So I wanna get a big kid job

[Gnome Rage]

I'm concerned about telling my current boss that I'm looking for other employment, when I picked up the second job that I have, he kind of freaked out. When should I tell him I'm looking for a real-adult job, how do I do it?

:| I have a few applications I'm working on filling out, but I haven't submitted anything yet because I'll have to use him as a reference, obviously, and I know I need to tell him that I'm planning to leave.

[JackWhisper]

You have no responsibility to tell him anything.

And you don't have to tell him you're using him as a reference, either.

Just give them the *STORE* phone number, in the reference, so that they call and get you, and then you can field it as you want.

ETA: Tell him, when he's talking to them, that it was an application you filled out a while back, didn't even remember. Or something. Make a good excuse. ^^.

[Astray]

when I picked up the second job that I have, he kind of freaked out

What? Typically if you give your boss forewarning, they'll sort it out by asking for a schedule. I've had two jobs before and both bosses were comfortable working out a schedule that didn't conflict or give me 5 minutes to go from point A to point B.

[Gnome Rage]

What? Typically if you give your boss forewarning, they'll sort it out by asking for a schedule. I've had two jobs before and both bosses were comfortable working out a schedule that didn't conflict or give me 5 minutes to go from point A to point B.I literally picked up a job on my day off. He always gave me Wednesdays off, so I picked up a job on Wednesdays, and he freaked the heck out. He was all scared I was going to leave.

His son is joining the military in a month, I am literally the only employee other than the owner and his mother.

[SHAFT]

I'm concerned about telling my current boss that I'm looking for other employment, when I picked up the second job that I have, he kind of freaked out. When should I tell him I'm looking for a real-adult job, how do I do it?

:| I have a few applications I'm working on filling out, but I haven't submitted anything yet because I'll have to use him as a reference, obviously, and I know I need to tell him that I'm planning to leave.

You never tell your current boss you're looking for another job.

[Gnome Rage]

I would be completely leaving though. I want to apply for jobs that have benefits, monday-friday jobs, I want to see my boyfriend on the weekends, we get one day off together every 13 days and I'm sick of it. I'm sick of working at a retail job when I have a higher level of education than most of the people I know here. I'm sick of going to parties and people talking about how they're engineers and shit, with bachelors degrees and I sell fucking handbags with a Masters. I'm sick of being 80k in debt and having no realistic idea of when I will be able to pay that off.

I WANT A REAL PERSON JOB.

[Astray]

I literally picked up a job on my day off. He always gave me Wednesdays off, so I picked up a job on Wednesdays, and he freaked the heck out. He was all scared I was going to leave.

His son is joining the military in a month, I am literally the only employee other than the owner and his mother.

Now, because I'm a scumbag, I'd say this other job is offering me more. If he couldn't give me a raise, I'd say "Sorry but I gotta give this other job priority then" and that's just me. And again, I can be a scumbag sometimes.

[Gnome Rage]

You never tell your current boss you're looking for another job.

Even though I'm going to be putting him as a reference?!

[Wrathbringer]

I would be completely leaving though. I want to apply for jobs that have benefits, monday-friday jobs, I want to see my boyfriend on the weekends, we get one day off together every 13 days and I'm sick of it. I'm sick of working at a retail job when I have a higher level of education than most of the people I know here. I'm sick of going to parties and people talking about how they're engineers and shit, with bachelors degrees and I sell fucking handbags with a Masters. I'm sick of being 80k in debt and having no realistic idea of when I will be able to pay that off.

I WANT A REAL PERSON JOB.

Have you considered faking your death? Also, you have a masters?

[Taernath]

Yeah, don't tell your boss you're looking for other work, particularly if you're quitting your current job for it. When you get the other job, THEN let him know.

If he's being used as a reference do what Jack said.


Even though I'm going to be putting him as a reference?!

It's because bosses can make things go to shit for you depending on how petty they are. You do it to protect yourself.

[Gnome Rage]

Have you considered faking your death? Also, you have a masters?

Yes, I got my bachelors in 2013, and my masters in 2014. I will be getting a license... eventually :| My counselor wants me to take the test next month but IM SCARED

[Gnome Rage]

Can I just put my masters level advisor, my boss previous to my current boss, and my bachelors level program dept head as references? Do they have to be WORK references? Can I put internship references instead?

Like, there is no where on any of these for me to put my many internships, which is where I actually have the experience that is required. I've worked as a therapist in three different venues, but none of them were "employment" so... where do they go? Do I submit an additional page?

[Wrathbringer]

Yes, I got my bachelors in 2013, and my masters in 2014. I will be getting a license... eventually :| My counselor wants me to take the test next month but IM SCARED

Good for you, GR. Good for you.

[Taernath]

Can I just put my masters level advisor, my boss previous to my current boss, and my bachelors level program dept head as references? Do they have to be WORK references? Can I put internship references instead?

You would probably have to explain why you're not using your last job as a reference. No matter what you say here it would look bad.

I wouldn't use a college department head as a reference unless the job has something to do with your major.

[Gnome Rage]

You would probably have to explain why you're not using your last job as a reference. No matter what you say here it would look bad.

I wouldn't use a college department head as a reference unless the job has something to do with your major.

It does. I'd be applying for an entry level position within a counseling center, the department head of my program fucking LOVED me. She gave me awards and shit. My program is "well-known" among the community of social work people, but I don't know if it is shady to not put that many work references. I guess I have to put my current boss... I don't think he'd like, give me a bad review or anything, I work hard for the business, I built their website for free and stuff, but I just don't want them to call and then NOT hire me and I have to explain to him and aargh. I'm really really bad at being assertive, I'm very non-confrontational and yeah.

[Seizer]

......I am literally the only employee other than the owner and his mother.

Not sure in your state what the laws are, unless you are listing him as a personal reference there shouldn't be too much concern on your part. Most employers just want to see that you aren't full of shit about working at a place from this date to that date. Technically they are only allowed to ask a question such as, "Do you have an employee named such and such? Did they work at this place from this year/day/month?"
Just my experience in the past when going from dead end job as a college kid to full time career.

[subzero]

Like, there is no where on any of these for me to put my many internships, which is where I actually have the experience that is required. I've worked as a therapist in three different venues, but none of them were "employment" so... where do they go? Do I submit an additional page?

This is what a resume is for.

[Gnome Rage]

This is what a resume is for.

Herderp. Yeah, I don't know why I assumed I couldn't send in my resume. The page asks for the application and a cover letter, but never mentions a resume. I didn't think that I could just send one in... :| duh

[Gnome Rage]

Also, should I call my previous bosses and tell them that I'm putting them as references or is it normal to just have a place call out of the blue and ask about an employee?

and I had a job as an RA, but I don't think my direct supervisor works at the college anymore. Should I put the head of the res life office instead? Or should I just put my direct supervisor, and the number for the housing office?

I'm like a new born pig, I have no idea how to do this shit.

[Taernath]

Also, should I call my previous bosses and tell them that I'm putting them as references or is it normal to just have a place call out of the blue and ask about an employee?

They usually just confirm employment, so there's no need to call.


and I had a job as an RA, but I don't think my direct supervisor works at the college anymore. Should I put the head of the res life office instead? Or should I just put my direct supervisor, and the number for the housing office?

I'm like a new born pig, I have no idea how to do this shit.

Jesus Christ GR, how did you get into grad school or your last job?

[Gelston]

They usually just confirm employment, so there's no need to call.



Jesus Christ GR, how did you get into grad school or your last job?

She probably already knows all the answers but is looking for confirmation she is right because she has low self esteem.

[kutter]

Resume and references available upon request, if that is not sufficient, are you sure you want the job?

When I retired from the military and started looking for jobs all I gave was a resume. If they handed me an application to fill out, I stapled my resume to it and left it blank. The resume is more than sufficient for them to decide if they want to interview you. I have no intention of providing personal information to someone that is not offering me a job.

[Gnome Rage]

They usually just confirm employment, so there's no need to call.



Jesus Christ GR, how did you get into grad school or your last job?

Well, my last job I got because the owner also owns the store I was working at before this one, and I got that one by submitting my resume and meeting with the owner of that store... and grad school, had very clear directions for how to apply. I DONT DO WELL WITH LACK OF STRUCTURE. Actually, pretty much every job I've gotten I just walked in with a resume and gave it to the people. I've never had to fill out an application really...

also, I'm pretty sure I could figure this all out, but I'm PANICKING because IM SCARED OF BEING AN ADULT.

[Gnome Rage]

She probably already knows all the answers but is looking for confirmation she is right because she has low self esteem.

YUP

[Latrinsorm]

The way you handle getting a job when you already have a job is you give your current job two weeks notice when you get the new job (and you tell your new job you can start two weeks from the day you get the job). What you call non-confrontational is really more passive aggressive, but if you don't want to talk to your current boss about it when the time comes you can give him a letter instead I guess. Definitely don't just quit, either before or after you get the new job.

You can put internships in employment fields. I guarantee the counseling center cares more about those than your retail job.

[Alashir]

I would be completely leaving though. I want to apply for jobs that have benefits, monday-friday jobs, I want to see my boyfriend on the weekends, we get one day off together every 13 days and I'm sick of it. I'm sick of working at a retail job when I have a higher level of education than most of the people I know here. I'm sick of going to parties and people talking about how they're engineers and shit, with bachelors degrees and I sell fucking handbags with a Masters. I'm sick of being 80k in debt and having no realistic idea of when I will be able to pay that off.

I WANT A REAL PERSON JOB.

What's your masters in?

Edit: Counseling or something? They're not going to give two fucks if you've sold handbags for 10 years, it doesn't mean shit. You have a specialized degree. As a cardiac RN I don't include my time at papa murphys under previous job history and neither should you.

Also, you must be insanely hot to get this far and not realize you can app without including your retail experience. Like, Kate Upton hot.

[Latrinsorm]

Resume and references available upon request, if that is not sufficient, are you sure you want the job?

When I retired from the military and started looking for jobs all I gave was a resume. If they handed me an application to fill out, I stapled my resume to it and left it blank. The resume is more than sufficient for them to decide if they want to interview you. I have no intention of providing personal information to someone that is not offering me a job.Ha, that's a funny idea.

[Gnome Rage]

What's your masters in?

Social Work, general practice--but I focused on adolescents and the elderly during my internships.

[Gnome Rage]

The way you handle getting a job when you already have a job is you give your current job two weeks notice when you get the new job (and you tell your new job you can start two weeks from the day you get the job). What you call non-confrontational is really more passive aggressive, but if you don't want to talk to your current boss about it when the time comes you can give him a letter instead I guess. Definitely don't just quit, either before or after you get the new job.

