlashing around. Next thing you know you're gonna call everyone a racist.
I’ve noticed, all the Democrats here have red rep...
Well they are communists.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
Only the really retarded ones.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
Off the top of my heads, these dems all have green... and a couple of them have a severe case of TDS
Alfster
Taernath
Ardwen
Archgeek
What specifically makes them more qualified?Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
in b4 "wElL fOr OnE tHeY'rE nOt RacIsTs!!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA holy fuck how is it possible for one's brain to contain this much stupidity and still function well enough to stay alive?Quote:
As for beating him, it does not matter who the candidate is, after what we saw in 2018, expect that blue tsunami to wash the republican red tide away.
What specifically makes you think there's going to be a blue wave after the enormous amount of nothing democrats have done for 2 years other than being butthurt and crying that they lost an election? You think impeachment is really going to work out in their favor? :lol:
Defamation involves lies. 99% of the damage Biden has taken, Biden did to himself just by being Biden.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
You and him both have some things in common though, so I can understand why you feel so strongly about this.
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No one's butthurt. Most republicans are more like:Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
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To be fair, there are a lot of really, really stupid voters in the Democrat party who are just like Backlash that honestly believe the reason their lives are shitty is because some banker or some Wall Street guy took their rightful share and will vote for any candidate that promises them revenge.Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
Calling it a Ponzi scheme, a scam, deriding the benefits, those are indeed deriding that program.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
That's the intent of the program but it's not how it has been used over the past 70 years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
Considering you have "comparable accomplishments", I take it you will be turning down your SSI check at 67?
Will your spouse choose to take your SSI or hers when you're 6 ft. under?
For the selfish ones that decide not to have children, why do they deserve SSI? They didn't have kids that fund their take.
It's literally a Ponzi scheme.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
Literally.
I don't look down on it. I laugh when people say it's their retirement.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
I'm sorry (not really) that you're jealous of people who succeeded in life.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
Of course I wouldn't give up a benefit I've paid into my entire life, no matter my solvency when I retire. What a stupid question.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neveragain
Social Security is an entitlement and there is no litmus test that someone breed children to pay into the system; our country is progressive, not communist.
That's your right and I'm inclined to agree that that foolishness is cringe worthy. Doesn't change the importance of the program in ending senior poverty.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage
And this is why a generation is going to get fucked by the SSI Ponzi scheme.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
It's like you don't understand the SSI program, how it became a program and why it became a program.
You want the program, you just don't want to be the one to pay for it. Typical socialist.
Accidental honesty is the most entertaining honesty.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neveragain
Here’s my problem with some republicans
Ninety-nine US senators were sworn in Thursday and, with their right hands raised, pledged to do "impartial justice" in the impeachment trial of Donald John Trump. (The 100th, Oklahoma's James Inhofe, was back home dealing with a family medical issue and will be sworn in next week.)
How can you take this oath, when you already admitted, that you will not be impartial?
It doesn’t matter if you think this impeachment is a sham or whatever..
Good. It's about time republicans start growing a spine and give the left a taste of their own medicine instead of rolling over and taking it in the ass with a smile like they've done for decades while democrats continue to trash everything. No, this shouldn't be the norm, but in this specific case, the left needs a taste.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
Fighting fire with fire, etc.
It won't matter anyway. Regardless of how they conduct the trial, anything less than Trump being removed from office is going to trigger the biggest meltdowns since the 2016 election, followed by the biggest meltdowns of all time after he gets reelected in November.
My question to you is did all 99 of these Senators themselves say they weren't going to be impartial? Or where is that coming from?
Democrats aren’t exactly impartial either. They are saying he did these illegal things and the Senate trial isn’t even underway yet.
I'm loving all this parnas stuff. It's hilarious. Trump says I don't know him, he releases pictures. Trump says he's never talked to him, he releases videos of them talking.
There are like 5 Democrats in the Senate running for president and another 2 who were running but dropped out and when they dropped out they pledged to do everything in their power to ensure a Democrat defeats Trump.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
All 7 of those people should recuse themselves because they literally can’t be impartial because of their conflict of interests.
You talking about at campaign events or what? Because so far all I have seen are pictures of Trump and Parnas at campaign events and rallies. That doesn’t exactly prove they knew each other.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alfster
Not sure where. It's absolutely hilarious. Everytime Trump mentions that he doesn't know him he's releasing another picture. Pretty sure the entire reason pelosi held the articles of impeachment was to wait for the courts to release his data.
He's far from trustworthy. Who knows what he has, but this shit is funny to watch
Yup, they even put it in writing. Impeachment documents.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gelston
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Originally Posted by Methais
I saw it on CNN a video of them swearing this oath. While I agree the dems were dumb in pushing for impeachment non stop like it was their mission in life, but that’s not the same as going on record saying “I have no plan to be impartial for this impeachment” especially once impeachment inquiry started.
After making these comments and putting your hand up to swear being impartial is wrong.
That’s all I’m implying
Yes it shouldn’t be the norm, but how childish and partisans our politicians are, it’s going to become the norm
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Originally Posted by Tgo01
Yup, agree and not once have I disputed this at all. Republicans who also went on the record stating they won’t be impartial, should also recuse themselves as well
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Originally Posted by Gelston
Yup 100% agree. We lost the fucking election, just swallow your fucking pride or whatever, and focus on making our country better, don’t waste our money on this mission of vendetta, I don’t support trump, but he’s my president, so in respect the office he holds, and respect him because of this.
