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Archigeek
04-07-2015, 08:11 PM
Another homicide involving a police officer caught on video:

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/08/us/south-carolina-officer-is-charged-with-murder-in-black-mans-death.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur&bicmp=AD&bicmlukp=WT.mc_id&bicmst=1409232722000&bicmet=1419773522000&_r=0

Taernath
04-07-2015, 08:16 PM
Yeah, what the fuck. Guy was running away and unarmed. Doesn't matter if he just slugged the cop, the cop can't shoot him like that unless he's about to put someone in imminent danger.

"Coming right for us" in the opposite direction?

JackWhisper
04-07-2015, 08:22 PM
YAY I figured out how to fix my problem.

Anyhoo.

This is ridiculous. I hope the cop gets life and goes to a prison where he put away fellow inmates. And bad things happen to him.

Archigeek
04-07-2015, 08:28 PM
It actually sounds like he puts another bullet in him while he's face down on the ground, but I couldn't tell for sure. There's a bang after the second time the officer says "put your hands behind your back". I'm pretty sure at that point, with at least 4 bullets in him, (with one of those in the head or the heart or both), he wasn't going to be putting his hands behind his back with his own effort. The whole thing makes no sense.

JackWhisper
04-07-2015, 08:29 PM
I just finished watching the entire thing. Without a doubt, this is absolutely ridiculous.

There is a *TENUOUS* part of the law that says if the fleeing suspect is a danger to others, you can shoot them. That's the boiled down version, it's more intricate than that, but yeah.

The taser is what he picked up when he ran back, then dropped it next to the guy.

An unarmed, fleeing suspect cannot be shot unless he presents a reasonable and imminent threat of mortal danger to innocent bystanders or police officers involved.

This guy is so going to jail for murder. Good.

JackWhisper
04-07-2015, 08:30 PM
What a terrible video. =(. Thank you for posting the article. It was sad to read =(.

Candor
04-07-2015, 08:40 PM
I have found that in most of the recent publicized cases of white officers shooting blacks that I have supported the actions of the officer.

However given the video, it's pretty obvious why murder charges have been brought against this officer. The officer will most likely be going to prison for a long time, if not the rest of his life. They should use this video in police training as a shining example of what never to do.

JackWhisper
04-07-2015, 08:44 PM
The second cop needs to be put in jail too.

Did you see that? The second cop CLEARLY saw the guy drop the item next to the guy. Said nothing. Did nothing. Just backed his brother in blue up. That's horseshit.

Archigeek
04-07-2015, 09:06 PM
The second cop needs to be put in jail too.

Did you see that? The second cop CLEARLY saw the guy drop the item next to the guy. Said nothing. Did nothing. Just backed his brother in blue up. That's horseshit.

I think I can cut the second officer some slack. We don't know what he did afterwards, during interviews etc. It's a lot to ask that a person, cop or not, do exactly the perfect thing every time they are confronted with a difficult situation. He may have been prioritizing the situation etc, though it would appear to be pretty obvious that the guy was dead. Also, he didn't shoot anyone. You might be right, but it's hard to say.

Also, I'm a little surprised that the officer who shot the guy either doesn't realize he's being filmed, or doesn't understand the implications of what he's doing being caught on film. The guy doing the filming was pretty brave to stick around.

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JackWhisper
04-07-2015, 09:08 PM
I think I can cut the second officer some slack. We don't know what he did afterwards, during interviews etc. It's a lot to ask that a person, cop or not, do exactly the perfect thing every time they are confronted with a difficult situation. He may have been prioritizing the situation etc, though it would appear to be pretty obvious that the guy was dead. Also, he didn't shoot anyone. You might be right, but it's hard to say.

Also, I'm a little surprised that the officer who shot the guy either doesn't realize he's being filmed, or doesn't understand the implications of what he's doing being caught on film. The guy doing the filming was pretty brave to stick around.