You can put internships in employment fields. I guarantee the counseling center cares more about those than your retail job.
A+ helpful post

[Allereli]

you're not required to give 2 weeks notice if the people hiring you want you to start earlier, but it falls under "professional courtesy." With a retail job as the only other employee I think one week is enough.

If you're still in touch (or even not in touch) with any professors, or anyone that oversaw internships, use them as references and get reacquainted with them if needed, they're probably better to list than your current boss as they're likely in the same field as you're applying.

If you need someone to look over your resume for formatting, etc., feel free to email me.

[Gnome Rage]

you're not required to give 2 weeks notice if the people hiring you want you to start earlier, but it falls under "professional courtesy." With a retail job as the only other employee I think one week is enough.

If you're still in touch (or even not in touch) with any professors, or anyone that oversaw internships, use them as references and get reacquainted with them if needed, they're probably better to list than your current boss as they're likely in the same field as you're applying.

If you need someone to look over your resume for formatting, etc., feel free to email me.
I feel like my advisers are better qualified to judge my skills for the job that I'm applying for, but my bosses are more qualified to talk about how I behave at work/my general demeanor and my enthusiasm for any job I'm given. I generally think my advisers would give better more rounded summaries of me as a person.

[Taernath]

I feel like my advisers are better qualified to judge my skills for the job that I'm applying for, but my bosses are more qualified to talk about how I behave at work/my general demeanor and my enthusiasm for any job I'm given. I generally think my advisers would give better more rounded summaries of me as a person.

Always list most relevant employer first. In this case, it would be an internship if you had one, even if it's not the most recent. Retail probably doesn't have much to do with the position you're applying for. Put that at the end of the resume. Something like:

Internship at social justice warriors anonymous
2012-2013

School of hard knocks
2011-present

Flipping burgers
2011-present

[Gelston]

Sign up to be a fry cook at McDonalds, and slowly work your way up through the franchise and then corporate ladder, eventually becoming a VP for Something and being on the show undercover boss.

[Wrathbringer]

Shoo nigga you smell like French fries!

[Gelston]

Shoo nigga you smell like French fries!

23andme DNA results told me I am .2% West African. You therefore offend me by using that word.

[Wrathbringer]

23andme DNA results told me I am .2% West African. You therefore offend me by using that word.

Yeah, but your offense bar has like 99.9998% left before you're completely offended. Tanking africanism was a wise move.

[Gelston]

Yeah, someone really has to fuck with Europe to fill the rest of it. No Asian, Middle Eastern, or Native American in me. Go genes!

[MotleyCrew]

Well, if you want a real person job then it's high time you stand on your own two feet, act like and adult and go get the job you say you want.

You fleshed your way to a masters degree, you surely can fill out an application and build a resume.

Panicking and being scared will get you absolutely no where and you might as well stay in retail/service.

And if you can't learn to structure your own life and become confrontational at least to a minor degree, you might as well line a bird cage with said degree and be satisfied with your current station in life.

[Androidpk]

Well, if you want a real person job then it's high time you stand on your own two feet, act like and adult and go get the job you say you want.

You fleshed your way to a masters degree, you surely can fill out an application and build a resume.

Panicking and being scared will get you absolutely no where and you might as well stay in retail/service.

And if you can't learn to structure your own life and become confrontational at least to a minor degree, you might as well line a bird cage with said degree and be satisfied with your current station in life.



http://1.media.collegehumor.cvcdn.com/64/77/dc59f2bf4d5da829a3c8d9b8990c7304-loopgif14.gif

[Tgo01]

Well, if you want a real person job then it's high time you stand on your own two feet, act like and adult and go get the job you say you want.

You fleshed your way to a masters degree, you surely can fill out an application and build a resume.

Panicking and being scared will get you absolutely no where and you might as well stay in retail/service.

And if you can't learn to structure your own life and become confrontational at least to a minor degree, you might as well line a bird cage with said degree and be satisfied with your current station in life.

Puptilian for mayor!!

[Gnome Rage]

Well, if you want a real person job then it's high time you stand on your own two feet, act like and adult and go get the job you say you want.

You fleshed your way to a masters degree, you surely can fill out an application and build a resume.

Panicking and being scared will get you absolutely no where and you might as well stay in retail/service.

And if you can't learn to structure your own life and become confrontational at least to a minor degree, you might as well line a bird cage with said degree and be satisfied with your current station in life.
Part of being an adult is knowing when you need to ask for the advice of others.

I wanted some help, I asked for some help. I'm not asking you all to type my resume for me.

[JackWhisper]

Alright, I read half the thread. If yer messin with the gnome, you suck rotten pie. She's a pup trying not to get reamed by a clearly semi-idiotic Norman Bates boss.

Step 1 - Send in your resume. Make that shit awesome.
Step 2 - Tell your boss NOTHING. As people said, bosses frequently can, and WILL, screw over a valued employee to keep them there. Obviously, you do shit right since he's a wackjob about your Wednesdays.
Step 3 - As I said, when your boss ends up having to talk to someone, he will be put on the spot, and stand in front of him, so he cannot make shit up or insult your performance without you knowing. Do NOT let him leave to talk with them privately. Also, do not make a scene. Assume 100% that your boss is doing sneaky shit if he tries to wander off or transfer the call to his office phone. I suggest using your cell phone as the number to call, or a burner phone. Yes, a drug dealer burner phone. Aww yeah gangster.
Step 4 - You have the experience needed. You must understand that you are not a walk-on for your desired profession. You are like a doctor who isn't doing his first residency, you're just transferring hospitals. It's just another day. Remember that.
Step 5 - When your boss confronts you after the call, say it was just an application you put in a long while ago when you spoke with your college advisor, and they had you fill out relevant occupation applications to help you find work.
Step 6 - Finish your shift. Go get yourself some fucking Jamba Juice afterwards. Drink that shit like a boss.
Step 7 - Go home, pet your cat, have monkey sex with boyfriend, then eat food.
Step 8 - Log onto PC, tell the haters to screw donkeys with their big heads.
Step 9 - ???
Step 10 - Profit in life.

Good luck, GR.

[Tisket]

also, I'm pretty sure I could figure this all out, but I'm PANICKING because IM SCARED OF BEING AN ADULT.

Aren't you like 24 or something?

Jesus.

[Tisket]

Resume and references available upon request, if that is not sufficient, are you sure you want the job?

When I retired from the military and started looking for jobs all I gave was a resume. If they handed me an application to fill out, I stapled my resume to it and left it blank. The resume is more than sufficient for them to decide if they want to interview you. I have no intention of providing personal information to someone that is not offering me a job.

That's bad advice. If you're handed an actual real application to fill out (lol who doesn't require online apps anymore) then show respect and take a stab at filling it out. I worked for a boss who HATED the practice you are advocating.

Also, your last sentence makes little sense...you would be providing personal information on the resume you stapled to the application.

[Thondalar]

You have no responsibility to tell him anything.

And you don't have to tell him you're using him as a reference, either.

Just give them the *STORE* phone number, in the reference, so that they call and get you, and then you can field it as you want.

ETA: Tell him, when he's talking to them, that it was an application you filled out a while back, didn't even remember. Or something. Make a good excuse. ^^.

This. It is actually really impressive that you feel some amount of loyalty, but you can't let that hold you back from doing what you want to do. If you get a job offer, let the new employer know you need at least 2 weeks to give proper notice to your previous employer before you can start, and immediately let your current employer know that you are giving them 2 weeks notice.

Funny thing about "big kid jobs" is that most employers act like adults and don't begrudge anyone for trying to better themselves. As long as you follow the proper protocols and don't burn any bridges, you're fine.

[Thondalar]

That's bad advice. If you're handed an actual real application to fill out (lol who doesn't require online apps anymore) then show respect and take a stab at filling it out. I worked for a boss who HATED the practice you are advocating.

Also, your last sentence makes little sense...you would be providing personal information on the resume you stapled to the application.

As an employer myself, this is exactly it. If we even had physical applications anymore, a person who attached a resume but didn't fill out the app would go straight to the trash. If you're willing to openly defy even that simple instruction, I have no use for you.

[JackWhisper]

As an employer myself, this is exactly it. If we even had physical applications anymore, a person who attached a resume but didn't fill out the app would go straight to the trash. If you're willing to openly defy even that simple instruction, I have no use for you.

Now put on this pickle costume and go hand out flyers while dancing. DANCE PICKLE! DANCE!

[Gelston]

As an employer myself, this is exactly it. If we even had physical applications anymore, a person who attached a resume but didn't fill out the app would go straight to the trash. If you're willing to openly defy even that simple instruction, I have no use for you.

Especially when there are a bunch of other people going for the job. You are just setting yourself up to be weeded out before they even look at your qualifications.

[Thondalar]

Especially when there are a bunch of other people going for the job. You are just setting yourself up to be weeded out before they even look at your qualifications.

Exactly. The process starts immediately...what "they say" about first impressions is 100% true.

Its not quite as bad where I'm at now, because all the apps are done online and you basically aren't allowed to post a resume without still filling out the "required fields"...but back when I was at Winghouse and we did mainly physical applications...I would see on average 6 girls per day looking for a job. Obviously, "entertainment dining" as it was, the first impression was their physical appearance. We were supposed to give a quick interview to every applicant right on the spot, but probably half the time I wouldn't...just tell them "we're pretty well-staffed at the moment, but if anything comes up we'll call you"...that was code for "you're entirely too ugly and/or old and/or overweight to put on little tiny shorts and a low-cut top and represent our brand"...harsh, but shit, man...I didn't have time for BS.

I don't have nearly as many pretty ladies where I'm at now, but from a job aspect I like it 100% better...if I need to fill a spot I can sift through the online apps and call just the people I want for interviews.

[Thondalar]

Part of being an adult is knowing when you need to ask for the advice of others.

I wanted some help, I asked for some help. I'm not asking you all to type my resume for me.

100% agree. I think a place like this would actually be great for asking about such things, because a lot of us started playing this game in the 80's and 90's, and are now much older and (mostly) accomplished and experienced IRL. I feel like you've mostly conquered your self-esteem issues GR, and your response to Motley here is further evidence of that. Hopefully myself and some others have been able to give you the insight you seek.

[Androidpk]

Exactly. The process starts immediately...what "they say" about first impressions is 100% true.

Its not quite as bad where I'm at now, because all the apps are done online and you basically aren't allowed to post a resume without still filling out the "required fields"...but back when I was at Winghouse and we did mainly physical applications...I would see on average 6 girls per day looking for a job. Obviously, "entertainment dining" as it was, the first impression was their physical appearance. We were supposed to give a quick interview to every applicant right on the spot, but probably half the time I wouldn't...just tell them "we're pretty well-staffed at the moment, but if anything comes up we'll call you"...that was code for "you're entirely too ugly and/or old and/or overweight to put on little tiny shorts and a low-cut top and represent our brand"...harsh, but shit, man...I didn't have time for BS.

