Who actually watches traditional news programs?

[Ker_Thwap]

Was thinking about making a poll, got lazy.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

I listen to fox news via satellite radio going to and from work.
I watch The 5 (not news, opinion really) when I am home early enough to watch it.
I read articles from google news when something on TV/radio or something I overheard piques my interest.
I occasionally read the Wallstreet journal.

If I want to listen to lies, I listen to Josh Earnest, Jen Psaki or Marie Harf. Seriously - how much would it suck to be them?

[Silvean]

My wife likes to keep CNN on in the house like it's a bank lobby or something. I read my news online at the usual liberal elite websites.

[Androidpk]

I like to listen to NPR and BBC on the radio. I'll watch Robin Mead in the morning sometimes, simply because she is mesmerizing.

[Back]

I usually have local news on and NBC Nightly news when I am at home in front of the computer. Occasionally BBC news.

I do have local news radio on when I am driving. The station also covers the world's top stories.

[Parkbandit]

I actually like to watch MSNBC for political stories that are "bad" for the Democrats.. just because it's hilarious listening to them lament, whine and complain.

I watch the Today show in the morning for the first half hour.

I hit up Drudge, Yahoo, WSJ and TBO online for news. I have CNN and ESPN on my phone for alerts.

[Tgo01]

I get all of my news from the internets.

I have NPR on my phone for when I need news on the go.

[Ker_Thwap]

I haven't watched an actual talking head, teleprompter reading person in maybe a decade, as pretty much every media outlet has their own agenda to push. Even looking for news on the internet can leave you subject to filter bubbles, where the algorithms try to push you towards sites that will make you happy.

I clear my cookies, keep my FB data private, use adblocker, clear my browsing history, go incognito and all that crap, just to get unfiltered access. I also check Fark, a news aggregator site where the readers choose the articles that get greenlit, and yes, even the PC.

I make such an effort to avoid bias, and get exposed to all sorts of information. It just baffles me that someone would choose to just watch Fox, or MSNBC, or any single site, and trust them to present an accurate view of the world.

I thought of this today when I was listening to a video of some kid reading very weak science advice in a very convincing tone of voice.

[Androidpk]

I say it is good to include biased media, simply because it highlights said bias. That's why I check out drudge and huffpo. Those two sites toe the party line so hard it is both hilarious and saddening.

[Tisket]

I devour newspapers and I utilize online news outlets as well. I can't remember the last time I watched an actual newscast from a network though.

[Ker_Thwap]

I devour newspapers and I utilize online news outlets as well. I can't remember the last time I watched an actual newscast from a network though.

No one cares what you think Richard Sherman... oh, it's Tisket. Sorry!

[Tisket]

I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.

[waywardgs]

I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.

That's kinda what he looks like he's thinking.

[Androidpk]

https://nesncom.files.wordpress.com/2015/02/richard-sherman-sad-tee.jpg?w=960&h=921

[Tisket]

Haters.

[Ker_Thwap]

Haters.

We're just trying to help you heal. It's taken time, but I'm now almost over Bucky Fucking Dent/Bill Buckner/David Tyree/Mario Manningham.

[Androidpk]

Goddamnit, Buckner!

[Parkbandit]

We're just trying to help you heal. It's taken time, but I'm now almost over Bucky Fucking Dent/Bill Buckner/David Tyree/Mario Manningham.

As a fan, I benefited greatly from each one of these examples.

[~Rocktar~]

I haven't had TV in over 5 years. I use a couple of news aggrigator services so I get headlines from around 50 of the world's most popular news organizations. I also watch online occasionally. I typically try to post stories here from the worst of the Liberal/Socialist leaning news outlets becuase it's just more salt in the wound when a Liberal/Socialist fucks up.

[Fallen]

Not I. I watch comedy news shows, listen to BBC and NPR, and read from any and all websites that pop up on google news aggregator. I'll fuck around on pubmed a bit too for articles, but that's a fairly limited scope of news.

[Gelston]

I watch my drone feeds.

[Androidpk]

I watch my beer cams.

°

[ClydeR]

I get all of my news right here in this forum.

[Gelston]

I get all of my news right here in this forum.

I've already said I do that before. Come up with your own thing.

[ClydeR]

I've already said I do that before. Come up with your own thing.

That's because you and I have a lot in common.

I feel very lucky to be part of this community of people who are always well informed on current events, even though most of you are too liberal.

[Taernath]

Mostly internet news aggregators, sometimes humor shows if I remember them, and Fox or CNN though I rarely watch TV. NPR if I'm in the mood to listen to Diane Rehm's sultry tones, the local conservative AM station if I'm not.

[Warriorbird]

I don't watch any traditional news programs unless I'm with other people. My folks watch local news sometimes. My girlfriend likes Bloomberg and the BBC.

[Thondalar]

I really like the Rachel Maddow show.

[Androidpk]

I really like the Rachel Maddow show.

PB has a hard on for her.

[Tgo01]

That's because you and I have a lot in common.

I feel very lucky to be part of this community of people who are always well informed on current events, even though most of you are too liberal.

You're trying too hard :(

[Back]

I've noticed a change in my grandad after he keeps FOX on all day and night.

This is a guy who lived through the depression, signed up in WWII, and loved watching PBS notably Monty Python and Fawlty Towers.

He is not the same after FOX. Much less fun to be around. Sadly.

[Taernath]

I've noticed a change in my grandad after he keeps FOX on all day and night.

Yeah, my dad is the same way. Depending on the segment it's constant negative news and fear mongering, and it keeps him up sometimes. Every once in a while he'll ask me if I've heard about X story, and most of the time I have but because I heard about it from different sources I know it's been blown out of proportion. MSNBC is probably the same way on the opposite end of the spectrum.

[Tgo01]

Yeah, my dad is the same way. Depending on the segment it's constant negative news and fear mongering, and it keeps him up sometimes. Every once in a while he'll ask me if I've heard about X story, and most of the time I have but because I heard about it from different sources I know it's been blown out of proportion. MSNBC is probably the same way on the opposite end of the spectrum.

Fox News: The government wants your guns!
MSNBC: The government wants you to work!

Sorry, couldn't resist.