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Okay, I'll give you that. The second officer might have put his word against the first officer. If the second officer did the right thing, I definitely would give him slack. He couldn't have known WHAT happened to cause the shooting, until well after the fact.

First glance though, it does look like he just rolled with it. And not doing anything when the guy dropped a piece of a crime scene... I don't feel good about that. At all. Any way you cut that, that isn't cool. =(

Tgo01
04-07-2015, 09:43 PM
It looks pretty cut and dry and damning for the police officer.

One thing I don't like is the fact that the video appears to be edited to cut everything out before the guy running away, so we don't get to see the struggle or anything. Also assuming the cop's story is correct about the guy taking his stun gun (and it probably is which is why it was cut from the video) then it probably explains why the cop dropped the stun gun near the guy, otherwise everyone would be screaming "How did he take your gun when it was 30 feet from his body?!" In the heat of the moment he probably didn't realize it would make it look like he was framing the guy.

Not that any of that matters; he shot a guy in the back as he was running away instead of running the plates on the car and trying to track the guy down that way. Or, I dunno, chase after him yourself, the guy didn't even look to be running that fast. It's actually kind of surprising this is a real video because the guy seemed to be doing a brisk jog away from the cop instead of actually running away. The cop seems to nonchalant about being filmed, he looks in the cameraman's general direction at least half a dozen times and doesn't even flinch.

Unless he really thought all of his actions were justified so he didn't care, which I guess at that point in time he probably did feel his actions were justified.

JackWhisper
04-07-2015, 09:47 PM
It looks pretty cut and dry and damning for the police officer.

One thing I don't like is the fact that the video appears to be edited to cut everything out before the guy running away, so we don't get to see the struggle or anything. Also assuming the cop's story is correct about the guy taking his stun gun (and it probably is which is why it was cut from the video) then it probably explains why the cop dropped the stun gun near the guy, otherwise everyone would be screaming "How did he take your gun when it was 30 feet from his body?!" In the heat of the moment he probably didn't realize it would make it look like he was framing the guy.

Not that any of that matters; he shot a guy in the back as he was running away instead of running the plates on the car and trying to track the guy down that way. Or, I dunno, chase after him yourself, the guy didn't even look to be running that fast. It's actually kind of surprising this is a real video because the guy seemed to be doing a brisk jog away from the cop instead of actually running away. The cop seems to nonchalant about being filmed, he looks in the cameraman's general direction at least half a dozen times and doesn't even flinch.

Unless he really thought all of his actions were justified so he didn't care, which I guess at that point in time he probably did feel his actions were justified.

What about the part where he picked up the stun gun and dropped it near the guy? And the second officer didn't even flinch at not calling him out on that. Thoughts?

JackWhisper
04-07-2015, 09:49 PM
And yeah, I do understand it was probably edited to not show the guy taking the stun gun. SURE, if the guy had the stun gun, groovy, but the cop didn't search around for it after the fact. He went straight to it, picked it up, dropped it next to the guy. So he *KNEW* the guy didn't have the stun gun when he shot him. He didn't cast around looking for it at any point in the video.

Ugh I'm getting way too into this. This guy needs to be crucified in the news. Police behavior is getting worse and worse. =*(.

waywardgs
04-07-2015, 09:54 PM
The casual taser drop was a clear attempt to manipulate the scene. He knew he did something wrong.

JackWhisper
04-07-2015, 09:55 PM
The casual taser drop was a clear attempt to manipulate the scene. He knew he did something wrong.

So, knowing that, what should the second officer have done? He was looking right at the guy as he did it.

waywardgs
04-07-2015, 10:52 PM
So, knowing that, what should the second officer have done? He was looking right at the guy as he did it.

At that very moment? Nothing. What's he gonna do, place the officer under arrest right there? I don't think it works like that.

That said, no video, no murder charge. Cop probably would have gotten away scott free. Other cop probably would have backed him up.

drauz
04-08-2015, 12:04 AM
Heres a clip with the start. Seems like the guy had just started filming when the guy started running.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sy3iYpErSU

Archigeek
04-08-2015, 01:20 AM
It looks pretty cut and dry and damning for the police officer.