I don't have nearly as many pretty ladies where I'm at now, but from a job aspect I like it 100% better...if I need to fill a spot I can sift through the online apps and call just the people I want for interviews.

How many discrimination lawsuits were you threatened with?

[Thondalar]

Aren't you like 24 or something?

Jesus.

24 is the new 14.

[Thondalar]

How many discrimination lawsuits were you threatened with?

None. Hooters handled it for us quite a few years ago...notice where I put "entertainment dining" in quotation marks? We're classified as such...basically, we're ruled by the same law that says you have to be able to ride a horse and joust if you want to work as a knight for "Medieval Times" restaurant/entertainment venue.

Long story short...a guy tried to sue Hooters a while back because they wouldn't hire him as a server. End result? Judge ruled in favor of Hooters, saying they are "entertainment dining", and their clientele expects a certain type of atmosphere and dining experience. We're free to discriminate all we want.

[Tgo01]

Pretty sure it's legal to discriminate based on someone's looks.

[JackWhisper]

Pretty sure it's legal to discriminate based on someone's looks.

Yup! Casinos, Hooters, other sports bar franchises, strip clubs. All are deemed things like 'entertainment dining' as Thondalar said, and can include looks as a requirement for employment.

[Androidpk]

Who would have guessed Thondolar used to wear booty shorts to work!

[Androidpk]

Yup! Casinos, Hooters, other sports bar franchises, strip clubs. All are deemed things like 'entertainment dining' as Thondalar said, and can include looks as a requirement for employment.

Oh god, the strip clubs in Virginia don't discriminate against looks!

[JackWhisper]

Oh god, the strip clubs in Virginia don't discriminate against looks!

I found that chick you were tossin dolla dolla bills at, yall.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sW4-X9dUZk

[Stanley Burrell]

I found that chick you were tossin dolla dolla bills at, yall.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sW4-X9dUZk

Yo...

[Androidpk]

I found that chick you were tossin dolla dolla bills at, yall.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sW4-X9dUZk

Nah, the one I have in mind was pencil thin and we got kicked out for not giving her dollar bills.

[JackWhisper]

ROFL Stan! You got to it before I edited it! Dammit it was sposed to be a surprise!

[Warriorbird]

I would be completely leaving though. I want to apply for jobs that have benefits, monday-friday jobs, I want to see my boyfriend on the weekends, we get one day off together every 13 days and I'm sick of it. I'm sick of working at a retail job when I have a higher level of education than most of the people I know here. I'm sick of going to parties and people talking about how they're engineers and shit, with bachelors degrees and I sell fucking handbags with a Masters. I'm sick of being 80k in debt and having no realistic idea of when I will be able to pay that off.

I WANT A REAL PERSON JOB.

If a certain other poster on this board can get a Social Worker job with no Masters you can damn sure get one with one.

[Thondalar]

Yup! Casinos, Hooters, other sports bar franchises, strip clubs. All are deemed things like 'entertainment dining' as Thondalar said, and can include looks as a requirement for employment.

Still can't discriminate by race though, that's basically the only caveat...which was fine by me. Two funny stories on this, for different reasons....

1) One day two rather large black women came in to my restaurant (when I was at Winghouse)...I was standing near the front door when they came in. We have "door girls"...basically like hostesses, but since we don't do scheduled seating they're more like just greeters and cute girls opening the doors...well they opened the door for these two ladies, and per training asked if they would like a table or maybe take one of the open seats at the bar. They responded that they weren't here to dine, they were looking for a job application. Christie (18 years old, gorgeous but dumb as a box of rocks) busted out laughing. I immediately intervened and tried to deflect, moving the two women away from the door and to a table before they had a chance to take too much offense.

Look...when I say "rather large", I mean....I'm 6' 265 lbs, still got most of the bulk I put on working out 5 days a week playing football in high school and a little college...I was dwarfed by these two women. Either woman, really. One was only about 5'8", but she was damn near as wide as she was tall. The other was a good inch or two taller than me, and about the same weight, but none of it was muscle. Black, green, white, purple, red, yellow, orange...in no color would these have been Winghouse girls. Not to mention the shorter one had tattoos all up and down both arms and the top of her back and neck...we don't allow visible tattoos.

I already knew it was gonna be a bad situation, but I rolled with it. I got them applications, asked if they wanted anything to drink, normal spiel...I left for about 15 minutes, checked on the kitchen, did my rounds with the regulars, and checked back with them. They had completed their applications and handed them over...I gave them a cursory examination just to keep up appearances, and then said my usual "well, we're pretty fully-staffed at the moment, but I'll give you a call if anything comes up". The tall one didn't even blink before "oh, I bet that's what you tell all the black girls, huh?"

Had she been there on a Friday or Saturday night, when I had most of the girls on staff on the floor, she would have seen that I had several black girls (fucking gorgeous black girls) working there. But she was there on a Tuesday afternoon. Lacey behind the bar was mixed middle-eastern, kinda swarthy but definitely not black...I only had 3 girls on the floor, and it just happened to be three white-ass blondes.

I was momentarily speechless...my first thought was a variation of the "I have black friends!" line, in this case "I have black servers!"...but I didn't go there. I caught myself and said "well no ma'am, its not that at all. I'd be more than happy to show you this week's schedule, and the 76 girls I have covering it. I have a lot of girls going back home for the summer in a couple months, if you're still available at that time I might be able to bring you in."

She was unimpressed, and insisted I would never hire her because "she sees what kind of girls I hire". In my head I'm thinking "well, if you can see that, why the fuck did you bother coming in to apply in the first place?", but I kept my cool. I said I'm sorry you feel that way ma'am, but I assure you its not the case. I'm forced to take an application from anyone who applies, whether I need help or not...the fact that I really don't need help right now is no reflection on you or your application. It will be on file, and if a position comes open I'll give you a call.

She finally acquiesced, and took her tattooed friend with her.

2) Not so much funny in the end, but I thought it was funny to begin with...Winghouse does a bikini calendar every year, and part of the job of the GMs is to sort through the photo shoots from the girls at their store and send in 6 "finalists" for calendar consideration (hey, rough job, but someone has to do it). Well, I noticed a lack of black girls in the calendars for a while...there would be three or four here and there, but...anyone not familiar with Winghouse Calendars...there is one "Main" girl for each month, but a bunch of other girls all throughout, all in skimpy bikinis...so way more than 12 girls per calendar, total...I'd say probably 30-40. Of that, maybe 3 or 4 would be black. MAYBE, and none would be the "month" girls. So one year, all the pics I sent in from my store were black girls. All of them. I get a call the next day from my regional..."So, you thought that was funny?"

I was like "huh?"
"Don't play dumb. You know what I'm talking about."
I was like "Bill, what are you talking about?"
he goes "the calendar. You've got some of the hottest girls in the company, and you send in only the pics of your black girls. What the fuck, man. You trying to be some sort of social justice warrior here?"
I was kinda stammering at this point, because Bill and I went way back, from when he was a manager at Shells (the Florida seafood restaurant, not the gas station) like 10 years ago, and I could tell he was legitimately pissed at me.
"eh...no, man, just, you know...I got some good-looking black g..."
"don't give me that bullshit. You know what you did. Fuck this man, I've got copies of the pics, I'm sending in the ones for your restaurant"
"er...ok, Bill."

[Thondalar]

Who would have guessed Thondolar used to wear booty shorts to work!

Yep, I'm totally a hot chick. You caught me.

[Ker_Thwap]

From the retail manager's point of view, the perfect retail employee is one that feels some kind of twisted responsibility towards the business and the owner, even when they're being taken advantage of with zero chance of job advancement. Here, have this fluffy sweater thing as a meaningless bonus? Your current boss is a user.

You worked to get paid. You also earned the satisfaction of a job well done. Labor, compensation, it all balanced out. You owe this guy nothing.

Never be the perfect retail employee.

[Ker_Thwap]

Still can't discriminate by race though, that's basically the only caveat...which was fine by me. Two funny stories on this, for different reasons....

Blah blah blah...

"er...ok, Bill."

You should hire the two big girls, take the pics and send them to Bill.

[Androidpk]

Yep, I'm totally a hot chick. You caught me.


Aww yesss, a/s/l???

[Thondalar]

You should hire the two big girls, take the pics and send them to Bill.

Too bad the time frame didn't match up, but that would have been great.

[Thondalar]

Aww tis as, a/s/l???

34/m/FL

[Gnome Rage]

If a certain other poster on this board can get a Social Worker job with no Masters you can damn sure get one with one.

The problem I face is that I'm not yet licensed. While I intend on taking the test and applying for my LCSW, I've been lollygagging when it comes to studying. I'm really worried about taking the test because the questions aren't all application questions. Some of them are things that I have had a hard time remembering, like which person developed which theory. I know the theory, I know how to apply the theory in my work, but I can't for the life of me remember the name of the dude (or lady) that came up with it, who was whose protege etc, etc. A lot of people expanded upon other people's ideas, and one of the questions on my practice test was something along the lines of "which one of these people was the second earliest theorist for this specific theory" meaning, not the guy who actually invented the theory, and not the most recent person to expand upon it, but THE SECOND GUY, who was THE SECOND GUY. So, needless to say, I'm really nervous about taking the test and failing, because it is $200-some-odd to take it in the first place.

I can get a job with just my masters, but I can't legally practice as a clinician.

[Gnome Rage]

From the retail manager's point of view, the perfect retail employee is one that feels some kind of twisted responsibility towards the business and the owner, even when they're being taken advantage of with zero chance of job advancement. Here, have this fluffy sweater thing as a meaningless bonus? Your current boss is a user.

You worked to get paid. You also earned the satisfaction of a job well done. Labor, compensation, it all balanced out. You owe this guy nothing.

Never be the perfect retail employee.I totally am though.

Its really upsetting, I don't know why I feel like I owe him, I guess it is the "family" mentality of the business, but I feel like I'm obligated to waste my life there.

[Androidpk]

34/m/FL

1980 is a great year.

[JackWhisper]

Actually, I want to comment on Thondalar's fat chick story.

My friend here in Cali used to run a Hooters. The store manager *Which I think you are, Thond?*. Anyways, he had to approve the staffing and all that. So he ends up quitting Hooters because he got a MUCH better offer from a different sports bar to come run the entire thing, and some backroom action *themed evenings, bachelor/ette auctions, etc. Very popular thing, actually, here in Sacramento*.