[Back]

Yeah, my dad is the same way. Depending on the segment it's constant negative news and fear mongering, and it keeps him up sometimes. Every once in a while he'll ask me if I've heard about X story, and most of the time I have but because I heard about it from different sources I know it's been blown out of proportion. MSNBC is probably the same way on the opposite end of the spectrum.

I honestly don't think MSNBC is the opposite. You're right. If you watch FOX all day you'll get afraid and depressed. MSNBC is like cotton candy in comparison. Not that it sugar coats everything just that it is less negative.

[Androidpk]

DrudgeReport: liberals are destroying the USA!
HuffPo: conservatives are destroying the USA!

[Tgo01]

I honestly don't think MSNBC is the opposite. You're right. If you watch FOX all day you'll get afraid and depressed. MSNBC is like cotton candy in comparison. Not that it sugar coats everything just that it is less negative.

:chair:

[Back]

DrudgeReport: liberals are destroying the USA!
HuffPo: conservatives are destroying the USA!

I disagree with your HuffPo assessment. Drudge obviously has an agenda. HuffPo is owned by AOL. AOL's only agenda is revenue. So HuffPo is much more than a biased news aggregate. It has much much more.

[Tgo01]

I disagree with your HuffPo assessment. Drudge obviously has an agenda. HuffPo is owned by AOL. AOL's only agenda is revenue. So HuffPo is much more than a biased news aggregate. It has much much more.

:chair:

[Androidpk]

I disagree with your HuffPo assessment. Drudge obviously has an agenda. HuffPo is owned by AOL. AOL's only agenda is revenue. So HuffPo is much more than a biased news aggregate. It has much much more.

Are you fucking kidding me? HP is one gigantic circle jerk for loonie liberals.

[Taernath]

I honestly don't think MSNBC is the opposite. You're right. If you watch FOX all day you'll get afraid and depressed. MSNBC is like cotton candy in comparison. Not that it sugar coats everything just that it is less negative.

Every time I've watched MSNBC it's always been some segment with the hosts taking potshots at Republicans, deserved or not. Plus they've got Sharpton as a cheerleader, who in my book ranks among such luminaries as Hannity and Coulter.

[Warriorbird]

I disagree with your HuffPo assessment. Drudge obviously has an agenda. HuffPo is owned by AOL. AOL's only agenda is revenue. So HuffPo is much more than a biased news aggregate. It has much much more.

It also steals other people's content and is run by a cynical former Republican.

[Back]

Are you fucking kidding me? HP is one gigantic circle jerk for loonie liberals.

I do not agree with that. Sorry. Call me all the names you want.

The opposite end of political extremism isn't some loony hippy shit. It's regular people wanting regular news.

[Tgo01]

The opposite end of political extremism isn't some loony hippy shit. It's regular people wanting regular news.

:chair:

[Back]

I'm surprised how FOX has managed to convince everyone that everything else besides FOX is anti-FOX.

There are just real people who want real news.

[waywardgs]

The opposite end of political extremism isn't some loony hippy shit. It's regular people wanting regular news.

I like "I like turtles" news.

[Back]

It also steals other people's content and is run by a cynical former Republican.

I don't see anything wrong with aggregate sites. Digg is great. So is Buzzfeed.

[Kembal]

I only watch CNN for breaking news. Otherwise, I prefer NPR. Online, pretty much the New York Times and Talking Points Memo, plus whatever AP or Reuters stories pop up on various pages.

[Back]

My wife likes to keep CNN on in the house like it's a bank lobby or something.

Hilarious!


I read my news online at the usual liberal elite websites.

Like REAL news?

[Warriorbird]

I don't see anything wrong with aggregate sites. Digg is great. So is Buzzfeed.

They also do unattributed content theft, like Buzzfeed.

[Fallen]

Speaking of (quasi) news shows, how have people been enjoying John Oliver's new show?

[TheLastShamurai]

Speaking of (quasi) news shows, how have people been enjoying John Oliver's new show?

I love his show. So happy it's back on.

[waywardgs]

Speaking of (quasi) news shows, how have people been enjoying John Oliver's new show?

Love it. I like that they spend a good amount of the show delving into one topic.

[Androidpk]

Speaking of (quasi) news shows, how have people been enjoying John Oliver's new show?

Fucking love it.

[Warriorbird]

Speaking of (quasi) news shows, how have people been enjoying John Oliver's new show?

He's great. I think the story of him and his wife is awesome too.

[Ceyrin]

Watching broadcast news is about as useful and interesting as watching professional wrestling.

I read the Economist.

[Kaldonis]

News is overrated. I didn't even know Osama was dead for like a month.

I've never in my life owned a television that was connected to receive signals from outside my home. If I'm at my folks' house, then sure I'll probably see something on TV that isn't a film or TV show series on optical/HDD.

At some point I had a subscription to both AdBusters and the Christian Science Monitor.

[Back]

Watching a BBC interview with Assad, the ruler of Syria. In a clean pressed suit. Seemingly completely oblivious to the damage to his country.

[Back]

At some point I had a subscription to both AdBusters and the Christian Science Monitor.

Wow, Adbusters. Great magazine. I loved their anarchistic layouts. Not so much their journalism.

CSM does some great reporting.

[JackWhisper]

I devour newspapers



Because reading is for pussies.

[Back]

Because reading is for pussies.

Are you reading this, pussy?

[JackWhisper]

Are you reading this, pussy?

Tisket will devour you!

[Back]

I'm not afraid of her like you are.

[Candor]

I read the Wallstreet Journal fairly regularly.
I watch CNN 2-3 times a week.
I watch BBC news once a week or so.
I occassionally watch other National news programs just to see what they are talking (or complaining) about.
I subscribe to Time magazine and read about half the issues that arrive.

[Parkbandit]

PB has a hard on for her.

This is about as honest as the time you said 'I didn't clean her account out.. because cleaning her account out means I took every single thing.'

[Parkbandit]

I've noticed a change in my grandad after he keeps FOX on all day and night.

This is a guy who lived through the depression, signed up in WWII, and loved watching PBS notably Monty Python and Fawlty Towers.

He is not the same after FOX. Much less fun to be around. Sadly.