I thought trump was going to be god fucking awful, and personally I don’t think he’s a good president. But he’s done quite a few things I support and I’m happy about, and we aren’t in WW3, so kudos to him!
If you know something is a hoax and you plan to call it out for being a hoax, why lie about it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
I’m curious what specifically he’s done or not done to make you think he’s not a good president. Especially when you’ve already self proclaimed to basically have no idea what’s happening over here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
Why does the news in Russia say about it all?
Obviously the news in Russia is super positive about him. Everyone knows he's Putin's puppet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
Some of it is about what’s he’s done in office(policy etc), some of it is not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
Pretty much that everyday he’s engulfed in scandal, he salutes the North Korean military(I’m half South Korean), diverts funds from key sectors to build a wall, that is in my opinion utterly useless. The claims he has made, such as if I’m president, I would never do this etc. (Golfing for example) (quite a lot of Russian media really laughs at him about this “president of golfing, I mean America is busy at work on the courses again”) and wasting my tax dollars on this, especially after he touted he’d have no time for golfing.
His tax cuts hit me quite hard. His roll back of LGBTQ in the military. His inability to work with Democrats(granted this is both their fault) but I put more the blame on him, as he has touted non stop that he’s the master of the deal, and can make deals no one else can. His rollbacks of everything to help improve our environment I.e deregulating the coal industry, rolling back the clean water rule etc. his stripping of the ACA with nothing to replace it with, and failure to get a republican controlled congress to get any major legislations passed (other than the tax cuts)
The Republican Party so i thought was all about the fiscal policy of reducing our national debt, it’s ballooned even worse than when Obama was in office(I could be wrong on this, please correct me if I am) (I also know having a debt isn’t as dire as everyone thinks it is(working in a bank I see the major positives of America(for America) being in debt)
and because he sounds like he has no idea how anything works, really makes wonder if he has any clue what he’s doing. Ie. the visa lottery, he thought they placed names in a ball and just randomly picked someone.
There’s also quite a few things he has done, that I approve of. But based on what I know, I don’t believe these are his ideas or his doing.
Feel free to correct any inaccuracies I’ve made.
This is just my personal view(and I don’t follow it very closely as I probably should be)
Our first Russian sponsored, Donald trump the puppet parade, is to be celebrated next weekend!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashlander
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Originally Posted by Methais
It’s not that I know absolutely nothing, I just don’t know much about what he’s done in detail, just done a little research on the a few things that I feel strongly about. Environment, taxes, LGBTQ etc
I don’t read much US news as I would like, most of my news comes from Russia, China, Hong Kong and a few other SEA/Eastern European countries
That's a lot to unpack.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
But basically what you said is "I believe all the negative news about him, and all the good news I do not attribute to him."
You have many inaccuracies, but it's not worth getting into it. They can all be googled. The national debt is not worse than Obama, but it's on track to be. Your taxes going up, well I'd assume you are more well off than most the nation, because his tax act did exactly what it said it would, lower taxes on low/mid income families. Mine went up also.
The rest sound like personality things you don't like. Saluting a foreign nation flag? Golfing? Can't cross the aisle?
When you spend years complaining about the president golfing too much, then boast you'll be too busy working to golf.
Then you get elected and spend even more time golfing. That's not a personality problem. It's a credibility thing.
Add in thousands of lies, and yah. That's a job performance issue
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Originally Posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage
Ahh didn’t mean to come off that way, probably poorly worded myself. I meant it towards policies he’s inacted.
I don’t believe all the negative stuff said about him, far from it. If I did I would be on the trump hate train. Like I said there are also quite a few things that he has done that I approve of, methais just asked what I disliked about him :)
My taxes didn’t get lowered, they sky rocketed even after I get a portion of my salary exempt from taxes due to living abroad.
I also mentioned that I could be wrong on a few things as I haven’t gone into much detail about it
And yup, I mentioned it at the beginning that it’s both personal and policy.
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Originally Posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage
And also, quite a lot of articles I read say quite good things about Trump.
I don’t really follow opinion based articles, I don’t need people to think for me, or explain To me news, with news.
So I take the negative and positive shit said about trump and don’t even bother with it
For example I used to read yahoo news(laugh at me I deserve it) but I stopped when they started to relate anything bad that happened and connect it to trump. I just read headline that some former republican is going to jail, and the article started off with “the first person to endorse trump goes to jail”
I just don’t even read it, I don’t give a fuck that he’s connected to trump and what he did has nothing to do with trump, so why link them together?
Don't let the blind Trump loyalists intimidate you. There is such a thing as someone being bad at something and other people noticing, calling it out, and making sure that person is not allowed to be bad at it again. Thats common sense. Thats reality. Thats how things should work.
It is immaturity that drives the die hard loyalists to call any criticism leveled at the president being solely based on an irrational hatred for the person in that position who is doing badly at that job. They then resort to personal attacks on anyone who levels any criticism as a way to distract from the actual truth.
Trump has been an awful president who inherited a decent economy. He can thank Obama for giving him a booming economy and his only excuse for claiming any sort of achievement while in office.
