Bill O'Reilly Smeared?

[ClydeR]

David Corn, the lead author of a new report alleging that Bill O'Reilly lied about his Falklands War experience, says the Fox News anchor is hiding behind name calling and refusing to account for legitimate discrepancies in his statements.

"To me, the issue here is whether a media figure and journalist like Bill O'Reilly, who claims to be a truth teller, can get away without answering questions about specific statements he's made, and hide behind name calling," Corn told the On Media blog on Thursday. "I would encourage anyone else who covers this story to get Bill O'Reilly to answer those quesitons -- if not to me, than to anyone else."

Corn's remarks came immediately after O'Reilly called Corn "a liar" and a "despicable guttersnipe" during an interview with On Media. O'Reilly said that he "never claimed to have been on the Falkland Islands" and that Corn's report, for Mother Jones, was "a piece of garbage."

More... (http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2015/02/david-corn-hits-back-at-bill-oreilly-202828.html)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7UGC3quedc

Buenos Aries and the Faulklands are practically the same place. It's not fair to expect O'Reilly to remember exactly where he was.

[Tgo01]

"He covered a protest after the war was over in Buenos Aires. I don’t think that’s a reasonable definition of a combat situation. If you look up ‘combat situation’ in the dictionary, it’s not ‘an ugly protest.’’’

So, wait, did his account of what happened...happen? Like the army was chasing them because they wanted to end this protest and his photographer got injured and all of that? Sounds like the guy at Mother Jones isn't denying what O'Reilly said, merely that he doesn't agree it happened in the Faulklands. Because if you listen O'Reilly says "war zone in Argentina, in the Faulklands."

Sounds like he's saying it happened in Argentina (which is where the press corp was) but was trying to clarify it was during the Faulklands war.

Even the last bit there where they are trying to get him in a "gotcha!" moment about him not seeing that other guy in the war zone of various conflicts, he once again says "The Faulkland conflict in Argentina", so once again he is saying he was in Argentina.

Is this story from Mother Jones even serious? Are they hoping their readers/viewers don't actually, y'know, listen to the videos they provide as their "proof" and hope they will just take their side for everything?

Keep in mind I think Bill O'Reilly is an asshole.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-Kuv_kMwRA

[JackWhisper]

Keep in mind Bill O'Reilly is an asshole.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-Kuv_kMwRA


FTFY.

[Jarvan]

It's one of those.. They got one of ours, we need to get one of theirs. issues.

Brian Williams, a darling of the Liberal Left got caught in a major lie. And is suspended for 6 months or forever.. depending how the replacements ratings are.

So.. the left has to find someone on the Right to try to get rid of. I mean.. if this was such a HUGE issue, you think they would have brought it up back in 2013. Nope.. no one cared about it till now.

I listened to the video, and some of his other stuff. He never said he covered the war while being in the Faulklands. He said he covered the war in the Faulklands.

Pretty sad all told really. I mean really.. David Corn is a POLITICAL journalist... and is one for a FAR LEFT magazine. I mean.. if it was WSJ bringing this up.. maybe I would consider it. Being it's coming from an obvious political extremist... not so much.

[Warriorbird]

I'm sure there's a bunch out there who've told lies (of all sorts.) I don't think this really rises to that level though.

[JackWhisper]

This O'Reilly > That O'Reilly.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHRxv-40WMU

[waywardgs]

This story has no legs.

[JackWhisper]

This story has no legs.

But is it accurate?

[Warriorbird]

Bill O'Reilly has told a lot of lies. This doesn't even really rise to exaggeration.

Though claiming he was in a "combat zone" is LOL.

[Taernath]

Bill O'Reilly has told a lot of lies. This doesn't even really rise to exaggeration.

Though claiming he was in a "combat zone" is LOL.

I would place it in the 'guys who went to Kuwait bragging about their deployment' tier.

[zzentar]

Armed forces in the farthest back support bases 100's even thousands of miles away from combat, get combat ribbons. I believe , do not know this as fact but I believe it, drone operaters if military get combat ribbons.

[Androidpk]

Ribbons, yes. Combat, no.

[Ker_Thwap]

Bill is a weasel, but he's fairly consistent about his phrasing to imply shit without outright lying.

[Parkbandit]

Liberal desperation.

It's fun to watch.

http://kanoodle.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/10306265_10152619348732116_4758698005492442004_n.j pg

[ClydeR]

From Eric Engberg's Facebook page..


I can provide some eyewitness information on this matter because I was one of the correspondents in Buenos Aires with O'Reilly and the rest of the rather large staff of CBS News people who were there "covering" the war.

