So I wanna get a big kid job

[waywardgs]

Speak for yourself.

Personally, I want details.

Yeah, I'll probably keep on reading this damn thread too. Hah.

[Ker_Thwap]

How much I make isn't the issue, it's that for (very literally) years I was constantly told here that I would "never make it in the real world," that my ideas were terrible because "otherwise someone would be paying me for them," etc. I now outearn those people (by selling my good ideas to a company, no less!), and I'm very happy to disclose that. GR happened to be connected to this because she said a bunch of dumb shit in the past re: how she's a legend in her field and will be making tons of money very shortly. She neither listened to the truth nor applied herself. That's no one else's fault.

I was never friend zoned. GR has some serious mental health issues that she should take care of, but instead she borderline flaunts her shitty decision making as an asset repeatedly. Maybe being in the same room as her and msconstrew was awkward because they were fucking the same guy? I don't know. I just remember her acting the way she always does and myself getting drunk.

That clears it up. For years the PC questioned your skillz, and now you're back to let the internet know that you've won. Got it!

I can't actually fault you for mocking her shitty decision making. I know too many people in real life, who are eager to tell you what a great horrible idea that they have, ask for my advice, and then ignore it.

Then again, it's her life, so even if she ends up sleeping with a scrub like pk, instead of a charming rock star like you, I'm not sure why that's pertinent to anything. Surely a bright guy like yourself must see why your bringing up that topic made you look silly. It just comes across as childish.

What do I know, I'm just an opinionated spectator.

[Gnome Rage]

I was never friend zoned. GR has some serious mental health issues that she should take care of, but instead she borderline flaunts her shitty decision making as an asset repeatedly. Maybe being in the same room as her and msconstrew was awkward because they were fucking the same guy? I don't know. I just remember her acting the way she always does and myself getting drunk.

Are we talking about the night that we all met up in Boston, and you called me because you needed me and Kellen to find you outside the bar because you supposedly didn't know what anyone else looked like, and then chose to sit directly next to me and I asked Kellen to leave early because you made me extremely uncomfortable? I asked to leave early, because you and only you made me feel uncomfortable. This is all I have to say about any of it.

[Ker_Thwap]

This is all I have to say about any of it.

I read that in Forrest Gump voice.

[Taernath]

Are we talking about the night that we all met up in Boston, and you called me because you needed me and Kellen to find you outside the bar because you supposedly didn't know what anyone else looked like, and then chose to sit directly next to me and I asked Kellen to leave early because you made me extremely uncomfortable? I asked to leave early, because you and only you made me feel uncomfortable. This is all I have to say about any of it.

Quoted for posterity and lols

http://i27.tinypic.com/8w0gf8.jpg

[SHAFT]

I really hope this continues throughout the day.

[Ker_Thwap]

I really hope this continues throughout the day.

It won't with that kind of weaksauce reply. Throw some gas on the fire, or GTFO.

[Johnny Five]

Are we talking about the night that we all met up in Boston, and you called me because you needed me and Kellen to find you outside the bar because you supposedly didn't know what anyone else looked like, and then chose to sit directly next to me and I asked Kellen to leave early because you made me extremely uncomfortable? I asked to leave early, because you and only you made me feel uncomfortable. This is all I have to say about any of it.

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSuzQbO2v_C7LR35fCty9PVWUW2VPxSV DtA_A-c4vnYVQV-FwzGGA

[Taernath]

GR, if you could go into more detail about his creepiness it might help things along. Was he just generally awkward? Strange odor? Catch him repeatedly staring at your boobs?

[Tisket]

That clears it up. For years the PC questioned your skillz, and now you're back to let the internet know that you've won. Got it!

We all like to talk about our accomplishments. Not sure why you are not only holding him to a higher standard but acting as some kind of posting arbiter. Seems weird to me but whatever.

[SHAFT]

It won't with that kind of weaksauce reply. Throw some gas on the fire, or GTFO.

Fine I'll play along.

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x176/shaft4783/Mobile%20Uploads/image_1.jpg (http://s184.photobucket.com/user/shaft4783/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_1.jpg.html)

[Johnny Five]

Fine I'll play along.

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x176/shaft4783/Mobile%20Uploads/image_1.jpg (http://s184.photobucket.com/user/shaft4783/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_1.jpg.html)

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT0gs_6dodcwujV3LfnMhZFmoP9pOboH A-79tsq7r9TJ8Jlp7Ol

[Kithus]

https://media0.giphy.com/media/gl0mkIZOW6Nwc/200_s.gif

[Ker_Thwap]

We all like to talk about our accomplishments. Not sure why you are not only holding him to a higher standard but acting as some kind of posting arbiter. Seems weird to me but whatever.

I'm going with the feminist/humanist kind of angle mostly. Based on his initial statement I got the whole "bitter friendzone" "you missed on this cash player" vibe. Leaving early together does not necessarily equate to fucked. So when he went right to fucked, it comes across like he cares too much about something that's flat out none of his business. It's about as pertinent to this thread as to say "you like rootbeer instead of cherry cola."

He clarified that it was about his bitter internet childhood. Can't say I entirely bought this explanation... thus, I mocked this aspect of his argument.

Arbiter, pfft. We all do that Tiskarbiter!

[Bobmuhthol]

Maybe that was based less on your merits and more on the fact that you come across as completely insufferable?

That's just my opinion based off of what you've said here and people have said about you.

Who the fuck are you?

[Bobmuhthol]

I'm going with the feminist/humanist kind of angle mostly. Based on his initial statement I got the whole "bitter friendzone" "you missed on this cash player" vibe. Leaving early together does not necessarily equate to fucked. So when he went right to fucked, it comes across like he cares too much about something that's flat out none of his business. It's about as pertinent to this thread as to say "you like rootbeer instead of cherry cola."

He clarified that it was about his bitter internet childhood. Can't say I entirely bought this explanation... thus, I mocked this aspect of his argument.

Arbiter, pfft. We all do that Tiskarbiter!I'm not coming to conclusions based on my observations. "Leaving early" isn't the evidence I have of anyone doing anything. He wasn't there. She put his penis inside her well before I ever saw her.

[iJin]

Meet ups are scary. After all the stories I've heard from here, I just imagine everyone hitting one another upside the head with beer bottles.

[Bobmuhthol]

Are we talking about the night that we all met up in Boston, and you called me because you needed me and Kellen to find you outside the bar because you supposedly didn't know what anyone else looked like, and then chose to sit directly next to me and I asked Kellen to leave early because you made me extremely uncomfortable? I asked to leave early, because you and only you made me feel uncomfortable. This is all I have to say about any of it.Nothing happened to you and there were like 5 other people at the table. Stop being a fucking baby. Ignoring the fact that I didn't do anything that would make a reasonable person feel uncomfortable, you had a handful of people within arm's reach who would not have been shy to remove me from the situation if I did anything that would make a reasonable person feel uncomfortable.

After you left, the consensus I heard was that you're a weirdo.

I like your phrasing, though. I sat "directly next to you" out of half a dozen people at a round table. That's not an outrageous situation no matter how much you want to make it one.

You also seem to be implying that I just showed up to bother you. I'm not going to tell you how you felt, but I can tell you what you said, and you had no issue beforehand that you ever expressed. I called you because I had your number and you answered your phone. You can regret ever speaking to me, but please do not lie about the context.

[tyrant-201]

Meet ups are scary. After all the stories I've heard from here, I just imagine everyone hitting one another upside the head with beer bottles.

I avoid them at all costs. And not only because I'm a fat troll who loves cheeseburgers. Because people be cray

[Ker_Thwap]

I'm not coming to conclusions based on my observations. "Leaving early" isn't the evidence I have of anyone doing anything. He wasn't there. She put his penis inside her well before I ever saw her.

Are you certain he didn't put her vagina around his penis? My hobby is mocking the guy for his stupid decisions, and even I don't give a crap about who he had consensual sex with. I assure you, I'd have been fascinated about who slept with who when I was fifteen or so. Slut shaming is very last century.

[elcidcannon]

Who the fuck are you?

just one of the people who don't know you personally but think you're a fucktard.

[Ker_Thwap]

I avoid them at all costs. And not only because I'm a fat troll who loves cheeseburgers. Because people be cray

I've only been to one gathering for this game, but I've met a pile of people from previous games. My overwhelming impression is just how normal and polite most people are in person compared to their characters/board personas.

[Tgo01]

I avoid them at all costs. And not only because I'm a fat troll who loves cheeseburgers. Because people be cray

I avoid meet ups because all the women will want to sleep with me and then the men will hate me. Just not worth the it.

[tyrant-201]

I avoid meet ups because all the women will want to sleep with me and then the men will hate me. Just not worth the it.

That must be hard for you.

[iJin]

You guys all must be drunks.

[Ker_Thwap]

You guys all must be drunks.

I had half a beer last night. What is that obvious?

[Johnny Five]

Tinder: Gemstone Edition

[iJin]

The hell do you do with the other half, save it for later? Give it to your dog?

[Gnome Rage]

Nothing happened to you and there were like 5 other people at the table. Stop being a fucking baby. Ignoring the fact that I didn't do anything that would make a reasonable person feel uncomfortable, you had a handful of people within arm's reach who would not have been shy to remove me from the situation if I did anything that would make a reasonable person feel uncomfortable.

After you left, the consensus I heard was that you're a weirdo.

I like your phrasing, though. I sat "directly next to you" out of half a dozen people at a round table. That's not an outrageous situation no matter how much you want to make it one.

You also seem to be implying that I just showed up to bother you. I'm not going to tell you how you felt, but I can tell you what you said, and you had no issue beforehand that you ever expressed. I called you because I had your number and you answered your phone. You can regret ever speaking to me, but please do not lie about the context.
My number that I never gave you? My number that you texted late one night and said you were going to harm me "to teach me a lesson about internet privacy"? My number that you harassed me via before we ever went to the meet up? How bout the fact that you whispered to me multiple times that night about if and how I was going to fuck Kellen? I'm sure everyone did think I was a weirdo, because I was extremely uncomfortable about being there. Kellen offered to go with me SPECIFICALLY because I had expressed to him how uncomfortable you've made me in the past, but I wanted to be part of the PC community, for whatever reason.

I really didn't want to go into detail because it doesn't matter what I say happened, I have no way of proving it and you will deny it or claim it was a "joke", just the same way you denied it when I expressed my concerns about your behavior previously.

So, there are you details everyone! Feel free to claim that I am lying, but I know what happened and how I felt that evening, and previous evenings when you harassed me via messenger and phone. I know that I contemplated calling the police based on your behavior and perhaps I should have. You made me feel unsafe, regardless of what you say was a joke, and what you say I misinterpreted, the bottom line is your behavior made someone worry about their and their family's safety. I have never shared my full name on PC, but you have used your internet prowess to let me know that you know my full name, and information about my personal life. You even mentioned in this very thread that you located and read my linkedin profile, which I have never publically posted or shared. Perhaps I should have been more careful about what I shared, but you went out of your way to find out personal information about me, whether it was easy to do, or not, you made the decision to not only look for the information, but try to use it to intimidate me.

[Johnny Five]

http://s3.amazonaws.com/rapgenius/1379638021_shit-just-got-real.jpg

[Ker_Thwap]

The hell do you do with the other half, save it for later? Give it to your dog?

I wandered off and lost interest. Had I been more attentive, I'd have tossed it in the fridge to use for a marinade.

[iJin]

Touché. I had a cousin that poured beer on her when she tanned outside. I'm not sure if that's a thing or not but she made it one.

[Bobmuhthol]

I'm about three lines into GR's response and it's already laughable. It's the same shit from years ago all over again. I'm trying to murder her, she is going to call the police because of my obviously criminal behavior, whatever. Get real.

[Gnome Rage]

Touché. I had a cousin that poured beer on her when she tanned outside. I'm not sure if that's a thing or not but she made it one.

google says it is a thing (http://www.ambergristoday.com/content/pic-week/2013/august/26/using-belikin-beer-get-perfect-tan-belize)

[iJin]

The only thing Alex ever murdered was my spirit when he was much better than me at Guitar Hero.