He's probably blaming himself for you. That would be enough to give anyone depression.

[JackWhisper]

He's probably blaming himself for you. That would be enough to give anyone depression.

This is fucked up, but I won't lie; I laughed.

[Androidpk]

This is about as honest as the time you said 'I didn't clean her account out.. because cleaning her account out means I took every single thing.'

Right, because a couple of items amongst thousands is cleaning out.

http://www.animated-gifs.eu/leisure-circus-clowns/0215.gif

[Back]

He's probably blaming himself for you. That would be enough to give anyone depression.

Wow. Cheap shot. You don't know me or my family. Criticizing FOX is fairly commonplace. So if you take so much issue with me criticizing FOX to be derogatory about me as a person and my family, you're the one who has serious issues.

[Candor]

I've noticed a change in my grandad after he keeps FOX on all day and night.

This is a guy who lived through the depression, signed up in WWII, and loved watching PBS notably Monty Python and Fawlty Towers.

He is not the same after FOX. Much less fun to be around. Sadly.

I started watching FoxNews mostly to prove to a friend that it couldn't possibly be as bad as he was saying. We bet a case of Sam Adams Winter Ale on the matter, and he even let me be the judge as to who won the bet. I was convinced I had guaranteed myself a free case of beer.

Needless to say, I lost the bet.

[Back]

I started watching FoxNews mostly to prove to a friend that it couldn't possibly be as bad as he was saying. We bet a case of Sam Adams Winter Ale on the matter, and he even let me be the judge as to who won the bet. I was convinced I had guaranteed myself a free case of beer.

Needless to say, I lost the bet.

Uh ouch!

[Androidpk]

http://wanna-joke.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/funny-picture-Fox-news-reporters-presenters.jpg

[JackWhisper]

http://wanna-joke.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/funny-picture-Fox-news-reporters-presenters.jpg

http://jezebel.com/fox-news-will-have-you-know-there-are-in-fact-12-non-1604397198

[Taernath]

http://wanna-joke.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/funny-picture-Fox-news-reporters-presenters.jpg

I don't know how old that image is (lol Glen Beck) nor do I keep track of their hiring or vetting process, but there are definitely non-white/non-blonde hosts and regular contributors on the station.

[Back]

http://jezebel.com/fox-news-will-have-you-know-there-are-in-fact-12-non-1604397198

If it's not FOX it isn't news.

[Parkbandit]

Right, because a couple of items amongst thousands is cleaning out.



I get it now! YOU were the victim here! YOU were the one that had to seduce a married woman and steal her stuff.. then listen to a loud masturbater in the room next to yours where you spent 80% of your time!

I would sue them both for their actions!

[JackWhisper]

I get it now! YOU were the victim here! YOU were the one that had to seduce a married woman and steal her stuff.. then listen to a loud masturbater in the room next to yours where you spent 80% of your time!

I would sue them both for their actions!


It doesn't matter how old this gets, it's still funny. He's never going to live this down.

[Parkbandit]

Wow. Cheap shot. You don't know me or my family. Criticizing FOX is fairly commonplace. So if you take so much issue with me criticizing FOX to be derogatory about me as a person and my family, you're the one who has serious issues.

Hey, you said it was Fox News that made your Grandfather depressed and un-fun. I simply gave you a much more realistic alternative.

[Parkbandit]

It doesn't matter how old this gets, it's still funny. He's never going to live this down.

The best part is: He contributes to it more than anyone.

It's awesome. And it made the "Makes me smile" thread even more hilarious.

[Back]

Hey, you said it was Fox News that made your Grandfather depressed and un-fun. I simply gave you a much more realistic alternative.

You were trying to be funny, got it. I hope your troll friends green rep you for it.

I'm not happy about how FOX has fucked this country. And I'm not happy about how people like you, a fellow American, are so willing to throw people under the bus. If I were picking people for a kickball team you would be last.

[Parkbandit]

You were trying to be funny, got it.

No, I was being 100% honest and factual.


I hope your troll friends green rep you for it.

I got some Packer troll rep this morning.. but no friend rep yet.



I'm not happy about how FOX has fucked this country.

lulwut?


And I'm not happy about how people like you, a fellow American, are so willing to throw people under the bus.

lulwutx2?


If I were picking people for a kickball team you would be last.

My team would destroy yours... but I imagine your team wouldn't keep score anyway, right? Because keeping score would hurt someone's feelings?

[Candor]

I'm not happy about how FOX has fucked this country.

FoxNews did not create a new way of thinking - it was in existence long beforehand. They give a voice for a segment of the population. Ever talk with a Bircher?

[JackWhisper]

FoxNews did not create a new way of thinking - it was in existence long beforehand. They give a voice for a segment of the population.

I don't agree with Back, but this statement needs to be reexamined. Fox is so extreme in it's leanings as to be judged clouded in it's reporting. I don't even watch the news, and I know Fox is not neutral or impartial on any stretch. What segment would admit they are THAT far with Fox in their leanings? That would invite questioning of sanity.

[Gelston]

I don't agree with Back, but this statement needs to be reexamined. Fox is so extreme in it's leanings as to be judged clouded in it's reporting. I don't even watch the news, and I know Fox is not neutral or impartial on any stretch. What segment would admit they are THAT far with Fox in their leanings? That would invite questioning of sanity.

There are plenty of people who are.

[JackWhisper]

There are plenty of people who are.

They must all be Daggerfail Covenant. HENCE THE QUESTIONING OF SANITY!

[Ker_Thwap]

This thread is turning out pretty much exactly how I expected.

- Most everyone watches the news programs I thought they would.
- A few people still confuse comedy (that's based on taking events out of context) as news.
- Back outs himself as a full blown idiot once again.

Bonus stuff:

AndroidPK: Question. What if I see something that I wanna take and it belongs to someone else?
Rhomann Dey: Then you will be arrested.
AndroidPK: But what if I want it more than the person who has it?
Rhomann Dey: Still illegal.
AndroidPK: That doesn't follow. No, I want it more, sir. Do you understand me? What are you laughing at? What? I can't have a discussion with this gentleman?