More... (https://www.facebook.com/eric.j.engberg/posts/10204873374051471)

[Warriorbird]

Ah ha ha. Facebook owned by old people.

[Ker_Thwap]

Ah ha ha. Facebook owned by old people.

I came away from the article with a better impression of the young Bill O'Reilly. He was brash, confident, standing up to the corporate man, willing to break the mold of the old men clinging to vestiges of their power. Willing to risk his own safety to shine a light upon atrocities! He seems to be the perfect young liberal full of himself and chock full of half thought out "new" ideas! Oh, sure there was the element of being a pompous frat boy ass with no respect for the lives of his camera crew, or his fellow reporters, but you have to break some eggs if you want to make an omelette!

I'm also disappointed with Clive, he posted the negative link about Bill without the caveat that it proved Bill's innocence. That's some lazy ass trolling, no where near your usual standard. If you're going to post troll arguments to sucker people into arguing your side of the agenda for you, you need to be more consistent. Never let them see the man behind the curtain.

Oh, I still think modern day Bill is a weasel.

[Latrinsorm]

O'Reilly goes to the Falklands, O'Reilly goes to Argentina. You can't explain that.

[ClydeR]

More nattering nabobs of negativism..


Bill O'Reilly's account of a 1982 riot in Argentina is being sharply contradicted by seven other journalists who were his colleagues and were also there at the time.

More... (http://money.cnn.com/2015/02/22/media/cbs-staffers-oreilly-argentina/index.html)

[Gelston]

Armed forces in the farthest back support bases 100's even thousands of miles away from combat, get combat ribbons. I believe , do not know this as fact but I believe it, drone operaters if military get combat ribbons.

They get campaign ribbons, not combat ribbons. If you are sitting in Kuwait, for instance, you'd have gotten an OIF Campaign ribbon. You wouldn't get a Combat Action Ribbon (or the Army equivalent badge) though. That requires actually being in combat.

[Tgo01]

CBS news footage of the "somewhat dicey situation" in question.

http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/from-the-archives-cbs-news-coverage-of-the-end-of-the-falklands-war/


I did see soldiers armed with rifles on guard around the presidential palace. But they did not take aim at the crowd and I heard no gunfire. No one I talked to as the crowd was breaking up told me they heard gunfire. O'Reilly's claim that the army fired weapons into the crowd is not supported by anyone's recollection. Had that happened, I believe, the riot would have escalated into an uncontrollable attack on government buildings all over the capital. Nothing like that happened.

Yet we can see from the video footage that they were firing into the crowd.


O'Reilly has said he was in a situation in Argentina where "my photographer got run down and hit his head and was bleeding from the ear on the concrete and the army was chasing us." The only place where such an injury could have occurred was the relatively tame riot I have described above. Neither Doyle, who would have been immediately informed of injury to any CBS personnel, nor anyone else who was working the story remembers a cameraman being injured that night. No one who reported back to our hotel newsroom after the disturbance was injured; if a cameraman had been "bleeding from the ear" he would have immediately reported that to his superiors at the hotel. This part of O'Reilly's Argentina story is not credible without further confirmation, and O'Reilly should identify the cameraman by name so he can be questioned about the alleged injury.

Yet it was reported there that camera crews were knocked to the ground. Granted the guy didn't say whether they were bleeding or not, but is that the best Mother Jones can do? Catch O'Reilly claiming his camera man was bleeding when no one can corroborate this part of the story?


The riot around the presidential palace was actually short-lived. It consisted mostly of chanting, fist-shaking and throwing coins at the uniformed soldiers who were assembled outside the palace. I did not see any police attacks against demonstrators.

Yet the video says North American news crews were "jostled" and their vehicles were attacked with the crews in them, there were "arrests and beatings", the police "opened fire" at the crowd with tear gas and rubber bullets, and witnesses report "at least some serious injuries."

Was that Eric Jon Engberg guy even AT this protest? Okay, sure. I wouldn't call it a "war zone" but it wasn't exactly a peaceful protest either like this guy was making it out to be. Seriously, is this the best Mother Jones can do? At worst it seems O'Reilly exaggerated by calling it a war zone, everything else seems to be supported by CBS news themselves. And really, who hasn't exaggerated something like this? People refer to Detroit as a war zone yet it's nothing close to resembling an actual war zone.

I wonder if Mother Jones and Eric Jon Engberg are going to apologize now? I'm not holding my breath.

And fuck you Mother Jones for making me defend Bill O'Reilly.