If that's the biggest issue you have, he must be doing a damn good job.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alfster
This just in: Politicians lie.Quote:
Add in thousands of lies, and yah. That's a job performance issue
Thanks for the heads up.
lol...Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
I won't even dive into the "Trump did this and I hate it.. and this happened during the past 3 years but he didn't do it on purpose" silliness... but you said the Trump tax cut hit you hard. Be specific? Because the Trump tax cut was a positive thing for me.
1. You’re retarded.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
2. You’re retarded.
3. https://lybio.net/wp-content/uploads...Re-Elected.jpg
4. You’re retarded.
Dude.. please stop making so fucking easy to make fun of you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
Just have a modicum of self respect. Granted, there's not much there, but pretend.
I'm not disagreeing with much of what you said. I really don't like Trump as president myself. But he's 10x better than a socialist/communist party running against him. I pick my battles. Democrats have picked my battle for me by going so far left, so far socialist, so far communist, so far racist, so far sexist, that my only option is to vote party line Republican.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
Far from it. I was simply saying those are related to his job and not a personal issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
He's seeing records as the biggest liar to hold office, hah. At least you know what he says is bullshit
One time someone posted a graph to Reddit that showed all of the times Trump has golfed during his presidency with the goal of showing just how lazy he was. Turns out almost every single time Trump has golfed was either on a weekend and a week during Labor Day and a week during Thanksgiving.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alfster
Even people who hated Trump were like “seeing this graph makes his golfing not seem bad at all.”
Because how dare a president relax on weekends or two weeks during the year!
Of course the data was bullshit anyways but the “experts” count Trump golfing anytime he visits one of his resorts or any other place with a golf course.
According to whom? Let me guess, Politifact?Quote:
Originally Posted by Alfster
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Dude, I'm a moderate, and I agree that Trump is probably the biggest liar in political office, in history.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
Are we counting his obvious exaggerations as lies?Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage
Yes, he lies all the time. Call it what you want, but it's not true.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
Okay, I just wanted to make sure we are counting things like "I know the best people" or "it was a perfect phone call" as lies, then yeah he does lie a lot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage
Not counting those. Pretty much any time he says something like "people are saying" it's a tell that whatever he's going to say next is a lie.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
That's almost always the same thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Archigeek
"People are saying I'm the best president ever" or "People are saying this is the best economy in their lifetime."
I guess those are lies, but it's really kind of nitpicking.
I think of a lie more like "Benghazi was the result of a YouTube video." Something that is actually important, has a real impact on people, and is verifiably false.
Trump boasting that he's worth 10 billion when it's probably closer to 4 billion just seems like nitpicking because you can't find anything else to complain about him.
Not saying Trump doesn't lie about important stuff either, but I just want to know if the supposed "records" he's breaking as being the biggest liar in the history of politicians is counting things like him bragging about his wealth, which at the end of the day I throw in the "Who gives a flying fuck" bin.
Now you're just making shit up. Trump uses "people are saying" when he wants to promote a conspiracy theory without having to own what he's saying. When he's boasting like in your examples, he's more likely to own it, not blame his lie on someone else who doesn't exist.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
Talk about making shit up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Archigeek
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Originally Posted by Parkbandit
Sure before my I was getting taxed at 32%, my tax jumped to 35%, also before my US tax would be applied after my Russian tax was taken, that’s not the case anymore. I also own a business, the repatriation tax, really hit me hard.
Granted the jump from $6000 to 12,000 that I don’t need to claim did help, but not a lot.
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Originally Posted by Tgo01
I don’t really call it nitpicking... a lie is a lie, no matter how big, or how stupid it is. Can’t cherry pick what lies count as lies and don’t.
Like I said I would just classify those dumb lies as "who really gives a flying fuck."Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
It's not like he's lying about something important, like oh I don't know, promising if you like your doctor you could keep your doctor as he tries to take away your healthcare. Or, just spitballing here, literally saying the world is going to end in 12 years because of climate change then say only an idiot would take them literally after their supporters took them seriously and young children got scared shit less because they thought they were going to die soon.
But if Democrats need something to cling to such as "Trump has the record for most lies ever in the entire universe!" because he likes to exaggerate his wealth or reputation or something then fine, have at it, Democrats.
I work in tax and literally do not know anyone who has a 35% tax rate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
Well, now you do!Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage
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Originally Posted by Tgo01
Yup, agree and fully understand ya, but it’s still a lie, no matter how you put it into context, or label it.
For me regarding his lies, I’m just tired of them, that’s it.
I can't speak of taxes.. especially repatriation taxation.. but all I know as a small business owner, I have more money in my pocket now directly because of the Trump tax cuts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
Also, I've never heard of someone paying 35% in real taxes.. so you may want to find yourself a better tax accountant.
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Originally Posted by Parkbandit
Sorry I didn’t break it down, I pay roughly 20% tax and because I live abroad the Repatriation Tax adds 15.5% to my taxes.
Plus I also need to back pay it as well
If you look at the comments on most of his fb posts, there are always people in there saying he’s the best president ever. Just like comments under Obama’s posts when he was president.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
I’m sure some are bots but a lot of them are actual people too, so “people are saying I’m the best president ever” isn’t exactly a false statement.