[Tgo01]

You're making 50 dollars an hour Bob while McDonald's workers are making 8; you are a criminal!

[Ker_Thwap]

Strangely enough, I can see both of these stories as being plausible. Someone help me out with a third theory. Points awarded for inclusion of ninjas, aliens and robots.

[Ker_Thwap]

You're making 50 dollars an hour Bob while McDonald's workers are making 8; you are a criminal!

Next thing you know he'll own two houses and Back will lose his mind.

[Gelston]

Strangely enough, I can see both of these stories as being plausible. Someone help me out with a third theory. Points awarded for inclusion of ninjas, aliens and robots.

They are all idiots. Also, ninjas, aliens and robots.

[Ker_Thwap]

They are all idiots. Also, ninjas, aliens and robots.

TLDR

[Tenlaar]

I found some things that GR "publicly shared" on my external the other day.

http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20121120034759/glee/images/5/5c/Creepy_7b66a0_1873569.gif

[tyrant-201]

I found some things that GR "publicly shared" on my external the other day.

http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20121120034759/glee/images/5/5c/Creepy_7b66a0_1873569.gif

my god that is creepy

[Parkbandit]

My number that I never gave you? My number that you texted late one night and said you were going to harm me "to teach me a lesson about internet privacy"? My number that you harassed me via before we ever went to the meet up? How bout the fact that you whispered to me multiple times that night about if and how I was going to fuck Kellen? I'm sure everyone did think I was a weirdo, because I was extremely uncomfortable about being there. Kellen offered to go with me SPECIFICALLY because I had expressed to him how uncomfortable you've made me in the past, but I wanted to be part of the PC community, for whatever reason.

I really didn't want to go into detail because it doesn't matter what I say happened, I have no way of proving it and you will deny it or claim it was a "joke", just the same way you denied it when I expressed my concerns about your behavior previously.

So, there are you details everyone! Feel free to claim that I am lying, but I know what happened and how I felt that evening, and previous evenings when you harassed me via messenger and phone. I know that I contemplated calling the police based on your behavior and perhaps I should have. You made me feel unsafe, regardless of what you say was a joke, and what you say I misinterpreted, the bottom line is your behavior made someone worry about their and their family's safety. I have never shared my full name on PC, but you have used your internet prowess to let me know that you know my full name, and information about my personal life. You even mentioned in this very thread that you located and read my linkedin profile, which I have never publically posted or shared. Perhaps I should have been more careful about what I shared, but you went out of your way to find out personal information about me, whether it was easy to do, or not, you made the decision to not only look for the information, but try to use it to intimidate me.

http://www.gifbin.com/bin/072010/1279099630_creepy-hand.gif

[Taernath]

http://i.imgur.com/J0yDn.jpg

[Cereal Killer]

Strangely enough, I can see both of these stories as being plausible. Someone help me out with a third theory. Points awarded for inclusion of ninjas, aliens and robots.

Disclaimer: All characters and events in this text -- even those based on real people -- are entirely fictional. All celebrity voices are impersonated ... poorly. The following program contains coarse language and due to its content it should not be viewed by anyone.

The PC was getting along very well. Actually, too well. The reputation was so full of the green color known as "Imaginary Internet Love" that the resident PC robot overlord known as Anticor recognized that it was in danger of overloading. For love is a powerful emotion, and when properly harnessed can provide power for many Internets, but its power comes at a high price of excess storage, and the hamsters that Anticor used to power the services and be receptacles for his love (retired Simutronics hamsters who had grown too old, but could only bring themselves to run in support of GS out of habit and malice) were growing fat and immobile as those who have no need for seeking out love are prone to do.

Normally he would send forth his Secret Weapon the ninja armed with a Warhammer made of Iorake to let the red reputation flow, but he had been forced to "ban" his weapon to appease the residents of the PC who didn't know any better. Fools who didn't understand that IW was their savior and martyr, a man who cried himself to fetal shaped puddle every night because he too wanted to be loved by the populace, but was socially engineered from the time he was smaller than a halfling's biggest, hairiest toe to incite rage in everyone he so much as glanced at.

So Anticor sent an emergency message to his Alien overlord, the clever horned demon known as Whatley the white nose. Whatley immediately sent back a plan that would turn the good relations of the PC residents against each other. They would isolate a segment of the PC that was geographically similar and bombard them with subliminal images that made them long for the comfort of each other. With the practiced ease of an ad wizard, the Bostonian PCers were bombarded with images and messages of drinking, laced intermittently with topless photos of the more pleasing to look at members, until the most desperate among them pushed furiously for a meet up at Boston and a chance at matching real life boobs to digital ones.

And thus the meetup was set in shifting stone; solid yet liquid. Doomed to happen, but at a date that would be pushed back and forward until it finally occurred. Still, in order to cause a true chasm that would split the PC between its established personalities, white knights, trolls, and popcorn eating, furiously masturbating "innocents", a conflict would need to form. The youngest members of the group were targeted, with the male being bombarded with a series of faked messages that implied that the female was excited to meet with him, including her real name and phone number. This caused the male to send a barrage of one-sided messages to the young woman, who was bewildered by both the sheer volume of the texts and the fact that he appeared to be carrying on conversations with himself.

The final step was mere days before the meeting was supposed to take place, the male received a final message that the young woman actually had no intentions of ever sleeping with him, and in fact enlisted his aid for the seduction of another member of the group, an older man in worse physical shape who wouldn't make as much money as he did. The plan worked, and the young man worked himself into a sleepless, molten fury that lasted for years, and in fact resurfaces to this day at the mere mention of the letters G and R, much like an STD he may have contracted under different circumstances.

And so the stage had been set. And mere days after the meeting, balance was returned to the Force.

[Tenlaar]

I'll wait for the reviews to see if that is worth reading.

[Warriorbird]

I don't think either are lying. Two different takes.

[Bobmuhthol]

I don't think either are lying. Two different takes.Let's just be clear that facts are facts. She might have felt that I was going to hurt her (she certainly didn't act like that when she had conversations with me), and she is free to make claims about her own thoughts all day errday, but making up events like me texting her late at night informing her that I'm gonna get my harm on isn't a matter of interpretation. That didn't happen.

I should make it abundantly clear that, again, a reasonable person would not have these thoughts given the situation. I can only say what I observed and how a reasonable person would behave. Reasonable people don't live in fear of me. Reasonable people who are afraid of other people do not seek them out. For as "afraid for her and her family's safety" this girl pretends to be or have been, a reasonable person in that state would have made much different decisions. To the best of my knowledge, I did nothing wrong, and the fact that nobody intervened on her behalf would tend to corroborate my account.

[Geijon Khyree]

Countdown to phone text images...1000, 999, 998, 997

[Gnome Rage]

It did happen.

You said you were going to rape me, in fact.


Countdown to phone text images...1000, 999, 998, 997

I wish I still had them, and the AIM logs that I originally saved of the conversations of me trying to understand why he was doing this.

[Some Rogue]

Let's just be clear that facts are facts. She might have felt that I was going to hurt her (she certainly didn't act like that when she had conversations with me), and she is free to make claims about her own thoughts all day errday, but making up events like me texting her late at night informing her that I'm gonna get my harm on isn't a matter of interpretation. That didn't happen.
"I did not have textual relations with that woman"

[Bobmuhthol]

It did happen.

You said you were going to rape me, in fact.This is a fucking joke at this point.

[Tei]

I don't think either are lying. Two different takes.

Don't know either of these two but since GR is an emotional wreck and scared of her own shadow I question her interpretation of the situation.

[Ker_Thwap]

I'll wait for the reviews to see if that is worth reading.

He threw in the phrase "furiously masterbating "innocents." So, I've got to give him the win over Gelston's version.

[Taernath]

Artist's interpretation of the events of that night:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yYEX9dV34I

[Gnome Rage]

This is a fucking joke at this point.

I, just like you, want this to go the fuck away. It was three years ago, I have tried to avoid any interaction with you since the meet up, you fueled this fire.

[Tisket]

It did happen.

You said you were going to rape me, in fact.



I wish I still had them, and the AIM logs that I originally saved of the conversations of me trying to understand why he was doing this.

I don't have words for someone as low and malevolent as yourself.

Fucking amazing.

[waywardgs]

Welcome to the PC! Here's your starter pack of restraining orders and rubbers! Enjoy your stay!

[Bobmuhthol]

I'll preemptively state, in the event any such bullshit "surfaces," that she doctored logs in the past and either posted them here or sent them to her friends directly. I forget which it was, but I produced unedited versions contradicting her at the time, so I would call into question anything that shows me saying "you gonna get raped."

Also it didn't happen.

[Gnome Rage]

I don't have words for someone as low and malevolent as yourself.

Fucking amazing.
Telling the truth then, and now.
I know you don't like me, as many people don't, but I'm not lying about what happened.

I never said he did anything to me physically. He never touched me. He just made threats and terrified me at the time.

[Tenlaar]

I produced "unedited" versions contradicting her at the time

You forgot your quotes.

[iJin]

This whole thread was already on fire, someone just brought marshmallows to it.

[Parkbandit]

Let's just be clear that facts are facts. She might have felt that I was going to hurt her (she certainly didn't act like that when she had conversations with me), and she is free to make claims about her own thoughts all day errday, but making up events like me texting her late at night informing her that I'm gonna get my harm on isn't a matter of interpretation. That didn't happen.

I should make it abundantly clear that, again, a reasonable person would not have these thoughts given the situation. I can only say what I observed and how a reasonable person would behave. Reasonable people don't live in fear of me. Reasonable people who are afraid of other people do not seek them out. For as "afraid for her and her family's safety" this girl pretends to be or have been, a reasonable person in that state would have made much different decisions. To the best of my knowledge, I did nothing wrong, and the fact that nobody intervened on her behalf would tend to corroborate my account.

If you're looking on the internet for information about a girl.. and get her number and call her when she didn't give you it... you're creepy as fuck.

[iJin]

I, just like you, want this to go the fuck away. It was three years ago, I have tried to avoid any interaction with you since the meet up, you fueled this fire.


You know ignoring is an option. Take some Xanax, works wonders.

[Bobmuhthol]

If you're looking on the internet for information about a girl.. and get her number and call her when she didn't give you it... you're creepy as fuck.Sure, absolutely. Someone doing that would be creepy. I didn't.

[Parkbandit]

Sure, absolutely. Someone doing that would be creepy. I didn't.

Well, she stated that she never gave you her number.. so how did you get it, along with the rest of her personal information?

And if memory serves.. didn't you email something to some relative of hers, basically tattling on her for posting a nude picture of herself on this forum?

[Tenlaar]

You know ignoring is an option. Take some Xanax, works wonders.

She can't, she had a dream where a xanax threatened to kill her kitten once so now she has panic attacks if she sees them.

[Warriorbird]

Let's just be clear that facts are facts. She might have felt that I was going to hurt her (she certainly didn't act like that when she had conversations with me), and she is free to make claims about her own thoughts all day errday, but making up events like me texting her late at night informing her that I'm gonna get my harm on isn't a matter of interpretation. That didn't happen.

I should make it abundantly clear that, again, a reasonable person would not have these thoughts given the situation. I can only say what I observed and how a reasonable person would behave. Reasonable people don't live in fear of me. Reasonable people who are afraid of other people do not seek them out. For as "afraid for her and her family's safety" this girl pretends to be or have been, a reasonable person in that state would have made much different decisions. To the best of my knowledge, I did nothing wrong, and the fact that nobody intervened on her behalf would tend to corroborate my account.

Yeah. To clarify, I meant the takes on what happened at said meetup only. I certainly don't see you either texting or making legit threats and I know that ground has been covered by you before.

[iJin]

Lmao

[JackWhisper]

I'm just saying, a bunch of people just met up in... Portland? Not two weeks ago, and nobody killed each other, everyone had fun, and Jeril probably violated three homeless bums on the way there and back.

I was not there because I was visiting people in the hospital. Maybe next time.

