French Feminist Group Is Cunting

[Methais]

French feminists' fury as they demand Normandy statue based on famous VJ-day photo is torn down because 'it portrays a sexual assault'

Feminists in France are demanding that an iconic statue based on the famous VJ-day photo is torn down because it ‘portrays a sexual assault’.
The sculpture, which honours a photograph of a kiss in Times Square that captured New York’s celebration as the Second World War ended, is currently on display outside the Caen Memorial Museum near Pegasus Bridge in Normandy.
It has been given to the museum on a one-year loan by the Sculpture Foundation in California to mark the 70th anniversary of the end of the Second World War.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/10/07/1412669276076_wps_69_Unconditional_Surrender_a.jpg
Feminists are calling for the 25ft sculpture to be removed from outside Normandy's Caen Memorial Museum

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/10/07/1412669496726_wps_86_Statue_of_the_famous_mome.jpg
Sculptor J. Seward Johnson Jr. created the giant piece of artwork after being inspired by Alfred Eisenstaedt's historic black and white photograph taken on V-J Day (Victory over Japan Day) on August 14, 1945 (above)

However, the statue – which is 25ft tall and weighs 13 tonnes – has been criticised by French feminists who claim it shows ‘an assault’.
The ‘Unconditional Surrender’ sculpture – which is also nicknamed The Kiss – shows a sailor kissing a woman while one arm is around her waist and another supports her neck.
French feminist group Osez Le Feminisme has complained the statue represents a ‘sexual assault’ because the woman had the kiss 'forced upon her' by the sailor.

The group, which has started a petition calling for it be removed, also claims the photographer who took the original photo – Alfred Eisenstaedt – said the sailor had grabbed and tried to kiss all the women around him before the shot was taken.

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A spokesman for Osez Le Feminisme said: ‘We cannot accept that the Caen Memorial erected a sexual assault as a symbol of peace.

‘We therefore request the removal of this sculpture as soon as possible.

‘The sailor could have laughed with these women, hugged them, asked them if he could kiss them with joy.

‘No, he chose to grab them with a firm hand to kiss them. It was an assault.’

The petition has so far attracted more than 700 signatures.

However, Stephane Grimaldi, director of the Caen Memorial Museum, said the woman in the photograph had always maintained she had been happy to have been kissed.
‘She never considered that she was assaulted,’ he said.

But feminists have claimed the woman - Greta Zimmer Friedman from Austria – has previously said she had been unable to escape.

In 2012, Ms Friedman said: 'I have not seen him approaching, and before I understand what is happening, I found myself gripped in a vice. You caught me. This man was very strong. I kissed it, it was he who kissed me.’

However, despite her recollection, the dental nurse has never made a complaint.

The historic black and white photograph was captured on V-J Day (Victory over Japan Day) on August 14, 1945 by photographer Alfred Eisenstaedt.
Sailor George Mendonsa has been identified as the man in the photo who kissed Ms Friedman in Midtown Manhattan as the nation celebrated the end of the conflict.
The picture was published by LIFE magazine and has become a symbol of the nation's joy at seeing an end to the devastating fighting that claimed the lives of more than 400,000 Americans.

Sculptor J. Seward Johnson Jr. said he created the giant piece of artwork, inspired by the photograph, because he wanted to keep the famous pose alive.
It was put in place in Normandy by cranes and construction crews on September 23.

The museum said it has no plans to remove the statue, which will stay on its current site for the next 12 months.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2783251/French-feminists-fury-demand-Normandy-statue-based-famous-VJ-day-photo-torn-portrays-sexual-assault.html

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[Allereli]

so grabbing random women is okay to you?

[Fallen]

I would imagine his point is that it is cunty to demand an iconic image (and related sculptures) that was never before associated with sexual assault be torn down for that very reason. It does nothing to help the feminist cause. It just makes them look like alarmists.

[Allereli]

I would imagine his point is that it is cunty to demand an iconic image (and related sculptures) that was never before associated with sexual assault be torn down for that very reason. It does nothing to help the feminist cause. It just makes them look like alarmists.

yes, but romanticizing the circumstances around the image doesn't help women either. If it were a video of the guy walking around trying to kiss women, I bet there would be a much bigger ICK reaction.

[Wrathbringer]

so grabbing random women is okay to you?

Yes.

[Latrinsorm]

I would imagine his point is that it is cunty to demand an iconic image (and related sculptures) that was never before associated with sexual assault be torn down for that very reason. It does nothing to help the feminist cause. It just makes them look like alarmists.Swastikas were never associated with evil before the Nazis either. That doesn't make a Nazi flag innocuous.

And if you think it does you're probably a Nazi. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Fallen]

Swastikas were never associated with evil before the Nazis either. That doesn't make a Nazi flag innocuous.

And if you think it does you're probably a Nazi. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

What? That comparison makes no sense. Did you just Godwin the thread on purpose?

[Tgo01]

I'm pretty sure the woman in the photo/sculpture never claimed she was sexually assaulted.

[Methais]

so grabbing random women is okay to you?

So you think the statue should be taken down because it supposedly represents omgsexualassault?

[Parkbandit]

I'm pretty sure the woman in the photo/sculpture never claimed she was sexually assaulted.

That is beside the point. There was obviously a man taking advantage of a girl and therefore should be charged with rape. -Allereli

[Allereli]

omgsexualassault?

I don't think the photo should be considered iconic anymore now that the fact that he was going around grabbing women has gotten out. maybe that was socially acceptable back then, but it sure as hell isn't now.

way to trivialize sexual assault. that and your use of the word "cunting" really shows how you feel about women.

[Parkbandit]

I don't think the photo should be considered iconic anymore now that the fact that he was going around grabbing women has gotten out. maybe that was socially acceptable back then, but it sure as hell isn't now.

way to trivialize sexual assault. that and your use of the word "cunting" really shows how you feel about women.

Seriously Methais... a better term would be to use "Vagining". Cunt is a slur.

[Wrathbringer]

I don't think the photo should be considered iconic anymore now that the fact that he was going around grabbing women has gotten out. maybe that was socially acceptable back then, but it sure as hell isn't now.

way to trivialize sexual assault. that and your use of the word "cunting" really shows how you feel about women.

http://www.mixednutsclowns.com/wpimages/wpa329ce6a.gif

[Tgo01]

I don't think the photo should be considered iconic anymore now that the fact that he was going around grabbing women has gotten out. maybe that was socially acceptable back then, but it sure as hell isn't now

The guy was happy the war was ending, he wasn't looking for women to assault.

[Allereli]

The guy was happy the war was ending, he wasn't looking for women to assault.

Jerry Sandusky was happy he won a bunch of football games, he wasn't looking to hurt the kids.

[Tgo01]

Jerry Sandusky was happy he won a bunch of football games, he wasn't looking to hurt the kids.

Don't compare consenting adults to child molestation please. Think of the children :(

[Androidpk]

The guy was happy the war was ending, he wasn't looking for women to assault.

Being happy means you can force yourself on others? Even you can see how stupid that line of thinking is.

[Tenlaar]

The guy was happy the war was ending, he wasn't looking for women to assault.

Obviously! I mean, when it was announced that Bin Laden had been killed I roamed the streets grabbing knockers for a few minutes.

The first few cunts resisted, but eventually I got one who was too shocked to put up a proper defense. It was a great day for America.

[Tenlaar]

Don't compare consenting adults to child molestation please. Think of the children :(

Consenting, do you know what it means?

[Wrathbringer]

Jerry Sandusky was happy he won a bunch of football games, he wasn't looking to hurt the kids.

When you can't adequately defend your position, change the subject amirite?

[Wrathbringer]

Obviously! I mean, when it was announced that Bin Laden had been killed I roamed the streets grabbing knockers for a few minutes.

The first few cunts resisted, but eventually I got one who was too shocked to put up a proper defense. It was a great day for America.

Lol'd

[Tgo01]

Being happy means you can force yourself on others? Even you can see how stupid that line of thinking is.

I already said the woman never said she was sexually assaulted.

I guess by your logic if a woman doesn't consider it sexual assault it is in fact sexual assault.

Does the PC even reside in the real world anymore?