[Candor]

I don't agree with Back, but this statement needs to be reexamined. Fox is so extreme in it's leanings as to be judged clouded in it's reporting. I don't even watch the news, and I know Fox is not neutral or impartial on any stretch. What segment would admit they are THAT far with Fox in their leanings? That would invite questioning of sanity.

I don't mean this to be insulting, but you might expand your horizons a bit. There are people out there with extreme viewpoints.

On the Left, PETA is the best example I can think of offhand. Check out their website: www.peta.org

On the Right, check out this website: www.jbs.org

[Gelston]

This thread is turning out pretty much exactly how I expected.

- Most everyone watches the news programs I thought they would.
- A few people still confuse comedy (that's based on taking events out of context) as news.
- Back outs himself as a full blown idiot once again.

Bonus stuff:

AndroidPK: Question. What if I see something that I wanna take and it belongs to someone else?
Rhomann Dey: Then you will be arrested.
AndroidPK: But what if I want it more than the person who has it?
Rhomann Dey: Still illegal.
AndroidPK: That doesn't follow. No, I want it more, sir. Do you understand me? What are you laughing at? What? I can't have a discussion with this gentleman?

You forgot to have him post a clown car gif.

[Back]

FoxNews did not create a new way of thinking - it was in existence long beforehand. They give a voice for a segment of the population. Ever talk with a Bircher?

I can agree with this statement. The internet has revealed all kinds of ignorance. Saying things to people without standing in front of them is empowering.

[Back]

- Back outs himself as a full blown idiot once again.

How so? Because I don't like FOX? Because I think FOX is more of a problem than a solution?

[Parkbandit]

The internet has revealed all kinds of ignorance.

Truer and more ironic words have never, ever been posted. Ever.

[Back]

Truer and more ironic words have never, ever been posted. Ever.

How many Pulitzers do they have? Oh, wait, Pulitzers, according to FOX, and every other study, or science, or history, is not FOX so they are bullshit.

[Ker_Thwap]

How so? Because I don't like FOX? Because I think FOX is more of a problem than a solution?

No, because you're apparently incapable of noticing that MSNBC has a liberal bias, calling it a show for normal people to watch. I understand that it's your binky, and it makes you calm and content to watch news that pretty much confirms your world view. But the same can be said of people who use Fox news as their binky as well.

Don't even think of rolling out that Pew study. It doesn't prove that MSNBC is nearly moderate or unbiased. It proves that people who watch MSNBC identify themselves in a certain way. There's a huge difference in these things.

[Back]

No, because you're apparently incapable of noticing that MSNBC has a liberal bias, calling it a show for normal people to watch. I understand that it's your binky, and it makes you calm and content to watch news that pretty much confirms your world view. But the same can be said of people who use Fox news as their binky as well.

Don't even think of rolling out that Pew study. It doesn't prove that MSNBC is nearly moderate or unbiased. It proves that people who watch MSNBC identify themselves in a certain way. There's a huge difference in these things.

Dude, are you replying to my post or your imagination? Because I never claimed the things you are stating.

I'm hurt you did not remember what I posted about where I get my news. I think you have an agenda. Let it all out, bro. Relax.

[Parkbandit]

How many Pulitzers do they have? Oh, wait, Pulitzers, according to FOX, and every other study, or science, or history, is not FOX so they are bullshit.

lolwut? What does that have to do with you saying "The Internet has revealed all kinds of ignorance"?

[Back]

I have to lol at the MSNBC hate. Really? Low rating MSNBC is the best comparison to the biggest propaganda machine in the 21 century?

MSNBC needs to step it up!

[Parkbandit]

I have to lol at the MSNBC hate. Really? Low rating MSNBC is the best comparison to the biggest propaganda machine in the 21 century?

MSNBC needs to step it up!

So, low ratings = biased reporting?

Let's play a game... On a -10 to +10 scale (where 0 is unbiased) where would you rate Fox News (let's put them on the right, so the plus side) and where would you rate MSNBC (let's put them on the left, so the negative side)

[Ceyrin]

The best part is: He contributes to it more than anyone.

It's awesome. And it made the "Makes me smile" thread even more hilarious.

When PB smiles, a youngster somewhere gets off someone's lawn.

[Ker_Thwap]

Dude, are you replying to my post or your imagination? Because I never claimed the things you are stating.

I'm hurt you did not remember what I posted about where I get my news. I think you have an agenda. Let it all out, bro. Relax.

Apologies, you were referring to HP, not MSNBC. News flash, HP self identifies as a liberal site.

My point remains the same. You're incapable of even noticing bias when it's directed towards your chosen side of the fence. Most conservatives will admit that Fox is biased as hell. Most liberals will admit that HuffPo is biased as hell. But not you, that's why I'm chuckling at you.

[Back]

There is no comparison. FOX wins. They get the ratings. MSNBC is supposed to be the opposite but they can't even come close to FOX's ratings.

I don't watch MSNBC, I don't know anyone who does. Give me CNBC or Bloomberg.

It is hilarious that FOX points at MSNBC as it's foil. Tiny little MSNBC is such a threat! Not as big of a threat as Obama and the Democrats though.

[Back]

Apologies, you were referring to HP, not MSNBC. News flash, HP self identifies as a liberal site.

My point remains the same. You're incapable of even noticing bias when it's directed towards your chosen side of the fence. Most conservatives will admit that Fox is biased as hell. Most liberals will admit that HuffPo is biased as hell. But not you, that's why I'm chuckling at you.

I disagree with you. I think conservatives are the ones with their heads in the sands while most regular people are just regular people. I understand that in the real world there are opposites. Hot/cold, high/low, light/dark... but there is also a middle where most of us reside and don't give a shit about those extremes. I do not see this as being a necessary dichotomy in social mores or political views. This is not a contest of who is right or wrong. We all need to be right, not wrong.

[Parkbandit]

There is no comparison. FOX wins. They get the ratings. MSNBC is supposed to be the opposite but they can't even come close to FOX's ratings.

I don't watch MSNBC, I don't know anyone who does. Give me CNBC or Bloomberg.

It is hilarious that FOX points at MSNBC as it's foil. Tiny little MSNBC is such a threat! Not as big of a threat as Obama and the Democrats though.