Continue with your east-coast-based-insanities!

[SHAFT]

Well, she stated that she never gave you her number.. so how did you get it, along with the rest of her personal information?

And if memory serves.. didn't you email something to some relative of hers, basically tattling on her for posting a nude picture of herself on this forum?

Good call PB, good call. Bob ruined it for all of us!!!

[JackWhisper]

Good call PB, good call. Bob ruined it for all of us!!!

Apparently so. I've never avidly perused the social thread of nudes. Wasn't aware we really had one.

What the FUCK!? :axe: I'm missing a crucial part of the perversity of PC culture!

[Bobmuhthol]

Well, she stated that she never gave you her number.. so how did you get it, along with the rest of her personal information?

And if memory serves.. didn't you email something to some relative of hers, basically tattling on her for posting a nude picture of herself on this forum?I don't remember how I got her phone number other than to say "from her." It was in 2012 I'm guessing. I don't have a ledger of how I get people's phone numbers, because again, the answer is pretty much always from that person.

No, your memory doesn't serve. I can't do anything to change that.

I was a junior in college when she first claimed that I was ruining her life. I was a graduate student when she willingly showed up at some pub about a mile away from me with the understanding that I would be there. That should tell you something.

[Taernath]

Apparently so. I've never avidly perused the social thread of nudes. Wasn't aware we really had one.

What the FUCK!? :axe: I'm missing a crucial part of the perversity of PC culture!

Most of them have been taken down by now.

Beerzombie has a few though.

Here's the link before you ask
http://www.beerzombie.com/boob/boob.aspx

[Parkbandit]

I don't remember how I got her phone number other than to say "from her." It was in 2012 I'm guessing. I don't have a ledger of how I get people's phone numbers, because again, the answer is pretty much always from that person.

No, your memory doesn't serve. I can't do anything to change that.

I was a junior in college when she first claimed that I was ruining her life. I was a graduate student when she willingly showed up at some pub about a mile away from me with the understanding that I would be there. That should tell you something.

Wait, wait, wait..... so that whole blowup on this forum about you emailing a relative of hers was her making it up again? Pretty sure you actually owned up to it and thought it was the right thing to do.

But we both agree that if you did creep her on the Internet for her personal information.. that's creepy as fuck.

[JackWhisper]

Wait, wait, wait..... so that whole blowup on this forum about you emailing a relative of hers was her making it up again? Pretty sure you actually owned up to it and thought it was the right thing to do.

But we both agree that if you did creep her on the Internet for her personal information.. that's creepy as fuck.

This sounds familiar PB....

[Bobmuhthol]

Wait, wait, wait..... so that whole blowup on this forum about you emailing a relative of hers was her making it up again? Pretty sure you actually owned up to it and thought it was the right thing to do.

But we both agree that if you did creep her on the Internet for her personal information.. that's creepy as fuck.If you can find it I'm pretty sure what you'd find is her saying it was *someone*, and people were outraged that they lost her sweet titties, and I took credit because I thought it was funny. As much as GR is remembering events very differently from how they actually occurred, I believe she will confirm that I didn't do that if asked.

Why would I openly admit it even if I did do it? I don't want to get too OJ here but it would do absolutely nothing to benefit me, and I have never been accused of having a poor sense of self preservation.

[Parkbandit]

If you can find it I'm pretty sure what you'd find is her saying it was *someone*, and people were outraged that they lost her sweet titties, and I took credit because I thought it was funny. As much as GR is remembering events very differently from how they actually occurred, I believe she will confirm that I didn't do that if asked.

So.. my memory is pretty spot on.


So, to summarize:

GR is mentally unstable.

Bob is creepier than even PK.

[Tgo01]

Actually I think Gnome Rage admitted it was not someone from the PC because I remember people asking her to just say who it was and then she said she was being vague because it wasn't actually someone from the PC.

Well...to be fair I guess she just said the person who told her dad wasn't someone from the PC so who knows who told her dad and who told that person.

I also remember shortly after this meetup in question that someone messaged me pretty much what Gnome Rage is saying; that Bob purposefully sat right next to her and was making whole thing uncomfortable for everyone with how creepy he was being. Then again this person wasn't there and was getting their information second hand as well so who knows. I wish I actually kept my private messages from back then because I would love to know who it was now, although I'm pretty sure it was one of three people...DUN DUN DUNNNNNNNN!

[Tgo01]

I also remember shortly after this meetup in question that someone messaged me pretty much what Gnome Rage is saying; that Bob purposefully sat right next to her and was making whole thing uncomfortable for everyone with how creepy he was being. Then again this person wasn't there and was getting their information second hand as well so who knows. I wish I actually kept my private messages from back then because I would love to know who it was now, although I'm pretty sure it was one of three people...DUN DUN DUNNNNNNNN!

lol

I actually did save these messages and it's from exactly whom I thought they were from.

Too funny. Too funny.

[JackWhisper]

If msconstrew chimes in on this, it will immediately become the most epic thread of the last few years.

[Liagala]

I was at this suddenly-infamous meetup and I don't recall any threats, inappropriate remarks, unhappy ladies, or anything else that would tell a reasonable person we had a problem. I will grant that I was 60% drunk and 90% oblivious, but I didn't see anything glaringly weird going on. Bob looked like Jesus, there's a picture floating around the PC somewhere of Msconstrew and I in a semi-compromising pose, and I had to pee so badly on the way home that I very seriously considered finding a quiet corner in a T-station somewhere because bathrooms didn't seem to exist. I remember Kellen sitting to my left and GR beyond him at the end of the (rectangular, not round) table, but I don't remember whether it was Bob or Briarfox on her other side (followed by Msconstrew and the other of Bob-or-Briar). There was no shouting and hair-pulling between the other two ladies about any possible sexual history with PK. There were no threats and/or creepy, overly-obvious attempts at seduction by Bob (there may or may not have been more subtle ones that I did not see). GR and Kellen did leave early for reasons I don't recall. From a reasonable, out-of-the-loop person's perspective, it looked like a bunch of people getting together for drinks and having a good time. Maybe GR felt more uncomfortable than the situation seemed to show because of Bob's (long and well-documented) history of stalking her on the PC. I don't know. Everyone acted like reasonably civilized adults from where I was sitting.

[Tgo01]

lol

I actually did save these messages and it's from exactly whom I thought they were from.

Too funny. Too funny.

lol x2

I just read more of these messages. Apparently what Bob said wasn't that Bob was going to rape her, but that another person was going to "fuck" her. Well, unless Bob said both. I dunno.

So, which was it? Who was raping whom at this gathering?!

[Parkbandit]

I was at this suddenly-infamous meetup and I don't recall any threats, inappropriate remarks, unhappy ladies, or anything else that would tell a reasonable person we had a problem. I will grant that I was 60% drunk and 90% oblivious, but I didn't see anything glaringly weird going on. Bob looked like Jesus, there's a picture floating around the PC somewhere of Msconstrew and I in a semi-compromising pose, and I had to pee so badly on the way home that I very seriously considered finding a quiet corner in a T-station somewhere because bathrooms didn't seem to exist. I remember Kellen sitting to my left and GR beyond him at the end of the (rectangular, not round) table, but I don't remember whether it was Bob or Briarfox on her other side (followed by Msconstrew and the other of Bob-or-Briar). There was no shouting and hair-pulling between the other two ladies about any possible sexual history with PK. There were no threats and/or creepy, overly-obvious attempts at seduction by Bob (there may or may not have been more subtle ones that I did not see). GR and Kellen did leave early for reasons I don't recall. From a reasonable, out-of-the-loop person's perspective, it looked like a bunch of people getting together for drinks and having a good time. Maybe GR felt more uncomfortable than the situation seemed to show because of Bob's (long and well-documented) history of stalking her on the PC. I don't know. Everyone acted like reasonably civilized adults from where I was sitting.

Was this the night you wrecked a home as well?

[Liagala]

Was this the night you wrecked a home as well?
Nope! That was a different gathering. Nachos, Nikki, Kellen (again!) and I at the homewrecking, shoe-vomiting one.

[JackWhisper]

Really?

That revelation is disturbing on many levels.

I'm also betting it added at least another twenty pages to this thread.

Ten down. Ten to go. We can do this people!

[Gnome Rage]

None if the threats occurred on the night of the meet up. I received them while in my dorm room in Connecticut during my sophomore year of college

[Taernath]

lol x2

I just read more of these messages. Apparently what Bob said wasn't that Bob was going to rape her, but that another person was going to "fuck" her. Well, unless Bob said both. I dunno.

So, which was it? Who was raping whom at this gathering?!

http://images.sodahead.com/polls/002186827/4418470799_Raping_Everybody_Guy_THEY_RAPING_EVERYB ODY_OUT_HERE_answer_4_xlarge.jpeg

[JackWhisper]

http://images.sodahead.com/polls/002186827/4418470799_Raping_Everybody_Guy_THEY_RAPING_EVERYB ODY_OUT_HERE_answer_4_xlarge.jpeg

Taernath sometimes you have really good ideas.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKsVSBhSwJg

Worth the youtube song because the ENTIRE THING applies to a different part of this hilarity.

[Whirlin]

PB called me on my number that I never gave him.

I said it, so it must be true.

[Celephais]

http://img.pandawhale.com/104582-Community-Troy-fire-screaming-LUDE.gif

Shit what happened in here ... as the aforementioned and reasonable person "Kellen" I have a great recollection of the evening in question. I was pretty drunk well before anyone arrived in Boston, having hosted a Kegs and Eggs party that morning. GR met up at my place which was a couple blocks down the street. I do remember her being displeased that Bob was texting her, and that it was strange that a man who buys his own clothes was reluctant to walk into a bar and meet people he's never met before.

The actual evening itself, I had a blast. There was this kick ass dog in the bar and keeping him at our booth was one of my top priorities (sometimes he'd go visit other tables and I found that unacceptable). We had shots and Guinness, it was a good time. We left early at GR's request, due to Bob, but I was pretty oblivious during the course of the evening ... he struck me as a bit socially awkward and unable to hide the fact he was into GR but that's not uncommon for people around Cambridge* and it didn't ruin the evening for me.


I was at this suddenly-infamous meetup and I don't recall any threats, inappropriate remarks, unhappy ladies, or anything else that would tell a reasonable person we had a problem. I will grant that I was 60% drunk and 90% oblivious, but I didn't see anything glaringly weird going on. Bob looked like Jesus, there's a picture floating around the PC somewhere of Msconstrew and I in a semi-compromising pose, and I had to pee so badly on the way home that I very seriously considered finding a quiet corner in a T-station somewhere because bathrooms didn't seem to exist. I remember Kellen sitting to my left and GR beyond him at the end of the (rectangular, not round) table, but I don't remember whether it was Bob or Briarfox on her other side (followed by Msconstrew and the other of Bob-or-Briar). There was no shouting and hair-pulling between the other two ladies about any possible sexual history with PK. There were no threats and/or creepy, overly-obvious attempts at seduction by Bob (there may or may not have been more subtle ones that I did not see). GR and Kellen did leave early for reasons I don't recall. From a reasonable, out-of-the-loop person's perspective, it looked like a bunch of people getting together for drinks and having a good time. Maybe GR felt more uncomfortable than the situation seemed to show because of Bob's (long and well-documented) history of stalking her on the PC. I don't know. Everyone acted like reasonably civilized adults from where I was sitting.

Sounds accurate to me.


Nope! That was a different gathering. Nachos, Nikki, Kellen (again!) and I at the homewrecking, shoe-vomiting one.
All these meet ups are great ... was that one at Courtside? The meet ups are all glorious trainwrecks, like this thread.

* No correction necessary.

[waywardgs]

Sounds like another meetup is really what everyone needs.

[JackWhisper]

This thread is losing teeth. We need more funny!

[Whirlin]

I'd probably be game for a Boston or Worchester meetup, depending on when.

[Thondalar]

This probably deserves a safe spot here.