[Methais]

I don't think the photo should be considered iconic anymore now that the fact that he was going around grabbing women has gotten out. maybe that was socially acceptable back then, but it sure as hell isn't now.

way to trivialize sexual assault. that and your use of the word "cunting" really shows how you feel about women.

Riiiight. Because normal feminists, and these rabid omgeverythingisrape cunts are totally the same thing. Just like normal Christians are the same as Westboro Baptists Church members. Right?

I don't have a problem with women. But I really can't stand cunts.

PS:

However, Stephane Grimaldi, director of the Caen Memorial Museum, said the woman in the photograph had always maintained she had been happy to have been kissed.
‘She never considered that she was assaulted,’ he said.

But feminists have claimed the woman - Greta Zimmer Friedman from Austria – has previously said she had been unable to escape.

In 2012, Ms Friedman said: 'I have not seen him approaching, and before I understand what is happening, I found myself gripped in a vice. You caught me. This man was very strong. I kissed it, it was he who kissed me.’

However, despite her recollection, the dental nurse has never made a complaint.

It's almost like you're completely unable to apply context to a situation. Otherwise that would mean when Pam Beasley kissed Jim Halpert during the Dundee awards in The Office, which Jim had no idea was coming, she was totally sexually assaulting/raping him, as demonstrated in the first part of this clip:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Au5u1Fkn7wc

Pam Beasley is a rapist!

[Allereli]

When you can't adequately defend your position, change the subject amirite?

that's not changing the subject, that's an analogy.

[Tgo01]

Consenting, do you know what it means?

Did she tell him no? Did she say she was assaulted? Did she call the police? Has anyone but this feminist group ever claimed this was sexual assault?

Do YOU know what consent means?

[Androidpk]

I already said the woman never said she was sexually assaulted.

I guess by your logic if a woman doesn't consider it sexual assault it is in fact sexual assault.

Does the PC even reside in the real world anymore?

Was the kiss consensual yes or no?

[Allereli]

I already said the woman never said she was sexually assaulted.

I guess by your logic if a woman doesn't consider it sexual assault it is in fact sexual assault.

Does the PC even reside in the real world anymore?

lot's of women don't realize when they are sexually assaulted, especially back then women when were treated very much like property

[Wrathbringer]

that's not changing the subject, that's an analogy.

A poor one.

[Tenlaar]

Do YOU know what consent means?

"I have not seen him approaching, and before I understand what is happening, I found myself gripped in a vice. You caught me. This man was very strong."

Consenting, mother fucker, do you speak it?

[Tgo01]

Was the kiss consensual yes or no?

You tell me.

[Allereli]

A poor one.

not really

[Tgo01]

lot's of women don't realize when they are sexually assaulted, especially back then women when were treated very much like property

Right. Okay.

[Wrathbringer]

lot's of women don't realize when they are sexually assaulted, especially back then women when were treated very much like property

Ah, the good old days.

[Vorpos]

Riiiight. Because normal feminists, and these rabid omgeverythingisrape cunts are totally the same thing. Just like normal Christians are the same as Westboro Baptists Church members. Right?

I don't have a problem with women. But I really can't stand cunts.

PS:


It's almost like you're completely unable to apply context to a situation. Otherwise that would mean when Pam Beasley kissed Jim Halpert during the Dundee awards in The Office, which Jim had no idea was coming, she was totally sexually assaulting/raping him, as demonstrated in the first part of this clip:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Au5u1Fkn7wc

Pam Beasley is a rapist!

Shouldn't you be busy working to pay for her abortions?

[Androidpk]

You tell me.

It was a yes or no question.

[Tgo01]

"I have not seen him approaching, and before I understand what is happening, I found myself gripped in a vice. You caught me. This man was very strong."

Consenting, mother fucker, do you speak it?

So where in there did she say she didn't want to be kissed and felt sexually assaulted?

[Tgo01]

It was a yes or no question.

So was mine.

[Wrathbringer]

Dressed like that she was obviously asking for it.

[Methais]

lot's of women don't realize when they are sexually assaulted, especially back then women when were treated very much like property

"No, you don't know what just happened to you. Even though you say you were ok with it, you really weren't and you just don't realize it. That's why I'm here, to make that decision for you!"

Please answer my other question -- Did Pam sexually assault Jim?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Au5u1Fkn7wc

[Allereli]

Ah, the good old days.

yes, fuck women for wanting to own their bodies.

[Allereli]

"No, you don't know what just happened to you. Even though you say you were ok with it, you really weren't and you just don't realize it. That's why I'm here, to make that decision for you!"

Please answer my other question -- Did Pam sexually assault Jim?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Au5u1Fkn7wc

no, i'm not going to answer your question

[Wrathbringer]

yes, fuck women for wanting to own their bodies.

Now you're talking sense.

[Tenlaar]

Please answer my other question -- Did Pam sexually assault Jim?

You obviously don't know The Office very well. Jim wanted to kiss Pam since the day they met, which was years before. Comparing that to grabbing a random woman who has no idea who you are and laying one on her is just stupid.

[Methais]

yes, fuck women

I knew you'd get it eventually.


Thread: French Feminist Group Is Cunting
stay classy, loser

Boy I wonder who that was!

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_byRmVzqqw9w/SmzvCVbixJI/AAAAAAAAC8A/MwSea-vLUqs/les-lye-barth.jpg

[Methais]

You obviously don't know The Office very well. Jim wanted to kiss Pam since the day they met, which was years before. Comparing that to grabbing a random woman who has no idea who you are and laying one on her is just stupid.

I know The Office quite well. The fact that Jim liked Pam the whole time is irrelevant, because Pam didn't know that Jim wanted her to kiss him.

Therefore she either sexually assaulted him, or because Jim was cool with it, just like how the WW2 chick was cool with it, it wasn't sexual assault.

So which is it? It can't be one way for Pam and one for the WW2 chick.

http://cdn3.fashionablygeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/dwight-schrute-fact.jpg?22a92a

[Androidpk]

So where in there did she say she didn't want to be kissed and felt sexually assaulted?

Who would have guessed you are a complete creep. Shocker.​

[Methais]

no, i'm not going to answer your question

Why not? Afraid you might have to contradict yourself because only men are capable of sexual assault in your world? Or because you're afraid that you might have to apply some non-raging feminist reality into the WW2 kiss?

[Tgo01]

Who would have guessed you are a complete creep. Shocker.​

So the answer to my question is no where?

Thanks for playing.

I love modern day feminists. "Trust us. We know what's best for you."

[Tenlaar]

Pam didn't know that Jim wanted her to kiss him.

Nope. They had been flirting for years. She knew that Jim liked her, she just denied their feelings to the public because she felt guilty about it due to her engagement with Roy.

[Allereli]

Why not? Afraid you might have to contradict yourself because only men are capable of sexual assault in your world? Or because you're afraid that you might have to apply some non-raging feminist reality into the WW2 kiss?

no because once again you are trivializing the issue of sexual assault

[Wrathbringer]

So the answer to my question is no where?

Thanks for playing.

I love modern day feminists. "Trust us. We know what's best for you and we're generally unattractive."

.

[Astray]

Why did I open this topic? Why?

[Tgo01]

Why did I open this topic? Why?

It had the word cunt in the title.

[Astray]

It had the word cunt in the title.

I saw the words 'feminist' and 'cunt' and thought this couldn't really be a thing. Turns out it's a thing.

[Allereli]

Boy I wonder who that was!

if you think it was me, it was not

[Androidpk]

Who would have guessed that Tgo, Methais, and wrathbringer are sexists as well as completely fucking creepy. Classy, dudes.

[Methais]

Nope. They had been flirting for years. She knew that Jim liked her, she just denied their feelings to the public because she felt guilty about it due to her engagement with Roy.

I don't recall Pam getting consent from Jim ahead of time. Plus she was really drunk.

Therefore according to feminist logic, that's sexual assault. I can make these decisions because I'm a masculinist and I know better than Jim does. Jim didn't realize what had just happened to him, especially with as common as it is these days for women to treat men like pieces of meat that they can just sexualize at will, and it's my duty to look out for naive people like Mr. Halpert.


no because once again you are trivializing the issue of sexual assault

How so? By comparing an unexpected kiss a man gave a women to an unexpected kiss a woman gave to a man?

Yes, such trivialization. It's ok, I didn't expect you to ever answer it anyway, because you would have to actually face some reality in doing so, and we can't have that.