In his first year, he had turned this bar from barely scraping by, to a 43% profit. He was given straight carte blanche to do whatever he wanted to make more profit. Well one month he actually checked his application intake drawer. I was there eating lunch during my break *I did not work there. We're friends.* and he throws down on his desk a solid 30 files and pictures attached and asks me to peruse them with him. I'm telling you, a good 16 of the pictures were big girls. And I won't lie, a few were straight trolls. Trolls and those troll-girls who think they're hot, but look like they ate the ugly tree and it nested in their thighs. But, there were like 10 straight up hot women, varying ethnicities, who were legitimately 6-8/10s and were BIG girls. I'm talking almost 3-4 bills.

So I says to him - Dude. Have a big boys night..... and then I leave.

Not two weeks goes by, and he calls me to the place on a Thursday night and there isn't a fucking skinny broad to be found. You seen thin people make a shop bump yeah? Try having more than 80 large people dancing, grinding, eating, fooding *That's a fetish where not-so-fat people feed REALLY FAT people food so they can enjoy it vicariously. I learned that. Osnap*. and generally screaming and making tons of noise. The girls from the photos, plus a few I didn't see, all varying sizes and ethnicities, though there were a clique of 3 black girls, all very attractive, who were going table to table as servers and asking if anyone needed anything. Cough suggestion cough.

The funniest part of this was that... this was a sports bar. There was football on, hockey, baseball........ except ROFL... yeah... you guessed it. There was a TV wall with Food Network in the corner. I saw that and lost my shit laughing. Like 10 different shows about food going on.

Moral of the story. You wanna work in a sports bar? Be cute. Be sexy. You don't have to be 100lbs. But if that's the demographic, your ass better be damn close or you aint getting hired. If you wanna be a big girl and work there, you better have a sexy face and know how to work your curves. Because you got it harder than a girl that weighs 115 and knows how to dance a pole. #INB4TottiannaHatesMe.

Edited to add: And the evening was a HUGE success. It was included in his bi-monthly events.

[Thondalar]

I totally am though.

Its really upsetting, I don't know why I feel like I owe him, I guess it is the "family" mentality of the business, but I feel like I'm obligated to waste my life there.

Well, stop it. Look after #1.

[JackWhisper]

Well, stop it. Look after #1.

This. Nothing but this. If you have no vested interest or stock/claim/responsibility in the company, then fuck them. You're there for a paycheck. You are not doing what you love. You're doing what you have to, to get by.

[Ker_Thwap]

I totally am though.

Its really upsetting, I don't know why I feel like I owe him, I guess it is the "family" mentality of the business, but I feel like I'm obligated to waste my life there.

So, I've probably told this story, but not for years, so people with a good memory will just have deal with it. I worked my way up to Assistant Deli Manager by the time I was maybe 19ish. I was putting in 70 hour weeks, making decent money, covering shifts, scheduling, ordering, and it was a large enough chain that I could actually have made a career out of it. I had a friendly boss and took my job seriously. Then, I took my first sick day, and my boss told me I could make up the hours on a Saturday, when I had plans to go skiing. Zero flexibility. So, I quit, and I went skiing every day for the rest of that winter. Best winter of my life.

The moral of this story? Don't be a putz. If this guy was remotely your buddy, he'd be thrilled that you're moving on to a real job.

[Ker_Thwap]

1980 is a great year.

34, it's the new 14.

[Thondalar]

Actually, I want to comment on Thondalar's fat chick story.

My friend here in Cali used to run a Hooters. The store manager *Which I think you are, Thond?*. Anyways, he had to approve the staffing and all that. So he ends up quitting Hooters because he got a MUCH better offer from a different sports bar to come run the entire thing, and some backroom action *themed evenings, bachelor/ette auctions, etc. Very popular thing, actually, here in Sacramento*.

In his first year, he had turned this bar from barely scraping by, to a 43% profit. He was given straight carte blanche to do whatever he wanted to make more profit. Well one month he actually checked his application intake drawer. I was there eating lunch during my break *I did not work there. We're friends.* and he throws down on his desk a solid 30 files and pictures attached and asks me to peruse them with him. I'm telling you, a good 16 of the pictures were big girls. And I won't lie, a few were straight trolls. Trolls and those troll-girls who think they're hot, but look like they ate the ugly tree and it nested in their thighs. But, there were like 10 straight up hot women, varying ethnicities, who were legitimately 6-8/10s and were BIG girls. I'm talking almost 3-4 bills.

So I says to him - Dude. Have a big boys night..... and then I leave.

Not two weeks goes by, and he calls me to the place on a Thursday night and there isn't a fucking skinny broad to be found. You seen thin people make a shop bump yeah? Try having more than 80 large people dancing, grinding, eating, fooding *That's a fetish where not-so-fat people feed REALLY FAT people food so they can enjoy it vicariously. I learned that. Osnap*. and generally screaming and making tons of noise. The girls from the photos, plus a few I didn't see, all varying sizes and ethnicities, though there were a clique of 3 black girls, all very attractive, who were going table to table as servers and asking if anyone needed anything. Cough suggestion cough.

The funniest part of this was that... this was a sports bar. There was football on, hockey, baseball........ except ROFL... yeah... you guessed it. There was a TV wall with Food Network in the corner. I saw that and lost my shit laughing. Like 10 different shows about food going on.

Moral of the story. You wanna work in a sports bar? Be cute. Be sexy. You don't have to be 100lbs. But if that's the demographic, your ass better be damn close or you aint getting hired. If you wanna be a big girl and work there, you better have a sexy face and know how to work your curves. Because you got it harder than a girl that weighs 115 and knows how to dance a pole. #INB4TottiannaHatesMe.

"Store manager" would be a term for what I was, yeah. We called it "general manager", most places do, as opposed to "kitchen manager" or "FOH/BOH assistant manager"...

I left Winghouse about 6 months ago to take a "demotion" to kitchen manager ("culinary manager") at a casual-dining steakhouse (Longhorn, not Golden Corral)...pay cut of about 20k annual for a short term, but better benefits and future blah blah...anyway, yeah, I get what you're saying, and that is totally an under-served market. I actually hired a few "thicker" girls while I was at Winghouse...now, keep in mind, we're still not talking anywhere near even 2 bills, let alone 3...considering our average was about a buck 15, I went pretty far off with a few that were in the range of a buck 60...but they were all gorgeous girls. It was difficult finding shorts that would fit most of them, since a "medium" was the largest size our supplier made...but I tell you what, they had more "regulars" than any of the other girls.

[JackWhisper]

"Store manager" would be a term for what I was, yeah. We called it "general manager", most places do, as opposed to "kitchen manager" or "FOH/BOH assistant manager"...

I left Winghouse about 6 months ago to take a "demotion" to kitchen manager ("culinary manager") at a casual-dining steakhouse (Longhorn, not Golden Corral)...pay cut of about 20k annual for a short term, but better benefits and future blah blah...anyway, yeah, I get what you're saying, and that is totally an under-served market. I actually hired a few "thicker" girls while I was at Winghouse...now, keep in mind, we're still not talking anywhere near even 2 bills, let alone 3...considering our average was about a buck 15, I went pretty far off with a few that were in the range of a buck 60...but they were all gorgeous girls. It was difficult finding shorts that would fit most of them, since a "medium" was the largest size our supplier made...but I tell you what, they had more "regulars" than any of the other girls.

Haha. General manager, that sounds about right. My friend had to hire a special...seamstress? Someone to make the special outfits for the bigger girls. They absolutely couldn't find big girl clothing from the outfit supplier their smaller girls used.

Sad part is... he tried *TRIED* unsuccessfully to get an ethnic night going. You know, a night of just Asian servers, a night of just African servers, a night of just *insert race here* servers, etc. It immediately went to racism and got nixed by him before it went onto a newspaper that he was a racist. Really stupid. =(.

You're absolutely right. The market is truly underserved and underdeveloped.

[Thondalar]

Haha. General manager, that sounds about right. My friend had to hire a special...seamstress? Someone to make the special outfits for the bigger girls. They absolutely couldn't find big girl clothing from the outfit supplier their smaller girls used.

Sad part is... he tried *TRIED* unsuccessfully to get an ethnic night going. You know, a night of just Asian servers, a night of just African servers, a night of just *insert race here* servers, etc. It immediately went to racism and got nixed by him before it went onto a newspaper that he was a racist. Really stupid. =(.

You're absolutely right. The market is truly underserved and underdeveloped.

Its only racist because a white man was doing it. Our racial hypersensitivity is creating racial insensitivity.


edit: extraneous hyphen is extraneous.

[Androidpk]

34, it's the new 14.

I laughed

[JackWhisper]

Its only racist because a white man was doing it. Our racial hyper-sensitivity is creating racial insensitivity.

That's totally racist to think I only have a white friend....

Okay so he was white, but still. ROFL. I agree that because he wasn't a different ethnicity, he woulda been labeled racist. =(. I won't lie. I'd have gone to at least 1 of every themed night. That's just a fun evening.

[Warriorbird]

The problem I face is that I'm not yet licensed. While I intend on taking the test and applying for my LCSW, I've been lollygagging when it comes to studying. I'm really worried about taking the test because the questions aren't all application questions. Some of them are things that I have had a hard time remembering, like which person developed which theory. I know the theory, I know how to apply the theory in my work, but I can't for the life of me remember the name of the dude (or lady) that came up with it, who was whose protege etc, etc. A lot of people expanded upon other people's ideas, and one of the questions on my practice test was something along the lines of "which one of these people was the second earliest theorist for this specific theory" meaning, not the guy who actually invented the theory, and not the most recent person to expand upon it, but THE SECOND GUY, who was THE SECOND GUY. So, needless to say, I'm really nervous about taking the test and failing, because it is $200-some-odd to take it in the first place.

I can get a job with just my masters, but I can't legally practice as a clinician.

This is the point where you study your ass off and make the boyfriend help. I'm pretty sure the other GS person I'm thinking of isn't in any way better at taking tests than you. You're worth better than this job.

[Thondalar]

The problem I face is that I'm not yet licensed. While I intend on taking the test and applying for my LCSW, I've been lollygagging when it comes to studying. I'm really worried about taking the test because the questions aren't all application questions. Some of them are things that I have had a hard time remembering, like which person developed which theory. I know the theory, I know how to apply the theory in my work, but I can't for the life of me remember the name of the dude (or lady) that came up with it, who was whose protege etc, etc. A lot of people expanded upon other people's ideas, and one of the questions on my practice test was something along the lines of "which one of these people was the second earliest theorist for this specific theory" meaning, not the guy who actually invented the theory, and not the most recent person to expand upon it, but THE SECOND GUY, who was THE SECOND GUY. So, needless to say, I'm really nervous about taking the test and failing, because it is $200-some-odd to take it in the first place.

I can get a job with just my masters, but I can't legally practice as a clinician.

Seems to me like you've already accomplished the majority of the work required, you just need to polish up the details. Quit making excuses and get'er done.