Lol...I only delete posts I've made when they were posted while really drunk and I put out a lot of personal information involving other people that I really shouldn't have. Stuff like this I have no problems posting, or talking about.

[SHAFT]

I'd probably be game for a Boston or Worchester meetup, depending on when.

Don't do it whirlin! These people are all bat-shit crazy! You're one of the good ones. I can't see them corrupt your innocent soul.

[JackWhisper]

Don't do it whirlin! These people are all bat-shit crazy! You're one of the good ones. I can't see them corrupt your innocent soul.

Come on. West coast met up and Jeril was even there, and didn't roofie, or drug, or murder ANYONE. If that can happen, Whirlin can stand a little exposure to society!

[Whirlin]

I don't know how I feel about this change of thread topic...

[Liagala]

All these meet ups are great ... was that one at Courtside? The meet ups are all glorious trainwrecks, like this thread.
Maybe? All I remember was us starting there, going to 3-4 other places that wouldn't let us in because Nachos (the oldest among us) forgot his ID, and then ending up back there again.


I'd probably be game for a Boston or Worchester meetup, depending on when.
If someone reminds me to check the PC often enough to see when such an event were scheduled (if it happens), I'd go.

[Celephais]

Maybe? All I remember was us starting there, going to 3-4 other places that wouldn't let us in because Nachos (the oldest among us) forgot his ID, and then ending up back there again.


If someone reminds me to check the PC often enough to see when such an event were scheduled (if it happens), I'd go.
Just have Bob text you, he has your number.

[Bobmuhthol]

Jesus Christ, you're telling me I might see you people at Courtside? I'm there at least one day per week during the summer. (P.S. Kellen I've since joined WAKA so, uh, we might see each other...? Let's never speak of this thread.)

[Thondalar]

I'm going to try to be polite, and I'll probably fail.

On one hand, GR's situation dovetails neatly into some of my beliefs/observations. Bob and Anticor aren't wrong. This is what happens when you're handed shit, instead of learning to fix your shit at the base level. Some goofy, borderline learning disability with method of data retention, so she was allowed to function under her own set of rules regarding laptops/test time frames. This kind of clinging to an excuse for why one failed as a child, and shopping for a diagnosis doesn't do people any favors for the long run. Instead of playing to one's strengths, working harder, working smarter, overcoming one's flaws... today's society just hands people doctors notes saying little Timmy can't win this race, let him start the race early, so he appears to finish around the same time as the other kids. It's the whole everybody gets a trophy. Kids are handed false self esteem. Instead of earning, and being proud of an honest third place, everybody wins. This does them no favors.

On the other hand, GR is not an asshole, at least not to me, so I'm not really into the whole dog pile on her when she's down. She's finally taking some responsibility, trying to get healthy and trying to meet some personal goals. Rather than laugh at her mistakes, I'd rather just keep on giving my "take control of your own life" advice. Yeah, people laugh at the bootstrappy advice these days, but in the long run, it's proven to be a pretty effective and dare I say compassionate method of getting oneself right. You may not get first place in the race, but you'll have done your best and earned your place.



You must spread some reputation around before giving it to Ker_Thwap again

Exactly this. I'll probably catch some shit for this, but lick my dick...I feel the same way about PTSD. Is it real? Sure. Is it OMG MY LIFE IS OVER debilitating? No. Like ADD/ADHD and Autism Spectrum, there is a very good bit of validity to a lot of claims. Nobody had a clinical diagnosis for it when hundreds of thousands of troops came back home from WW1 and WW2...and that was real combat. Before I catch even MORE shit for that sentence, let me explain. I'm not saying troops don't see live combat anymore, I know better. The men and women coming home from Iraq and Afghanistan in a box or with limbs missing isn't fictional. HOWEVER...if you look at the sheer numbers...the millions deployed between WW1, WW2, Korea, Vietnam...PTSD wasn't a thing, and they didn't fight wars like we do now. WW1 was a shitstorm. You killed people with your bare hands. Has that happened in recent engagements? For certain...but it's rare. War just isn't like that anymore. Even up to Vietnam guys were dropped off in the middle of the jungle with guns that would regularly malfunction in the wet environment, no body armor, no laser-guided anything...fighting enemies that would sneak into camp in the middle of the night and kill everyone with knives. If anyone would have PTSD, it would be those guys...and they did, most of them. Some sucked it up and went on about their lives, some drowned themselves in a bottle every day.

This is hard for me to say, but as a Libertarian I'm used to taking the hard road, so fuck it. War today is a lot easier on the warriors than it was even 20 years ago.

Let me be clear. This IN NO WAY diminishes my support of the military, nor my support of the men and women who fight for this Country. In my estimation, they are the best of us. If anything, my beef is with the Government, not the People.

But that's a different can of worms.

Back to the original point...I feel like we, as a society, have "created" a lot of these psychological problems. We make such a huge deal about it that people are expected to have something wrong with them, so they do.

Much like crying rape when you're actually just a slut that got caught and is trying to save face, it diminishes legitimate claims.

Humm...this has been another drunken rant by Thondalar that got completely off-topic. The point is, Ker_Thwap is completely right. People DO hate the "bootstrappy" advice, because our society has become one where someone else is always at fault. Personal responsibility isn't taught in schools, it certainly isn't taught on TV or in Hollywood...its taught by parents. Some parents teach it, most don't, assuming they're even there. Humans are incredible creatures...even the dumbest among us is smarter than any other creature on the planet...but most of us don't use it. We've become a dependent society...whether its government hand-outs, or big Pharma, or media overload, or drugs, or whatever other crutch you have...a very small slice of our pie is made up of people who accept no excuses and succeed despite any hurdle.

There are three kinds of people in the world. Those who make things happen, those who watch things happen, and those who wonder what happened.

Which are you?


edit: happen, not happens

[Taernath]

Exactly this. I'll probably catch some shit for this, but lick my dick...I feel the same way about PTSD. Is it real? Sure. Is it OMG MY LIFE IS OVER debilitating? No. Like ADD/ADHD and Autism Spectrum, there is a very good bit of validity to a lot of claims. Nobody had a clinical diagnosis for it when hundreds of thousands of troops came back home from WW1 and WW2...and that was real combat. Before I catch even MORE shit for that sentence, let me explain. I'm not saying troops don't see live combat anymore, I know better. The men and women coming home from Iraq and Afghanistan in a box or with limbs missing isn't fictional. HOWEVER...if you look at the sheer numbers...the millions deployed between WW1, WW2, Korea, Vietnam...PTSD wasn't a thing, and they didn't fight wars like we do now. WW1 was a shitstorm. You killed people with your bare hands. Has that happened in recent engagements? For certain...but it's rare. War just isn't like that anymore. Even up to Vietnam guys were dropped off in the middle of the jungle with guns that would regularly malfunction in the wet environment, no body armor, no laser-guided anything...fighting enemies that would sneak into camp in the middle of the night and kill everyone with knives. If anyone would have PTSD, it would be those guys...and they did, most of them. Some sucked it up and went on about their lives, some drowned themselves in a bottle every day.

This is hard for me to say, but as a Libertarian I'm used to taking the hard road, so fuck it. War today is a lot easier on the warriors than it was even 20 years ago.

Let me be clear. This IN NO WAY diminishes my support of the military, nor my support of the men and women who fight for this Country. In my estimation, they are the best of us. If anything, my beef is with the Government, not the People.

But that's a different can of worms.

Back to the original point...I feel like we, as a society, have "created" a lot of these psychological problems. We make such a huge deal about it that people are expected to have something wrong with them, so they do.

Much like crying rape when you're actually just a slut that got caught and is trying to save face, it diminishes legitimate claims.

Humm...this has been another drunken rant by Thondalar that got completely off-topic. The point is, Ker_Thwap is completely right. People DO hate the "bootstrappy" advice, because our society has become one where someone else is always at fault. Personal responsibility isn't taught in schools, it certainly isn't taught on TV or in Hollywood...its taught by parents. Some parents teach it, most don't, assuming they're even there. Humans are incredible creatures...even the dumbest among us is smarter than any other creature on the planet...but most of us don't use it. We've become a dependent society...whether its government hand-outs, or big Pharma, or media overload, or drugs, or whatever other crutch you have...a very small slice of our pie is made up of people who accept no excuses and succeed despite any hurdle.

There are three kinds of people in the world. Those who make things happen, those who watch things happens, and those who wonder what happened.

Which are you?

That has got to be one of the most ignorant rants on PTSD I've ever seen. Quoted for posterity.

[Thondalar]

That has got to be one of the most ignorant rants on PTSD I've ever seen. Quoted for posterity.

Feel free to make a logical response.

[Tgo01]

Exactly this. I'll probably catch some shit for this, but lick my dick...I feel the same way about PTSD. Is it real? Sure. Is it OMG MY LIFE IS OVER debilitating? No. Like ADD/ADHD and Autism Spectrum, there is a very good bit of validity to a lot of claims. Nobody had a clinical diagnosis for it when hundreds of thousands of troops came back home from WW1 and WW2...and that was real combat. Before I catch even MORE shit for that sentence, let me explain. I'm not saying troops don't see live combat anymore, I know better. The men and women coming home from Iraq and Afghanistan in a box or with limbs missing isn't fictional. HOWEVER...if you look at the sheer numbers...the millions deployed between WW1, WW2, Korea, Vietnam...PTSD wasn't a thing, and they didn't fight wars like we do now. WW1 was a shitstorm. You killed people with your bare hands. Has that happened in recent engagements? For certain...but it's rare. War just isn't like that anymore. Even up to Vietnam guys were dropped off in the middle of the jungle with guns that would regularly malfunction in the wet environment, no body armor, no laser-guided anything...fighting enemies that would sneak into camp in the middle of the night and kill everyone with knives. If anyone would have PTSD, it would be those guys...and they did, most of them. Some sucked it up and went on about their lives, some drowned themselves in a bottle every day.

This is hard for me to say, but as a Libertarian I'm used to taking the hard road, so fuck it. War today is a lot easier on the warriors than it was even 20 years ago.

Let me be clear. This IN NO WAY diminishes my support of the military, nor my support of the men and women who fight for this Country. In my estimation, they are the best of us. If anything, my beef is with the Government, not the People.

What the hell are you talking about? Troops didn't suffer from PTSD during WW1 and WW2? They most certainly did, but it had a different name back then, terms like "shell shock" and "battle fatigue."

Also you're damn right Vietnam vets suffer from PTSD, in fact that war is where the term "PTSD" is best known for.

You do realize a common symptom of PTSD is "sucking it up" and insisting you don't have PTSD, right?

[Thondalar]

What the hell are you talking about? Troops didn't suffer from PTSD during WW1 and WW2? They most certainly did, but it had a different name back then, terms like "shell shock" and "battle fatigue."

I never said they didn't have it. If anything, I said they had it the most. What I said was, nobody back then got "treatment" for it.


Also you're damn right Vietnam vets suffered from PTSD, in fact that war is where the term "PTSD" is best known for.

You do realize a common symptom of PTSD is "sucking it up" and insisting you don't have PTSD, right?

Fully aware. Notice the part where I said "Some sucked it up and went on about their lives, some drowned themselves in a bottle every day"

Quit being immediately defensive, read what I actually wrote, and understand what I'm trying to say.

[JackWhisper]

...fighting enemies that would sneak into camp in the middle of the night and kill everyone with knives.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbLyWfwczbQ

[Warriorbird]

Exactly this. I'll probably catch some shit for this, but lick my dick...I feel the same way about PTSD. Is it real? Sure. Is it OMG MY LIFE IS OVER debilitating? No. Like ADD/ADHD and Autism Spectrum, there is a very good bit of validity to a lot of claims. Nobody had a clinical diagnosis for it when hundreds of thousands of troops came back home from WW1 and WW2...and that was real combat. Before I catch even MORE shit for that sentence, let me explain. I'm not saying troops don't see live combat anymore, I know better. The men and women coming home from Iraq and Afghanistan in a box or with limbs missing isn't fictional. HOWEVER...if you look at the sheer numbers...the millions deployed between WW1, WW2, Korea, Vietnam...PTSD wasn't a thing, and they didn't fight wars like we do now. WW1 was a shitstorm. You killed people with your bare hands. Has that happened in recent engagements? For certain...but it's rare. War just isn't like that anymore. Even up to Vietnam guys were dropped off in the middle of the jungle with guns that would regularly malfunction in the wet environment, no body armor, no laser-guided anything...fighting enemies that would sneak into camp in the middle of the night and kill everyone with knives. If anyone would have PTSD, it would be those guys...and they did, most of them. Some sucked it up and went on about their lives, some drowned themselves in a bottle every day.