Suppose the situations were reversed and the woman grabbed the sailor and kissed him instead. Would that still be sexual assault?

[Tgo01]

Who would have guessed that Tgo, Methais, and WB are sexists as well as completely fucking creepy. Classy, dudes.

When you have no evidence to back up your arguments just resort to slander.

Classy, dude.

[Wrathbringer]

Who would have guessed that Tgo, Methais, and WB are sexists as well as completely fucking creepy. Classy, dudes.

I know that I, for one, am shocked.

[Androidpk]

It isn't slander if it's true.

[Tgo01]

It isn't slander if it's true.

Your trolling sucks.

[Methais]

if you think it was me, it was not

I don't.


Who would have guessed that Tgo, Methais, and WB are sexists as well as completely fucking creepy. Classy, dudes.

http://i.imgur.com/iJnStKw.jpg

[Allereli]

How so? By comparing an unexpected kiss a man gave a women to an unexpected kiss a woman gave to a man?

by comparing it to a fucking sitcom

[Methais]

It isn't slander if it's true.

Can you explain the meaning of sexist to us? I'd really like to hear your version of what it means.

[Methais]

by comparing it to a fucking sitcom

Ok then.

Let's pretend the woman kissed the sailor instead of the sailor kissing the woman.

Is that still sexual assault?

[Tisket]

Who would have guessed that Tgo, Methais, and WB are sexists as well as completely fucking creepy. Classy, dudes.

WB = Warriorbird to most PCers. To be clear here, Warriorbird has not posted in this thread yet.

[Astray]

Thread: French Feminist Group Is Cunting
my butt sharting is a thing

Well, sure, I guess.

[Androidpk]

WB = Warriorbird to most PCers. To be clear here, Warriorbird has not posted in this thread yet.

Good point, I'll fix that.

[Methais]

Well, sure, I guess.

Confirmed that Allereli is the shart repper.

[Tisket]

I'm wondering if people would consider all the unasked for hugging that was going on around the square at the same time on the same day as when that photo was taken as simple assault? There was touching after all!!

[Wrathbringer]

Good point, I'll fix that.

Good, because it matters.

[Allereli]

Ok then.

Let's pretend the woman kissed the sailor instead of the sailor kissing the woman.

Is that still sexual assault?

yes, when the woman walks around grabbing men, holding them down and trying to kiss them that is sexual assault. he didn't just grab this one woman and "steal a kiss," he walked around grabbing multiple women in the crowd and attempting to kiss them. it's not necessarily what he did in the picture or her acceptance or non-acceptance of it, it's what he did leading up to the picture that puts the image in a different light.

[Tgo01]

yes, when the woman walks around grabbing men, holding them down and trying to kiss them that is sexual assault. he didn't just grab this one woman and "steal a kiss," he walked around grabbing multiple women in the crowd and attempting to kiss them. it's not necessarily what he did in the picture or her acceptance or non-acceptance of it, it's what he did leading up to the picture that puts the image in a different light.

Keep moving them goal posts.

[Parkbandit]

lot's of women don't realize when they are sexually assaulted, especially back then women when were treated very much like property

lolwut?

So, when they don't know.. all they have to do is ask someone like you and you will tell them "Yes, you were sexually assaulted!"

[Tisket]

Good, because it matters.

I doubt Warriorbird would want to be compared to you in any way so yes, it matters.

[Parkbandit]

"No, you don't know what just happened to you. Even though you say you were ok with it, you really weren't and you just don't realize it. That's why I'm here, to make that decision for you!"

Please answer my other question -- Did Pam sexually assault Jim?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Au5u1Fkn7wc

Dude.. didn't you know that women can't sexually assault men, because they are just girls. Men have all the power and the women have none.

[Wrathbringer]

I doubt Warriorbird would want to be compared to you in any way so yes, it matters.

Right. :jerkit:

[Methais]

I'm wondering if people would consider all the unasked for hugging that was going on around the square at the same time on the same day as when that photo was taken as simple assault? There was touching after all!!

Next time an empath hugs me I'm reporting them for sexual assault.

[Allereli]

Keep changing them goal posts.

no, I said earlier if there was a video of the incident of him walking around grabbing the women, and then finally grabbing the girl for the picture, there would be a completely different reaction to it. people have dismissed it because she did not say anything after, but as I also said earlier, many women back then didn't know when they were being assaulted.

[Parkbandit]

Who would have guessed you are a complete creep. Shocker.​

Holy Irony Alert.

[Tgo01]

no, I said earlier if there was a video of the incident of him walking around grabbing the women, and then finally grabbing the girl for the picture, there would be a completely different reaction to it. people have dismissed it because she did not say anything after, but as I also said earlier, many women back then didn't know when they were being assaulted.

And pk says I'm sexist. Women back then were not morons.

[Allereli]

And pk says I'm sexist. Women back then were not morons.

no but they were still vowing to obey their husbands in marriage. sexual assault was not reported then like it is now, it doesn't mean it didn't happen

[Methais]

many women back then didn't know when they were being assaulted.



https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/5574110976/hF473E76E/

[Androidpk]

Holy Irony Alert.

Still digging, huh packlash?

[Parkbandit]

Still digging, huh packlash?

No, I find that you saying anyone is a creep is hilarious, given what has been said about you here.

[Candor]

If I may make a suggestion...

Talk to someone who actually lived through WWII (a few are still around) before you make any judgements on this kiss.

Sexual assault is a horrible, ugly, thing. But I think you will fine that few Amercians at the time thought that is what happened here.

[Androidpk]

No, I find that you saying anyone is a creep is hilarious, given what has been said about you here.

http://www.mixednutsclowns.com/wpimages/wpa329ce6a.gif

[Allereli]

Sexual assault is a horrible, ugly, thing. But I think you will fine that few Amercians at the time thought that is what happened here.

at the time no one knew he was walking around grabbing other women and attempting to kiss them, but they got away.

[Methais]

at the time no one knew he was walking around grabbing other women and attempting to kiss them, but they got away.

http://www.mixednutsclowns.com/wpimages/wpa329ce6a.gif

I'm curious who these people were that suddenly came forward, 69 years later.

[Tgo01]

My dad's doctor just hugged him. We are pressing charges.

[Wrathbringer]

Obviously! I mean, when it was announced that Bin Laden had been killed I roamed the streets grabbing knockers for a few minutes.

The first few cunts resisted, but eventually I got one who was too shocked to put up a proper defense. It was a great day for America.

Seriously, this is sig material.

[Wrathbringer]

My dad's doctor just hugged him. We are pressing charges.

:lol:

[Allereli]

http://www.mixednutsclowns.com/wpimages/wpa329ce6a.gif

http://www.mixednutsclowns.com/wpimages/wpa329ce6a.gif

[Methais]

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[Allereli]

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[Wrathbringer]

Lol this thread wins

[Methais]

http://www.mixednutsclowns.com/wpimages/wpa329ce6a.gif

http://sevenmonths.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/van-full-of-cambodians-300x217.jpg

[Tgo01]

http://sevenmonths.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/van-full-of-cambodians-300x217.jpg

That the new Ebola bus?

[Wrathbringer]

I doubt Warriorbird would want to be compared to you in any way so yes, it matters.

Speaking of cunting...

[Valthissa]

a cunning stunt to attract attention to french feminism

[Drew]

I think the time and circumstances have to be considered. It was a time of great joy and spontaneous celebration. In general people wouldn't condone going around kissing random women, today or then. But if you were at a New Years Eve party and were kissed at midnight by some random person would you press charges or consider yourself assaulted?

[Methais]

a cunning stunt to attract attention to french feminism

Isn't the armpit hair enough?


I think the time and circumstances have to be considered. It was a time of great joy and spontaneous celebration. In general people wouldn't condone going around kissing random women, today or then. But if you were at a New Years Eve party and were kissed at midnight by some random person would you press charges or consider yourself assaulted?

WWAD?

[Tgo01]

I think the time and circumstances have to be considered. It was a time of great joy and spontaneous celebration. In general people wouldn't condone going around kissing random women, today or then. But if you were at a New Years Eve party and were kissed at midnight by some random person would you press charges or consider yourself assaulted?