One thing I don't like is the fact that the video appears to be edited to cut everything out before the guy running away, so we don't get to see the struggle or anything. Also assuming the cop's story is correct about the guy taking his stun gun (and it probably is which is why it was cut from the video) then it probably explains why the cop dropped the stun gun near the guy, otherwise everyone would be screaming "How did he take your gun when it was 30 feet from his body?!" In the heat of the moment he probably didn't realize it would make it look like he was framing the guy.

Not that any of that matters; he shot a guy in the back as he was running away instead of running the plates on the car and trying to track the guy down that way. Or, I dunno, chase after him yourself, the guy didn't even look to be running that fast. It's actually kind of surprising this is a real video because the guy seemed to be doing a brisk jog away from the cop instead of actually running away. The cop seems to nonchalant about being filmed, he looks in the cameraman's general direction at least half a dozen times and doesn't even flinch.

Unless he really thought all of his actions were justified so he didn't care, which I guess at that point in time he probably did feel his actions were justified.

I think the officer's story is mostly a work of fiction. I'm pretty sure he fired the tazer at the guy and when that didn't work, rather than chases a 50 year old man, he pulls out his gun and lets off 7-8 rounds at his back from 15-20 yards, hitting him 4-5 times. Listen to the sound after the second time he tells the motionless guy he just shot, to put his hands behind his back, there's another pop, when you can't see the video well. If he put another round in him at point blank he might even get first degree, and it should be detectable to a medical examiner if he did.

Tgo01
04-08-2015, 01:28 AM
I think the officer's story is mostly a work of fiction. I'm pretty sure he fired the tazer at the guy and when that didn't work, rather than chases a 50 year old man, he pulls out his gun and lets off 7-8 rounds at his back from 15-20 yards, hitting him 4-5 times. Listen to the sound after the second time he tells the motionless guy he just shot, to put his hands behind his back, there's another pop, when you can't see the video well. If he put another round in him at point blank he might even get first degree, and it should be detectable to a medical examiner if he did.

So the cop was just bored and was looking for someone to murder that day?

Candor
04-08-2015, 01:34 AM
If he put another round in him at point blank he might even get first degree, and it should be detectable to a medical examiner if he did.

If that was a shot, then a medical examiner should be able to verify the shot made at point blank range. And if so, how could the charge not be murder one?

Given the officer's reaction (or lack thereof), I think every shooting he was ever involved in should be reinvestigated. Hopefully there are none.

Archigeek
04-08-2015, 01:37 AM
So the cop was just bored and was looking for someone to murder that day?

Hey, how would I know what his motives were? Laziness? Maybe he'd already chased three guys that day? Maybe he'd already arrested this guy three times this year and he was sick of it? I don't know. By the way, if you read the article it says that the police report states that he'd fired the tazer. It also states that they gave him CPR afterwards. If it weren't for the video, which pretty much contradicts the police report, no one would be facing any charges. He didn't write the report all by himself, which tells you that Jackwhisper is right, his buddies on the force had his back. Tbe ones that lied on the report will be in trouble too.

Tgo01
04-08-2015, 01:45 AM
Hey, how would I know what his motives were? Laziness? Maybe he'd already chased three guys that day? Maybe he'd already arrested this guy three times this year and he was sick of it? I don't know. By the way, if you read the article it says that the police report states that he'd fired the tazer. It also states that they gave him CPR afterwards. If it weren't for the video, which pretty much contradicts the police report, no one would be facing any charges. He didn't write the report all by himself, which tells you that Jackwhisper is right, his buddies on the force had his back. Tbe ones that lied on the report will be in trouble too.

How do we know he didn't fire his taser? The video conveniently started after the tussle.

it also looked like they were getting ready to administer CPR at the end of the video, again the video conveniently cut out at that part though.

Like I said it looks pretty damning for the officer but I doubt he was just bored and decided to murder someone that day.