This is hard for me to say, but as a Libertarian I'm used to taking the hard road, so fuck it. War today is a lot easier on the warriors than it was even 20 years ago.

Let me be clear. This IN NO WAY diminishes my support of the military, nor my support of the men and women who fight for this Country. In my estimation, they are the best of us. If anything, my beef is with the Government, not the People.

But that's a different can of worms.

Back to the original point...I feel like we, as a society, have "created" a lot of these psychological problems. We make such a huge deal about it that people are expected to have something wrong with them, so they do.

Much like crying rape when you're actually just a slut that got caught and is trying to save face, it diminishes legitimate claims.

Humm...this has been another drunken rant by Thondalar that got completely off-topic. The point is, Ker_Thwap is completely right. People DO hate the "bootstrappy" advice, because our society has become one where someone else is always at fault. Personal responsibility isn't taught in schools, it certainly isn't taught on TV or in Hollywood...its taught by parents. Some parents teach it, most don't, assuming they're even there. Humans are incredible creatures...even the dumbest among us is smarter than any other creature on the planet...but most of us don't use it. We've become a dependent society...whether its government hand-outs, or big Pharma, or media overload, or drugs, or whatever other crutch you have...a very small slice of our pie is made up of people who accept no excuses and succeed despite any hurdle.

There are three kinds of people in the world. Those who make things happen, those who watch things happen, and those who wonder what happened.

Which are you?


edit: happen, not happens

Eh. Are there psychological errors and issues? Certainly. The whole drug scheme that Latrin lauds appears to be a mess.

http://io9.com/the-most-popular-antidepressants-are-based-on-a-theory-1686163236

ADD/ADHD seems the most "created" of modern psychological issues, though, in spite of that.

Simultaneously, the modern suicide rate of former soldiers alone suggests to me that PTSD is nowhere near as simple a matter as "just man/woman up."

[Thondalar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbLyWfwczbQ

Way to make light of it.

[waywardgs]

You do realize a common symptom of PTSD is "sucking it up" and insisting you don't have PTSD, right?

Until they shoot themselves. Or other people.

[Thondalar]

Eh. Are there psychological errors and issues? Certainly. The whole drug scheme that Latrin lauds appears to be a mess.

http://io9.com/the-most-popular-antidepressants-are-based-on-a-theory-1686163236

ADD/ADHD seems the most "created" of modern psychological issues, though, in spite of that.

Simultaneously, the modern suicide rate of former soldiers alone suggests to me that PTSD is nowhere near as simple a matter as "just man/woman up."


Someone gets it. Sort of. I look at the modern suicide rate as backing up exactly what I was saying...we've created a monster.

[waywardgs]

Someone gets it. Sort of. I look at the modern suicide rate as backing up exactly what I was saying...we've created a monster.

So they're shooting themselves because they're pussies?

[Tenlaar]

So they're shooting themselves because they're pussies?

No no no. They're shooting themselves because somebody told them that they're pussies.

[JackWhisper]

Way to make light of it.

Hey, you have to be able to not be so serious. I've got 3 members of my family still alive with PTSD, including my brother. Humor is one of the few things that gets through to him.

7341

[Tgo01]

I never said they didn't have it. If anything, I said they had it the most. What I said was, nobody back then got "treatment" for it.

I don't know about "nobody" but you're right, far fewer people got treatment for it because the idea of seeking help for mental health has had a historical stigma in this society, even today but it's a lot better now. Heck it was just a couple of months ago I was at a hospital and this guy asked me where the heart clinic was and I told him where it was and he replied the signs said that was mental health and I said they are remodeling the mental health ward so they moved the heart clinic there temporarily and he replied "Oh okay, I was afraid to walk in there because I thought everyone would think I was crazy." Shit like that isn't all that uncommon these days, imagine how much worse it was 80 years ago.


Fully aware. Notice the part where I said "Some sucked it up and went on about their lives, some drowned themselves in a bottle every day"

Quit being immediately defensive, read what I actually wrote, and understand what I'm trying to say.

I read everything you wrote and I'm not sure how you think you've proven anything I have said in response wrong.

[JackWhisper]

Way to make light of it.

Plus that movie is AWESOME!

[Taernath]

Feel free to make a logical response.

"PTSD isn't a big deal, man up" isn't deserving of a logical response.

[Thondalar]

So they're shooting themselves because they're pussies?

Detach yourself for a moment. Remove all emotional attachment. Look at it logically.

By anyone's estimation, by any measure or reasoning you can come up with, WW1, WW2, Korea, and Vietnam involved more short-range combat than any war or engagement since. More traumatic events for a larger percentage of troops. We deployed more people, so even if you assume the actual combat was exactly the same (which we know it wasn't, but even if), you're still talking about a much larger volume of troops. So why are suicide rates higher now?

[JackWhisper]

Wait a minute. GOD DAMMIT! THIS CAN'T DERAIL! THIS IS ABOUT PEOPLE STALKING GR AND SHIT LIKE THAT!

WE DEMAND BACK ONTOPIC!

[Thondalar]

"PTSD isn't a big deal, man up" isn't deserving of a logical response.

If that was at all what I said, you would be right.

[Warriorbird]

Plus that movie is AWESOME!

People don't get it till they see it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQgQqSVzuY8

It's a movie that Rob Schneider is actually funny in.

[Thondalar]

I don't know about "nobody" but you're right, far fewer people got treatment for it because the idea of seeking help for mental health has had a historical stigma in this society, even today but it's a lot better now. Heck it was just a couple of months ago I was at a hospital and this guy asked me where the heart clinic was and I told him where it was and he replied the signs said that was mental health and I said they are remodeling the mental health ward so they moved the heart clinic there temporarily and he replied "Oh okay, I was afraid to walk in there because I thought everyone would think I was crazy." Shit like that isn't all that uncommon these days, imagine how much worse it was 80 years ago.

It didn't really exist 80 years ago. Kinda my point.



I read everything you wrote and I'm not sure how you think you've proven anything I have said in response wrong.

That is your main problem. You think I'm trying to prove you wrong.

[Celephais]

So they're shooting themselves because they're pussies?
They're shooting themselves because they can't cut themselves ... because they don't have knives.

[Wrathbringer]

STOP POSTING i'M TRYING TO CATCH UP

[JackWhisper]

They're shooting themselves because they can't cut themselves ... because they don't have knives.

Okay *THAT* was funny.

[waywardgs]

Detach yourself for a moment. Remove all emotional attachment. Look at it logically.

By anyone's estimation, by any measure or reasoning you can come up with, WW1, WW2, Korea, and Vietnam involved more short-range combat than any war or engagement since. More traumatic events for a larger percentage of troops. We deployed more people, so even if you assume the actual combat was exactly the same (which we know it wasn't, but even if), you're still talking about a much larger volume of troops. So why are suicide rates higher now?

I think it has a lot to do with the veracity of the war and the substance of the support troops get upon returning home. (not necessarily mental or government support- societal support.) I think vietnam saw a huge fallout in terms of substance abuse, homelessness, etc. WW2 was considered a "just" war by just about the whole country, they were received as heroes, immediately started families in a country hungry for it's menfolk to return... Not so much vietnam, or korea, and iraq? The country barely noticed we were even IN that war, let alone gave a shit about the returning vets. So yeah, I'm not sure all wars are created equal, nor are the responses, and neither is how a soldier reacts afterwards.

[Tgo01]

It didn't really exist 80 years ago. Kinda my point.

You just gave me shit for saying you didn't say that. What exactly do you mean by "it didn't 'really' exist 80 years ago." Like, it literally didn't exist or it was just rare? Please clarify so I know how to respond.


That is your main problem. You think I'm trying to prove you wrong.

You are. You said I didn't read what you said and therefore don't understand your point. You're actually correct; I don't understand your point because you don't seem to have one.

[JackWhisper]

People don't get it till they see it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQgQqSVzuY8

It's a movie that Rob Schneider is actually funny in.

WarriorBird found guilty of Moto-Surfing. Board confiscated.

[Wrathbringer]

okay, wow, I had to catch up from my original post pwning bob this morning. I was going to multiquote the best posts here, but I was multiquoting nearly every post. Suffice to say,

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

...and then Thondolar crashed the party with the lamest kill buzz ptsd rant I've ever had the misfortune to skim for a second before dismissing due to retardacy.

All in all, it's a win for me.

[Warriorbird]

WarriorBird found guilty of Moto-Surfing. Board confiscated.

Noo!

https://31.media.tumblr.com/8d25559f0d55972baecdf7b1f366da3d/tumblr_mj8bebSkju1qexexlo1_400.gif

[Thondalar]

I think it has a lot to do with the veracity of the war and the substance of the support troops get upon returning home. (not necessarily mental or government support- societal support.) I think vietnam saw a huge fallout in terms of substance abuse, homelessness, etc. WW2 was considered a "just" war by just about the whole country, they were received as heroes, immediately started families in a country hungry for it's menfolk to return... Not so much vietnam, or korea, and iraq? The country barely noticed we were even IN that war, let alone gave a shit about the returning vets. So yeah, I'm not sure all wars are created equal, nor are the responses, and neither is how a soldier reacts afterwards.

Exactly. Even more to my point. Troops coming home now-days get support on the level of ww2, troops coming home from Vietnam had feces thrown at them. All factors combined, I think Vietnam was probably the worst for the troops...not only because of what they went through over there, but because of how they were received.

WW1 and WW2 I think more troops saw more shit. Not saying some wars don't have shit, I'm saying there was a larger volume of troops seeing/going through shit. A fair bit of that was probably mitigated to some degree by the fact that they came home heroes...personally, I think I could find a way to justify the horrific shit I did and/or saw if I was positively reinforced by society as a whole upon my return. I would certainly still have nightmares, and have problems adjusting to civilian life, but it would do some measure to ameliorate my overall depression. This totally falls in line with what I was saying.

[Thondalar]

okay, wow, I had to catch up from my original post pwning bob this morning. I was going to multiquote the best posts here, but I was multiquoting nearly every post. Suffice to say,

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

...and then Thondolar crashed the party with the lamest kill buzz ptsd rant I've ever had the misfortune to skim for a second before dismissing due to retardacy.

All in all, it's a win for me.

I thought we were better than that.

[Thondalar]

You just gave me shit for saying you didn't say that. What exactly do you mean by "it didn't 'really' exist 80 years ago." Like, it literally didn't exist or it was just rare? Please clarify so I know how to respond.

Jesus, man...look at the line I quoted. TREATMENT for it, psychological classification for it, didn't exist 80 years ago.


You are. You said I didn't read what you said and therefore don't understand your point. You're actually correct; I don't understand your point because you don't seem to have one.

No, I never said you didn't read what I said. I said you didn't understand what I said.

[tyrant-201]

I think a more logical explanation, is that when you're taught that non-aggression is the answer, and then the same system turns around and asks you to kill people, it fucks people up in the head.

PTSD does not make someone weak. It is a perfectly human thing, to reflect on what you've done, good or bad.

How we got to this discussion, though, is beyond me. Can we get back to GR and Bob?

[Tgo01]

Jesus, man...look at the line I quoted. TREATMENT for it, psychological classification for it, didn't exist 80 years ago.

Yes and like I said that's because of the stigma associated with mental health treatment back then. You're acting as if the lack of treatment back then proves something today. There is no comparison because things other than PTSD have changed.


No, I never said you didn't read what I said. I said you didn't understand what I said.


read what I actually wrote, and understand what I'm trying to say.