I'm on my phone so someone do me a favor and post a picture of a mistletoe with the caption "you gonna get sexually assaulted"

[Methais]

I'm on my phone so someone do me a favor and post a picture of a mistletoe with the caption "you gonna get sexually assaulted"

http://www.quickmeme.com/img/c3/c343c7223c5d0a1613ca5dc504ff8367e34f586bc1881f5d9a 99180a56532676.jpg

[Tenlaar]

So now we have the ending of a war, New Years, and when under mistletoe as times it is acceptable to grab random people and kiss then whether they are into it or not.

This thread is so full of useful information!

[Tgo01]

So now we have the ending of a war, New Years, and when under mistletoe as times it is acceptable to grab random people and kiss then whether they are into it or not.

This thread is so full of useful information!

What I've learned from this thread is women are apparently too stupid to realize they have been sexually assaulted and people who were born decades after the act know better than the woman in question.

[Wrathbringer]

What I've learned from this thread is women are apparently too stupid to realize they have been sexually assaulted and people who were born decades after the act know better than the woman in question.

And that Tenlaar roamed the streets grabbing knockers when bin laden was killed.

[Candor]

What I've learned from this thread is women are apparently too stupid to realize they have been sexually assaulted and people who were born decades after the act know better than the woman in question.

What I have learned from this thread is that Tgo01 believes that Tgo01 is always right.

[Tgo01]

And that Tenlaar roamed the streets grabbing knockers when bin laden was killed.

Yeah but who didn't do that?

[Tgo01]

What I have learned from this thread is that Tgo01 believes that Tgo01 is always right.

Don't be stupid. Tgo01 knows Tgo01 is always right.

[Methais]

Yeah but who didn't do that?

Queers.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVIwepliNeo

[Allereli]

What I've learned from this thread is women are apparently too stupid to realize they have been sexually assaulted and people who were born decades after the act know better than the woman in question.

So you don't acknowledge that back then women were raised and taught differently than they are now, that back then women were taught that the man was the "master" of the household, that they should obey, that women should be silent.

[Methais]

So you don't acknowledge that back then women were raised and taught differently than they are now, that back then women were taught that the man was the "master" of the household, that they should obey, that women should be silent.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LS37SNYjg8w

[Thondalar]

So you don't acknowledge that back then women were raised and taught differently than they are now, that back then women were taught that the man was the "master" of the household, that they should obey, that women should be silent.

Ah, the good ol' days.

[Jeril]

So you don't acknowledge that back then women were raised and taught differently than they are now, that back then women were taught that the man was the "master" of the household, that they should obey, that women should be silent.

If women "knew their place" back then, why did the guy have to grab more then one to get his kiss? And I don't know about you but both my grandmothers are from that era and no one would have ever accuse them of being obedient.

[Wrathbringer]

Ah, the good ol' days.

Great minds think alike.

[Gnome Rage]

yes, but romanticizing the circumstances around the image doesn't help women either. If it were a video of the guy walking around trying to kiss women, I bet there would be a much bigger ICK reaction.

Seriously, the woman that is in the photo has said that she didn't want him to kiss her, and wasn't expecting it. If you look at the photo, it appears that she has her hands clenched and is kind of trying to push him off of her.

[Allereli]

If women "knew their place" back then, why did the guy have to grab more then one to get his kiss? And I don't know about you but both my grandmothers are from that era and no one would have ever accuse them of being obedient.

jeril, are you really denying that fewer women were reporting sexual assault back then? but I really can't take you seriously knowing how you try to force yourself on text.

[Tisket]

Speaking of cunting...

Not everything is about you.

[Wrathbringer]

Not everything is about you.

it would appear the tag cloud for this thread disagrees.

[Tgo01]

If women "knew their place" back then, why did the guy have to grab more then one to get his kiss?

Hey, get outta my head! I was going to post that if this guy was supposedly going around grabbing women to find one to kiss then it sure as hell sounds like he wasn't kissing them against their will, otherwise he would have kissed all of them.

[Tgo01]

Seriously, the woman that is in the photo has said that she didn't want him to kiss her

Where has she said this?

[Taernath]

I didn't read the first 5 pages, but none of the people (supposedly) involved gave a shit, therefore neither do I.

[Candor]

Seriously, the woman that is in the photo has said that she didn't want him to kiss her, and wasn't expecting it. If you look at the photo, it appears that she has her hands clenched and is kind of trying to push him off of her.

A number of women have claimed to be the woman in that picture. ABC (I think on the program 20/20) did considerable research on the subject several years ago, and they narrowed it down (from I think an initial pool of over 20 women) to three possible women. They were unable to make a final determination which one of the three women was the woman in the picture. There is also the possibility that the none of the three women was actually the woman in the picture.

So I would like to know how YOU (or whatever source you are making the claim from) knows exactly who the woman was...

[Warriorbird]

Seriously, the woman that is in the photo has said that she didn't want him to kiss her, and wasn't expecting it. If you look at the photo, it appears that she has her hands clenched and is kind of trying to push him off of her.

I think there is, shockingly, a middle ground here. The woman wasn't thrilled with the guy who was kissing everybody. She didn't consider it worthy of a complaint. You can think a kiss is unwanted and excessive and not declare it "sexual assault" and trivialize real sexual assault in the process...


WB = Warriorbird to most PCers. To be clear here, Warriorbird has not posted in this thread yet.

Correct like usual.

[Methais]

I think there is, shockingly, a middle ground here. The woman wasn't thrilled with the guy who was kissing everybody. She didn't consider it worthy of a complaint. You can think a kiss is unwanted and excessive and not declare it "sexual assault" and trivialize real sexual assault in the process....

In before you get labeled a sexist creep. And that it really was worthy of a complaint but she just didn't have anyone there to inform her of that since she didn't know any better.

And shart rep.

[Tgo01]

I think there is, shockingly, a middle ground here. The woman wasn't thrilled with the guy who was kissing everybody. She didn't consider it worthy of a complaint. You can think a kiss is unwanted and excessive and not declare it "sexual assault" and trivialize real sexual assault in the process...

Hey! Admit that the woman was too stupid to realize she was sexually assaulted, you sexist pig!

[Candor]

I think there is, shockingly, a middle ground here. The woman wasn't thrilled with the guy who was kissing everybody. She didn't consider it worthy of a complaint. You can think a kiss is unwanted and excessive and not declare it "sexual assault" and trivialize real sexual assault in the process...

Well stated.

[Tgo01]

At least two people didn't think it was sexual assault; the two people supposedly kissing in the picture: (http://www.navytimes.com/article/20121019/NEWS/210190332/Famous-kissers-weigh-photo-controversy)


Feminist bloggers are saying the iconic image of a sailor kissing a nurse on V-J Day in Times Square depicts an act of sexual assault.

At least two people, however, disagree — the sailor and the woman, who was actually a dental assistant, in Alfred Eisenstaedt's famous Life magazine photo.

George Mendonsa and Greta Zimmer Friedman — identified as the kissing couple by "The Kissing Sailor," a book published this year by the U.S. Naval Institute — called the moment an act of unbridled celebration.

"I can't think of anybody who considered that as an assault," said Friedman, who exchanges Christmas cards with Mendonsa every year and has appeared with him at several reunion events. "It was a happy event."

[Gnome Rage]

Where has she said this?

BUUUH.

I watched a documentary or something. Fuck if I remember, I never claimed to have the facts :P :P :P

[Methais]

At least two people didn't think it was sexual assault; the two people supposedly kissing in the picture: (http://www.navytimes.com/article/20121019/NEWS/210190332/Famous-kissers-weigh-photo-controversy)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NM-6eAZy6FE

[Wrathbringer]

BUUUH.

I watched a documentary or something. Fuck if I remember, I never claimed to have the facts :P :P :P

http://www.mixednutsclowns.com/wpimages/wpa329ce6a.gif

[~Rocktar~]

no because once again you are trivializing the issue of sexual assault

The only people trivializing sexual assault are these extremist whackjobs who dilute the meaning of sexual assault trying to apply it to everything becuase of their deep seated self hatred and fear. Just like those that want to call all Muslims evil when it is only the whackjobs, diluting the importance and power of the message serves no one other than the attention seeking who want to be recognized and treated as some special flower since they self identify as a victim. It makes real victims, those who really are assaulted, abused and so on less likely to be believed and less likely to get help.