Archigeek
04-08-2015, 01:57 AM
How do we know he didn't fire his taser? The video conveniently started after the tussle.

it also looked like they were getting ready to administer CPR at the end of the video, again the video conveniently cut out at that part though.

Like I said it looks pretty damning for the officer but I doubt he was just bored and decided to murder someone that day.

We don't know. How do we know there was a tussle? The guy checked for a pulse and didn't find one; I doubt any officers did CPR afterwards.

waywardgs
04-08-2015, 02:34 AM
i've never seen a video where the cops do cpr on a suspect. They always wait for the medics.

Tgo01
04-08-2015, 02:45 AM
i've never seen a video where the cops do cpr on a suspect. They always wait for the medics.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flUbybUYicY

waywardgs
04-08-2015, 04:26 AM
i've never seen a video where the cops do cpr on a suspect. They always wait for the medics.


tgo's vid


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZPW_umfuV4&feature=iv&src_vid=flUbybUYicY&annotation_id=annotation_3542398787

Here's the complete vid. That wasn't a suspect. They called 911. And anyway, what I meant specifically was someone they just engaged and shot or whatever.

Ker_Thwap
04-08-2015, 08:23 AM
First, I'm not going to watch the video. I don't like snuff videos. I'll just trust all of you that the cop is a murdering vermin, and that his cop buddies lied for him.

I just wanted to interject that performing CPR on an un-bandaged gunshot victim will only serve to pump more more blood out of the body. The body has a neat defense system where it shuts down circulation. The CPR discussion is kind of moot. He should have been discussing tourniquets and compression bandages first depending where the wounds were.

Gelston
04-08-2015, 08:25 AM
Hey, this time they can find the cop guilty to soothe racial tensions, as opposed to the previous ones.

Nah, I saw the video on the news, dude shouldn't have fired.

JackWhisper
04-08-2015, 08:27 AM
And anyway, what I meant specifically was someone they just engaged and shot or whatever.

They shot them, then did CPR, then sprinkled crack on them.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7F50Cd8LME

JackWhisper
04-08-2015, 08:29 AM
Hey, this time they can find the cop guilty to soothe racial tensions, as opposed to the previous ones.

Nah, I saw the video on the news, dude shouldn't have fired.

Yeah the first cop is SUPER fucked. I want to see what they're going to do to the second cop for the crime scene tampering thing, whether the second cop went against what the first said, etc, all that.

It's going to be a huge telling point, what happens to the second cop.

Taernath
04-08-2015, 08:34 AM
I just wanted to interject that performing CPR on an un-bandaged gunshot victim will only serve to pump more more blood out of the body. The body has a neat defense system where it shuts down circulation. The CPR discussion is kind of moot. He should have been discussing tourniquets and compression bandages first depending where the wounds were.

In first aid I was always taught to handle breathing before bleeding. If it's a clean amputation and you've got a tourniquet right there then yeah you could probably put it on real quick before you do CPR, but a compression bandage takes a while to set up, especially if you have to do it multiple times for multiple gunshots. By the time you get that done, oops, he's brain dead.

Atlanteax
04-08-2015, 09:01 AM
I think the officer's story is mostly a work of fiction. I'm pretty sure he fired the tazer at the guy and when that didn't work, rather than chases a 50 year old man, he pulls out his gun and lets off 7-8 rounds at his back from 15-20 yards, hitting him 4-5 times. Listen to the sound after the second time he tells the motionless guy he just shot, to put his hands behind his back, there's another pop, when you can't see the video well. If he put another round in him at point blank he might even get first degree, and it should be detectable to a medical examiner if he did.

By all visual indications, the cop should had been easily able to catch up and tackle the guy instead. Or at least chase for awhile until the 2nd officer (or backup) arrive to help corral the dude.