We’re also living in a society where things like articles from The Onion are being fact checked, so there’s also that.
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Originally Posted by Methais
Didn’t some world leader in another country try to use the onion as a legitimate news source?
I remember reading about it, and couldn’t stop laughing
Pretty sure Democrats have done it at least once too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
https://www.thedailybeast.com/fooled...rrassing-fails
Found it! And quite a few others lol
Exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage
I knew in 2016 that it was either Trump or Hillary.. and there is no way I would ever pull the lever for that crooked ass bitch. I also knew what a complete meltdown the left would have if Trump was elected.. so that was frosting on the cake.
What I didn't know is how fucking butthurt they would be and continue to be though. This has been the best election result of my lifetime and it'll only get better when he's re-elected over some socialist who promises anyone who votes for him/her some free stuff.
He may not be my choice for President.. but he's OUR President. Get on board the MAGA Express bitches.
I really wonder if the repatriation tax couldn't be made more beneficial to the US Economy by allowing a 100% exemption for investments in US based infrastructure or non-governing employees. The assumption being business growth and construction creates jobs and exempting salaries of lay employees adds monies spent on domestic goods and services.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
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Originally Posted by Parkbandit
Its not surprising to me that you would be in favor of a fascist authoritarian regieme as long as you were on the side of the dictator.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
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Originally Posted by Back
You're such a moron.
You are seriously the dumbest person alive. There are two ways to fix that, but only one would actually work in your case.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
https://nypost.com/2020/01/18/how-fi...s-connections/
How five members of Joe Bidens family got rich through his connections.
Man, sure looks criminal to me. We need a 3 year long investigation.
Backlash is just doing his part to get everyone that's Pro-Life to rethink their stance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
When Biden is elected President this year, perhaps Republican's can begin an impeachment investigation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage
I'm certainly in favor of post-birth abortion now, up to 70 years old even.Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCranium
Quoted for retardedness.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
Trump isn't the third president in American history to be impeached for helping his family be successful. Nor for appointing his family to political positions within the government. Trump has been impeached for bribing a foreign power with congressionally approved tax payer funded aid to combat a hostile nation for their and our security so that they would open a sham investigation into the last surviving son of his biggest political opponent in the next election.
LITERALLY NOTHING you wrote is correct. You don't even know why he was impeached.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
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Originally Posted by Back
True.Quote:
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He also broke the law by withholding the aid. So there is that too.
Only you would continue to give money to a crackhead that tells you they are going to use that money for rent.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
It's not easy, man. The high road never is.Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCranium
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Originally Posted by Back
1. Biden has the best chance for a democrap victory.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
2. Biden has no chance vs Trump and our record high stock market, low taxes, booming economy and record low unemployment.
3. You are a whiney butthurt libtard famous for your massive retardation.
And he's a pedo. Which is why they're such big fans of Biden:Quote:
Originally Posted by Wrathbringer
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A part of me wants Biden to become president, simply so we can rummage through the last 12 years of PC Democrats posting about the evils of rich old white men.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
I'm also trying to figure out what PR genius decided to use this visually unappealing picture for Bidens campaign adds.
https://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset..._400_noupscale
It screams "smoke filled room".
Trump broke his own record yesterday for the most Tweets in one day by a President. Almost all of the Tweets were about impeachment.
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WASHINGTON — President Donald Trump set a presidential record for activity on his favorite social media platform Wednesday, tweeting and retweeting at length about the Senate impeachment trial, the Democrats who want to replace him and much, much more.
By 4:25 p.m. ET, Trump had barreled through his previous record of 123 Twitter postings in a day that he set a little over a month ago, according to Factba.se, a service that compiles and analyzes data on Trump’s presidency.
More...
Can you create a word cloud of his tweets for us so we can better understand?Quote:
Originally Posted by ClydeR
THIS IS AMAZING ESPECIALLY SINCE TRUMP IS ONLY THE 2ND PRESIDENT EVER TO USE A TWITTER ACCOUNT WHILE IN OFFICE OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG IF YOU NEED THE REAL SCOOP ON ANYTHING AT ALL LOOK NO FURTHER THAN CLYDERETARD!!!!!!!1Quote:
Originally Posted by ClydeR
Here you go buddy, you earned it!!!
https://i.imgur.com/jMRkkWK.png
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Originally Posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage
Can I? Of course.
Will I? Nope.
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Originally Posted by ClydeR
I don't care who you are. More than 5 tweets a day is too many.
Fixed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage
The panic is real. After his campaign being sued for unjust enrichment and Schiff's marathon debrief about his alleged crimes, it's understandable the President is acting like a cornered rat.Quote:
Originally Posted by ClydeR
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Originally Posted by Seran
LOL. I heard the same thing leading up to the 2016 election. Then again at the Russian collusion hoax. Then again for SCOTUS nominations. Now again for the "impeachment" "hearing".Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
Boy who cried wolf syndrome is real.
Be unbiased for a second.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
Did you really think Schiff's performance was good? I found it nauseatingly boring and obviously wishful conclusions.
He always looks like he just sharted too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DVRqtfnVQAAyysk.jpg
https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/wp-cont...chiff-eyes.jpg
https://dcalert.com/wp-content/uploa...12/schiff.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/Y4vzUzy.jpg
What panic? I’ve just heard people call it boring. In the end, there will be a vote and Trump will still be your President.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
Yeah I dunno how you can call there being panic.