Sexual assault is wrong and trivializing in this manner is wrong.

Be excellent to each other. And... PARTY ON

[Allereli]

so once again, assuming it is true that the photographer said the man was walking around grabbing women before the picture was taken, if there was a video of this, there would be no statue. If the moment is so pure, then the sculptor should put the woman's hand back into a fist.

[Tgo01]

If the moment is so pure, then the sculptor should put the woman's hand back into a fist.

http://cmsimg.navytimes.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=M6&Date=20121019&Category=NEWS&ArtNo=210190332&Ref=AR&MaxW=300&Border=0&Famous-kissers-weigh-photo-controversy

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/10/07/1412669276076_wps_69_Unconditional_Surrender_a.jpg

Looks pretty spot on to me.

[Allereli]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/10/07/1412669496726_wps_86_Statue_of_the_famous_mome.jpg

[Tgo01]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/10/07/1412669496726_wps_86_Statue_of_the_famous_mome.jpg

You phrased it as if the sculptor changed a key feature of the photo to hide something. You are simply looking at a different photo than the sculptor used.

[Allereli]

You phrased it as if the sculptor changed a key feature of the photo to hide something. You are simply looking at a different photo than the sculptor used.

either way it looks like she was struggling

[Methais]

either way it looks like she was struggling

Accept defeat. Someone who has been truly sexually assaulted will thank you one day.

[JackWhisper]

Just blame Samuel L. Jackson.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMl9oYSVGlo

[Back]

Accept defeat. Someone who has been truly sexually assaulted will thank you one day.

Why are you so offended that someone is offended by it? If you don't give a fuck why someone would be offended by it why should we give a fuck you are offended that someone is offended by it?

[Methais]

Why are you so offended that someone is offended by it? If you don't give a fuck why someone would be offended by it why should we give a fuck you are offended that someone is offended by it?

You know how over the past however many years people have played the race card so much that everything is considered racist now and true racism got marginalized in the process? Apply that same concept to this.

And why do you give a fuck if I give a fuck? And who is this "we" you speak of? Nobody is behind you because the one thing everyone on the PC has in common is that we all think you're retarded. Even the shart repper.

[Astray]

The one thing everyone on the PC has in common is that we all think you're retarded.

I can't speak for everyone but I'm pretty sure Back has a drool guard and helmet.

[JackWhisper]

One of those sweet motorcycle helmets, or one of those Billy Madison football sleeping helmets?

[Astray]

One of those sweet motorcycle helmets, or one of those Billy Madison football sleeping helmets?

Billy Madison. But I'm sure he's got some stickers on it.

http://media.urbandictionary.com/image/page/helmet-7755.jpg

If someone can crop Back's avatar on there, I will change mine.

[JackWhisper]

ROFL. That'll be hilarious. Someone do it. Make sure it's facing the right way though!

[Back]

You know how over the past however many years people have played the race card so much that everything is considered racist now and true racism got marginalized in the process? Apply that same concept to this.

So, am I to understand, that you are answering the question of why you care that people are offended by something is because you think that people being offended by something is marginalizing the issue they are offended by?

I disagree with that. I think it is people who dismiss, turn a blind eye, refuse to discuss, or otherwise try to sweep issues under the rug are the ones marginalizing them.


And why do you give a fuck if I give a fuck? And who is this "we" you speak of? Nobody is behind you because the one thing everyone on the PC has in common is that we all think you're retarded. Even the shart repper.

Asking you why "we the general audience" should care about something you freely put up here isn't the same thing as you claiming to know what "everyone one this board" thinks about something.

[Back]

Billy Madison. But I'm sure he's got some stickers on it.

http://media.urbandictionary.com/image/page/helmet-7755.jpg

If someone can crop Back's avatar on there, I will change mine.

How do you mean? Like make my avatar small enough to put on the front of the helmet?

[Astray]

Like make my avatar small enough to put on the front of the helmet?

Yes! If you want, you can pretend it's your very own helmet, okay buddy? High five!

[JackWhisper]

I don't often side with Methais, but be real Back. The sexual assault card is pulled so easily by Allereli it's like flicking her bean. Shit just pops up everywhere you look. I agree that sexual assault is sexual assault, but come ON. The woman was surprised, and shocked, but she did not slap the guy afterwards, did interviews saying they kept in touch and were friendly, no charges were filed, she didn't think it was bad, nothing. And, in this day and age of women being ABLE to announce they were assaulted, she has openly said it was not assault. Just an utter and complete surprise and shock, initially. Hence her rigid posture and stance changed over the course of the photos.

People need to have some god damned common sense. She said it wasn't assault. Nobody bludgeoned her into saying it. Period.

[JackWhisper]

And no! He means just the HEAD of your avatar with the helmet. Same avatar, just with the Helmet put on! WOO!

[Astray]

And no! He means just the HEAD of your avatar with the helmet. Same avatar, just with the Helmet put on! WOO!

That'd be a bit of work. Just change the color of the guy glittering red and put "BACK" on the helmet.

[Back]

Yes! If you want, you can pretend it's your very own helmet, okay buddy? High five!

Have fun!

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[Astray]

http://new1.fjcdn.com/comments/4977489+_bb30a6230f4deeb4e95b912a4995af53.jpg

Just gonna leave this here.

[Androidpk]

I don't often side with Methais, but be real Back. The sexual assault card is pulled so easily by Allereli it's like flicking her bean. Shit just pops up everywhere you look. I agree that sexual assault is sexual assault, but come ON. The woman was surprised, and shocked, but she did not slap the guy afterwards, did interviews saying they kept in touch and were friendly, no charges were filed, she didn't think it was bad, nothing. And, in this day and age of women being ABLE to announce they were assaulted, she has openly said it was not assault. Just an utter and complete surprise and shock, initially. Hence her rigid posture and stance changed over the course of the photos.

People need to have some god damned common sense. She said it wasn't assault. Nobody bludgeoned her into saying it. Period.

Regardless of what was said or not said that sort of behavior should not be tolerated by anyone. Imagine some strange dude coming up and doing that to your girl.

[Astray]

Have fun!

I'm a man of my word.

[JackWhisper]

Also, preferably with the retard lip expression. Just saying.

[RSR]

Regardless of what was said or not said that sort of behavior should not be tolerated by anyone. Imagine me strange dude coming up and doing that to your girl.

Would you steal from her GS account while you were at it?

[JackWhisper]

AAAHAHAHA Astray. Epic.

[Astray]

AAAHAHAHA Astray. Epic.
I'll have someone fiddle with the two pictures.

[Vorpos]

Regardless of what was said or not said that sort of behavior should not be tolerated by anyone. Imagine me strange dude coming up and doing that to your girl.

His girl? Like his car or his house? That sounds pretty sexist treating women like property.

[Back]

And no! He means just the HEAD of your avatar with the helmet. Same avatar, just with the Helmet put on! WOO!

7014

Alright buddy.

[Astray]

http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/083/0/4/check_your_privilege__bingo__by_plumpiepelican-d5z2lqd.png

Last post from me tonight!

[Androidpk]

His girl? Like his car or his house? That sounds pretty sexist treating women like property.

GF

[Back]

Also, preferably with the retard lip expression. Just saying.

7015

Are we done yet?

[JackWhisper]

That just looks fucking hilarious.

[JackWhisper]

AAAAAAAAHAHAHHAA BACK! OH MY GOD SAVED! ROFLMAOOOO

[Laviticas]

I thought it appropriate to add this to the conversation. It's iconic and it looks like a damn good time.

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[JackWhisper]

This woman knows her place.

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[Laviticas]

I can't make my mind up. Is the dude standing behind the Duke sporting wood and they blacked it out or is that part of his chaps?

[JackWhisper]

That's his chaps dude. Stop focusing on the guys dick region.

[Warriorbird]

Would you steal from her GS account while you were at it?

Daaamn.

[JackWhisper]

PK dude, straight up. If WORLD WAR THREE had just ended, and a random fucking sailor who JUST came home FROM fighting that war, walked up to my woman right next to me, and full on tongued her throat, I would not give a flying god damn rats ass.

Think before you write. The circumstances of this were exceptional. The guy wasn't trolling for ass. He was elated because the war was over. So was the woman. So was her boyfriend/husband if she had one. Nobody gave two shits about a kiss. Nor would you, in the same position.