I understand you perfectly:

Treatments/diagnoses for PTSD were rare in past wars.
Most Vietnam vets "sucked it up" when it came to their PTSD.
War is somehow easier/different/"less shit filled" today than it was years ago therefore most people whining about having PTSD from current wars are faking it or doctors are eager to over diagnose because reasons.

That about sum it up?

[Tisket]

What the fuck happened here? Its officially a train wreck now. I'm just here to marvel.

[Thondalar]

I prefaced this with saying I knew I'd catch some shit, because you people are always looking for something to take out of context and ignore the greater point for your own gratification. Perhaps if I break it down real simple-like...

1) I never said PTSD wasn't a thing, or that people who have it need to "suck it up and deal", or anything of that nature.

2) It most certainly IS a thing, and there are accounts of it going back to BC times. Anyone who took Psych 101 should have at least a basic grasp of how really fragile our psyche can be. The vast majority of us never experience such psychologically traumatic events in our lives, and we therefore don't really understand it...but I think all of us can grasp the concept, at least.

3) I said, like ADD/ADHD and "Autism Spectrum", I think a fair amount of it is created. Made up. In this modern, "enlightened" society, we've made crutches normal, so everyone feels like they need one.

[Tgo01]

What the fuck happened here? Its officially a train wreck now. I'm just here to marvel.

Thondalar replied to something from page 13 when we were giving GR shit before Bob popped in, thus bringing us back to our prior off track topic.

Thanks a lot, Thondalar!

[Tgo01]

3) I said, like ADD/ADHD and "Autism Spectrum", I think a fair amount of it is created. Made up. In this modern, "enlightened" society, we've made crutches normal, so everyone feels like they need one.


War is somehow easier/different/"less shit filled" today than it was years ago therefore most people whining about having PTSD from current wars are faking it or doctors are eager to over diagnose because reasons.

And you claimed I didn't understand you. I demand an apology!

[waywardgs]

Pk needs to chime in.

[Liagala]

Wait a minute. GOD DAMMIT! THIS CAN'T DERAIL! THIS IS ABOUT PEOPLE STALKING GR AND SHIT LIKE THAT!

WE DEMAND BACK ONTOPIC!
:yeahthat:

[Thondalar]

Yes and like I said that's because of the stigma associated with mental health treatment back then. You're acting as if the lack of treatment back then proves something today. There is no comparison because things other than PTSD have changed.

The "stigma" attached would have kept many from seeking treatment even if it was available, I'm saying that pre-1980 or so it wasn't even available period.


I understand you perfectly:

Treatments/diagnoses for PTSD were rare in past wars.
Most Vietnam vets "sucked it up" when it came to their PTSD.
War is somehow easier/different/"less shit filled" today than it was years ago therefore most people whining about having PTSD from current wars are faking it or doctors are eager to over diagnose because reasons.

That about sum it up?

Treatment/diagnosis was pretty much non-existent...most WW1, WW2, Korea, Vietnam vets "sucked it up" when it came to their PTSD, because they had no other option. (just a fact)

This translated in to a LOT of other issues, mainly self-medicating with drugs/alcohol. I never once said it was an optimal solution, I was simply stating historical fact.

War today IS easier/different/"less shit filled" for most involved. If you would like to argue that particular point on its own merits, I'm game.

But no, it doesn't "sum it up". The part you're missing is where I said that, like other "psychological disabilities" of our time, society basically dictates that something has to be wrong with you. Everyone has shit happen in their lives. What is the difference between people who accept it and move on, and people who let it control them?

[Thondalar]

Thondalar replied to something from page 13 when we were giving GR shit before Bob popped in, thus bringing us back to our prior off track topic.

Thanks a lot, Thondalar!

Someone fucked up and posi-repped me for one of my posts on page 13 when I was giving GR some goddamned good advice for life...sorry I've been off the boards for 3 days and this thread blew the fuck up from 13 pages to 36....I just logged in and looked at the rep and caught back up on the thread back then and saw something and responded and HOLY SHIT THIS IS WHERE WE ARE.

[Whirlin]

3) I said, like ADD/ADHD and "Autism Spectrum", I think a fair amount of it is created. Made up. In this modern, "enlightened" society, we've made crutches normal, so everyone feels like they need one.

We, as humans, require labels to start to gather data about something existing. If we don't have words or phrases to describe something, there's no way of classifying like characteristics to accumulate data and extrapolate recent anomalies versus constants. I think you're hard pressed to find historical figures of ADD/ADHD to substantiate your claim that it's inflated nowadays. Now we have a way of labeling it that we previously did not.

Additionally, to correct you, ADHD was first proposed in 1798 by Sir Alexander Crichton, a Scottish-born doctor, studied what he called “mental restlessness” in children that every schoolteacher must have seen. Based on the first google response hit for ADHD history.

[Tenlaar]

I'm reporting all you fuckers for derailing another potential meltdown.

[iJin]

Can everyone shut the fuck up about ptsd, I have to deal with it enough at home I don't want it fucking here!!!


/rant

[Thondalar]

We, as humans, require labels to start to gather data about something existing. If we don't have words or phrases to describe something, there's no way of classifying like characteristics to accumulate data and extrapolate recent anomalies versus constants. I think you're hard pressed to find historical figures of ADD/ADHD to substantiate your claim that it's inflated nowadays. Now we have a way of labeling it that we previously did not.

Additionally, to correct you, ADHD was first proposed in 1798 by Sir Alexander Crichton, a Scottish-born doctor, studied what he called “mental restlessness” in children that every schoolteacher must have seen. Based on the first google response hit for ADHD history.


You, also, are missing the point. I never once said it wasn't a thing. I've never said any of these conditions aren't a thing. There are legitimate claims. HOWEVER...bringing it to prominence means there will be fakers. It is human nature. We're all Hypochondriacs on some level because none of us wants to die.

[Tgo01]

But no, it doesn't "sum it up". The part you're missing is where I said that, like other "psychological disabilities" of our time, society basically dictates that something has to be wrong with you. Everyone has shit happen in their lives. What is the difference between people who accept it and move on, and people who let it control them?

I...don't know what you're getting at anymore.

You accept there was no treatment for PTSD back in the day so what exactly are you basing this assumption on that a lot of PTSD cases are "made up"? What you comparing this to? Other psychological disability treatments? And the fact that you put psychological disabilities in quotes just proves that there is still a stigma associated with seeking help for mental health issues.

[iJin]

Wrong, I want to die because of the level of fail in this thread now.

[JackWhisper]

:yeahthat:

:yeahthat:

[Thondalar]

At this point I would like to say that I said PTSD is a real thing immediately after bringing it up. Like, very next sentence.

[Ker_Thwap]

What the fuck happened here? Its officially a train wreck now. I'm just here to marvel.

My work is done here.

[Tgo01]

You, also, are missing the point. I never once said it wasn't a thing. I've never said any of these conditions aren't a thing. There are legitimate claims. HOWEVER...bringing it to prominence means there will be fakers.

Of course there are fakers, there are also people who fake broken legs.

[Thondalar]

Wrong, I want to die because of the level of fail in this thread now.

You have full control over that. Feeling froggy, jump.

[Thondalar]

My work is done here.

Oh hell no, you can't claim responsibility for this. This was 100% drunken Thondalar at his best. Fuck off.

[Whirlin]

So... should I go to a MA meetup?

[Thondalar]

So... should I go to a MA meetup?

No, come to an FL meetup, I'll buy you a few rounds just because.

[JackWhisper]

So... should I go to a MA meetup?

TGO is hosting it, but you're the only one there.

The hall is at capacity.
Capacity: 50 accounts.

[Thondalar]

Hell, come to my restaurant and get a porterhouse and a lobster tail.

[Ker_Thwap]

So... should I go to a MA meetup?

I'm in, if someone organized wants to do that organization stuff.

[iJin]

You have full control over that. Feeling froggy, jump.


Okay Malibu's Most Wanted. That line only makes sense if someone is fighting...or jumping off a cliff. Neither of which I'll do cause I'm too classy for that shit. I'll go guns blazing.

[Whirlin]

TGO is hosting it, but you're the only one there.

The hall is at capacity.
Capacity: 50 accounts.
Amazing

[JackWhisper]

Okay Malibu's Most Wanted. That line only makes sense if someone is fighting...or jumping off a cliff. Neither of which I'll do cause I'm too classy for that shit. I'll go guns blazing.

O SNAP THOND! WATCH OUT!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpuexiPFgnY

[Thondalar]

Okay Malibu's Most Wanted. That line only makes sense if someone is fighting...or jumping off a cliff. Neither of which I'll do cause I'm too classy for that shit. I'll go guns blazing.

Not sure what that is, I'm guessing a movie?

If it was used there, I can tell you for certain that that phrase has been used for quite a while, and yeah, it generally means "if you wanna fight, lets do it"...but hey, jumping is a great way to suicide, imo...get one last wild ride before you go out.

Personally I hate the feeling of falling, so that wouldn't be me, but...to each his own.

[SHAFT]

Wait a minute. GOD DAMMIT! THIS CAN'T DERAIL! THIS IS ABOUT PEOPLE STALKING GR AND SHIT LIKE THAT!

WE DEMAND BACK ONTOPIC!

Jack has the right of it. I want more on Bob being a stalker.

[iJin]

O SNAP THOND! WATCH OUT!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpuexiPFgnY

Omfg lmao

[Thondalar]

O SNAP THOND! WATCH OUT!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpuexiPFgnY

I would put holes in that guy if he slapped my kid like that.

I wouldn't do it all dumb shit like, though, run up in his house and shoot him...I'd go over to his house and be like "hey man, my kid told me what you did, and I just wanted to come shake your hand...he was being a little dick, and you set him straight...hey, while we're chatting, I got a barbecue coming up in a few days, you wanna come over and hang out?"...I'd wait for him to come over, and as soon as he walked in to my house I'd put 2 in him. Cops show up I'd just say I was scared for my life. Yay, Florida.

[Thondalar]

Speaking of holes, I need to post my new toy in that gun thread. Where the hell did that go, haven't seen anyone post in it in a while. I picked up my new concealer yesterday...one sec.

[Tgo01]

Jack has the right of it. I want more on Bob being a stalker.

Apparently after GR left the gathering, Bob told everyone about how pk took advantage of her and fucked her and recorded it.

Just the rumors I've heard.

[Ker_Thwap]

I would put holes in that guy if he slapped my kid like that.

I wouldn't do it all dumb shit like, though, run up in his house and shoot him...I'd go over to his house and be like "hey man, my kid told me what you did, and I just wanted to come shake your hand...he was being a little dick, and you set him straight...hey, while we're chatting, I got a barbecue coming up in a few days, you wanna come over and hang out?"...I'd wait for him to come over, and as soon as he walked in to my house I'd put 2 in him. Cops show up I'd just say I was scared for my life. Yay, Florida.

Yeah... the point of that comedic skit was in it's hyperbole. You have really weird fantasies.

[JackWhisper]

Yeah... the point of that comedic skit was in it's hyperbole. You have really weird fantasies.

REALLY weird fantasies.

[Ker_Thwap]

Apparently after GR left the gathering, Bob told everyone about how pk took advantage of her and fucked her and recorded it.

Just the rumors I've heard.

I heard it was a three way, in public, with a midget, singing show tunes. Maybe.

[SHAFT]

Sorry I said anything. And I'm out.

[JackWhisper]

Sorry I said anything. And I'm out.

OH HELLLL NO! You can't just bow out! This aint over! There's at LEAST 15 more pages of gold to be mined here.

[Tgo01]

I heard it was a three way, in public, with a midget, singing show tunes. Maybe.

The midget I can understand but show tunes? What a bunch of freaks.

[JackWhisper]

Sorry I said anything. And I'm out.

Shaft has PTSD.
Post
Tramautic
Subject
Disorder

He can't handle where this subject is going! Someone give him some Adderall!

[Bobmuhthol]

Jack has the right of it. I want more on Bob being a stalker.Good luck finding anything.

