Things that made you laugh today (Political Version)

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05-10-2022, 01:46 PM
Gelston

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Originally Posted by Seran

Bahaha did you really just posit that an opinion from a physician prior to the advent of the field of medicine is proof of when life begins? Wow, just wow. They were also saying the world was flat, underneath our feet was Hades and that the head of their pantheon created multiple species from banging animals, should we also be taking that as some sort of indisputable fact regarding procreation, planetology and geology?

She said the idea that life began at conception was a new belief and only began after Roe v Wade. It didn't. Stop being dense.

Also, no one really ever believed the Earth was flat, at least, not people with education.

Eratosthenes in the 200s BC calculated the circumference of the Earth to within 1.5% of its size.
05-10-2022, 01:53 PM
Neveragain

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Originally Posted by time4fun

I'm sorry- scientific fact?

The notion that life begins at conception is not a "scientific fact"- there's no consensus on that. There's not even a formal scientific "opinion" on the matter because it's a philosophical question, not a scientific one.

What you are claiming as a fact is actually a belief. And a new one at that.

In the late 60s/early 70s Evangelical community came together at various points to talk about the issue and, for the most part, the belief was that life begins at birth. NOT conception. And that was based on scripture:

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The idea that life begins at conception is a political narrative that was started largely after the Roe v Wade decision to organize the religious right. So it's only been a "widespread" belief (and it's not even *that* widespread) for the past few decades.

It was never a scientific stance. And it's still not. It's an arbitrary belief people started to get conservative people out to vote for their political opponents.

And if you think I'm wrong, then please show us non-partisan, objective scientific literature that clearly demonstrates a consensus belief that life begins at conception. We'll wait.

Time4killingchildren, and the like, is why I support free speech. It allows for all of us to see exactly how ignorant and ghoulish the alt-left is.

Looking forward to all the violence that the alt-left spreads over the coming months. Any over/under bets as to how many houses of faith get burnt to the ground before November?
05-10-2022, 02:06 PM
Solkern

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Originally Posted by Gelston

Imagine if those are the conditions after the child is born. Would you then murder that child? That is how she sees it. Adopt the child out.

All those conditions could have a direct effect with the baby being born with some type of issue/problem, that would make it nearly impossible for them to get adopted. Wouldn’t it be better to get an abortion, rather than throw the baby into a system that seems to forget the children? Living abroad, I see countless parents that have come to China/Russia to adopt children there when we have plenty that need a home back in the states.
05-10-2022, 02:09 PM
Solkern

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Originally Posted by Suppressed Poet

I say no. That’s why we have child protective services. If the mother is truly unfit to care for a child, we have something in place today to address that.

I’m well aware of what we have in place after the child is born, we don’t have anything in place before that.
05-10-2022, 02:10 PM
Neveragain

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Originally Posted by Solkern

Wouldn’t it be better to get an abortion, rather than throw the baby into a system that seems to forget the children?

If we were to eliminate every human that may suffer setbacks in life, none of us would exist.

"You may have a rough life so we have decided you should die."

Sounds reasonable.
05-10-2022, 02:12 PM
Gelston

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Originally Posted by Solkern

All those conditions could have a direct effect with the baby being born with some type of issue/problem, that would make it nearly impossible for them to get adopted. Wouldn’t it be better to get an abortion, rather than throw the baby into a system that seems to forget the children? Living abroad, I see countless parents that have come to China/Russia to adopt children there when we have plenty that need a home back in the states.

Doesn't matter. She sees it as murder, just like if you had a baby that had health problems and you couldn't support so you killed it.
05-10-2022, 02:14 PM
Neveragain

We should carpet bomb every 3rd world country, they would be better off.
05-10-2022, 02:19 PM
Methais

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Originally Posted by Solkern

All those conditions could have a direct effect with the baby being born with some type of issue/problem, that would make it nearly impossible for them to get adopted. Wouldn’t it be better to get an abortion, rather than throw the baby into a system that seems to forget the children? Living abroad, I see countless parents that have come to China/Russia to adopt children there when we have plenty that need a home back in the states.

The fact that Seran somehow managed to make it to adulthood is proof that anybody can do it.
05-10-2022, 03:16 PM
Tgo01

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Originally Posted by drauz

Nothing if the person was raped?

Are you suggesting you would be willing to comprise; all abortions outlawed with the exceptions of rape, incest, and health of the mother? Or are you just using the trauma of rape victims to push your political agenda of making all abortions legal?
05-10-2022, 03:21 PM
Tgo01

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Originally Posted by time4fun

The notion that life begins at conception is not a "scientific fact"- there's no consensus on that. There's not even a formal scientific "opinion" on the matter because it's a philosophical question, not a scientific one.

It's hilarious that you knuckle draggers will screech at the top of your lungs about how important Roe is, yet NO WHERE IN THE ROE DECISION does it state that the fetus isn't a baby, or that it isn't a life, or that it's just a clump of cells.

All the Roe decision says is women have the right to abort their babies. All this nonsense of "it's not a baby!111!!!!" came from people like you after the fact.