If you say you would, you're a Nazi.

NAZI!

[Parkbandit]

Would you steal from her GS account while you were at it?

http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?85551-Whither-msconstrew

[Elgrim]

Personally, I find the notion of people telling other people how they feel or should feel is ridiculous. No person or group should have the right to assume to know the feelings or mindset of another person in such a way to demand acts on their behalf unless that person is mentally unfit to judge for themselves. If someone kisses you and you feel assaulted, its assault. If someone kisses you and you are like "wow, wasn't expecting that! But no big deal!" then it isn't assault. I find that pretty damn simple.

While I don't personally condone randomly kissing, grabbing tits or asses, or otherwise violating someone's personal space I also don't think we need groups telling us when we have been assaulted. We are intelligent beings and I think each one of us can make that decision on our own. Hell, some people might actually like the attention.

The point is only the person involved knows how they feel about it. Everyone else is just making assumptions.

[leifastagsweed]

I don't often side with Methais, but be real Back. The sexual assault card is pulled so easily by Allereli it's like flicking her bean. Shit just pops up everywhere you look.

W.T.F. This was a fucked-up troll thread to begin with and then the lot of you bash the only female willing to intelligently face off with you jerks (thanks for the effort, GR). I personally have no problem with the statue or the circumstances upon which the photo was taken, and frankly I have enjoyed it's iconic presence in our history. However, I do take offense to the way you tear at each other like slathering dogs. This put-baby-in-the-corner shit is what makes left-wing feminazis ravenous and converts those of us that sort of like men still. Any other women that want to jump in and white-knight this kind of douchebaggery are just part of the same angry system. Seriously, grow the fuck up and stop bashing other HUMANS.

BTW, why Methais has vaulted to hero-status with some of you on this board is ridiculous. I don't claim to be any great role model, but fuck, why you all hop along like chihuahuas with the bulldog on your way to get Kibbles and Bits is beyond me. Yes, I left you the neg rep for being a shitstain on this board as of late, Meth. Sorry I got low on room for a signature, but I cop to it because I'm sick of you attacking everyone, including me directly. I won't have a pissing contest with you nor threaten with links re. which of us (or anyone else for that matter) has had finer moments on this board, but you clearly win for douchebag these last couple months. Please get laid.

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_me6t0rlLit1qey9tv.jpg

[AnticorRifling]

LOL @ stop bashing other humans...while you're bashing other humans.

[AnticorRifling]

yes, but romanticizing the circumstances around the image doesn't help women either. If it were a video of the guy walking around trying to kiss women, I bet there would be a much bigger ICK reaction.

You mean the circumstances of winning the war?

[leifastagsweed]

LOL @ stop bashing other humans...while you're bashing other humans.

LOL @ Anticor fucking with me when he actually reads the backstories on this shit and knows what's up. Sorry you've had a rough couple weeks, too, bud.

[leifastagsweed]

Personally, I find the notion of people telling other people how they feel or should feel is ridiculous. No person or group should have the right to assume to know the feelings or mindset of another person in such a way to demand acts on their behalf unless that person is mentally unfit to judge for themselves. If someone kisses you and you feel assaulted, its assault. If someone kisses you and you are like "wow, wasn't expecting that! But no big deal!" then it isn't assault. I find that pretty damn simple.

While I don't personally condone randomly kissing, grabbing tits or asses, or otherwise violating someone's personal space I also don't think we need groups telling us when we have been assaulted. We are intelligent beings and I think each one of us can make that decision on our own. Hell, some people might actually like the attention.

The point is only the person involved knows how they feel about it. Everyone else is just making assumptions.

Wait, there is an adult on this board?!?!

Thanks for your input, Elgrim.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Elgrim again.

[JackWhisper]

So you think the woman was sexually assaulted, and the man had ill intent, Leifa?

[AnticorRifling]

LOL @ Anticor fucking with me when he actually reads the backstories on this shit and knows what's up. Sorry you've had a rough couple weeks, too, bud.

What back stories?

[leifastagsweed]

So you think the woman was sexually assaulted, and the man had ill intent, Leifa?

Requoted for your comfort and enjoyment.
I personally have no problem with the statue or the circumstances upon which the photo was taken, and frankly I have enjoyed it's iconic presence in our history.

[AnticorRifling]

So you think the woman was sexually assaulted, and the man had ill intent, Leifa?

I think you can have one without the other. Just because the man had no ill intent doesn't mean the action isn't sexual assault. I think what matters is does the woman feel she was sexually assaulted? Since she herself has said no then this is a non issue.

[JackWhisper]

Who knows. That's just hilarious. Nobody was attacking anyone like a slathering dog. It was like 10 people telling Allereli to stop flapping her vagina wings around.

I especially liked the line where Allereli said women 40 years ago didn't know they were being sexually assaulted. Women today are so much smarter that they've developed self-awareness, apparently. Imagine that, Anticor. What's next? Computers?

Noone gives a rats ass enough to attack Allereli about it. But when you're stupid on PC, your stupid is highlighted and expounded upon. That's how it works here. If you don't want your stupid to be immortalized, don't speak if you aren't right.

Pretty much the entire thread says the woman wasn't assaulted. Including the woman who was apparently assaulted.

[JackWhisper]

Or maybe I just really dislike Allereli because she thinks an 8.5 month baby in a womb is a parasite to be killed. Whatever. I'm an asshole. Owning it!

[Astray]

When you get down to it, babies are parasites.

[JackWhisper]

And people who need to grow the fuck up, Taernath.

[JackWhisper]

Astray I can't take you seriously anymore with that avatar. It's staring. INTO MY SOUL!!!!

[leifastagsweed]

Who knows. That's just hilarious. Nobody was attacking anyone like a slathering dog. It was like 10 people telling Allereli to stop flapping her vagina wings around.

I especially liked the line where Allereli said women 40 years ago didn't know they were being sexually assaulted. Women today are so much smarter that they've developed self-awareness, apparently. Imagine that, Anticor. What's next? Computers?

Noone gives a rats ass enough to attack Allereli about it. But when you're stupid on PC, your stupid is highlighted and expounded upon. That's how it works here. If you don't want your stupid to be immortalized, don't speak if you aren't right.

Pretty much the entire thread says the woman wasn't assaulted. Including the woman who was apparently assaulted.

HAHAHAHA! I like that you surmise that consensus of a vocal minority on this obscure text-based game chat thread equals fact. The only fact I see here is that someone who uses euphemisms like 'flapping her vagina' is a profound pussy and bully wrapped in a neat little package, not to mention a lazy ass verbalist.

[JackWhisper]

Did you see the other one Back posted? Shit is AMAZING.


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[Back]

I especially liked the line where Allereli said women 40 years ago didn't know they were being sexually assaulted. Women today are so much smarter that they've developed self-awareness, apparently. Imagine that, Anticor. What's next? Computers?

You sure know a lot about something you never have and never will experience.

There is a good number of sexual assault cases that go unreported because guess what? In a society dominated by people like yourself this is exactly what happens. A vocal female gets bullied by a bunch of misogynists.

[JackWhisper]

No, Leifa. I take what the woman said as fact. She said it to several sources, including a feminist program who said she said she was assaulted. Also to a news tabloid who said the woman threw herself at the woman. And then she told it to several news outlets that all stated she said she was shocked, surprised, and just happy the war was over, and not offended at all she was kissed. One is left, one is right, one is in the middle. Guess which one is the truth?

[Astray]

Did you see the other one Back posted? Shit is AMAZING.


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Personally like this one a lot more.

[leifastagsweed]

I especially liked the line where Allereli said women 40 years ago didn't know they were being sexually assaulted. Women today are so much smarter that they've developed self-awareness, apparently.

You are actually correct, despite your failed attempt at sarcasm. Women are far better informed today. I don't know a woman (nor a man) who hasn't been involved in something sexually confusing at some point in their life, generally when they are young, impressionable, and uninformed. Not everyone grew up learning about sex watching internet porn.

[leifastagsweed]

No, Leifa. I take what the woman said as fact. She said it to several sources, including a feminist program who said she said she was assaulted. Also to a news tabloid who said the woman threw herself at the woman. And then she told it to several news outlets that all stated she said she was shocked, surprised, and just happy the war was over, and not offended at all she was kissed. One is left, one is right, one is in the middle. Guess which one is the truth?

