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ClydeR
08-08-2015, 10:39 PM
Now that another four years have passed, it's time to talk about rape and abortion again. Megyn Kelly asked two of the candidates about it during the debate. Walker (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvsm1aAjxXE) was clear that he opposes all aboriton, including for rape. Rubio (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaANnxdXSIo), who draws less courage from his convictions, seemed to say the same. If either Walker or Rubio is the Republican presidential nominee, then you will hear a lot more about it. That's for certain.


KELLY: Governor Walker, you’ve consistently said that you want to make abortion illegal even in cases of rape, incest, or to save the life of the mother. You recently signed an abortion law in Wisconsin that does have an exception for the mother’s life, but you’re on the record as having objected to it. Would you really let a mother die rather than have an abortion, and with 83 percent of the American public in favor of a life exception, are you too out of the mainstream on this issue to win the general election?

WALKER: Well, I’m pro-life, I’ve always been pro-life, and I’ve got a position that I think is consistent with many Americans out there in that…

(APPLAUSE) WALKER: …in that I believe that that is an unborn child that’s in need of protection out there, and I’ve said many a time that that unborn child can be protected, and there are many other alternatives that can also protect the life of that mother. That’s been consistently proven.

Unlike Hillary Clinton, who has a radical position in terms of support for Planned Parenthood, I defunded Planned Parenthood more than four years ago, long before any of these videos came out…

(APPLAUSE)

WALKER: …I’ve got a position that’s in line with everyday America.

More... (http://time.com/3988276/republican-debate-primetime-transcript-full-text/)





KELLY: Senator Rubio, you favor a rape and incest exception to abortion bans. Cardinal Timothy Dolan of New York just said yesterday those exceptions are preposterous. He said they discriminate against an entire class of human beings. If you believe that life begins at conception, as you say you do, how do you justify ending a life just because it begins violently, through no fault of the baby?

RUBIO: Well, Megyn, first of all, I’m not sure that that’s a correct assessment of my record. I would go on to add that I believe all–

KELLY: You don’t favor a rape and incest exception?

RUBIO: I have never said that. And I have never advocated that. What I have advocated is that we pass law in this country that says all human life at every stage of its development is worthy of protection.

In fact, I think that law already exists. It is called the Constitution of the United States.

(APPLAUSE)

RUBIO: And let me go further. I believe that every single human being is entitled to the protection of our laws, whether they can vote or not. Whether they can speak or not. Whether they can hire a lawyer or not. Whether they have a birth certificate or not. And I think future generations will look back at this history of our country and call us barbarians for murdering millions of babies who we never gave them a chance to live.

(APPLAUSE)

Androidpk
08-08-2015, 11:18 PM
Your shtick is far beyond old, Latrin.

ClydeR
08-10-2015, 09:52 PM
Rubio went on Chris Cuomo's show and said that he is against all abortion, including in the case of rape. Cuomo is a terrible interviewer.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwaOOmHd-UE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwaOOmHd-UE

Rubio and Walker are a clear signal that the pro-life movement is gaining the upper hand (http://www.gallup.com/poll/1576/abortion.aspx). Just a few years ago, no pro-life candidate would ever have admitted to opposing abortion in the case of rape. Now, Republican candidates view it as a path to the nomination.

ClydeR
02-04-2016, 11:05 AM
Republican presidential hopeful Chris Christie on Thursday said primary rival Marco Rubio’s stance on abortion is too extreme for New Hampshire.

The New Jersey governor said Rubio’s position against exceptions in the cases of rape, incest and threat to the life of the mother should give voters in the Feb. 9 primary cause for concern.

“I will tell you one thing Marco Rubio has done, he has made it very clear that on the issue of pro-life, Marco Rubio is not for an exception for ... rape, incest or life of the mother,” Christie said on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe."

More... (http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/268184-christie-rubio-too-extreme-on-abortion-for-new-hampshire)

I knew this would come up again.

Geijon Khyree
02-04-2016, 02:21 PM
You post these without sharing your stance, ClydeR. I think we can all be pro life, and I think for the most part humanity values life collectively, but it seems like common sense that abortion should be a valid option in these instances as presented. Especially since abortion is still legal and this is a double extreme, both to make it illegal and to restrict it in cases stated.

I normally don't wade into these because negative rep is a given from these political threads and I know you're a staunch Republican, but I never thought it was a universal stance that pro lifers and/or Republicans felt that rape, incest, etc wasn't grounds for it as an option. It's a rather extreme situation.

ClydeR
02-04-2016, 03:58 PM
I normally don't wade into these because negative rep is a given from these political threads and I know you're a staunch Republican, but I never thought it was a universal stance that pro lifers and/or Republicans felt that rape, incest, etc wasn't grounds for it as an option. It's a rather extreme situation.

I agree with Rubio that the government should force women who are raped to give birth.

And what do you mean it's an "extreme situation"? Rape babies are not extreme babies. They're just babies. And it's just as bad to kill them as it is to kill other babies. Be more logical next time.

Geijon Khyree
02-07-2016, 12:36 AM
I agree with Rubio that the government should force women who are raped to give birth.

And what do you mean it's an "extreme situation"? Rape babies are not extreme babies. They're just babies. And it's just as bad to kill them as it is to kill other babies. Be more logical next time.

You answered for once.