[Gnome Rage]

This is the point where you study your ass off and make the boyfriend help. I'm pretty sure the other GS person I'm thinking of isn't in any way better at taking tests than you. You're worth better than this job.

I know what I SHOULD do, it is just hard to make myself do it. -___-

Instead, I'm taking association tests by Harvard because Reddit told me to, and I've found out I'm not racist and I have zero association between male/female and career/family.
THERE ARE SO MANY OF THESE TESTS AND THEY ARE SO FUN.

[Thondalar]

That's totally racist to think I only have a white friend....

Okay so he was white, but still. ROFL. I agree that because he wasn't a different ethnicity, he woulda been labeled racist. =(. I won't lie. I'd have gone to at least 1 of every themed night. That's just a fun evening.

Its not a party 'till you get some huge drunk black girls involved. I harken back to the days when I was a young hillbilly, filled with my grandfather's vitriol. Nothing large doses of hallucinogens with a bunch of gay dudes couldn't fix. Life is wonderful...share it with whomever will let you.

[Gnome Rage]

Seems to me like you've already accomplished the majority of the work required, you just need to polish up the details. Quit making excuses and get'er done.
-whiny voice-

but I DONT WANNAAAAA.

Studying is BORING.

and I'm "a little oppositional" according to my social worker (who I was talking to about this, today). I told her, "Its hard for me to commit things to memory that I don't really think are important to practice, ex: knowing the guy's name that developed a theory when I know the theory and can apply the theory".

[Androidpk]

I know what I SHOULD do, it is just hard to make myself do it. -___-

Instead, I'm taking association tests by Harvard because Reddit told me to, and I've found out I'm not racist and I have zero association between male/female and career/family.
THERE ARE SO MANY OF THESE TESTS AND THEY ARE SO FUN.

Weird, I had you pegged as a complete racist.

[Thondalar]

I know what I SHOULD do, it is just hard to make myself do it. -___-

That's what being a big kid is all about. Making the tough decisions because you know its the right thing to do, and seeing it through.

[Thondalar]

-whiny voice-

but I DONT WANNAAAAA.

Studying is BORING.

and I'm "a little oppositional" according to my social worker (who I was talking to about this, today). I told her, "Its hard for me to commit things to memory that I don't really think are important to practice, ex: knowing the guy's name that developed a theory when I know the theory and can apply the theory".

Hrmm. Perhaps you're right. I don't think you're ready for a big kid job.

[Gnome Rage]

Weird, I had you pegged as a complete racist.

One time I said the N word, because my friends made me say it. (My black friends, heheheheheehe)

they thought it was really funny.

I was fucking mortified.

[Warriorbird]

I know what I SHOULD do, it is just hard to make myself do it. -___-

Instead, I'm taking association tests by Harvard because Reddit told me to, and I've found out I'm not racist and I have zero association between male/female and career/family.
THERE ARE SO MANY OF THESE TESTS AND THEY ARE SO FUN.

I make my Psychology class take those. They're entertaining.

[Gnome Rage]

Just took a 10 question practice test, got 8 out of 10 right. TRICKY PEOPLE

I was close on both answers, but didn't pick QUITE the right one :|

so discouraging :{



I make my Psychology class take those. They're entertaining.

Seriously so fun.

[Gnome Rage]

Side note: My therapist is the one that wants me to apply where I am deciding to apply, I looked at the board members for the adolescent/child program (which is what I'd want to be in) and one of them is her husband. Because of confidentiality, I don't think she can tell him that I am her client, but I wonder if she encouraged me to apply here BECAUSE he is in the program and she has some way of greasing the wheels for me. I know she also works there, but at a program that I don't really want to be part of. I've always wondered how it works when social workers see other social workers, it is a common practice because of the high burn out rate in the profession.

She also indicated she wants me to take the licensing exam next month... :X

[Androidpk]

Side note: My therapist is the one that wants me to apply where I am deciding to apply, I looked at the board members for the adolescent/child program (which is what I'd want to be in) and one of them is her husband. Because of confidentiality, I don't think she can tell him that I am her client, but I wonder if she encouraged me to apply here BECAUSE he is in the program and she has some way of greasing the wheels for me. I know she also works there, but at a program that I don't really want to be part of. I've always wondered how it works when social workers see other social workers, it is a common practice because of the high burn out rate in the profession.

She also indicated she wants me to take the licensing exam next month... :X

Unleash those massive balls of yours and do it!

[JackWhisper]

Unleash those massive balls of yours and do it!

I'm quoting this for future usage. There are so many situations on PC where this will be a perfect drop quote. Haha.

[Gnome Rage]

I like big baaawls.

[Thondalar]

Side note: My therapist is the one that wants me to apply where I am deciding to apply, I looked at the board members for the adolescent/child program (which is what I'd want to be in) and one of them is her husband. Because of confidentiality, I don't think she can tell him that I am her client, but I wonder if she encouraged me to apply here BECAUSE he is in the program and she has some way of greasing the wheels for me. I know she also works there, but at a program that I don't really want to be part of. I've always wondered how it works when social workers see other social workers, it is a common practice because of the high burn out rate in the profession.

She also indicated she wants me to take the licensing exam next month... :X

Unless HIPAA has changed since the last time I had to deal with it, she would be able to tell him that you're a client, but she couldn't discuss any of your issues and/or treatment.



edit: also, in this case, she could leave that completely out and just be like "hey, I know this person" as like, a personal reference. You will find that this is quite common in "big kid" jobs...the old adage "It's not what you know, but who you know" is still very much applicable.

edit edit: Also, now that I think about it, she probably could tell her husband everything about you...spousal privilege would negate any chance of it ever coming to light, legally anyway.

[JackWhisper]

I like big baaawls.

Aaaand another quote goes into the vault.

Mwahaha!

[Androidpk]

I like big baaawls.


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/37/BAWLS_Guarana.jpg

[Gnome Rage]

In HS a friend of a friend had a BAWLS shirt, because he knew someone who worked for the company. He fought so hard to be allowed to wear it in school.

[JackWhisper]

PK what the hell. That bottle has bumps. Does it double as a dildo?

[Gnome Rage]

All good bottles do.

[Thondalar]

All good bottles do.

...

[Thondalar]

All good bottles do.

Don't forget most of us here have already seen you naked, that's just a tease.

[JackWhisper]

All good bottles do.

.....:kisses: :rah:

[JackWhisper]

Don't forget most of us here have already seen you naked, that's just a tease.

WHY THE FUCK DO I MISS THIS SHIT EVERY GOD DAMNED TIME?!?!?!?!??! :chair:

[JackWhisper]

Don't forget most of us here have already seen you naked, that's just a tease.

BLAH! :argue:

[Androidpk]

WHY THE FUCK DO I MISS THIS SHIT EVERY GOD DAMNED TIME?!?!?!?!??! :chair:

I know right??

[Gnome Rage]

I'm just fucking wit'ch'all.

[Thondalar]

WHY THE FUCK DO I MISS THIS SHIT EVERY GOD DAMNED TIME?!?!?!?!??! :chair:

This was like, years ago...out of respect for GR I won't disclose the particulars now, since I believe she has moved on from her previous indiscretions. Sorry you missed it. :(

[subzero]

Nothing large doses of hallucinogens with a bunch of gay dudes couldn't fix. Life is wonderful...share it with whomever will let you.

This probably deserves a safe spot here.

[Tisket]

Side note: My therapist is the one that wants me to apply where I am deciding to apply, I looked at the board members for the adolescent/child program (which is what I'd want to be in) and one of them is her husband. Because of confidentiality, I don't think she can tell him that I am her client, but I wonder if she encouraged me to apply here BECAUSE he is in the program and she has some way of greasing the wheels for me. I know she also works there, but at a program that I don't really want to be part of. I've always wondered how it works when social workers see other social workers, it is a common practice because of the high burn out rate in the profession.

She also indicated she wants me to take the licensing exam next month... :X

I've never had therapy but, aren't therapists supposed to avoid giving advice or pushing a client in a particular direction like that? I thought they were supposed to foster independent thought, not push their own ideas onto a vulnerable person.

[JackWhisper]

I've never had therapy but, aren't therapists supposed to avoid giving advice or pushing a client in a particular direction like that? I thought they were supposed to foster independent thought, not push their own ideas onto a vulnerable person.

But how does that make YOU feel, Tisket? What do YOU think about this??

[Gnome Rage]

I've never had therapy but, aren't therapists supposed to avoid giving advice or pushing a client in a particular direction like that? I thought they were supposed to foster independent thought, not push their own ideas onto a vulnerable person.

You're correct for the most part. It depends on the client, it depends on the situation. In this situation, I would be a client that needs to be pushed in certain ways. She gave me a big list of all the places that I can apply in the area and encouraged one place over the others because it isn't a residential program (meaning it has the availability of hours I want), it is one of the biggest programs in the area (meaning I could work in various towns in the county because it is a county-wide program and serves pretty much every age) and has the ability for upward movement (meaning I can apply with just my MSW and when I get my license there will be a place for me to work). She has encouraged me applying at various places, but because of certain things that we discuss in therapy, she encouraged this place more because it is a better fit for what I am looking for. That isn't the same as telling a pregnant girl what to do with the unborn fetus, she is using professional knowledge and information to try to guide me within the confines of my own decision.

[Bobmuhthol]

I think this thread is wonderful juxtaposed with prior posts by the author about how she would outearn all of us and be a real pioneer in her field. Any day now.

[AnticorRifling]

Threads like this are why you're working in retail with a masters. You got a piece of paper but you didn't learn anything.

[Androidpk]

Threads like this are why you're working in retail with a masters. You got a piece of paper but you didn't learn anything.

Yeah, it's terrible that a hard working girl with multiple college degrees is a bit nervous about growing her career.

[Taernath]

Yeah, it's terrible that a hard working girl with multiple college degrees is a bit nervous about growing her career.

It's a valid criticism though. How did she skate through college, getting a master's and hold down multiple jobs without knowing the basics of resume or professional writing? That shit is drilled into your head by the time you finish your undergraduate.

[AnticorRifling]

Yeah, it's terrible that a hard working girl with multiple college degrees is a bit nervous about growing her career.

I agree it is terrible that someone with multiple college degrees doesn't understand the very basics.

[Androidpk]

It's a valid criticism though. How did she skate through college, getting a master's and hold down multiple jobs without knowing the basics of resume or professional writing? That shit is drilled into your head by the time you finish your undergraduate.

Did she say she doesn't know how to write? As for learning to write a resume I don't see it as a big deal and certainly not the sort of issue I think is worth criticizing someone over for asking for help. Comes across as incredibly petty.