You seriously have trouble with reading comprehension, but it's ok. We clearly agree about the original issue but you just want to keep talking to me.

[JackWhisper]

You know, that's funny, Back. Because even less men report being sexually assaulted. And that, apparently, happens a lot too. But men feel emasculated when they report that a woman overpowered/took advantage of them. Does that make it right? NOPE.

A woman with valid points would be treated with the same attitude as a man with valid points. PC is quick to trounce on idiots lynching other idiots. You can't tell me there's been anything even remotely recent where someone got to bash on a woman freely just because she was a woman, and then the woman wasn't immediately shored up by a fuckload of PC posters telling said basher to shove his own head up his ass.

Get a clue. It's PC. Not the 1930s.

[JackWhisper]

Damnit Astray!@ The full on head shift one is better!

[Astray]

You seriously have trouble with reading comprehension, but it's ok. We clearly agree about the original issue but you just want to keep talking to me.

To be fair, you are fabulous.

[JackWhisper]

FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAbulous.

[Ker_Thwap]

You sure know a lot about something you never have and never will experience.

Are you suggesting that males can't be sexually assaulted?

[leifastagsweed]

http://memeguy.com/photos/images/i-feel-fabulous-7197.jpg

[JackWhisper]

God damnit. I couldn't find any funny youtube videos about being faaaaabulous. Except this guy.

Leifa, this guy thinks your name is Gemma.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaegPUVWG3k

[Elgrim]

Are you suggesting that males can't be sexually assaulted?

They can. They just usually enjoy it too much to bother complaining :)

Seriously though, what's good for the goose... If women have the right (which they do) to report sexual assault and be taken seriously, then men should feel they have the same right. I do agree with the previous post that a man is more likely to feel emasculated by reporting something like that. On the other hand, many women also live in a world where reporting an assault might earn them a beating. It is wrong, but its the jacked up world we live in.

Unfortunately until everyone on the earth learns to treat each other with respect we will never get any closer to a solution.

[JackWhisper]

That kid needs to respect his t-shirt more. His moms paid good money to swaddle his rotund ass!

[Astray]

They can. They just usually enjoy it too much to bother complaining

Prison rape is so enjoyable.

[Back]

You know, that's funny, Back. Because even less men report being sexually assaulted. And that, apparently, happens a lot too. But men feel emasculated when they report that a woman overpowered/took advantage of them. Does that make it right? NOPE.

A woman with valid points would be treated with the same attitude as a man with valid points. PC is quick to trounce on idiots lynching other idiots. You can't tell me there's been anything even remotely recent where someone got to bash on a woman freely just because she was a woman, and then the woman wasn't immediately shored up by a fuckload of PC posters telling said basher to shove his own head up his ass.

Get a clue. It's PC. Not the 1930s.

True. The entire point of this thread was a troll. Either that or the old "It's tough to be a (white) male in a (white) male dominated society." whining.

[AnticorRifling]

I still want to know what back stories I'm supposed to be privy to!

[AnticorRifling]

True. The entire point of this thread was a troll. Either that or the old "It's tough to be a (white) male in a (white) male dominated society." whining.

Humans, Back, humans. Quit trying to label shit.

[Astray]

I still want to know what back stories I'm supposed to be privy to!

All of them! You're an admin, start learning your secret handshakes and back stories.

[JackWhisper]

Yeah but... it's 21 pages long, and no longer about the original topic, rather than people's opinions of said topic now. And thus, nobody cares if it was a troll. Rather, everyone just wants to reinforce their position of being right, and everyone else being an assclown in a car full of assclowns. Quick, someone grab that gif.

[Elgrim]

Prison rape is so enjoyable.

I'm pretty sure rape and assault are totally separate creatures.

Then again, I'm the kind of person that thinks if you are in prison for a violent crime you deserve every ounce of loving that Bruno has to offer. Hell, the thought of being raped in prison is probably the only thing keeping some people from committing crimes that would put them there. We all know that prison is probably a much nicer alternative to the lives that some of our impoverished citizens have to go through.

[AnticorRifling]

All of them! You're an admin, start learning your secret handshakes and back stories.

That's not how you admin. The less bullshit you know the less favorites you play.

[JackWhisper]

Yeah, Anticor sucks. He won't even tell us who the poop repper is. Tisket knows, I bet.

[Ker_Thwap]

So, overall this thread is weird.

First thing I'd like to comment on is that it's not particularly useful to judge past cultures based on current moral standards. What might cause shock, surprise, and amusement balanced by an overall happiness that the war was over and acceptance that this guy was probably blowing off steam in a generally harmless way in the 1940s... might cause an entirely different reaction in 2014 America.

Second, art itself. The photograph/the sculpture is no different from any other piece of art. It will evoke a feeling in every individual that sees it. That feeling is going to vary with each viewer. To destroy it is akin to book burning. The "Rape of Sabine" has been depicted in various art pieces. Its about a historical abduction (different word meanings back then.) Now, that is one weird piece of art to depicting the intensely passionate struggle of semi nude demi figures.

Third, it's a bit presumptuous to speak for all gender/race/insert group here. This image (http://i.imgur.com/f3w5XVd.png) illustrates that even today, what one person values, another will mock. If nothing else, it's good to have a debate.

[Fallen]

So, overall this thread is weird.

First thing I'd like to comment on is that it's not particularly useful to judge past cultures based on current moral standards. What might cause shock, surprise, and amusement balanced by an overall happiness that the war was over and acceptance that this guy was probably blowing off steam in a generally harmless way in the 1940s... might cause an entirely different reaction in 2014 America.

Second, art itself. The photograph/the sculpture is no different from any other piece of art. It will evoke a feeling in every individual that sees it. That feeling is going to vary with each viewer. To destroy it is akin to book burning. The "Rape of Sabine" has been depicted in various art pieces. Its about a historical abduction (different word meanings back then.) Now, that is one weird piece of art to depicting the intensely passionate struggle of semi nude demi figures.

Third, it's a bit presumptuous to speak for all gender/race/insert group here. This image (http://i.imgur.com/f3w5XVd.png) illustrates that even today, what one person values, another will mock. If nothing else, it's good to have a debate.

Well said.

[Flap]

So, overall this thread is weird.

First thing I'd like to comment on is that it's not particularly useful to judge past cultures based on current moral standards. What might cause shock, surprise, and amusement balanced by an overall happiness that the war was over and acceptance that this guy was probably blowing off steam in a generally harmless way in the 1940s... might cause an entirely different reaction in 2014 America.

Second, art itself. The photograph/the sculpture is no different from any other piece of art. It will evoke a feeling in every individual that sees it. That feeling is going to vary with each viewer. To destroy it is akin to book burning. The "Rape of Sabine" has been depicted in various art pieces. Its about a historical abduction (different word meanings back then.) Now, that is one weird piece of art to depicting the intensely passionate struggle of semi nude demi figures.

Third, it's a bit presumptuous to speak for all gender/race/insert group here. This image (http://i.imgur.com/f3w5XVd.png) illustrates that even today, what one person values, another will mock. If nothing else, it's good to have a debate.

Wait...I'm confused. Does this post make you a feminist cunt, or a pro-rape creep?

[leifastagsweed]

I'd like to comment on is that it's not particularly useful to judge past cultures based on current moral standards. What might cause shock, surprise, and amusement balanced by an overall happiness that the war was over and acceptance that this guy was probably blowing off steam in a generally harmless way in the 1940s... might cause an entirely different reaction in 2014 America.

I love this! Just for another interesting example, watch some really old Bugs Bunny episodes and you're going to see some moral standards that are highly distasteful in today's world. Pop culture is intended to be that = popular for it's time. I personally enjoy the nostalgia of many forms of art and artifacts from the past. While some truths coming to light may change those for me (i.e. - watching the documentary Blackfish took any enjoyment out of marine parks for me), for the most part I tend to enjoy art in it's various forms for the emotion it evokes and I prefer to keep that experience separate from my personal politics. I believe everyone has that same right.

[Ker_Thwap]

Why are all you people responding so quickly on a Wednesday morning? I figured I'd have time to go back and edit that mess for grammar. I was wrong!