I almost feel bad about all this, and I've considered expressing that to GR, but then I remember how we got here. It's frustrating now and it was frustrating then not knowing what wacky shit she'll do next.

Despite what she'll tell you, we communicated (mostly IMs) enough and with enough sincerity at the time that I believed we were on good terms. She would start conversations with me. But then a week later I'd have someone asking me why she came to them saying I'm harassing her.

I forget when the night in question was. I'm assuming late summer but I honestly don't know. In the weeks prior, though, I assure you that GR and I had at least one conversation on the topic of how much friendlier we had become. She shared personal details of her life with me. And then she turned around and said I was stalking her and that she never wanted to hear from me, but I just wouldn't quit. I never got an explanation, so I had to reach the conclusion I described earlier: girl's got issues. I don't really dig being a target, and in that respect, don't feel so bad after all. She's not my victim.

[Tgo01]

Good luck finding anything.

I almost feel bad about all this, and I've considered expressing that to GR, but then I remember how we got here. It's frustrating now and it was frustrating then not knowing what wacky shit she'll do next.

Despite what she'll tell you, we communicated (mostly IMs) enough and with enough sincerity at the time that I believed we were on good terms. She would start conversations with me. But then a week later I'd have someone asking me why she came to them saying I'm harassing her.

I forget when the night in question was. I'm assuming late summer but I honestly don't know. In the weeks prior, though, I assure you that GR and I had at least one conversation on the topic of how much friendlier we had become. She shared personal details of her life with me. And then she turned around and said I was stalking her and that she never wanted to hear from me, but I just wouldn't quit. I never got an explanation, so I had to reach the conclusion I described earlier: girl's got issues. I don't really dig being a target, and in that respect, don't feel so bad after all. She's not my victim.

So you didn't tell everyone after the meeting that pk and GR had sex?

[SHAFT]

Shaft has PTSD.
Post
Tramautic
Subject
Disorder

He can't handle where this subject is going! Someone give him some Adderall!

I'm a big softie. After a while you start to feel bad for the people involved. Have at it.

[JackWhisper]

She's not my victim.


So you're saying you have other victims?!


LOL just fucking with you.

[Thondalar]

ok, well, apparently...removing firearms from the safe in my current condition is FROWNED UPON BY THIS ESTABLISHMENT (my wife)...I'll post some pics tomorrow.

Long story short, I picked up a Smith and Wesson Shield (in .40 Smith and Wesson, of course) a few days ago...fucker is tiny, but with the 7-round mag it actually has a pretty good grip. 6-round mag I can only get like 3 fingers on and it feels kinda weird...but it is a lot smaller than my 23 and still gets the job done...easier to carry. I put a few rounds through it yesterday and it worked like a charm...stock sights aren't bad for what you intend to use it for, self-defense, so I figure 30' or so tops, it shot really well. The magazines are tight as shit, though...I'm a pretty stout dude and I could only load them to 1 short of max...even used my shirt to get a grip and couldn't squeeze that last round in, so....my 7-round mag has 6, and my 6-round mag has 5. Hoping with use the spring will loosen up just a little bit.

[Thondalar]

Yeah... the point of that comedic skit was in it's hyperbole. You have really weird fantasies.

No, I'm just incapable of understanding hyperbole.

Its a curse and a gift.

[Ker_Thwap]

ok, well, apparently...removing firearms from the safe in my current condition is FROWNED UPON BY THIS ESTABLISHMENT (my wife)...I'll post some pics tomorrow.

Long story short, I picked up a Smith and Wesson Shield (in .40 Smith and Wesson, of course) a few days ago...fucker is tiny, but with the 7-round mag it actually has a pretty good grip. 6-round mag I can only get like 3 fingers on and it feels kinda weird...but it is a lot smaller than my 23 and still gets the job done...easier to carry. I put a few rounds through it yesterday and it worked like a charm...stock sights aren't bad for what you intend to use it for, self-defense, so I figure 30' or so tops, it shot really well. The magazines are tight as shit, though...I'm a pretty stout dude and I could only load them to 1 short of max...even used my shirt to get a grip and couldn't squeeze that last round in, so....my 7-round mag has 6, and my 6-round mag has 5. Hoping with use the spring will loosen up just a little bit.

New from Ronco, the breathalyzer gun safe!

[Tenlaar]

ok, well, apparently...removing firearms from the safe in my current condition is FROWNED UPON BY THIS ESTABLISHMENT (my wife)...I'll post some pics tomorrow.

Long story short, I picked up a Smith and Wesson Shield (in .40 Smith and Wesson, of course) a few days ago...fucker is tiny, but with the 7-round mag it actually has a pretty good grip. 6-round mag I can only get like 3 fingers on and it feels kinda weird...but it is a lot smaller than my 23 and still gets the job done...easier to carry. I put a few rounds through it yesterday and it worked like a charm...stock sights aren't bad for what you intend to use it for, self-defense, so I figure 30' or so tops, it shot really well. The magazines are tight as shit, though...I'm a pretty stout dude and I could only load them to 1 short of max...even used my shirt to get a grip and couldn't squeeze that last round in, so....my 7-round mag has 6, and my 6-round mag has 5. Hoping with use the spring will loosen up just a little bit.

http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/c1/c1bbb5e41197c3baebc7e03cea3ab0629aa9b6ea8d350841d4 0b03cfc4593804.jpg

[Thondalar]

Good luck finding anything.

I almost feel bad about all this, and I've considered expressing that to GR, but then I remember how we got here. It's frustrating now and it was frustrating then not knowing what wacky shit she'll do next.

Despite what she'll tell you, we communicated (mostly IMs) enough and with enough sincerity at the time that I believed we were on good terms. She would start conversations with me. But then a week later I'd have someone asking me why she came to them saying I'm harassing her.

I forget when the night in question was. I'm assuming late summer but I honestly don't know. In the weeks prior, though, I assure you that GR and I had at least one conversation on the topic of how much friendlier we had become. She shared personal details of her life with me. And then she turned around and said I was stalking her and that she never wanted to hear from me, but I just wouldn't quit. I never got an explanation, so I had to reach the conclusion I described earlier: girl's got issues. I don't really dig being a target, and in that respect, don't feel so bad after all. She's not my victim.

GR does have issues. Mostly self-esteem. I feel like she has worked past most of that, though, and maturity has tempered a lot of that fire, as it has for most of us to varying degrees. Is what it is.

[Thondalar]

http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/c1/c1bbb5e41197c3baebc7e03cea3ab0629aa9b6ea8d350841d4 0b03cfc4593804.jpg

Don't tell me what to do. Nigga's braids too tight thinkin' he can put down on me like that. Fuck you X, go fix a car.

[Bobmuhthol]

So you didn't tell everyone after the meeting that pk and GR had sex?I told BriarFox and msconstrew because, at the time, I was sick of her shit (like I am now, after being accused of threatening to rape her, wtf). I don't think Liagala was with us (it was on the walk back toward Central Square) but I can't be sure. Anyway, msconstrew and probably not so much BriarFox expressed some negative opinions about GR. I was *very* drunk at this point and suggested that she was a mess and her very creepy relationship with that dude was a contributing factor. It was months later that I learned about msconstrew being the same amount of mess for the same reason. What a faux pas!

[JackWhisper]

Don't tell me what to do. Nigga's braids too tight thinkin' he can put down on me like that. Fuck you X, go fix a car.

Don't hate because you want a bigass fish tank in your hatchback.

[Thondalar]

Don't hate because you want a bigass fish tank in your hatchback.

:( I wish I had a fish tank.


OR EVEN a hatchback to put it in.

[Tgo01]

I told BriarFox and msconstrew because, at the time, I was sick of her shit (like I am now, after being accused of threatening to rape her, wtf). I don't think Liagala was with us (it was on the walk back toward Central Square) but I can't be sure. Anyway, msconstrew and probably not so much BriarFox expressed some negative opinions about GR. I was *very* drunk at this point and suggested that she was a mess and her very creepy relationship with that dude was a contributing factor. It was months later that I learned about msconstrew being the same amount of mess for the same reason. What a faux pas!

Man, I wanna find that thread that prompted this person to start messaging me this stuff.

So much gold!

[Thondalar]

Lol...

I've got like...five neg reps in the last hour. Must be some kinda record. This dude apparently doesn't know me:



get a blog or something, no one cares

If I don't care that no one cares, can we be friends because we're equals?

[Thondalar]

I told BriarFox and msconstrew because, at the time, I was sick of her shit (like I am now, after being accused of threatening to rape her, wtf). I don't think Liagala was with us (it was on the walk back toward Central Square) but I can't be sure. Anyway, msconstrew and probably not so much BriarFox expressed some negative opinions about GR. I was *very* drunk at this point and suggested that she was a mess and her very creepy relationship with that dude was a contributing factor. It was months later that I learned about msconstrew being the same amount of mess for the same reason. What a faux pas!


What a tangled web we weave...

[elcidcannon]

too bad i didn't find this sooner:

http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?35792-Current-Pictures-You-topless&p=1541575#post1541575

[Bobmuhthol]

too bad i didn't find this sooner:

http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?35792-Current-Pictures-You-topless&p=1541575#post1541575Why? How would my awesome compliment have changed this thread?

[Tgo01]

too bad i didn't find this sooner:

http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?35792-Current-Pictures-You-topless&p=1541575#post1541575

To be fair, he's not wrong.

[Jeril]

Really?

That revelation is disturbing on many levels.

I'm also betting it added at least another twenty pages to this thread.

Nailed at. You people never fail to amuse me.

[JackWhisper]

Nailed at. You people never fail to amuse me.

Nailed at!

[elcidcannon]

http://i.imgur.com/6B40DQW.jpg

[JackWhisper]

http://i.imgur.com/6B40DQW.jpg

Okay, I laughed. That was funny.

[Tisket]

Everything that is wonderful about the PC and everything that is bad about the PC is encapsulated in this one, perfect thread.

/zen

[JackWhisper]

Everything that is wonderful about the PC and everything that is bad about the PC is encapsulated in this one, perfect thread.

/zen

Lies. Not enough uncensored boobs.

[Tisket]

Nailed at. You people never fail to amuse me.

I'm only at 17 pages. I changed the default posts per page a long time ago. So get busy.

[Celephais]

I'm only at 17 pages. I changed the default posts per page a long time ago. So get busy.
This forum is unreadable at the default setting...

[Celephais]

Now explain how to change it! I feel like I'm about to find the Holy Grail!

Go here: http://forum.gsplayers.com/profile.php?do=editoptions then scroll about halfway down to thread display options. Change the number of posts to show per page (I find 50 to be the right balance personally)

[subzero]

This sure went

http://illusion.scene360.com/wp-content/themes/sahara-10/submissions/2014/08/tropical-blast-02.jpg

[JackWhisper]

This sure went

http://illusion.scene360.com/wp-content/themes/sahara-10/submissions/2014/08/tropical-blast-02.jpg

Bananagasm?

[Parkbandit]

I almost feel bad about all this, and I've considered expressing that to GR, but then I remember how we got here.

I think we got "here" when you decided to one up PK on the creep factor:


We understand that you're still emotionally attached to the girl you fucked. It's clouding your judgement.

Oh and Gnome Rage's LinkedIn is fucking atrocious in case anyone is curious.

[Bobmuhthol]

I think we got "here" when you decided to one up PK on the creep factor:Let me know when I become a single father crossing state lines to fuck a college student bro.

[JackWhisper]

Let me know when I become a single father crossing state lines to fuck a college student bro.

Why do state lines matter in this?

Just curious.

[Bobmuhthol]

Why do state lines matter in this?

Just curious.Because traveling 100+ miles to have sex with a 19 year old from the internet is ridiculous.

[JackWhisper]

Because traveling 100+ miles to have sex with a 19 year old from the internet is ridiculous.

Okay, so I can't have sex with anyone who lives in San Fransisco? I live in Sacramento, California. And I have several friends that live at the edge of San Fran. I can't do booty from San Fran without it being creepy? That's about 125 miles, roughly, depending on what route I take.