[Johnny Five]

Did she say she doesn't know how to write? As for learning to write a resume I don't see it as a big deal and certainly not the sort of issue I think is worth criticizing someone over for asking for help. Comes across as incredibly petty.

http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/ab/abb5225a0cbea0c1bc370168574dea4f9be8a30b9b3d9ee34e 58cf35a3583cdc.jpg

[Keller]

Don't you need to be an adult before getting a big-kid job?

[Androidpk]

http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/ab/abb5225a0cbea0c1bc370168574dea4f9be8a30b9b3d9ee34e 58cf35a3583cdc.jpg

Not very valid.

[Johnny Five]

Seems pretty valid to me.

[AnticorRifling]

Not very valid.

Valid and on point. Had a poster with a penis started this thread you're responses would be completely different.

[Androidpk]

Valid and on point. Had a poster with a penis started this thread you're responses would be completely different.

No it wouldn't have.

[Ker_Thwap]

I'm going to try to be polite, and I'll probably fail.

On one hand, GR's situation dovetails neatly into some of my beliefs/observations. Bob and Anticor aren't wrong. This is what happens when you're handed shit, instead of learning to fix your shit at the base level. Some goofy, borderline learning disability with method of data retention, so she was allowed to function under her own set of rules regarding laptops/test time frames. This kind of clinging to an excuse for why one failed as a child, and shopping for a diagnosis doesn't do people any favors for the long run. Instead of playing to one's strengths, working harder, working smarter, overcoming one's flaws... today's society just hands people doctors notes saying little Timmy can't win this race, let him start the race early, so he appears to finish around the same time as the other kids. It's the whole everybody gets a trophy. Kids are handed false self esteem. Instead of earning, and being proud of an honest third place, everybody wins. This does them no favors.

On the other hand, GR is not an asshole, at least not to me, so I'm not really into the whole dog pile on her when she's down. She's finally taking some responsibility, trying to get healthy and trying to meet some personal goals. Rather than laugh at her mistakes, I'd rather just keep on giving my "take control of your own life" advice. Yeah, people laugh at the bootstrappy advice these days, but in the long run, it's proven to be a pretty effective and dare I say compassionate method of getting oneself right. You may not get first place in the race, but you'll have done your best and earned your place.

[AnticorRifling]

I like how the person with the social worker degrees thinks that people working retail aren't real people. This thread is full of awesome.

[waywardgs]

It's a valid criticism though. How did she skate through college, getting a master's and hold down multiple jobs without knowing the basics of resume or professional writing? That shit is drilled into your head by the time you finish your undergraduate.

I never took any resume writing courses in college... Don't think I ever saw any offered, for that matter.

[AnticorRifling]

I never took any resume writing courses in college... Don't think I ever saw any offered, for that matter.

I get weekly emails for resume, cover letter, professional writing type workshops offered for free through my university.

[Ker_Thwap]

I never took any resume writing courses in college... Don't think I ever saw any offered, for that matter.

They never even mentioned resume writing in my college, however I did learn to use a library on my own. These days you have the opportunity to take a 101 course in research methods. Now there's the freakin internet. I'm baffled when someone confesses not to know the general basics of anything these days.

[Ker_Thwap]

They never even mentioned resume writing in my college, however I did learn to use a library on my own. You know, physically walking to a building through the snow, and digging out some reference book. These days you have the opportunity to take a 101 course in research methods. Now there's the freakin internet. I'm baffled when someone confesses not to know the general basics of anything these days.

Edit: Uphill, both ways!

[Ker_Thwap]

Clicky buttons on a forum, how do they work?

[subzero]

Clicky buttons on a forum, how do they work?

Google that shit!

[Taernath]

I never took any resume writing courses in college... Don't think I ever saw any offered, for that matter.

I took one, but to be honest it didn't teach me a lot that I didn't already know from holding previous jobs. There were also multiple free resume workshops that I could have gone to if I wanted or needed to. The big thing was applying for graduate school, that was a lot more in depth than applying a 'big kid job'.

[Fallen]

Consider joining the military. You have a degree so you would come in as an officer. You'd get on the job experience, make great contacts, and get to do some good by serving your country. Plus, you'll earn additional money for school if you wish to go back after your term of service.

[Wrathbringer]

Consider joining the military. You have a degree so you would come in as an officer. You'd get on the job experience, make great contacts, and get to do some good by serving your country. Plus, you'll earn additional money for school if you wish to go back after your term of service.

You forgot to mention the added bonus of the possibility of losing your life or taking someone else's that you don't even know because rich people said to. What a deal! Seriously, don't throw your life away. There is always a better option than the military.

[AnticorRifling]

You forgot to mention the added bonus of the possibility of losing your life or taking someone else's that you don't even know because rich people said to. What a deal! Seriously, don't throw your life away. There is always a better option than the military.

I heard you can't die in the civilian sector, excellent point.

[Tgo01]

I heard you can't die in the civilian sector, excellent point.

Someone should mentioned that factoid again that roofers have the most dangerous job in America.

[Wrathbringer]

I heard you can't die in the civilian sector, excellent point.

I heard you're incapable of crafting a valid analogy, horrible analogy.

[Wrathbringer]

Someone should mentioned that factoid again that roofers have the most dangerous job in America.

No doubt due to all the roofing factions killing each other because someone told them to. Right, anticor? Cause it's the same thing 1!

[Taernath]

I heard you can't die in the civilian sector, excellent point.

http://terminallance.com/wp-content/uploads/comics/2011-10-25-Strip_157_War_and_Peace_web.gif

Seriously though, military is great. It'll kill your anxiety/shyness and give you experience and money.

[AnticorRifling]

No doubt due to all the roofing factions killing each other because someone told them to. Right, anticor? Cause it's the same thing 1!

Because rich people told them to get on the roofs!! Right Wrath? Cause it's the same thing one!

[Wrathbringer]

Because rich people told them to get on the roofs!! Right Wrath? Cause it's the same thing one!

When you come up with a valid rebuttal (or have someone help you with one), I'll be delighted to troll it. Until then, you're just not making any sense.

[Keller]

The obvious answer is that GR should become a roofer.

[Tisket]

Consider joining the military. You have a degree so you would come in as an officer. You'd get on the job experience, make great contacts, and get to do some good by serving your country. Plus, you'll earn additional money for school if you wish to go back after your term of service.

GR needs someone telling her what to do so it'd be a good choice as long as she stays at the very lowest rung. If she was an officer however, God help anyone that had to rely on her for decision making.

[Taernath]

The obvious answer is that GR should become a roofer.

I don't think her stats are high enough to dual class roofer.

[Wrathbringer]

I don't think her stats are high enough to dual class roofer.

And likely doesn't drink enough to qualify.

[Tisket]

When you come up with a valid rebuttal (or have someone help you with one), I'll be delighted to troll it. Until then, you're just not making any sense.

It was valid. And he doesn't need help against the likes of you.

An infant wouldn't need help against you.

[AnticorRifling]

When you come up with a valid rebuttal (or have someone help you with one), I'll be delighted to troll it. Until then, you're just not making any sense.

I didn't think we were trying to make sense (by following your lead) besides, your attempts at trolling are way too try hard for my taste. You gotta work on that subtle style.

[Wrathbringer]

I didn't think we were trying to make sense (by following your lead) besides, your attempts at trolling are way too try hard for my taste. You gotta work on that subtle style.

It's difficult to find a subtle method of pointing out that the military is for the poor and weak minded, since by definition these folks are bad at critical thinking. I'm trying to save her life and you're encouraging the suicide bomber mentality. Yeah people die, maybe you, but it's worth it!!!1

[Gnome Rage]

God I regret making this thread.

Guys, I've had a resume since I was 15 years old and applied for my first job. I update it regularly. I've just never applied for a job as anything but a sales person or a RA and I was looking for advice from a group of people who have worked in other fields, and have hired people previously. I was looking for advice because I've never applied for anything like this before and I was nervous about it. I know how to write a cover letter, I know how to fill out an application, I don't know how to deal with the logistics of leaving one job for another, as I've never actually had to do that before. My first job was bought out by CVS, and closed. My second job functioned on a yearly re-hire process, and my third job ended when I moved and transferred "within the company". I've never had to quit anything before, and that was the main concern. It snowballed because I got anxious and I stopped actually thinking things through before asking questions. Yes, if I had stopped for a second and thought about it, I would have realized that I can attach my resume to my application and explain my internships there, but I didn't, because I didn't expect to be attacked for asking questions, even if they were dumb. I thought that because some of you have children, and all of you have more life experience than me that you might actually be helpful, but instead most of you have just made me doubt myself more and feel like shit. So I regret making the thread, you've succeeded and I feel like an idiot. Congratulations.

[AnticorRifling]

God I regret making this thread.

Guys, I've had a resume since I was 15 years old and applied for my first job. I update it regularly. I've just never applied for a job as anything but a sales person or a RA and I was looking for advice from a group of people who have worked in other fields, and have hired people previously. I was looking for advice because I've never applied for anything like this before and I was nervous about it. I know how to write a cover letter, I know how to fill out an application, I don't know how to deal with the logistics of leaving one job for another, as I've never actually had to do that before. My first job was bought out by CVS, and closed. My second job functioned on a yearly re-hire process, and my third job ended when I moved and transferred "within the company". I've never had to quit anything before, and that was the main concern. It snowballed because I got anxious and I stopped actually thinking things through before asking questions. Yes, if I had stopped for a second and thought about it, I would have realized that I can attach my resume to my application and explain my internships there, but I didn't, because I didn't expect to be attacked for asking questions, even if they were dumb. I thought that because some of you have children, and all of you have more life experience than me that you might actually be helpful, but instead most of you have just made me doubt myself more and feel like shit. So I regret making the thread, you've succeeded and I feel like an idiot. Congratulations.

That's the spirit.

[Tgo01]

God I regret making this thread.

Guys, I've had a resume since I was 15 years old and applied for my first job. I update it regularly. I've just never applied for a job as anything but a sales person or a RA and I was looking for advice from a group of people who have worked in other fields, and have hired people previously. I was looking for advice because I've never applied for anything like this before and I was nervous about it. I know how to write a cover letter, I know how to fill out an application, I don't know how to deal with the logistics of leaving one job for another, as I've never actually had to do that before. My first job was bought out by CVS, and closed. My second job functioned on a yearly re-hire process, and my third job ended when I moved and transferred "within the company". I've never had to quit anything before, and that was the main concern. It snowballed because I got anxious and I stopped actually thinking things through before asking questions. Yes, if I had stopped for a second and thought about it, I would have realized that I can attach my resume to my application and explain my internships there, but I didn't, because I didn't expect to be attacked for asking questions, even if they were dumb. I thought that because some of you have children, and all of you have more life experience than me that you might actually be helpful, but instead most of you have just made me doubt myself more and feel like shit. So I regret making the thread, you've succeeded and I feel like an idiot. Congratulations.