JackWhisper
04-08-2015, 09:18 AM
I watched this video multiple times, but I don't think the 'shot after the 'put your hands behind your back' is actually a shot. I think it's the camera being close to the guy scuffing a box on the ground, or something mundane like that. It doesn't sound like a shot, and even if the camera isn't pointed directly at the guy when that sound occurred, it wouldn't muffle it enough to sound like that.

Thoughts?

Archigeek
04-08-2015, 09:47 AM
I think you're right. Unsure, but I think so. Sounds like a shot, and it would sound differently at close range, but probably not that much.

waywardgs
04-08-2015, 10:05 AM
From what I'm reading it's often against policy for the cops engaged in the shooting to administer first aid because of concerns about a conflict of interest. I found a few instances where it's happened but for the most part it seems that's why you don't see cops doing first aid in these types of videos. Pretty fucked if that's true.

elcidcannon
04-08-2015, 10:24 AM
From what I'm reading it's often against policy for the cops engaged in the shooting to administer first aid because of concerns about a conflict of interest. I found a few instances where it's happened but for the most part it seems that's why you don't see cops doing first aid in these types of videos. Pretty fucked if that's true.

yeah. perhaps it's a strange exception in the good samaritan laws.

Nieninque
04-08-2015, 10:51 AM
Listen to the sound after the second time he tells the motionless guy he just shot, to put his hands behind his back, there's another pop, when you can't see the video well.

The camera is a bit shaky at that point, but you can see that the copper looks like he's putting his gun away rather than being in a shooting position. The pop doesn't sound like a gunshot. The bloke with a camera phone is closer at that point so you would expect the pop to be as loud as the opening shots were, not only was it not as loud but it was followed up by a second one shortly afterwards. I think this was something to do with the handling of the phone, rather than a second gunshot.

waywardgs
04-08-2015, 11:01 AM
yeah. perhaps it's a strange exception in the good samaritan laws.

From what I'm reading- again, I can't find any sources about the exact policies- the good samaritan laws don't apply for some reason and liability is still an issue, which is why they don't do it. I know this is off topic and not really pertinent here, but sheesh... it's always disturbing when liability concerns take precedent over lives.

Nieninque
04-08-2015, 11:03 AM
People concerned with lives, generally don't stick a gun full of bullets into aforementioned life holder.

Candor
04-08-2015, 11:10 AM
This is now the lead story on CNN's website.

JackWhisper
04-08-2015, 11:16 AM
I want to see Obama comment on this. Not because I think he has some incredible insight into this issue, but because I think he should comment on the more and more common overzealousness of police officers.

I don't know whether hiring standards are just becoming more lax, or people are just growing stupider as generations unfold, but the palpable tension because of police misconduct is simply staggering in the last dozen years. And it's only growing worse.

And no one has identified the second policeman *yet*. I want to know what's going on with that guy.

waywardgs
04-08-2015, 11:32 AM
I want to see Obama comment on this. Not because I think he has some incredible insight into this issue, but because I think he should comment on the more and more common overzealousness of police officers.

I don't know whether hiring standards are just becoming more lax, or people are just growing stupider as generations unfold, but the palpable tension because of police misconduct is simply staggering in the last dozen years. And it's only growing worse.

And no one has identified the second policeman *yet*. I want to know what's going on with that guy.

You know what I think has changed? Everyone has cameras now.

Atlanteax
04-08-2015, 11:57 AM
You know what I think has changed? Everyone has cameras now.

Hence why the recommendation that all police departments equip their officers with one.

If the officers are 'in the right' then their own cameras would provide the proof.

JackWhisper
04-08-2015, 11:59 AM
Yeah aren't they outfitting police officers with cameras on their person at all times? I realize not every department has that, but isn't it becoming the norm?

Parkbandit
04-08-2015, 01:13 PM
The camera is a bit shaky at that point, but you can see that the copper looks like he's putting his gun away rather than being in a shooting position. The pop doesn't sound like a gunshot. The bloke with a camera phone is closer at that point so you would expect the pop to be as loud as the opening shots were, not only was it not as loud but it was followed up by a second one shortly afterwards. I think this was something to do with the handling of the phone, rather than a second gunshot.