[Elgrim]

I love this! Just for another interesting example, watch some really old Bugs Bunny episodes and you're going to see some moral standards that are highly distasteful in today's world. Pop culture is intended to be that = popular for it's time. I personally enjoy the nostalgia of many forms of art and artifacts from the past. While some truths coming to light may change those for me (i.e. - watching the documentary Blackfish took any enjoyment out of marine parks for me), for the most part I tend to enjoy art in it's various forms for the emotion it evokes and I prefer to keep that experience separate from my personal politics. I believe everyone has that same right.

To this point, watch any cartoons or TV shows from the 40's-50's and you will see blatant sexism and racism by today's standards. But it would be nuts for us to demand those cartoons be destroyed or banned. It was a different time and the nation had a different mentality. Right or wrong, we can't apply today's social norms on something that happened what is fast approaching a century ago.

We have evolved, and will continue to evolve (hopefully). Part of this is learning from our mistakes. If we erase any history or example of those mistakes we lose a portion of the compass we are basing our journey on.

Who knows, maybe in another 70 years we will have made it to a point where everyone gets along and respects the fact that we are all different.

The words of John Lennon's song "Imagine" still echo decades after his death. I have faith we will get there one day.

[Taernath]

That's not how you admin. The less bullshit you know the less favorites you play.

Untrue. I know you've been creeping profiles and tracing anonymous rep, PantiecorSniffling.

[JackWhisper]

I'm sick as a dog, thanks to picking my kid up from school on Monday. He got sick, and got me sick, cuz of some dumbfuck parent who let their sick kid infect half the kindergarten class with a cold =(.

So I am home, floating around PC, playing Clash of Clans and Puzzle and Dragons, watching Supernatural on Netflix, chugging Tussin cough medicine. Yussss.

[Elgrim]

chugging Tussin cough medicine. Yussss.

There is nothing that a good shot of tussin won't cure.

[JackWhisper]

12 teaspoons worth in the last 10 hours. All that's happened to my cold is my left nostril is filled with snot now. I want a refund.

[Ker_Thwap]

I'm sick as a dog, thanks to picking my kid up from school on Monday. He got sick, and got me sick, cuz of some dumbfuck parent who let their sick kid infect half the kindergarten class with a cold =(.

So I am home, floating around PC, playing Clash of Clans and Puzzle and Dragons, watching Supernatural on Netflix, chugging Tussin cough medicine. Yussss.

Are you new at this parenting thing? All children, even yours, are tiny plague carriers. Establish the routine, walk in the front door of the house, wash your hands. Not that antiseptic stuff, just plain old soap and water. My kids did this from second grade through high school, and I very rarely got sick myself.

[Elgrim]

12 teaspoons worth in the last 10 hours. All that's happened to my cold is my left nostril is filled with snot now. I want a refund.

You are doing it wrong.

First, teaspoons are for babies. Tussin needs to be chugged straight from the bottle to get the desired effect.

The fast that the snot is in your nostril is proof it is trying to work! Blow that crap out and drive on! :)

[JackWhisper]

Done that a few times. Had an absolutely hilarious moment where I was blowing snot into the sink in the upstairs bathroom, cat jumps up on the sink, gets snot blown into her face, runs headfirst into the mirror freaking out. I about died laughing.

And teaspoons is the measurement in the cup thingie on the top. I've taken 6 doses of the adult measurement. IT AINT WORKIN, PRECIOUS! I WANT MY COUGH to go away. I don't care about the rest. When you cough so often you get a headache from coughing, your world SUCKS.

[Ker_Thwap]

You are doing it wrong.

First, teaspoons are for babies. Tussin needs to be chugged straight from the bottle to get the desired effect.

The fast that the snot is in your nostril is proof it is trying to work! Blow that crap out and drive on! :)

For that matter, buy the pill form. You're just paying more for the liquids, which is sugared and flavored for the kiddies.

[JackWhisper]

No, Ker_Thwap. I'm not new. I didn't know my son was sick until he sneezed on the side of my face when I picked him up and hugged him at school. Then I noticed half the kids were sneezing.

Kind of hard to not get sick when your child gets sick. You roll with the punches to comfort them about their illness. Not treat them like tiny little plague carriers.

And I wash my hands fervently. And have disinfectant wipes. Doesn't always work.

[JackWhisper]

By the way, have we discussed the fact that it's French Feminists?

Aren't a lot of feminists women who refuse to shave their armpits?

Don't French women not do that either?

So are they doubly hairy? Like Chewbacca hairy? And super angry about it?

Stay on topic!

[Androidpk]

All the French girls I know (a whopping 4) shave.

[leifastagsweed]

By the way, have we discussed the fact that it's French Feminists?

Aren't a lot of feminists women who refuse to shave their armpits?

Don't French women not do that either?

So are they doubly hairy? Like Chewbacca hairy? And super angry about it?

Stay on topic!

Jaaaaaaaaack!!!!

http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/000/184/961/tumblr_lnvvueuSsj1qcj56b.png

[Parkbandit]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-_5G6-I9w2Dw/UbHhHP-s03I/AAAAAAAAG1E/0w5jYdqibeA/s400/student-feminism-gallery.jpg

[Elgrim]

Having lived in Europe for several years I can put to bed that rumor. Pretty much every French, German, or Spanish female I encountered while I was there that had a visible armpit was shaven. I think the practice of leaving full body hair vanished in or around the 70's-80's in Europe. I had heard the stereotypes as well and was fully expecting them to be hairy beasts, but that wasn't the case. I think when America began driving pop culture it started the changes in fashion and grooming for most of Europe.

Of course, there are probably plenty of women in Europe who still don't shave, but I'd equate that to the same reasons there are plenty of American women who don't either.

[JackWhisper]

Come on Leifa. It was FUNNY! Admit it!

[Ker_Thwap]

Come on Leifa. It was FUNNY! Admit it!

My plague carrier comment was funnier, but it got your shorts in a twist. Funny how we all get offended by different things.

[Elgrim]

I will say that I did see several older women in Germany that didn't groom. It was scary. Not only that they weren't groomed, but that 60-somethings were showing armpit! :)

[leifastagsweed]

She may have a sandy vag (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v251/andresml/lcphoto4.jpg), but no armpit hair.

[Androidpk]

My plague carrier comment was funnier, but it got your shorts in a twist. Funny how we all get offended by different things.

Parasitic plague carrier.

[JackWhisper]

You didn't offend me Ker! I, as well, assume that my kid is a walking virus refrigerator. Ever since the first time he infected my entire household. He even got one of the DOGS sick. Fucking playdates.

[JackWhisper]

Oh so THAT'S what you meant when you told me to go pound sand, Leifa!

Thanks for clearing it up. I'll get right on it.

[leifastagsweed]

Oh so THAT'S what you meant when you told me to go pound sand, Leif

Thanks for clearing it up. I'll get right on it.

I don't know if it's cleared up yet. You should discuss that with your doctor.

[JackWhisper]

Ooohh, I see what you meant Ker. No, I'd rather comfort my kid and get sick than not. I'm sure you're the same way, when your kid was a 5 year old. Some things you just muscle up and deal with because your kid doesn't need to. =)

[JackWhisper]

You meant HER sand. Right?

Winkwink.
Nudgenudge.

[Androidpk]

I still want to know what back stories I'm supposed to be privy to!

We just want to know who was on the grassy knoll. Spill the beans!

[leifastagsweed]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yZHveWFvqM


I still want to know what back stories I'm supposed to be privy to!

Everyone's looking for dirt, when it's the same shit you shovel all the time. He is the moderator. He sees all. Derp.

[JackWhisper]

I always hated the Brady Bunch.

Fuckers were psychotic, dysfunctional, and all sorts of a bad cracked family.

One of them heard satanic voices. One of the brothers wanted to fuck the sister. The dad was just a step-dad. The mother was already married. The list goes on.

FUCKIN' NOT SO PERFECT!

[Gnome Rage]

His STEP SISTER.

That's that tabooo shuittt

[Elgrim]

Parasitic plague carrier.

Ah the joys of being happily sans-children. I don't think I've been sick in about 10 years that wasn't somehow allergy related. :)

[JackWhisper]

Haha Gnome.

Oh and Marcia was a complete psycho narcissist. Seriously though. Ugh what a twat.