Oh yeah so much panic, especially the part where Schiff admitted this whole impeachment sham is because Democrats no longer like Democracy and don’t want to allow the peasants/voters to decide elections anymore and he wants congress to do it from now on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
I did, I feel he presented his case dispassionately and didn't come across as a rabid, screaming partisan. He stated the fax, cited historical precedent and made the case.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage
It's time like this I swear you and Back were separated at birth.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
If you don't allow witnesses then you are engaging in a cover up!
If you don't remove him from office then the results of the 2020 election won't be valid if he wins! But they'll be totally valid if he loses.
Oh yeah, no partisan antics there!
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Originally Posted by Seran
At least you admit he didn't state the facts.
Carfax or not I’ll never buy a vehicle from Adam Schart.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
And some people think shit smells good. Nadler and him were horrible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
I meant to say this the other day, but it's clear the talking points the dems have say to use the word "cheat" instead of QPQ or bribery now.
The argument they are making is he cheated to become president in 2016 (LULZ) and they are in fact predicting the future, that when he wins again, he'll have cheated.
They are also predicting Russia will invade our homeland (LULZ).
These guys are fucking adults, right? I mean, they have some education, correct? It's like a child is telling them what to say.
Nadler called Trump a dictator in the Senate today. Is he too being "dispassionate" and not coming across as a "rabid, screaming partisan"?Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
I have heard better, more cogent and more coherent arguments from 8 year old kids arguing for extra fries at McDonalds than Schiff and Nadler have put forward.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
To be fair, they are playing to the strength of their base.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage
Trumps lawyers in two hours decimated 24 hours of lies. Shitt looked like the fool he is, the whole time. Should be good on Monday.
I predict vote by Friday - Maybe the week following, and acquittal when the vote happens. No new witnesses.
If the defense had shit atop the podium, you'd have given the same praise.Quote:
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No, dictator is pretty accurate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
True story, because the dems have fucking nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
If Trump were a dictator there wouldn't be an impeachment hearing at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
Do you retards just not know what the words you use mean?
^^ This is correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
No, no they do not.Quote:
Do you retards just not know what the words you use mean?
If they knew what words meant any more we wouldn't have Trump as president.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
Name one dictator that’s been impeached.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
Donald J. TrumpQuote:
Originally Posted by Methais
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Originally Posted by TrumpTweets
Next time you’re asked to speak, don’t forget to log back onto your Seran account. Otherwise sit down and fuck off.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrumpTweets
Also, trying to not be BacKKKlash levels of retard wouldn’t hurt.
But since you’re jizz drinking retard self is already here, name one dictator who has been impeached.
Other than “omgtrump” of course. Because you’re a huge mongoloid.
Then tell us more about how it’s possible to even impeach a dictator in a dictatorship.
You may resume your hobby as a gay porn fluffer after.
How’s them gas prices doing? Guess my post aged extremely well.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrumpTweets
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WASHINGTON — President Trump told his national security adviser in August that he wanted to continue freezing $391 million in security assistance to Ukraine until officials there helped with investigations into Democrats including the Bidens, according to an unpublished manuscript by the former adviser, John R. Bolton.
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I'm glad that leaked out. Now that we know what Bolton would say, there's not need to have him as a witness in the trial.
Are you certain it was a leak? His book goes on sale this morning.Quote:
Originally Posted by ClydeR
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Originally Posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage
Definitely a leak. You can pre-order it from Amazon, but it is not scheduled to be released until March. That schedule could be interrupted if there are security clearance concerns, which are likely if the book makes Trump look bad. The title on the Amazon landing page is "The Room Where It Happened: A White House Memoir." You cannot preview it on Amazon.
That Hamilton song is overused in political parodies. It would have been a clever title three years ago. Here's a parody from 2017 about the Trump tower meeting..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5h56N_uwS7c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5h56N_uwS7c
So you believe his publicist or he wouldn't leak a juicy tidbit like that, the day it goes on sale? Surely you aren't that naive?
Oh wait. I fell into the trap of actually discussing something seriously with ClydeR.
Nevermind. Go start a thread about it somewhere.
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Originally Posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage
If it was a "leak," to use your word, by Bolton or his publicist, then it was a leak.
Of course they released something like that to boost sales. Call it whatever you want. Smart move
You’re stupid.Quote:
Originally Posted by ClydeR
You're a sheeple and you don't even realize you're being played.Quote:
Originally Posted by ClydeR
You should buy the book today.
It’s looking like the Democrats are gonna get their wish to drag this shit out forever by getting the witnesses they want because of this stupid Bolton “leak.” And as soon as Bolton doesn’t give them the testimony they want the Democrats will then demand another witness, then another and another.
Have these fucking dumb Republicans learned nothing from Kavanaugh and the past 3 years? Shit the past 3 decades? Why do they insist on “playing fair” against a party that doesn’t give a single shit about fairness.
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Originally Posted by Tgo01
And what happens if Bolton does give the dems what they want?
Nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
Democrats will still want to call more witnesses because this isn’t about justice at all, it’s a political hit job aimed at hurting Trump and Senate Republicans during an election year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
Democrats know they ain’t gonna get the numbers to remove Trump based on these bullshit charges, they just want to smear Trump and Senate Republicans by either accusing them of covering up Trump’s “crimes” or accusing them of being cowards for not voting to remove Trump.
And the thing is NO Republican will be safe from their vileness. Even if a Republican votes to give Democrats their witnesses and votes to remove Trump the Democrats will still accuse them of being traitors for not “having the courage” to convince their Republican colleagues to vote to remove.
And why not? The Democrats keep getting away with this shit and the Republicans keep falling for it over and over again.
Just look at what those fuckers did to Kavanaugh. Look at what they did to Roy Moore, oh it was somehow kept a secret he was a supposed pedophile all through the primaries but weeks out from the general election they trot out all of these women to accuse him of being a pedophile?
One woman didn’t even accuse him of being a pedophile but said she met him when she was 11 or 12 and they started dating when she was 18 but that was enough for the media to brand him a pedophile in that case.
Shit I remember a few years ago a Republican said some Democrats in Congress were communists and Democrats threw a fit and he was forced to apologize and now Democrats openly brag about being communists. Trump has really shown just how evil the Democratic Party is and I’m kind of pissed I ever fell for their shit.
Clinton was impeached for far more frivolous charges, with barely 30% public support for impeachment. That's a political hit job.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
Trump has violated the law, his oath of office and has collaborated with our enemies for personal political and financial gain. That several ambassadors, government officials and now Bolton have or are willing to testify about their direct knowledge of these illegal acts makes what the House of Representatives done an affirmation of the United States Constitution and the continuity of government. More than half of the nation supports impeachment and removal.
Your blind support and denials, your refusal to acknowledge evidence of Trump's lies and misdeeds are the real problem. Put country over party like a real man.
Pretty stirring commentary today concerning the fabric of common law with respect to presidential impeachment proceedings. Definitely worth a review. Doubt that it will be properly summarized.
You think perjury to a grand jury is frivolous? Wow. Put country over party like a real man.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
Only when it's a democrat doing it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage
Trump has lied in several depositions, through his attorney's and to the public directly. Trump has perjured himself shamelessly, only he's not cooperating with any Grand Jury. Needless to say, you'll see a perjury article shortly, as witness testimony provided compelling evidence.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage
Count 2 of Clinton's impeachment, obstruction of justice is effectively mirrored in Trump's obstruction article of impeachment. Just because you don't agree, doesn't change the mind of the rest of us.
So you think perjury to a grand jury is frivolous if you are a democrat. Gotcha. Put country over party like a real man.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
You're stupid as fuck.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
Also, please show me the depositions where he perjured himself since he's been president. You seem to have a handle on it, so I'll just wait for you to post a few.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
Until then, your TDS is showing.
Easy enough, Trump's deposition in the Mueller investigation in which he denied having conversations with Roger Stone. Rick Gates easily exposed that lie while covering his own ass.
You'll also note that unlike Clinton, Trump has provided no testimony under oath regarding his Ukranian involvement, yet dozens of statements he's made about his unique idea about truth, have been directly contradicted by the sworn testimony of his staff.
This just in, the President is not immune to investigation. Hence our impeachment for Obstruction of Congress.. Republicans and you conservatives who pretend not to be Republican's have given the President carte blanche when it comes to accountability. That's not what the Constitution entails, something no Republican in office since Reagan has honored.
So you still haven't shown me any depositions where Trump perjured himself.
You are just words on a screen man, you say things like "Put country over party like a real man." but you yourself don't follow that philosophy. Only when it suites you. Why should I even entertain your bullshit? Get back in your partisan lane and kowtow to the liberal media.
And tell us again how perjury in a grand jury is frivolous?
Deny deny, attack, obfuscate, deny. This is why you don't get to take off your water wings in the big kids pool.
There was credible evidence that Clinton lied under oath, hence the charge of perjury.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
There was also credible evidence that Clinton pressured witnesses to lie while under oath in order to match up with the false testimony he had given under oath, hence the charge of obstruction of justice.
Meanwhile Democrats are charging Trump with abuse of power for doing the exact same thing every president has done since we started handing out aid to other countries, and charging him with "obstruction of Congress" because Trump said go to the courts if you want me to participate in your witch hunt and Democrats said "but...but...but that would take too long! It might push this past the 2020 elections and we want to remove you before that!!!!" so they charged him with "obstruction of congress" over that.
Fuck off with your dumb shit.
No Grand Jury has been summoned for him to appear before. Do you even know what's going on with this impeachment sham and the impeachment of Clinton? Or you just faking it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
Ho. Le. Shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
You really don't know what's going on do you?
You know Clinton's perjury charge had nothing to do with his impeachment right? This is where you finally Google it and come back and say something dumb to pretend you knew all along.
You're a sad fuck.
"DUHHHH! I know Clinton was impeached for lying before a grand jury and DUHHHH! I know Trump hasn't testified before a Grand Jury so DUHHHH! Clinton at least did thats!!"
Sorry, I couldn't hear you over your racist posts. Keep trying though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
Media: OMG! The House managers are all diverse! Women, POC, old white men, such diversity! Meanwhile Trump's defense team is all white men!!! No diversity!
Non-moronic people: Uh, there is a woman on Trump's defense team.