Can someone translate this into proper English please?

waywardgs
04-08-2015, 01:25 PM
Yeah aren't they outfitting police officers with cameras on their person at all times? I realize not every department has that, but isn't it becoming the norm?

Not even close to full deployment yet. It's still expensive, and there's about a million cops nationwide. It'll be quite a while before that tech becomes standard.

Johnny Five
04-08-2015, 02:17 PM
I want to see Obama comment on this. Not because I think he has some incredible insight into this issue, but because I think he should comment on the more and more common overzealousness of police officers.

I don't know whether hiring standards are just becoming more lax, or people are just growing stupider as generations unfold, but the palpable tension because of police misconduct is simply staggering in the last dozen years. And it's only growing worse.

And no one has identified the second policeman *yet*. I want to know what's going on with that guy.

It might be a stretch but I think less people just want to be cops now and they don't get the top pick of the pool anymore. I mean I don't see a ton of perks being a cop. People try to kill you. People hate you unless they need help then they love you then when you are done it's all "fuck the police" again. There are bad eggs in every profession.

Tisket
04-08-2015, 02:28 PM
What a fucking disgrace.

Latrinsorm
04-08-2015, 02:47 PM
I want to see Obama comment on this. Not because I think he has some incredible insight into this issue, but because I think he should comment on the more and more common overzealousness of police officers.

I don't know whether hiring standards are just becoming more lax, or people are just growing stupider as generations unfold, but the palpable tension because of police misconduct is simply staggering in the last dozen years. And it's only growing worse.

And no one has identified the second policeman *yet*. I want to know what's going on with that guy.Police brutality, especially directed against minorities, is in no way (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cases_of_police_brutality_in_the_United_St ates) a new phenomenon. Bull Connor used attack dogs on children... and was re-elected! Members of the early labor movement were literally machine gunned by police... who were acquitted (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lattimer_massacre)!

Even though you are just barely scratching the surface on contemporary police brutality, it doesn't hold a candle to the past, and it will continue to improve as our surveillance state increases in power. We have a lot of fun with my universal surveillance idea, but man, I bet after you read these stories a couple more cameras sound pretty good, eh?

kutter
04-08-2015, 03:39 PM
As someone that has been a LEO and knowing a lot of them I can tell you that it does severely jade your perception of people. When you only deal with bad guys you eventually think of everyone as a bad guy. This does not in anyway excuse this officers behaviour, he was pretty clearly in the wrong and I doubt that even if the video did not exist he would have gotten off. The forensic evidence would have all shown impacts to the posterior and none to the anterior which would immediately raise some issues.

Having said that, 7 shots and 4 or 5 hits is pretty damn good shooting, guy should have been in the military instead of the police.

Gelston
04-08-2015, 03:45 PM
As someone that has been a LEO and knowing a lot of them I can tell you that it does severely jade your perception of people. When you only deal with bad guys you eventually think of everyone as a bad guy. This does not in anyway excuse this officers behaviour, he was pretty clearly in the wrong and I doubt that even if the video did not exist he would have gotten off. The forensic evidence would have all shown impacts to the posterior and none to the anterior which would immediately raise some issues.

Having said that, 7 shots and 4 or 5 hits is pretty damn good shooting, guy should have been in the military instead of the police.

Nah, pistols are a last stand weapon in the military.

Thondalar
04-08-2015, 05:42 PM
Police brutality, especially directed against minorities, is in no way (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cases_of_police_brutality_in_the_United_St ates) a new phenomenon. Bull Connor used attack dogs on children... and was re-elected! Members of the early labor movement were literally machine gunned by police... who were acquitted (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lattimer_massacre)!

Even though you are just barely scratching the surface on contemporary police brutality, it doesn't hold a candle to the past, and it will continue to improve as our surveillance state increases in power. We have a lot of fun with my universal surveillance idea, but man, I bet after you read these stories a couple more cameras sound pretty good, eh?


