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nindon
04-09-2015, 09:08 PM
This could definitely work for Jindal.


Following on the heels of contentious religious freedom bills in Indiana and Arkansas, Jindal said he plans to support his state's own bill.

More... (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2015/04/08/the-real-religious-freedom-fight-is-about-to-begin-in-louisiana/)

The law in Louisiana is different. It will only be about marriage.


Backing the bill is a calculated risk for Jindal, who already stood up for the original bill in Indiana that Pence later pushed to clarify. Although it isn't like other states', it looks as if the public reaction could be similar, and Pence had a very difficult time beating back the public pressure.

On the flip side, though, is that in a crowded GOP presidential field, it could also give Jindal a national profile more quickly and effectively than anything else he has done, and could turn him into something of a hero in socially conservative circles. Where other Republicans declined to be bold, he will argue, he stood up for religious liberty — a cause he is no stranger to.



When you consider that Obama is drawing attention to the same issue but in the opposite way Jindal will, then it's a safe bet in the Republican primary.


President Barack Obama today suggested at the White House Easter Prayer Breakfast that he’s concerned by “less-than-loving” Christians.

“On Easter, I do reflect on the fact that, as a Christian, I am supposed to love, and I have to say that sometimes when I listen to less-than-loving expressions by Christians, I get concerned, but that’s a topic for another day,” Obama said.

The White House later refused to comment on Obama’s meaning, but pundits on both sides of the aisle speculate that the president was referring to Indiana’s religious freedom law.

“What saddens me most is not the president’s consistent swipes at orthodox Christianity, it’s another missed opportunity,” Family Research Council President Tony Perkins said, explaining that Obama failed to bring attention to Christian persecution around the world.

More... (http://insider.foxnews.com/2015/04/07/obama-im-concerned-less-loving-expressions-christians)

Fallen
04-09-2015, 09:27 PM
The question is does anyone think you can win the presidency in 2016 while actively seeking to go backwards on gay rights and/or pushing a heavily conservative, faith-based style of governance?

Gelston
04-09-2015, 10:05 PM
The next President of the United States is someone we don't know yet.

Thondalar
04-09-2015, 10:09 PM
The question is does anyone think you can win the presidency in 2016 while actively seeking to go backwards on gay rights and/or pushing a heavily conservative, faith-based style of governance?

If the opponent is sufficiently ghastly, perhaps.

Thondalar
04-09-2015, 10:10 PM
The next President of the United States is someone we don't know yet.

Doubtful. We might not expect them to win, but I'm sure most of us know them.

Your average voter...well...that's a different story.

Gelston
04-10-2015, 10:41 AM
Doubtful. We might not expect them to win, but I'm sure most of us know them.

Your average voter...well...that's a different story.

Did you know Obama before his run?

Parkbandit
04-10-2015, 10:56 AM
Did you know Obama before his run?

Yes

Androidpk
04-10-2015, 10:58 AM
I thought this was going to be about lock picking.

Gelston
04-10-2015, 10:59 AM
Yes

Yeah? You knew about a random Senator from Illinois? I mean, knew about him. Not that you knew his name.

Taernath
04-10-2015, 11:08 AM
The question is does anyone think you can win the presidency in 2016 while actively seeking to go backwards on gay rights and/or pushing a heavily conservative, faith-based style of governance?

I don't think so, but the Republican ticket is filled with potential candidates who are going in that direction. The furthest away from that is Rand Paul who is just deferring it to the states. Is there anyone running for the R's who supports gay rights?

Silvean
04-10-2015, 11:15 AM
Yeah? You knew about a random Senator from Illinois? I mean, knew about him. Not that you knew his name.

Obama delivered the keynote address at the 2004 Democratic National Convention. It was very well received at the time and made him nationally famous. I first heard of him shortly before that speech because I lived in Chicago and knew a guy who was working on his senate campaign.

Fallen
04-10-2015, 11:18 AM
I don't think so, but the Republican ticket is filled with potential candidates who are going in that direction. The furthest away from that is Rand Paul who is just deferring it to the states. Is there anyone running for the R's who supports gay rights?

They'll do the same thing they always do. Say whatever they need to in order to lock up the primary, then pivot hard to the center during the general election. Same thing the left does.

Wrathbringer
04-10-2015, 11:51 AM
They'll do the same thing they always do. Lie throughout. Same thing the left does.

Exactly.

Gelston
04-10-2015, 12:00 PM
Obama delivered the keynote address at the 2004 Democratic National Convention. It was very well received at the time and made him nationally famous. I first heard of him shortly before that speech because I lived in Chicago and knew a guy who was working on his senate campaign.

You heard of him because you lived in Chicago. I'll wager the majority of Americans, speech or not, never heard of the guy prior to 2007.

Latrinsorm
04-10-2015, 12:29 PM
I thought this was going to be about lock picking.+1

Parkbandit
04-10-2015, 12:48 PM
Yeah? You knew about a random Senator from Illinois? I mean, knew about him. Not that you knew his name.

Yes, he was a keynote speaker for the 2004 Democratic National Convention.

Parkbandit
04-10-2015, 12:50 PM
I don't think so, but the Republican ticket is filled with potential candidates who are going in that direction. The furthest away from that is Rand Paul who is just deferring it to the states. Is there anyone running for the R's who supports gay rights?

I don't know of a single Republican candidate that is against "gay rights".

Gelston
04-10-2015, 12:52 PM
Yes, he was a keynote speaker for the 2004 Democratic National Convention.

I always knew you were a dirty liberal pretending to hold conservative values.

Parkbandit
04-10-2015, 12:52 PM
Obama delivered the keynote address at the 2004 Democratic National Convention. It was very well received at the time and made him nationally famous. I first heard of him shortly before that speech because I lived in Chicago and knew a guy who was working on his senate campaign.

^

I personally didn't know of him before that speech though. I actually liked that speech.

Parkbandit
04-10-2015, 12:53 PM
I always knew you were a dirty liberal pretending to hold conservative values.

DAMMIT! MY SUPER SECRET IS OUT!

Sun Tzu: "Know thy enemy"

Taernath
04-10-2015, 01:03 PM
I don't know of a single Republican candidate that is against "gay rights".

https://i.imgflip.com/k023a.jpg

Wrathbringer
04-10-2015, 01:06 PM
I don't know of a single Republican candidate that is against "gay rights".

Besides Methais, you mean.

Gelston
04-10-2015, 01:06 PM
https://i.imgflip.com/k023a.jpg

Jindal isn't against gay rights. He just wants to put in a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage if SCOTUS strikes down gay marriage bans.

Taernath
04-10-2015, 01:09 PM
Jindal isn't against gay rights. He just wants to put in a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage if SCOTUS strikes down gay marriage bans.

Sounds pretty anti-gay to me. Or is this a semantics thing where you don't consider marriage a 'right'?

Gelston
04-10-2015, 01:11 PM
Sounds pretty anti-gay to me. Or is this a semantics thing where you don't consider marriage a 'right'?

Marriage is a punishment, not a right.

In that case, he is protecting gays.

Parkbandit
04-10-2015, 02:43 PM
https://i.imgflip.com/k023a.jpg

http://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/56534855.jpg

Taernath
04-10-2015, 03:51 PM
http://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/56534855.jpg

no u

Latrinsorm
04-10-2015, 04:03 PM
I'm with PB on this one, how dare you besmirch the good name of Wedge Antilles. Shows what your know.