Media: Yeah but she probably won't even get to talk!!!!!
When it's the woman's turn to talk the same media then doesn't broadcast that part of the trial because she was being mean to the Bidens!
How does anyone still put up with this shit? Just how bad is your TDS? We already know how bad Seran's is.
Why do you hate Mexicans?Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
Maybe you should reach Article I and Article II of H. Res 611, as they are exactly why those two charges of Impeachment were draw against Clinton. I'm curious if you're lying or just ignorant. Either way you're pretty sad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
That's pretty creepy dude, you must have a lot of experience stalking people. Is that why you've been left so many times?Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage
Even with figuring out your bad grammar and spelling errors I still have no idea what your point is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
How is quoting your posts on this forum 10 years ago "creepy" and "stalking"? Fuck off with your stupidity.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
You were stupid then, you are stupid now.
Stop posting and people will forget how utterly fucking retarded you were back then, are now and will be in the future.
This is correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
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Senate Judiciary Chairman Lindsey Graham said Monday he will seek to obtain a copy of the unpublished manuscript from former national security adviser John Bolton, a move that could bring new evidence into President Donald Trump’s impeachment trial.
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You know what would be funny? If they get a copy of Bolton's manuscript and make it part of the evidence that anybody can read for free on the Senate's website. Then nobody would buy Bolton's book when it is published.
Not to mention it's grasping at straws because I've burnt his whole world down. He has no idea of my personal life, because if he did, he'd know how laughable his statement was.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
In before Seran goes on a pk style scrubbing spree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ta7O0e0p-Eo
Damn. Trump's defense team just bent the entire Democratic party over and spanked them hard in just 3 minutes. Honestly if you're still in favor of this impeachment after watching this short 3 minute video then you just might be a partisan hack or have the worst case of TDS imaginable.
Nadler sure was a fat fuck wasn’t he?
And he was such a lazy slob that he had to have multiple surgeries to lose weight because he literally refused to even ride the subway because going up one flight of stairs was too much for him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
That video just shows me one thing: We need term limits.
20+ years as a public "servant"?
Fuck you.
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Originally Posted by ClydeR
I completely nailed it again!
Trump has classified the information in the book as top secret. It can't be published and can't be discussed in public in the Senate.Quote:
Washington (CNN)The White House has issued a formal threat to former national security adviser John Bolton to keep him from publishing his book, "The Room Where It Happened: A White House Memoir," sources familiar with the matter tell CNN.
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The only thing that's creepy is that you're trying to keep track of an internet rando's relationship status.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
You don't find that weird at all?
Absolutely no surprises here. I'd be curious to see how much of the information was previously deemed classified and how much was retroactively deemed classified to avoid disclosures during impeachment.Quote:
Originally Posted by ClydeR
What racist opinions do you have to share with us today?Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
There's an interesting equivocation by a Trump attorney, arguing the President can't be held accountable so long as his opinion is that his actions are in the best interest of the country. Where do you draw the line? If the President feels deeding Montana to his children is in the best interest of the United States, should we all just look the other way Mr Dershowitz?Quote:
Dershowitz said: “Every public official that I know believes that his election is in the public interest. And mostly you’re right — your election is in the public interest. And if a president did something that he believes will help him get elected, in the public interest, that cannot be the kind of quid pro quo that results in impeachment.”
Yes. That's exactly what he said.
Would you prefer a President not do what he feels is in the best interest of the country?Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
Another interesting response from a Trump attorney on the question of whether John Bolton should testify. His response goes down in the history books as the biggest waste of oxygen ever.
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Jay Sekulow responded, ""So again, to move that into a change in proceeding so to speak, I think it is not correct. The evidence that has already been presented, an accusation that if you get into witnesses, and I'll do this very briefly, if we get down the road on the witness issues, let's be clear, it should not be and I cannot dictate to this body, but it should certainly not be though that the House managers get John Bolton and the President's lawyers get no witness. We would expect if they are getting witnesses, we will get witnesses, and then those witnesses would then, and all of that, just to be clear, changes the nature and scope of the proceedings and they did not ask for it before,"
When are you going to tell us why you hate Mexicans though?Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
Schumer invited Lev Parnas to be his personal guest at the impeachment trial. You know Parnas, that guy who has been charged with several felonies and is facing some serious prison time and is now trying to pin all of the blame on Trump in some sort of desperate move to get a plea deal? Yeah, that guy.
Well police officers had to escort Parnas out of the Senate building during the trial because people with ankle monitors aren't allowed in the Senate gallery.
What the fuck is wrong with Democrats?
If Hitler were brought back to life Democrats would celebrate him if he wrote a book about how much he hated Trump.
The scuttlebutt is the Republicans now have the votes to block witnesses. Some of the Republicans people thought might side with the Democrats, like Gardner from Colorado, are apparently some of the loudest saying to not call anymore witnesses because he thinks it will just lead to more Democratic attacks.
Ya think?!
Republicans thinking of siding with Democrats because they think it will help their reelection efforts are crazy because it won't convince any Democrats to vote for you if they were already planning on voting against you, but it sure as shit might cause some Republicans to vote against you or just not vote at all.