This, to a degree, and what Wayward said..it isn't that it is happening more now, we're just more aware of it now. As police forces around the country move to cameras on their cops I foresee an increase in these situations before a decrease, but with a severe decrease eventually.

While I'm all for police being on camera, that's a far cry from universal surveillance.

As to Jack's "2nd cop" concerns, I think someone else already touched on this, but even if the other cop was straight as an arrow, he wouldn't mess with anything right then and there, or say anything about it right then and there. It would only further complicate an already complicated situation. He would, however, file it in his report, and/or report it to a supervisor. I'm curious as to whether or not this occurred as well, but I doubt we'll ever know.

As far as the officer goes, he should most certainly be charged with 2nd degree murder, as well as tampering with evidence and any other felony they can come up with. Although I'm generally a big supporter of the death penalty, I would rather he not receive that, even if it were possible (which I doubt, but anyway)...inmates love cops. I don't think there is any proper punishment for willingly taking the life of another person, but 40 or 50 years in general population would be a good start.

Gompers
04-08-2015, 08:01 PM
http://i.imgur.com/iUwFU8I.jpg

Atlanteax
04-09-2015, 09:43 AM
Probably not just for African Americans, but yes, predominantly them.

Androidpk
04-09-2015, 12:22 PM
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ocytgzzKZy4/VR0kJl6E--I/AAAAAAAABcY/z-11ABXtfGw/s1600/copadelmong.jpg

waywardgs
04-09-2015, 06:38 PM
Dashcam video.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WV4FzE4rNdk

Thondalar
04-09-2015, 07:28 PM
Dashcam video.

Not even sure why they bothered releasing this. It doesn't change anything.

Gelston
04-09-2015, 10:08 PM
He was wrong. He should not have run. The officer still should not have shot and killed him. Let him go. Pick him up later. You have his car and ID. You know where he lives.

Thondalar
04-09-2015, 10:12 PM
He was wrong. He should not have run.

Agreed.


The officer still should not have shot and killed him.

Agreed.


Not sure what your point is. One of these is very obviously more egregious than the other.

Gompers
04-09-2015, 10:23 PM
He was wrong. He should not have run. The officer still should not have shot and killed him. Let him go. Pick him up later. You have his car and ID. You know where he lives.

Agreed on all counts. Seems like this cop has an itchy trigger finger, and will (hopefully) spend a majority of the rest of his life in prison for it.

But let's face it - if this cop goes to jail, he will probably be murdered there, unless he spends time at a cozy cop-friendly jail, which will probably be the case.

Nieninque
04-10-2015, 07:40 AM
Can someone translate this into proper English please?

I'll cut you, Bitch

Tisket
04-10-2015, 12:29 PM
Not even sure why they bothered releasing this. It doesn't change anything.

It shows events leading up to a tragedy so why wouldn't they release it?

Thondalar
04-10-2015, 02:30 PM
But let's face it - if this cop goes to jail, he will probably be murdered there, unless he spends time at a cozy cop-friendly jail, which will probably be the case.

There are minimum security Federal prisons that are pretty much no worse than your average live-in rehab center, but State prisons (where this officer would be going) have no such thing.

The best he could hope for is close custody (aka solitary), which is its own sort of hell.

Tgo01
04-10-2015, 03:19 PM
Oz taught me that prisons have an entire section just for housing police officers convicted of a crime.

Gelston
04-10-2015, 03:21 PM
Oz taught me that prisons have an entire section just for housing police officers convicted of a crime.

That shit wasn't on TV either. It was on HBO.

Atlanteax
04-10-2015, 10:04 PM
Apparently there was a witness that saw the cop and dude tussle some prior to dude running again. Should be on CNN.

Candor
04-10-2015, 10:14 PM
Apparently there was a witness that saw the cop and dude tussle some prior to dude running again. Should be on CNN.

I haven't seen the story, but as far as the murder charge, I don't see how anything could change.