Ratings is not what we are talking about.. we're talking about their political slant.

Here, this is what I was asking you to do. A very simple exercise.

On a -10 to +10 scale (where 0 is unbiased) where would you rate Fox News (let's put them on the right, so the plus side) and where would you rate MSNBC (let's put them on the left, so the negative side)

[AnticorRifling]

I can agree with this statement. The internet has revealed all kinds of ignorance. Saying things to people without standing in front of them is empowering.

Is that why you do it?

[AnticorRifling]

Ratings is not what we are talking about.. we're talking about their political slant.

Here, this is what I was asking you to do. A very simple exercise.

On a -10 to +10 scale (where 0 is unbiased) where would you rate Fox News (let's put them on the right, so the plus side) and where would you rate MSNBC (let's put them on the left, so the negative side)

Why does the left have to be negative you biased woman hater?!

[Gelston]

Why does the left have to be negative you biased woman hater?!

cause bitches be trippin

[Back]

Is that why you do it?

You of all people? Probably not to your face. Your hands are like huge bone in ribeyes.

[Parkbandit]

Why does the left have to be negative you biased woman hater?!

Hey now.. I'm old, but I didn't invent the linear scale!

[Gelston]

Hey now.. I'm old, but I didn't invent the linear scale!

I'm sure you were there when the horse messenger showed up with news of the invention.

[Ker_Thwap]

I disagree with you. I think conservatives are the ones with their heads in the sands while most regular people are just regular people. I understand that in the real world there are opposites.

... and that sentence perfectly sums up why I think you're pathetic. You see yourself as a moderate. You wrap yourself in the "regular" people, and the "us" and all those other weasel words. If you were a moderate, you'd be equally offended by the liberal extremists as you are by the conservative extremists, or at least take turns being offended by each group.

This was my whole point in creating this thread, to see who wraps themselves in a biased blanket of media, telling themselves, all the cool people are watching X show like me, all the crazy people are watching Y show.

[Gelston]

... and that sentence perfectly sums up why I think you're pathetic. You see yourself as a moderate. You wrap yourself in the "regular" people, and the "us" and all those other weasel words. If you were a moderate, you'd be equally offended by the liberal extremists as you are by the conservative extremists, or at least take turns being offended by each group.

This was my whole point in creating this thread, to see who wraps themselves in a biased blanket of media, telling themselves, all the cool people are watching X show like me, all the crazy people are watching Y show.

Please, you failed to even create the poll.

[AnticorRifling]

You of all people? Probably not to your face. Your hands are like huge bone in ribeyes.

So you're answering in the affirmative then?

[Back]

Well, fuck me for being moderate. I do not buy the conservative extremism. Where has that got us? More wealth for the rich. Less for everyone else.

You think you caught a liberal? You think you caught the problem? What is a liberal extremist?

[Back]

So you're answering in the affirmative then?

When Hamticor enters people should play nice. Am I wrong?

[Gelston]

Well, fuck me for being moderate. I do not buy the conservative extremism. Where has that got us? More wealth for the rich. Less for everyone else.

You think you caught a liberal? You think you caught the problem? What is a liberal extremist?

Dude.... You are in no way, shape, or form a moderate.

[Ker_Thwap]

Please, you failed to even create the poll.

Well, my poll was going to be pretty stupid anyway, I was planning on making it biased as hell and entirely non all encompassing.

A. I watch comedy shows and am too stupid to understand what context is.
B. I'm over 70 and watch Fox at volume 11.
C. I get all my news from the PC
D. The elderly gentleman reading the teleprompter tells me what to think.
E. News? My preacher watches the news for me.

[Back]

I'm real. Deal with it.

http://media.giphy.com/media/Zo9ACzmJgoqRy/giphy.gif

[Back]

Dude.... You are in no way, shape, or form a moderate.

I have to ask. What do you think a moderate is?

[Gelston]

I have to ask. What do you think a moderate is?

In politics and religion, a moderate is an individual who is not extreme, partisan, nor radical.

This does not describe you.

[Parkbandit]

Well, my poll was going to be pretty stupid anyway, I was planning on making it biased as hell and entirely non all encompassing.

A. I watch comedy shows and am too stupid to understand what context is.
B. I'm over 70 and watch Fox at volume 11.
C. I get all my news from the PC
D. The elderly gentleman reading the teleprompter tells me what to think.
E. News? My preacher watches the news for me.

Volume 11 on my tv is very low. I fall to sleep at 20 and normally watch at 30. It goes to 100.

[Parkbandit]

Well, fuck me for being moderate. I do not buy the conservative extremism. Where has that got us? More wealth for the rich. Less for everyone else.

You think you caught a liberal? You think you caught the problem? What is a liberal extremist?

So, on the scale I gave you.. where do you see Fox News and where do you see MSNBC?

Come on, it's easy!

[Johnny Five]

Got into work. Seen Back on the thread feed. Read his dumb ass comments. Laughed uncontrollably.

10/10 would do it again.

[Back]

In politics and religion, a moderate is an individual who is not extreme, partisan, nor radical.

This does not describe you.

How am I extreme? Extreme against what?

I am radical though. Rad bro. In real life. I'd rather be radical than the opposite of radical.

[Ker_Thwap]

Volume 11 on my tv is very low. I fall to sleep at 20 and normally watch at 30. It goes to 100.

I can only assume you chose to ignore my very funny Spinal Tap reference.

[Parkbandit]

I can only assume you chose to ignore my very funny Spinal Tap reference.

I would rather not specify that I either ignored it.. didn't recognize it.. or have never watched the movie. It's a movie, right?

But it's one of those 3.

[JackWhisper]

I would rather not specify that I either ignored it.. didn't recognize it.. or have never watched the movie. It's a movie, right?

But it's one of those 3.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOO5S4vxi0o

[Back]

I would rather not specify that I either ignored it.. didn't recognize it.. or have never watched the movie. It's a movie, right?

But it's one of those 3.

Spinal Tap fail.

[Parkbandit]

Spinal Tap fail.

It's actually one movie where I have been meaning to watch, but never have.

[Back]

It's actually one movie where I have been meaning to watch, but never have.

You'd like it.