I'd have done the same. Epic trolling is epic trolling.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
Fake news. This was already retracted as false, Ted Cruz updated his Twitter post clarifying that Parnas showed up to pick up tickets issued by Schumer. There was no police involvement, he wasn't escorted out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
Lying Ted already issued the best non apology ever and the President deleted his retweet of the false information.
And he was told he wouldn't be allowed in the senate trial anyways because he's a human piece of shit that Democrats like you love the suck the cock of because he now says bad things about Trump.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
Not sure this is the "fake news!" hill you wanna die on but okay.
"FAKE NEWS!!!!!111 He wasn't removed from the senate! He was just told he can't go in the senate due to his ankle bracelet because he's a garbage human being."
You got me, Seran!
Nobody has commented on the most interesting thing to happen so far in the trial.
Yesterday we had this..
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Chief Justice of the United States John Roberts blocked Kentucky Republican Sen. Rand Paul from posing a question during the Senate impeachment trial Wednesday that would have named the alleged whistleblower at the center of the case, Fox News is told — and Paul may try to force the issue during the question-and-answer session that begins Thursday afternoon.
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A reporter for Roll Call observed that during a break in the trial Wednesday, Paul was fuming.
"I don't want to have to stand up to try and fight for recognition," Paul shouted, according to reporter Niels Lesniewski, who noted that Paul's complaint was "audible from the galleries above the chamber."
"If I have to fight for recognition, I will," Paul said.
And today we got this..
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Sen. Rand Paul named the purported intelligence whistleblower Thursday after Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts refused to read his question including the name in the Senate impeachment trial of President Trump.
The conservative Republican left the proceedings to hold an impromptu press conference at which he fingered the person whom right-wing media have named as the CIA operative in the White House who filed a complaint about Trump’s infamous July 25 call to Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky.
Paul read out his conspiratorial question that Roberts twice refused to read inside the chamber, apparently out of the judge’s respect for federal law protecting whistleblowers from retaliation
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It's a shame this guy's the crazy conservative version of his libertarian father. The attorney of the person Rand Paul named has already publicly called for him to resign.Quote:
Originally Posted by ClydeR
OH I GUESS HE SURE TOLD HIM THEN!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
It's a shame that you hate Mexicans.Quote:
It's a shame this guy's the crazy conservative version of his libertarian father.
What a sham this is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
Democrats are just giving Trump another 4 years on a silver platter.
Then when they lose they'll say he must have cheated and then open 5832094723 new investigations into that and probably try and impeach him again, which they basically already said they were going to do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
I hope the House gets flipped in November so the left will achieve maximum butthurt.
When he wins again, he gets at least one more Supreme Court pick.Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
Democrat House Impeachment Managers: Soliciting aid from a foreign country to help in your election is illegal! Trump should be in jail!!!!!
A Senator asks: By that standard is what Hillary Clinton did illegal in regards to the Steele dossier?
Democrat House Impeachment Managers: That's different, Hillary Clinton paid for that.
Okay now you Democrats can admit this whole thing is just a sham.
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Originally Posted by Gelston
I don't think you understand the difference between opposition research and blackmailing a foreign power in violation of federal law for personal gain. Neither does most of the Senate however, so I guess your intelligence is on par.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
Look, fuck nugget who hates Mexicans, apparently you haven't been keeping up with this shit as much as you think you have. Democrats have moved the goal so fast and so far that you still think they are on "OMG! Blackmail! OMG OMG OMG OMG!Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
No. They are now saying Trump just receiving help from a foreign government was illegal and impeachable.
Zoe Lofgren, one of the impeachment managers, said she was "stunned to hear that now apparently it’s OK for the president to get information from foreign governments in an election. That’s news to me."
Democrat Senator Heinrich said, "I have a hard time even believing they were making that argument" in regards to Trump's defense team saying it was okay to receive information from a foreign government.
Democrat Senator Stabenow said, "It’s so shocking."
Apparently all Trump had to do was just pay for the information and then everything would have been okay. Remember this is what YOUR POLITICAL PARTY is saying. Not my party. YOUR party.
Sekulow: And now they're saying, now we need witnesses, (turning towards Schiff) after 31 or 32 times you said you proved every aspect of your case, that's what you said.
Schiff: I did.
Sekulow: He just said he did. Well then I don't think we need any witnesses.
Talk about a mic drop moment. How do the impeachment managers not feel like children trying to have an adult conversation with adults and how do Democrat voters such as Seran not feel sorry for them? Because this is downright embarrassing to watch.
Yeah, it's pretty amazing all of the evidence dragged up despite all the opposition and obstruction presented by the White House. I totally get why you and Senate Republicans are terrified of the idea of witnesses, especially someone as celebrated at John Bolton stepping up and like everyone else, pointing out Trump is lying. Despite his being the command and thief, he's still a newcomer to the party and he's really choosing the wrong folks to alienate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
All Trump said was let the courts decide. Why do you hate due process and the courts as much as you hate Mexicans? Show us on this doll where the mean courts touched you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAQuote:
Originally Posted by Seran
Oh wait, you're serious, let me laugh even harder.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHA
The Judiciary is an entirely separate branch of the federal government. The House enacted their /sole/ constitutional right to investigate and impeach a sitting president. The President, for all that he did managed to land himself a second impeachment charge. I imagine the third, fourth and fifth impeachment charge will follow the same format.