I don't think people were giving you shit for asking questions but rather the way you carried yourself in this thread. The thread title says you want a "big kid job", you said at least a couple of times you're scared of growing up and you have no idea what you're doing.

Sometimes life is hard, being a college graduate and being afraid to grow up isn't exactly going to prepare for the more difficult life situations you'll face.

You'll be fine, GR. You finished college, you're ready for the world, but first you have to stop letting some comments from people on an internet forum cause you to doubt yourself.

[AnticorRifling]

It's difficult to find a subtle method of pointing out that the military is for the poor and weak minded, since by definition these folks are bad at critical thinking. I'm trying to save her life and you're encouraging the suicide bomber mentality. Yeah people die, maybe you, but it's worth it!!!1

Like I said, you are way too try hard in your attempts to troll.

[Wrathbringer]

Like I said, you are way too try hard in your attempts to troll.

I take it you're prior service. That explains the poor grammar.

[Latrinsorm]

Threads like this are why you're working in retail with a masters. You got a piece of paper but you didn't learn anything.What GR needed to handle this situation was explained to her in two sentences. If you think you can explain all the technical expertise she learned with her Master's in a similar length, go right ahead.
On one hand, GR's situation dovetails neatly into some of my beliefs/observations. Bob and Anticor aren't wrong. This is what happens when you're handed shit, instead of learning to fix your shit at the base level. Some goofy, borderline learning disability with method of data retention, so she was allowed to function under her own set of rules regarding laptops/test time frames. This kind of clinging to an excuse for why one failed as a child, and shopping for a diagnosis doesn't do people any favors for the long run. Instead of playing to one's strengths, working harder, working smarter, overcoming one's flaws... today's society just hands people doctors notes saying little Timmy can't win this race, let him start the race early, so he appears to finish around the same time as the other kids. It's the whole everybody gets a trophy. Kids are handed false self esteem. Instead of earning, and being proud of an honest third place, everybody wins. This does them no favors.I hope you never have to learn how clueless you are about mental health.

[Tei]

I didn't expect to be attacked for asking questions, even if they were dumb.

For someone that has been a member here since 2010 I can't believe you were surprised by the responses.

PC'ers don't hold back with their opinions when someone acts dumb surely you knew that.


..but instead most of you have just made me doubt myself more and feel like shit. So I regret making the thread, you've succeeded and I feel like an idiot. Congratulations.

Clearly this forum is not the best environment for you.

[AnticorRifling]

I take it you're prior service. That explains the poor grammar.

Damn, that was bad even for me.

[AnticorRifling]

What GR needed to handle this situation was explained to her in two sentences. If you think you can explain all the technical expertise she learned with her Master's in a similar length, go right ahead. I'm pretty sure I did.

[Wrathbringer]

Damn, that was bad even for me.

I give up. Well played.

[Latrinsorm]

I'm pretty sure I did.I rest my case.

[Wrathbringer]

I'm pretty sure I did.


I rest my case.

/Latrinsormed.

[Methais]

I'm concerned about telling my current boss that I'm looking for other employment, when I picked up the second job that I have, he kind of freaked out. When should I tell him I'm looking for a real-adult job, how do I do it?

:| I have a few applications I'm working on filling out, but I haven't submitted anything yet because I'll have to use him as a reference, obviously, and I know I need to tell him that I'm planning to leave.

Tell him you're putting in your notice after you find another job and nothing else.

And if he's that scared about you quitting, tell him he always has the option to pay you enough money to stay.

[Gelston]

Just work there for the rest of your life until you become old and haggard.

[Ker_Thwap]

I hope you never have to learn how clueless you are about mental health.

Mental health is an industry, a big ugly self perpetuating industry.

[waywardgs]

Mental health is an industry, a big ugly self perpetuating industry.

Thanks, Tom Cruise, for your expertise! Can you jump on a couch now?

[Tisket]

God I regret making this thread.

Guys, I've had a resume since I was 15 years old and applied for my first job. I update it regularly. I've just never applied for a job as anything but a sales person or a RA and I was looking for advice from a group of people who have worked in other fields, and have hired people previously. I was looking for advice because I've never applied for anything like this before and I was nervous about it. I know how to write a cover letter, I know how to fill out an application, I don't know how to deal with the logistics of leaving one job for another, as I've never actually had to do that before. My first job was bought out by CVS, and closed. My second job functioned on a yearly re-hire process, and my third job ended when I moved and transferred "within the company". I've never had to quit anything before, and that was the main concern. It snowballed because I got anxious and I stopped actually thinking things through before asking questions. Yes, if I had stopped for a second and thought about it, I would have realized that I can attach my resume to my application and explain my internships there, but I didn't, because I didn't expect to be attacked for asking questions, even if they were dumb. I thought that because some of you have children, and all of you have more life experience than me that you might actually be helpful, but instead most of you have just made me doubt myself more and feel like shit. So I regret making the thread, you've succeeded and I feel like an idiot. Congratulations.

Oh boo hoo. If you feel like an idiot, there's good cause for it.

You aren't an innocent victim. If I posted the shit you post I'd get the same treatment. No, I take it back, I'd get worse treatment. I think people have been very tolerant of you so far and even encouraging but go ahead and have your little selt-pitying tantrum just don't expect it to change anyone's opinions.

And did you honestly think you could guilt out the PC? Seriously?

lmao

[Tisket]

I hope you never have to learn how clueless you are about mental health.

And I hope you recognize how extreme your opinions are regarding mental health.

[ZeP]

I can't wait to go to work and declare to everyone that I'm fucking amazing and the world is bullshit. I live it. Bitches like Tisket ain't shit.

[Tisket]

I can't wait to go to work and declare to everyone that I'm fucking amazing and the world is bullshit. I live it. Bitches like Tisket ain't shit.

Drinking and drugs don't mix, children.

[Tisket]

This thread just took a turn into the Twilight Zone.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVSRm80WzZk

[ZeP]

No, you just rely on a male gamer niche for popularity. You're not actually one of the hot girls. Sorry.

[Tisket]

No, you just rely on a male gamer niche for popularity. You're not actually one of the hot girls. Sorry.

Awww man, I'm crushed.

Really, I am.

Also, stop stereotyping male gamers.

[ZeP]

You're old and ugly.

Really, you are.

[Tisket]

Decrepit.

[Tisket]

Whatever happened to competent trolls anyway? It's like lately they are all moronic and uninteresting.

Blah.

edit: although, it seems ZeP only charges in with his particular brand of stupidity when GR is being taunted. It's White Knight to the rescue! Got it.

[ZeP]

Are you stating that you are decrepit? More likely you are trying to disengage me with a variable reply.

[Tisket]

Are you stating that you are decrepit? More likely you are trying to disengage me with a variable reply.

Yes.

[ZeP]

I'm not trolling, I do believe that you are intellectually inferior and rely on a female gamer rarity crutch.

[ZeP]

Even Nuadjha Wolf or whatever called you out on it before you guys teamed up in the Shattered environment. You are not hot. You are a girl in a text game environment who gets some bonuses for rarity.

[Tisket]

Even Nuadjha Wolf or whatever called you out on it before you guys teamed up in the Shattered environment. You are not hot. You are a girl in a text game environment who gets some bonuses for rarity.

lolwut? omg, you were in Marlu and that's why you like to troll me. HAHAHAHAHA.

[ZeP]

Nope, try again, I wasn't in your Shattered drama but I do know of it.

[Tisket]

omg, that's just priceless. All these years later.

[Tisket]

I can't stop laughing. Someone from Marlu carried a grudge all this time. Oh my god. Seriously funny shit right there.

[ZeP]

All right, now you're coming off even more brain dead than ever. Do you really think I was against you in Shattered or that I just remember what happened because I can read the board?

[Tisket]

I think you were a part of Marlu and you've carried this grudge ever since.

So hilarious.

[Tisket]

Also, just to clarify, I don't play any games now. Zero. Zilch. Zip.

Not sure what that does to your gamer girl theory.

[ZeP]

I think you were a part of Marlu and you've carried this grudge ever since.

So hilarious.

Quoted for truth.

I'm done.

I think the Marlu, Shattered, etc records will speak for themselves.

I only lasted in Shattered until I fried and the Thrak gave his speech.

[Taernath]

Tisket really is a gamer girl, I saw her stream once.

http://i1347.photobucket.com/albums/p712/dtbrown082/stream_zpsjcm95zoh.jpg

[Ker_Thwap]

Thanks, Tom Cruise, for your expertise! Can you jump on a couch now?

Too obscure for me. I tend to avoid his movies and don't read People magazine. I did like that chick in Risky Business, she was hot.

[Geijon Khyree]

This thread turned into a trap quickly.

[Ker_Thwap]

This thread turned into a trap quickly.

It's what I love about the PC. Every thread turns into something new and unexpected!

[SHAFT]

24 is the new 14.

Isn't that the truth.

[Tgo01]

Wait, Tisket is a chick?

[Latrinsorm]

And I hope you recognize how extreme your opinions are regarding mental health.Extremely right, I know. :D
Mental health is an industry, a big ugly self perpetuating industry.There is no difference between mental health and physical health. The only coherent positions are to believe in both or neither.

[Tgo01]

The only coherent positions are to believe in both or neither.

I don't believe in either. Where is your God now?

[Ker_Thwap]

Extremely right, I know. :DThere is no difference between mental health and physical health. The only coherent positions are to believe in both or neither.

You suck at logic, and at debating.

[Ysamine]

You never tell your current boss you're looking for another job.

I always have been upfront about looking for another job and it's never caused a problem. Some bosses realized that if they wanted to keep me, they had to offer something more.

It isn't something that you HAVE to do of course, but I guess I'm old school because I still appreciate courtesy and I try to give it.

[Latrinsorm]

You suck at logic, and at debating.I got an A* in logic! :) From a Scotsman, though...

Anyway, I stand by what I originally said.

[Warriorbird]

I can't stop laughing. Someone from Marlu carried a grudge all this time. Oh my god. Seriously funny shit right there.

Shattered is a serious business.

[Johnny Five]

Tisket really is a gamer girl, I saw her stream once.

http://i1347.photobucket.com/albums/p712/dtbrown082/stream_zpsjcm95zoh.jpg

Streaming GS. I almost fucking died laughing. Well played.

[elcidcannon]

Yeah but I imagine there's plenty of dude who'd tune in.

[Gelston]

Btw, El Cid had ZERO CANNONS PAL.

[elcidcannon]

My last name is Cannon, and I graduated from The Citadel (nicknamed "El Cid").

THANKS, CHIEF.

[Atlanteax]

I like how the person with the social worker degrees thinks that people working retail aren't real people. This thread is full of awesome.

hence http://notalwaysright.com/ being full of stories of people working retail not being treated as real people.