[Androidpk]

It doesn't matter how old this gets, it's still funny. He's never going to live this down.

If you think I'm phased by any of this think again.

[Androidpk]

I get it now! YOU were the victim here! YOU were the one that had to seduce a married woman and steal her stuff.. then listen to a loud masturbater in the room next to yours where you spent 80% of your time!

I would sue them both for their actions!

Seduced? What am I, a witch? Uh, yeah.. that's right. I cast a spell on her and forced her to fly to me so I could have sex with her and pry her gemstone account password from her. My secret is revealed!!1

[JackWhisper]

Seduced? What am I, a witch? Uh, yeah.. that's right. I cast a spell on her and forced her to fly to me so I could have sex with her and pry her gemstone account password from her. My secret is revealed!!1

Saved for posterity. Going to make a PK quote collage about his times with the women who seek to overthrow his divine reign.

[Parkbandit]

Seduced? What am I, a witch?

You're way off one letter, but you got the next 4 right.

[Tgo01]

Dude, are you replying to my post or your imagination? Because I never claimed the things you are stating.

I'm hurt you did not remember what I posted about where I get my news. I think you have an agenda. Let it all out, bro. Relax.

:chair:

[Tgo01]

I disagree with you. I think conservatives are the ones with their heads in the sands while most regular people are just regular people. I understand that in the real world there are opposites. Hot/cold, high/low, light/dark... but there is also a middle where most of us reside and don't give a shit about those extremes. I do not see this as being a necessary dichotomy in social mores or political views. This is not a contest of who is right or wrong. We all need to be right, not wrong.

:chair:

[Ker_Thwap]

:chair:

Do you really think more repeated blows to the head are going to improve his reasoning?

[Tgo01]

Well, fuck me for being moderate. I do not buy the conservative extremism. Where has that got us? More wealth for the rich. Less for everyone else.

You think you caught a liberal? You think you caught the problem? What is a liberal extremist?

:chair:

Stop it, Back. I'm running out of chairs.

[Androidpk]

Back, it is hard to take that comment about conservatives having their heads in the sand when you deny that HuffPo has a liberal agenda and is incredibly biased against republicans.

[Back]

Do you really think more repeated blows to the head are going to improve his reasoning?

So, you claim to be the supreme of the unbiased. Do you see how you are looking down on everyone from your supposed high horse?

Isn't that the real problem? People on high horses?

[Tgo01]

Do you really think more repeated blows to the head are going to improve his reasoning?

Well, at this point it couldn't possibly hurt.

[Tgo01]

If you think I'm phased by any of this think again.

That's sort of the problem. A decent person would feel bad about all they did. For some reason you feel justified and vindicated :/

[waywardgs]

So, you claim to be the supreme of the unbiased. Do you see how you are looking down on everyone from your supposed high horse?

Isn't the the real problem? People on high horses?

http://media.giphy.com/media/4zfgU8ouRpHr2/giphy.gif

Someone take Back's laptop.

[Back]

Back, it is hard to take that comment about conservatives having their heads in the sand when you deny that HuffPo has a liberal agenda and is incredibly biased against republicans.

I deny that to the full extent. I do not subscribe to the opposite ends mean. There is extremism and there is normal. Most everyone fits into the normal category. And I think HuffPo, owned by AOL, fits into normal aggregate news sites unlike FOX, Drudge, or Brietbart or whatever extremist rag you throw out.

[Parkbandit]

So, you claim to be the supreme of the unbiased. Do you see how you are looking down on everyone from your supposed high horse?

Isn't that the real problem? People on high horses?

Where did he claim he was unbiased.. or even the Supreme of the Unbiased?

You're just being stupid to be stupid at this point. Honestly, if you don't see liberal bias from places like HP and MSNBC, then there really isn't anything to help you with.

But most of us already knew this...

[Androidpk]

That's sort of the problem. A decent person would feel bad about all they did. For some reason you feel justified and vindicated :/

Ahh, so not only do you know exactly what transpired in my personal life, you also know exactly how I feel too! I'm starrimg to think maybe it is you who is the witch!

[Parkbandit]

That's sort of the problem. A decent person would feel bad about all they did. For some reason you feel justified and vindicated :/

In PK's defense, who claimed he was decent?

I never have.

[Androidpk]

I deny that to the full extent. I do not subscribe to the opposite ends mean. There is extremism and there is normal. Most everyone fits into the normal category. And I think HuffPo, owned by AOL, fits into normal aggregate news sites unlike FOX, Drudge, or Brietbart or whatever extremist rag you throw out.

You keep saying owned by AOL as if that matters somehow.

[Parkbandit]

Ahh, so not only do you know exactly what transpired in my personal life, you also know exactly how I feel too! I'm starrimg to think maybe it is you who is the witch!

Why don't you enlighten us then? If there is a good reason that you believe you are justified and vindicated in cheating with a married woman and then cleaning out her (oh wait.. just selling most of her stuff.. not actually "cleaning out") GS account... please just tell us. I can't think of a good reason that paints you in a decent human light.. but hey, maybe there is!

[Back]

You keep saying owned by AOL as if that matters somehow.

It doesn't?

[Gelston]

It doesn't?

No, not really.

[JackWhisper]

Ahh, so not only do you know exactly what transpired in my personal life, you also know exactly how I feel too! I'm starrimg to think maybe it is you who is the witch!

A decent person would have tried to right shit between them and, at LEAST, Diethx.

[Tgo01]

In PK's defense, who claimed he was decent?

I never have.

Touché.

[Back]

This whole "biased news" is a fabrication by FOX. Not one Pulitzer but they criticize everyone who has one and the very meaning of a Pulitzer. Not to mention science, education, history, and everything that means progress. Journalism? That is not even in FOX's vocabulary. What is the last news they broke? Obama sucks?

I can't believe so many people are fooled by their doublespeak.

[Androidpk]

It doesn't?

Not in the slightest, bro.

[Parkbandit]

I deny that to the full extent. I do not subscribe to the opposite ends mean. There is extremism and there is normal. Most everyone fits into the normal category. And I think HuffPo, owned by AOL, fits into normal aggregate news sites unlike FOX, Drudge, or Brietbart or whatever extremist rag you throw out.

