Russia Just Invaded Ukraine

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03-16-2022, 02:51 PM
Seran

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Originally Posted by Neveragain

We're not talking about the middle class, we're talking about how Clinton walked all over the poor. You know, the class of people that Democrats pretend to care about?

It was literally "here's a $2000 income tax credit for the jobs that would have gained your family $5000".

What's gross is you ignoring the huge fucking leap when Clinton signed NAFTA and Clintons crime bill that devastated poor families.

Ah, this is the part of the conversation when we just make shit up to defend your faulty argument, got it. Anything else you'd like to make up? Maybe how Donald Trump's massive tax cuts for the the wealthy have resulted in every American becoming a millionaire. Or maybe you wanna talk about how similar tax cuts for their wealthy under Ronald Reagan wasn't the kickoff of the income inequality you're trying to pin on Bill Clinton. While you're at it, you may wanna throw in how Putin is the aggrieved party trying to protect himself from Ukrainian parties, you know, by killing innocents.
03-16-2022, 03:21 PM
Parkbandit

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Originally Posted by Seran

Ah, this is the part of the conversation when we just make shit up to defend your faulty argument, got it. Anything else you'd like to make up?

Let's see...

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Maybe how Donald Trump's massive tax cuts for the the wealthy have resulted in every American becoming a millionaire.

No one ever said this. Ever. You completely made this up.

But I guess after being told by countless people that Trump's tax cuts helped the vast majority of Americans.. you decided to go in a different direction.

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Or maybe you wanna talk about how similar tax cuts for their wealthy under Ronald Reagan wasn't the kickoff of the income inequality you're trying to pin on Bill Clinton.

LOL. Talk about revisionist history and things you'd like to make up.

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While you're at it, you may wanna throw in how Putin is the aggrieved party trying to protect himself from Ukrainian parties, you know, by killing innocents.

And the trifecta of making shit up.

If you had any self awareness at all, you would realize how fucking stupid you are.... but you don't so we have you to entertain us.

Thank you for being our Champion.
03-16-2022, 03:25 PM
Neveragain

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Originally Posted by Seran

Ah, this is the part of the conversation when we just make shit up to defend your faulty argument, got it. Anything else you'd like to make up? Maybe how Donald Trump's massive tax cuts for the the wealthy have resulted in every American becoming a millionaire. Or maybe you wanna talk about how similar tax cuts for their wealthy under Ronald Reagan wasn't the kickoff of the income inequality you're trying to pin on Bill Clinton. While you're at it, you may wanna throw in how Putin is the aggrieved party trying to protect himself from Ukrainian parties, you know, by killing innocents.

What exactly did I make up?

Every graphic available shows exactly what happened when Clinton signed NAFTA. The wealth gap was actually tightening towards the end of the 80's/early 90's, then Clinton sold out and it's been a shitstorm ever since.

I'm not even touching on Clinton selling out to the Chinese.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i..._69NM&usqp=CAU
03-16-2022, 05:47 PM
Seran

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Originally Posted by Neveragain

What exactly did I make up?

Every graphic available shows exactly what happened when Clinton signed NAFTA. The wealth gap was actually tightening towards the end of the 80's/early 90's, then Clinton sold out and it's been a shitstorm ever since.

I'm not even touching on Clinton selling out to the Chinese.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i..._69NM&usqp=CAU

Because your association between NAFTA and the wealth gap is pure fiction. You could literally pick any single accomplishment or failure and point at section of the graph as proof of the inane argument. Where's your proof? I shouldn't even have to point out that NAFTA was actually negotiated by H W Bush. But I'm sure you didn't bother researching that either. Were you even aware the framework for the Canada side of the agreement was created by the Reagan administration?

My guess is no. You've got a graph and whatever fictions you want to associate with it are all you need to be happy in life.
03-16-2022, 07:46 PM
ClydeR

Chris Cappy is a veteran who made a number of humorous videos about his Army service. Since the Ukraine war started, he has gotten attention for his analysis and commentary. Look at the below tweet..

https://i.imgur.com/DnQjOwa.png
https://twitter.com/Cappyarmy/status...77766123589633

The US has an awesome new armored vehicle in the works with reactive armor, as shown in the below video. Even so, it seems almost impossible to counter cheap missile launchers and drones. They just have to get through your vehicle's defenses once.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHkSdN1NleQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHkSdN1NleQ

It seems like the only answer is defensive drone swarms to accompany armored units.
03-16-2022, 08:27 PM
~Rocktar~

The issue with Russian reactive armor is that it doesn't have the explosive in it so it isn't reactive. They don't have the slat armor that we use on stuff in Iraq so yeah, they are in for it.
03-16-2022, 09:32 PM
Gelston

The Marine Corps completely dropped tanks, more to fit an amphibious style of warfare, but also because they really are becoming less viable.

The vehicle ClydeR was posting is not a tank, but rather an IFV which is meant to carry infantry into battle and then provide supporting fires.

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Originally Posted by ~Rocktar~

The issue with Russian reactive armor is that it doesn't have the explosive in it so it isn't reactive. They don't have the slat armor that we use on stuff in Iraq so yeah, they are in for it.

You can have all the reactive armor you want, Javelins hit from the top.
03-16-2022, 09:41 PM
Neveragain

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Originally Posted by Seran

Because your association between NAFTA and the wealth gap is pure fiction. You could literally pick any single accomplishment or failure and point at section of the graph as proof of the inane argument. Where's your proof? I shouldn't even have to point out that NAFTA was actually negotiated by H W Bush. But I'm sure you didn't bother researching that either. Were you even aware the framework for the Canada side of the agreement was created by the Reagan administration?

My guess is no. You've got a graph and whatever fictions you want to associate with it are all you need to be happy in life.

https://media4.giphy.com/media/xKITdwlPA1Eyc/200.gif
03-16-2022, 09:52 PM
Parkbandit

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Originally Posted by Gelston

You can have all the reactive armor you want, Javelins hit from the top.

Russia was making some weird grate shit on the top of their tanks so they aren't immediately killed by 1 javelin.
https://p3-tt-ipv6.byteimg.com/origi...d271c469b8.jpg
03-16-2022, 11:07 PM
~Rocktar~

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Originally Posted by Gelston

The Marine Corps completely dropped tanks, more to fit an amphibious style of warfare, but also because they really are becoming less viable.

The vehicle ClydeR was posting is not a tank, but rather an IFV which is meant to carry infantry into battle and then provide supporting fires.

You can have all the reactive armor you want, Javelins hit from the top.

You mean like the stuff on the top of this?

https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/tank...-160705516.jpg

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