Or is this just an 'it's okay as long as there's no state lines involved' thing?

[Celephais]

Because traveling 100+ miles to have sex with a 19 year old from the internet is ridiculous.
... ly awesome!
http://i.imgur.com/uTtQVVt.gif

[Celephais]

Oh wait, while we are at it ... http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?13781-20-Ring-of-Engagement

[JackWhisper]

Oh wait, while we are at it ... http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?13781-20-Ring-of-Engagement

MAN the pics gone. Where's the amethyst ring pic??

[Bobmuhthol]

Okay, so I can't have sex with anyone who lives in San Fransisco? I live in Sacramento, California. And I have several friends that live at the edge of San Fran. I can't do booty from San Fran without it being creepy? That's about 125 miles, roughly, depending on what route I take.

Or is this just an 'it's okay as long as there's no state lines involved' thing?I'm not having this retarded conversation.

[subzero]

Don't tell me what to do. Nigga's braids too tight thinkin' he can put down on me like that. Fuck you X, go fix a car.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/02/25/pimp-my-ride-cars_n_6663840.html

[Gelston]

I take Bob's side on this. Everything I've ever read on the forums for GR shows her as being batshit fucking insane. We saw Bobmuhthol grow up from a small child. He is successful. He went to fucking MIT. That isn't an easy thing to do.

[JackWhisper]

Did he marry the chick he gave the amethyst ring to?

I tried to read the thread and all I got was people hating on him cuz it wasn't a diamond, and a lot of people said she was really fat? *Not sure why that matters, but it was all over the thread*

[elcidcannon]

That's cool.

I'm sure plenty of other creeps grew up from small children and went to MIT, too.

[Gelston]

Did he marry the chick he gave the amethyst ring to?

I tried to read the thread and all I got was people hating on him cuz it wasn't a diamond, and a lot of people said she was really fat? *Not sure why that matters, but it was all over the thread*

Bob is a fucking dick. I'll give that. He is an unsociable douchebag. I seriously doubt he did what GR said.

[JackWhisper]

Bob is a fucking dick. I'll give that. He is an unsociable douchebag. I seriously doubt he did what GR said.

So uhh.... answer the question!

[Gelston]

Seriously, look at GR's previous posts. She has always been a Ilama drama. Fuck, at one point her avatar was a Ilama.

[Gelston]

Also, any bitch that would give it up to PK is pretty gross. I fucked one of them (before him!)

[JackWhisper]

Also, any bitch that would give it up to PK is pretty gross. I fucked one of them (before him!)

Was she gross when you fucked her, or did she turn gross when PK fucked her? Like eating a rotten mushroom on Super Mario? DEVOLVE!

[Gelston]

Was she gross when you fucked her, or did she turn gross when PK fucked her? Like eating a rotten mushroom on Super Mario? DEVOLVE!

I'd say a little of both. You know, when a woman fucks you on the first date, it isn't usually a great sign.

[waywardgs]

/facepalm this whole fuckin mess.

[elcidcannon]

I'm just curious when the next east coast meetup is going to be!

[JackWhisper]

I'm just curious when the next east coast meetup is going to be!

Fuck that. This is making me really cranky that I missed the west coast meetup. There was probably some huge sex drama that will come out in a month or two that nobody's talking about right now. Like Jeril had sex with one of the girls and another walked in and shit went nuts.

I need a night that I can wake up to and say 'Holy fuck. That happened'. Not Hangover3 I've got boobies rough, but maybe Hangover1 I lost a tooth rough.

[tyrant-201]

Fuck that. This is making me really cranky that I missed the west coast meetup. There was probably some huge sex drama that will come out in a month or two that nobody's talking about right now. Like Jeril had sex with one of the girls and another walked in and shit went nuts.

I need a night that I can wake up to and say 'Holy fuck. That happened'. Not Hangover3 I've got boobies rough, but maybe Hangover1 I lost a tooth rough.

There is at least one person who attended the west coast meeting on the level of craziness that is GR. Hit me up, I'll let you know.

[JackWhisper]

There is at least one person who attended the west coast meeting on the level of craziness that is GR. Hit me up, I'll let you know.

:thinking:
:thinking:
:thinking:
:thinking:

[Thondalar]

too bad i didn't find this sooner:

http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?35792-Current-Pictures-You-topless&p=1541575#post1541575

haha, I have a post in that thread like 6 posts after what you linked talking about Fuaru's pic. Man, that was a while ago.

[Thondalar]

Fuck that. This is making me really cranky that I missed the west coast meetup. There was probably some huge sex drama that will come out in a month or two that nobody's talking about right now. Like Jeril had sex with one of the girls and another walked in and shit went nuts.

I need a night that I can wake up to and say 'Holy fuck. That happened'. Not Hangover3 I've got boobies rough, but maybe Hangover1 I lost a tooth rough.

Dude...every GS meetup since day 1 has been a sex-fest for certain people involved. You wonder why there's so much drama. So much...tension.

[JackWhisper]

haha, I have a post in that thread like 6 posts after what you linked talking about Fuaru's pic. Man, that was a while ago.

Sad part. I bought Fuaru from that guy. Saw that thread. Was so embarrassed I sold Fuaru a month later. Could NOT live down that rep from that fucking pic.

[Thondalar]

Sad part. I bought Fuaru from that guy. Saw that thread. Was so embarrassed I sold Fuaru a month later. Could NOT live down that rep from that fucking pic.

Best part of that entire thread was GR.

I'm wishing now that I was a perve and save copies to my HD. Alas, I did not.

[Thondalar]

Sad part. I bought Fuaru from that guy. Saw that thread. Was so embarrassed I sold Fuaru a month later. Could NOT live down that rep from that fucking pic.

Dude was a total homo. Being a homo isn't wrong in and of itself...denying your homo-ness and trying to cover it up by being a douchebag is just borderline criminal.

[JackWhisper]

Dude was a total homo. Being a homo isn't wrong in and of itself...denying your homo-ness and trying to cover it up by being a douchebag is just borderline criminal.

LOL I just heard that All About That Bass song in my head except the chorus part was NO HOMO instead of no treble. Thanks a lot Thond.

[Thondalar]

LOL I just heard that All About That Bass song in my head except the chorus part was NO HOMO instead of no treble. Thanks a lot Thond.

I am but a servant.

[Thondalar]

I take Bob's side on this. Everything I've ever read on the forums for GR shows her as being batshit fucking insane. We saw Bobmuhthol grow up from a small child. He is successful. He went to fucking MIT. That isn't an easy thing to do.

We assume he did these things because he has told us he did these things.

Hrmm.

[Thondalar]

Because traveling 100+ miles to have sex with a 19 year old from the internet is ridiculous.

That depends entirely on the 19 year old in question.

I'd probably fill up the tank for a round with GR. Just sayin'.

[JackWhisper]

That depends entirely on the 19 year old in question.

I'd probably fill up the tank for a round with GR. Just sayin'.

I'm just at a loss about this. I guess it comes from being in a well off family. I traveled across the country for wild sex when I was growing up. On a yearly basis. It's just what I did. I'm not ashamed of it. I've had sex with girls from my hometown *Okay, I'm kind of ashamed of that. That was some never-admit-I-did-that type shit. Like some moped fun type action.*, and sex with girls who lived 3000 miles away. Isn't it the relationship/connection that matters rather than how far apart you are at any given point in time?

Maybe I've got a screw loose.

Well, I mean, I have a few screws loose anyways, but that's not the point.

[JackWhisper]

That depends entirely on the 19 year old in question.

I'd probably fill up the tank for a round with GR. Just sayin'.

Oh and given the shot, I can't say I'd turn down wrestling with a lawn gnome. Just saying.

[JackWhisper]

I've played Gemstone since I was a pup. Well before sex was inculcated into my wants and needs as a burgeoning adult and beyond. As an older individual now, I can't help but feel I REALLY missed something major about Gemstone when I was growing up. Where was all this wild sex shit when I was 17 and 18?! I'm not asking for a Dayko experience, but come on! Damnit! :axe:

It's almost as bad as when my mom told me a while back that when we all played Everquest 1 in 1999, she was being constantly invited to swinger cyber sessions for her and my father. Everquest 1 was a giant married couples swingers bar back then.

Grossest. Revelation. EVER.

[Astray]

Yeah... I wouldn't go way out of my way for a 19 year old. That being said, frequent flyer miles are always good to have.

[Thondalar]

I'm just at a loss about this. I guess it comes from being in a well off family. I traveled across the country for wild sex when I was growing up. On a yearly basis. It's just what I did. I'm not ashamed of it. I've had sex with girls from my hometown *Okay, I'm kind of ashamed of that. That was some never-admit-I-did-that type shit. Like some moped fun type action.*, and sex with girls who lived 3000 miles away. Isn't it the relationship/connection that matters rather than how far apart you are at any given point in time?

Maybe I've got a screw loose.

Well, I mean, I have a few screws loose anyways, but that's not the point.

Weird, I've never traveled across the country for much of anything besides vacations. I must just live in a crazy area that has plenty of "wild sex" locally that I've never even considered traveling for it.

HOWEVER...GR would be a minor exception. But even then I wouldn't be willing to go more than a 4-5 hour drive. And this is all hypothetical, of course.

[Thondalar]

I've played Gemstone since I was a pup. Well before sex was inculcated into my wants and needs as a burgeoning adult and beyond. As an older individual now, I can't help but feel I REALLY missed something major about Gemstone when I was growing up. Where was all this wild sex shit when I was 17 and 18?! I'm not asking for a Dayko experience, but come on! Damnit! :axe:

It's almost as bad as when my mom told me a while back that when we all played Everquest 1 in 1999, she was being constantly invited to swinger cyber sessions for her and my father. Everquest 1 was a giant married couples swingers bar back then.

Grossest. Revelation. EVER.


How old were you in 1999? I played Everquest and I don't remember any of this supposed "swinger shit"...maybe because I wasn't looking for it. I was 20 years old in 1999, not exactly a spring chicken where I wouldn't have picked up on some sort of something along the way somewhere. Maybe Alzheimer's is kicking in and I just don't recall.

[JackWhisper]

How old were you in 1999? I played Everquest and I don't remember any of this supposed "swinger shit"...maybe because I wasn't looking for it. I was 20 years old in 1999, not exactly a spring chicken where I wouldn't have picked up on some sort of something along the way somewhere. Maybe Alzheimer's is kicking in and I just don't recall.

I was 14. I was laser focused on being the awesomest Halfling warrior on my server. And TOTALLY missed all this mass cybering and real world hookup shit.

Though, one of my mom's coworkers at the time was *SO STUPID* she didn't realize emotes went through walls. My mom's running her character through Freeport, and this dumbass woman was cybering a guy in emotes *instead of tells or something...gogo immersion dedication? rofl*. And my mom caught her. And told her she caught her. Like, "Umm....PSST... You know emotes go through walls right?"

People are dumb.

[Astray]

I was 14. I was laser focused on being the awesomest Halfling warrior on my server. And TOTALLY missed all this mass cybering and real world hookup shit.

Though, one of my mom's coworkers at the time was *SO STUPID* she didn't realize emotes went through walls. My mom's running her character through Freeport, and this dumbass woman was cybering a guy in emotes *instead of tells or something...gogo immersion dedication? rofl*. And my mom caught her. And told her she caught her. Like, "Umm....PSST... You know emotes go through walls right?"

People are dumb.

Nothing worse than finding a coworker pretending to have sex.

[JackWhisper]

Nothing worse than finding a coworker pretending to have sex.

I saw the woman, and I understood why she was doing shit like that.

Someone insert a funny #Woof pic or gif.

[Tisket]

There is at least one person who attended the west coast meeting on the level of craziness that is GR. Hit me up, I'll let you know.

I know who you are talking about and I would disagree. She's cuckoo and snarky for sure but, unlike GR, she's not malevolent and petty.

[Tisket]

Androidpk is a pussy for avoiding this thread. Stand up for your girlfriend, you giant coward!