Holy shit...

[Androidpk]

A decent person would have tried to right shit between them and, at LEAST, Diethx.

I did with the former. Nothing I can do about the latter.

[Parkbandit]

This whole "biased news" is a fabrication by FOX. Not one Pulitzer but they criticize everyone who has one and the very meaning of a Pulitzer. Not to mention science, education, history, and everything that means progress. Journalism? That is not even in FOX's vocabulary. What is the last news they broke? Obama sucks?

I can't believe so many people are fooled by their doublespeak.

Holy shit x 2.

[Parkbandit]

By the way: I never want this day to end. So much entertainment!

[Gelston]

You put way too much into a prize awarded by 20 random people. Oh, and the board also elects its own members. Imagine that.

[Ceyrin]

Holy shit x 2.

I'm waiting for the hat trick.

[Gelston]

Then I think you both have the wool covering your eyes.

Did you just quote both of us and then say that you also have wool covering your eyes?

[Warriorbird]

Huffington Post is hardly biased to the level of Fox or MSNBC... but I THOUGHT it would be difficult to find anybody who'd say it doesn't have a liberal bias.

[Androidpk]

Huffington Post is hardly biased to the level of Fox or MSNBC... but I THOUGHT it would be difficult to find anybody who'd say it doesn't have a liberal bias.

Bullshit

[Tgo01]

This whole "biased news" is a fabrication by FOX. Not one Pulitzer but they criticize everyone who has one and the very meaning of a Pulitzer. Not to mention science, education, history, and everything that means progress. Journalism? That is not even in FOX's vocabulary. What is the last news they broke? Obama sucks?

I can't believe so many people are fooled by their doublespeak.

I would be kind of worried if huff post or msnbc ever won a Pulitzer for anything. It would prove what a joke the award is, sort if like the Nobel peace prize.

Has msnbc or huff post won a Pulitzer? You do know most of Fox News is opinion shows/entertainment, right? Don't thibk they hand out Pulitzers for that.

Before you get all bent out of shape, you do know msnbc has more air time dedicated to opinon shows, right?

[Back]

Sorry, I do not subscribe to FOX's bullshit. The opposite of FOX is truth. Not some made up socialist villain who wants you to get abortions and have gay sex.

[Gelston]

I would be kind of worried if huff post or msnbc ever won a Pulitzer for anything. It would prove what a joke the award is, sort if like the Nobel peace prize.

Has msnbc or huff post won a Pulitzer? You do know most of Fox News is opinion shows/entertainment, right? Don't thibk they hand out Pulitzers for that.

Before you get all bent out of shape, you do know msnbc has more air time dedicated to opinon shows, right?

They have Editorial awards, which are all opinion.

[Tgo01]

They have Editorial awards, which are all opinion.

Well that clinches it then.

[Androidpk]

Well that cinces it then.

Cincerely.

[Androidpk]

Sorry, I do not subscribe to FOX's bullshit. The opposite of FOX is truth. Not some made up socialist villain who wants you to get abortions and have gay sex.

The opposite of Fox is Huffingtonpost. And by that I mean the extremes of the political spectrum.

[Back]

The opposite of Fox is Huffingtonpost.

I disagree. The fact that we even argue about it makes all of them less trustworthy,

[Parkbandit]

Sorry, I do not subscribe to FOX's bullshit. The opposite of FOX is truth. Not some made up socialist villain who wants you to get abortions and have gay sex.

BOOM HAT TRICK!!!

[Parkbandit]

The opposite of Fox is Huffingtonpost. And by that I mean the extremes of the political spectrum.

I wouldn't consider either one of them "extremes of the political spectrum".

[Ker_Thwap]

So, you claim to be the supreme of the unbiased. Do you see how you are looking down on everyone from your supposed high horse?

Isn't that the real problem? People on high horses?

No, the real problem is people who don't understand the issues, and make no attempt to educate themselves. I don't particularly care if you're liberal, conservative or moderate. There are some very bright people who are capable of presenting alternative viewpoints and solutions to issues. These people can actually pick up on subtle nuances in a debate, and understand not only that they have differing opinions, but understand why they disagree.

You on the other hand, are seemingly incapable of even following why I'm mocking you. I'm mocking you for a specific reason. Shall I spell it out for you again? Will you bother listening this time?

It's kind of subtle, so you'll have to pay close attention: This is a thread about media bias or if you prefer confirmation bias. People tend to search out for, and interpret things in a manner which confirms their world view. In short, people like to be surrounded by a warm blanket of happy thoughts that don't make them think too much. Some liberals do this, some conservatives do this, and yes, even some moderates do this. Most introspective people, (I'd like to think) are aware of this tendency and will take some steps to mitigate it. Some people, like yourself, are utterly blind to the existence of anything that takes you outside of your comfort zone. These people use weasel words like "us" and "regular" and "progressive" confusing popularity with reasoning.

[Back]

BOOM HAT TRICK!!!

What is that supposed to mean?

[Gelston]

Rofl, you have to pay $50 and enter yourself into categories to be considered for a Pulitzer. I should start an award for something that has tons of categories and have people pay me money to enter.

[Kembal]

I would be kind of worried if huff post or msnbc ever won a Pulitzer for anything. It would prove what a joke the award is, sort if like the Nobel peace prize.

Has msnbc or huff post won a Pulitzer? You do know most of Fox News is opinion shows/entertainment, right? Don't thibk they hand out Pulitzers for that.

Before you get all bent out of shape, you do know msnbc has more air time dedicated to opinon shows, right?

News networks don't win Pulitzers (that's for print and online media). They compete for News Emmys, I believe.

[Ceyrin]

Sorry, I do not subscribe to FOX's bullshit. The opposite of FOX is truth. Not some made up socialist villain who wants you to get abortions and have gay sex.


BOOM HAT TRICK!!!

That didn't take long.

[Parkbandit]

What is that supposed to mean?

153 / 155 / 158 / 169

[Androidpk]

I wouldn't consider either one of them "extremes of the political spectrum".

How do you figure?

[Back]

Some people, like yourself, are utterly blind to the existence of anything that takes you outside of your comfort zone.