[Atlanteax]

God I regret making this thread.

Guys, I've had a resume since I was 15 years old and applied for my first job. I update it regularly. I've just never applied for a job as anything but a sales person or a RA and I was looking for advice from a group of people who have worked in other fields, and have hired people previously. I was looking for advice because I've never applied for anything like this before and I was nervous about it. I know how to write a cover letter, I know how to fill out an application, I don't know how to deal with the logistics of leaving one job for another, as I've never actually had to do that before. My first job was bought out by CVS, and closed. My second job functioned on a yearly re-hire process, and my third job ended when I moved and transferred "within the company". I've never had to quit anything before, and that was the main concern. It snowballed because I got anxious and I stopped actually thinking things through before asking questions. Yes, if I had stopped for a second and thought about it, I would have realized that I can attach my resume to my application and explain my internships there, but I didn't, because I didn't expect to be attacked for asking questions, even if they were dumb. I thought that because some of you have children, and all of you have more life experience than me that you might actually be helpful, but instead most of you have just made me doubt myself more and feel like shit. So I regret making the thread, you've succeeded and I feel like an idiot. Congratulations.

No wonder you are in therapy.

In the meantime, how do you expect to be an effective social worker, helping others, if you cannot help yourself?

[Ker_Thwap]

No wonder you are in therapy.

In the meantime, how do you expect to be an effective social worker, helping others, if you cannot help yourself?

Please, social workers are just as screwed up as any other profession, probably more so.

[subzero]

In the meantime, how do you expect to be an effective social worker, helping others, if you cannot help yourself?

This has boggled my mind as well.

[Back]

Just be honest. They can and will find someone to replace you.

This is about you. It is nice you are concerned about them but ultimately, as life goes, you need to take care of you before anyone else.

[Methais]

Just be honest. They can and will find someone to replace you.

This is about you. It is nice you are concerned about them but ultimately, as life goes, you need to take care of you before anyone else.

Not to mention her boss would probably send her packing the second someone better came along anyway.

More money is the only thing that should keep you loyal to an employer in almost every situation.

[Back]

Better to be honest than burn bridges. People respect honesty.

[JackWhisper]

Better to be honest than burn bridges. People respect honesty.

Her boss is the kind of guy that will blame her for leaving, saying she's burning the bridge. Honesty won't matter. Apologies won't matter. Logic won't matter. All the guy is going to see is his bottom line in danger. Scumbaaaaaagggggg.

[Tgo01]

Really though, unless you plan on working there again does it really matter if you're burning your bridges? You have a degree in a totally unrelated field, right?

I can understand being worried about leaving the guy without a worker but trust me, he will replace you.

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Her boss is the kind of guy that will blame her for leaving, saying she's burning the bridge. Honesty won't matter. Apologies won't matter. Logic won't matter. All the guy is going to see is his bottom line in danger. Scumbaaaaaagggggg.

Well, thats jumping to certain, YOUR, conclusions.

Honesty goes way more far than deceit.

[JackWhisper]

Well, thats jumping to certain, YOUR, conclusions.

Honesty goes way more far than deceit.

If he flipped out about her Wednesday second job, precedence has been set for him being unreasonable about her exploring other options.

[Latrinsorm]

No wonder you are in therapy.

In the meantime, how do you expect to be an effective social worker, helping others, if you cannot help yourself?A neurosurgeon doesn't operate on themselves either, yet many can be quite effective at their job.

[Gelston]

A neurosurgeon doesn't operate on themselves either, yet many can be quite effective at their job.

A shitty one doesn't.

[Ker_Thwap]

A shitty one doesn't.

That's the spirit! Sprinkles are for winners.

[JackWhisper]

A neurosurgeon doesn't operate on themselves either, yet many can be quite effective at their job.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bP_40M8uhpU

[Latrinsorm]

Jim Carrey is an orthopedic surgeon. Completely different principle.

[iJin]

So all I got from this thread is that someone who is supposed to be..24...got a degree in something that's not useful...asking for resume help...doesn't wanna quit job cause of feelings...doesn't know how to get a real job...and then Ticket streaming GS and I never watched?

FFS. Tisket, invitation next time please. :( Host it on Omegle so I can say inappropriate things without you knowing it's me.

[Bobmuhthol]

Yeah, it's terrible that a hard working girl with multiple college degrees is a bit nervous about growing her career.We understand that you're still emotionally attached to the girl you fucked. It's clouding your judgement.

Oh and Gnome Rage's LinkedIn is fucking atrocious in case anyone is curious.

[iJin]

Hi Alex, I'm glad you're still alive. Brings me joy to my stone heart.

[JackWhisper]

We understand that you're still emotionally attached to the girl you fucked. It's clouding your judgement.

Wait wait WAIT.

PK had sex with GnomeRage?

Don't believe it. No!

[Bobmuhthol]

Hi Alex, I'm glad you're still alive. Brings me joy to my stone heart.Yo girl :heart:

[Warriorbird]

We understand that you're still emotionally attached to the girl you fucked. It's clouding your judgement.

Oh and Gnome Rage's LinkedIn is fucking atrocious in case anyone is curious.

http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20150106213851/epicrapbattlesofhistory/images/c/ce/Shots_fired.gif

[Bobmuhthol]

Wait wait WAIT.

PK had sex with GnomeRage?

Don't believe it. No!Oops, was that a secret?

[iJin]

I wanna see a Linkedin. I'm such a noob at it. :(

[JackWhisper]

Oops, was that a secret?

Creepiest. Revelation. Ever.

Because of PK. Not GR. Just saying.

[JackWhisper]

Red Thread: So I wanna get a big kid job

the only thing creepy is bob stalking gr IRL

Bob. Someone says you stalk GR IRL.

ETA: Oh and they're a coward and don't sign their rep.

[iJin]

Yo girl :heart:

Are you making bank already? I'ma need yo' help with some formulas yo. Let me hire you to tutor me. ;) ;)

[Bobmuhthol]

Are you making bank already? I'ma need yo' help with some formulas yo. Let me hire you to tutor me. ;) ;)I do all right. Whatever you need.

[Tisket]

We understand that you're still emotionally attached to the girl you fucked. It's clouding your judgement.

Really?

That revelation is disturbing on many levels.

I'm also betting it added at least another twenty pages to this thread.

[Wrathbringer]

We understand that you're still emotionally attached to the girl you fucked. It's clouding your judgement.

Oh and Gnome Rage's LinkedIn is fucking atrocious in case anyone is curious.

Look on the bright side, Bob. I realize you're bitter about gr rejecting you because you aren't really capable of interesting a woman, but that's why you wasted so much of your life on school; to afford prostitutes.

[Bobmuhthol]

Look on the bright side, Bob. I realize you're bitter about gr rejecting you because you aren't really capable of interesting a woman, but that's why you wasted so much of your life on school; to afford prostitutes.Nothing wrong with that. At $200/session, I am positive that I could afford a prostitute every day and still make more than GR after tax.

[Ker_Thwap]

Nothing wrong with that. At $200/session, I am positive that I could afford a prostitute every day and still make more than GR after tax.

You've now assumed the pk role... of being the bitter friend zoned asshole spewing personal info online. It's 2015, no one gives a fuck if young people fuck, not even old guys like me. On the other hand bragging about how much you earn, that's still bro-tastic.

[waywardgs]

For fuck's sake, what the hell is wrong with you people...

[Parkbandit]

Nothing wrong with that. At $200/session, I am positive that I could afford a prostitute every day and still make more than GR after tax.

So that's what a jilted lover looks like. Grats on making pk look a little less creepy.

http://www.naaree.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/toxic-love.jpg

[Johnny Five]

Wait wait WAIT.

PK had sex with GnomeRage?

Don't believe it. No!

So my white knight picture was completely valid and....

http://cdn.meme.li/i/kh1y7.jpg

[Tgo01]

For fuck's sake, what the hell is wrong with you people...

How much time ya got?

[waywardgs]

How much time ya got?

Not enough to hear about these fools flying all around the country to bang each other.

[Johnny Five]

Plenty of time to hear about these fools flying all around the country to bang each other.

Fixed.

[Bobmuhthol]

You've now assumed the pk role... of being the bitter friend zoned asshole spewing personal info online. It's 2015, no one gives a fuck if young people fuck, not even old guys like me. On the other hand bragging about how much you earn, that's still bro-tastic.How much I make isn't the issue, it's that for (very literally) years I was constantly told here that I would "never make it in the real world," that my ideas were terrible because "otherwise someone would be paying me for them," etc. I now outearn those people (by selling my good ideas to a company, no less!), and I'm very happy to disclose that. GR happened to be connected to this because she said a bunch of dumb shit in the past re: how she's a legend in her field and will be making tons of money very shortly. She neither listened to the truth nor applied herself. That's no one else's fault.

I was never friend zoned. GR has some serious mental health issues that she should take care of, but instead she borderline flaunts her shitty decision making as an asset repeatedly. Maybe being in the same room as her and msconstrew was awkward because they were fucking the same guy? I don't know. I just remember her acting the way she always does and myself getting drunk.

[Tisket]

Not enough to hear about these fools flying all around the country to bang each other.

Speak for yourself.

Personally, I want details.

[elcidcannon]

How much I make isn't the issue, it's that for (very literally) years I was constantly told here that I would "never make it in the real world," that my ideas were terrible because "otherwise someone would be paying me for them," etc.

Maybe that was based less on your merits and more on the fact that you come across as completely insufferable?

That's just my opinion based off of what you've said here and people have said about you.

[Astray]

Speak for yourself.

Personally, I want details.

:yeahthat:

[Tisket]

Look on the bright side, Bob. I realize you're bitter about gr rejecting you because you aren't really capable of interesting a woman, but that's why you wasted so much of your life on school; to afford prostitutes.

You sound far more bitter than Alex. It's not his fault that your life is so barren. Envy does horrible things to a person's soul. Let it go.

[Warriorbird]

How much I make isn't the issue, it's that for (very literally) years I was constantly told here that I would "never make it in the real world," that my ideas were terrible because "otherwise someone would be paying me for them," etc. I now outearn those people (by selling my good ideas to a company, no less!), and I'm very happy to disclose that. GR happened to be connected to this because she said a bunch of dumb shit in the past re: how she's a legend in her field and will be making tons of money very shortly. She neither listened to the truth nor applied herself. That's no one else's fault.

I was never friend zoned. GR has some serious mental health issues that she should take care of, but instead she borderline flaunts her shitty decision making as an asset repeatedly. Maybe being in the same room as her and msconstrew was awkward because they were fucking the same guy? I don't know. I just remember her acting the way she always does and myself getting drunk.

I pretty much always thought your "stalking" was for comic effect. Seems like I had the right take.