Like I have a comfort zone?

Dude. I'm not what you want me to be. Yeah, I get it, you have some invisible foe someone has convinced you is your enemy. I could say listen and think, but the think part can be a little hard for some people.

[Gelston]

News networks don't win Pulitzers (that's for print and online media). They compete for News Emmys, I believe.

Going through the lists, it looks like the pretty much only ever award them to newspaper journalists. They do have a prize that gets awarded to a media organization as a whole, but that has always been newspapers from what I see.

[Parkbandit]

Like I have a comfort zone?

Dude. I'm not what you want me to be. Yeah, I get it, you have some invisible foe someone has convinced you is your enemy. I could say listen and think, but the think part can be a little hard for some people.

Ok, now stop. I feel like you are wasting all this stupidity on one day. What the hell are we supposed to do tomorrow or the next day!??

[Back]

I'm off work tomorrow too!

[Gelston]

Oh, here it is....

"Only published reports and photographs by United States-based newspapers or daily news organizations are eligible for the journalism prize."

Fox News isn't even eligible to get one. Neither is CNN or MSNBC or Headline News or any other TV news network/anchor.

[Tgo01]

Oh, here it is....

"Only published reports and photographs by United States-based newspapers or daily news organizations are eligible for the journalism prize."

Fox News isn't even eligible to get one. Neither is CNN or MSNBC or Headline News or any other TV news network/anchor.

But Fixt news hasn't won one therefore they suck!!!

[Ker_Thwap]

Where did he claim he was unbiased.. or even the Supreme of the Unbiased?

You're just being stupid to be stupid at this point. Honestly, if you don't see liberal bias from places like HP and MSNBC, then there really isn't anything to help you with.

But most of us already knew this...

Excuse me, I never denied it! You may refer to me henceforth as El Supremo!

[Parkbandit]

How do you figure?

Let's say we have our -10 0 +10 spectrum line. You believe that HP is -10 and Fox is +10?

I'd put Communist websites far more left than HP.. and Libertarian websites further right than Fox.

[Ker_Thwap]

Rofl, you have to pay $50 and enter yourself into categories to be considered for a Pulitzer. I should start an award for something that has tons of categories and have people pay me money to enter.

The "Who's Who" book people already beat you to it.

[Parkbandit]

I'm off work tomorrow too!

Dammit.. if you didn't force me to rep you this morning, I would actually give you a positive rep for this!

Make sure you drink as much as you did today! It's Noon somewhere!!

[Gelston]

Let's say we have our -10 0 +10 spectrum line. You believe that HP is -10 and Fox is +10?

I'd put Communist websites far more left than HP.. and Libertarian websites further right than Fox.

I'd go -4 +5 as an average for both. Straight up reporting can dip towards 0 on both, but sometimes shit on there gets fucking insane. Like Fox & Friends.

[Ker_Thwap]

Like I have a comfort zone?

Dude. I'm not what you want me to be. Yeah, I get it, you have some invisible foe someone has convinced you is your enemy. I could say listen and think, but the think part can be a little hard for some people.

We can only judge you by your words on this forum. Your stupid stupid words.

[Gelston]

We can only judge you by your words on this forum. Your stupid stupid words.

Does that make them smart words?

[Parkbandit]

I'd go -4 +5 as an average for both. Straight up reporting can dip towards 0 on both, but sometimes shit on there gets fucking insane. Like Fox & Friends.

I'm probably right about there. I'd give MSNBC -6 probably.. just because they are completely over the top... but HP is more like DR.

[Ker_Thwap]

Oh, here it is....

"Only published reports and photographs by United States-based newspapers or daily news organizations are eligible for the journalism prize."

Fox News isn't even eligible to get one. Neither is CNN or MSNBC or Headline News or any other TV news network/anchor.

The fact still remains that Fox has zero Pulitzers! Zero I say! Last I checked, they haven't won Lord Stanley's Cup either. Coincidence?

[Gelston]

The fact still remains that Fox has zero Pulitzers! Zero I say! Last I checked, they haven't won Lord Stanley's Cup either. Coincidence?

Well, I mean... I guess if highest ratings and most money were a prize, they are winning that.

[Ker_Thwap]

Does that make them smart words?

Curses, foiled again! Hoisted on my own petard!

[Ker_Thwap]

Well, I mean... I guess if highest ratings and most money were a prize, they are winning that.

Winning! #Charlie Sheen

[Gelston]

http://www.quickmeme.com/img/0e/0e1bc9ee47057d1886a4f9537e392f1bb675b97d56d719e119 903f49339cf0a5.jpg

[Androidpk]

Let's say we have our -10 0 +10 spectrum line. You believe that HP is -10 and Fox is +10?

I'd put Communist websites far more left than HP.. and Libertarian websites further right than Fox.

Okay.

[Thondalar]

I can't tell if Back is being serious or not in too many posts in this thread to directly link them all...let me try to sum it up so I'm clear on his position...

FOX news and Drudge Report are incredibly biased fear-mongering non-news hacks, but MSNBC and HuffPo are unbiased, normal, legitimate news sources?

Why does it not surprise me that Back is completely incapable of recognizing the bias and hypocrisy of his own camp?

[Thondalar]

Let's say we have our -10 0 +10 spectrum line. You believe that HP is -10 and Fox is +10?

I'd put Communist websites far more left than HP.. and Libertarian websites further right than Fox.

Libertarian further right than Fox? Oh yeah, man...I mean, legalizing all the things Conservatives hate is ultra right-wing.

[Parkbandit]

Bad news today for some of you that get your news from Comedy Central:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwqSAkPMukE

[Warriorbird]

Libertarian further right than Fox? Oh yeah, man...I mean, legalizing all the things Conservatives hate is ultra right-wing.

The Political Compass does a lot better job with ideology than the idea that it is simply left and right.

[Thondalar]

The Political Compass does a lot better job with ideology than the idea that it is simply left and right.

That's precisely my point. Realistically, very few of us are actually "left" or "right", yet we still use that measure more often than any other when referring to each other. I guess it's just easier than getting to know individuals.

Alternately, I would say that the end of the road heading right is Fascism, which no Libertarian would ever be accused of.