2014 NCAA Football Season

[RichardCranium]

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[Parkbandit]

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[Androidpk]

Watched my first college game last night. Or at least part of one. BC vs Pitt.

[Gelston]

So, it appears Clemson has no class. Probably mad the Georgia trounced them. Feel bad for SC State.

[SHAFT]

So, it appears Clemson has no class. Probably mad the Georgia trounced them. Feel bad for SC State.

They won't be the only team do that this year. One of the reasons college football sucks; ranked teams play nobodies. They're gimmie wins.

[Gelston]

They won't be the only team do that this year. One of the reasons college football sucks; ranked teams play nobodies. They're gimmie wins.
Kinda have to play unranked teams. Not every team in the NFL is great either. You see the same shit happen there.

[SHAFT]

There's a difference between unranked and being a nobody. I don't feel like explaining what that difference is at this time however. I'm like fuck the NCAA and college sports though, so I'm a bit biased.

[Gelston]

There's a difference between unranked and being a nobody. I don't feel like explaining what that difference is at this time however. I'm like fuck the NCAA and college sports though, so I'm a bit biased.

Glad you decided to read and post in a NCAA thread then.

Also, playing those nobodies gives those nobodies a lot of money.

[SHAFT]

Sorry bro

[Latrinsorm]

Kinda have to play unranked teams. Not every team in the NFL is great either. You see the same shit happen there.You don't have to. There's 24 other ranked teams and 12 games on the schedule, you could play all ranked teams even if you turned every game into a doubleheader.

[Warriorbird]

Somebody stupidly claimed Ohio State will be good this year yet? I don't even like the Hokies.

[Gelston]

Somebody stupidly claimed Ohio State will be good this year yet? I don't even like the Hokies.

Where is cwolff?

[Aiska]

Boise State/Colorado State impessions:

Wow I bet they miss Kellen Moore. Wow that field is still hideous.

[Gelston]

South Carolina is probably going to pull a Florida this year. Poor Sir Big Spurs. Spurrier will probably have no less than 50 heart attacks on the sidelines, but not realize it because he is too busy tossing his visor at the ground.

Texas A&M's win is a lot less impressive when you see how SC played E Carolina.

[Gelston]

Damn, Ohio State dropped to 22. Maybe they'll lose another game and get dropped off the rankings. That would be fun.

[Keller]

So the ND v. UM game was so perfect, I may never watch another CFB game.

After losing 4 out of 5 games in fluky fashion (and never hearing the end of it from UM fans, who wouldn't admit those games were toss-ups and they wound up on the winning side), ND wins 31*-0.

Why the asterisk? Well, because ND actually ran an INT back for a TD on the last play of the game, but it was called back for an illegal block.

I ain't even mad, though, because the illegal block was the best part of the game. An incredible punctuation to an outstanding game.

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[RichardCranium]

Hopefully they can run the table and get waxed in the championship game again.

[Keller]

I'd be fine with that.

That would mean we'd beat FSU, USC, Stanford, UNC, ASU, and a top 4 team in the semis. If we got blown out in the championship game, it would have been an incredible year, something LSU hasn't experienced in a while.

[RichardCranium]

Two years ago...?

[Keller]

Two years ago...?

It was actually three years ago that LSU got shut out in the BCS championship game.

[RichardCranium]

January 9th, 2012 was not three years ago sir.

[Androidpk]

It is if you found up!

[Warriorbird]

It'd be great if Notre Dame could play Virginia Tech. They could continue their function as Midwest destroyers.

[Atlanteax]

So the ND v. UM game was so perfect, I may never watch another CFB game.

After losing 4 out of 5 games in fluky fashion (and never hearing the end of it from UM fans, who wouldn't admit those games were toss-ups and they wound up on the winning side), ND wins 31*-0.

Why the asterisk? Well, because ND actually ran an INT back for a TD on the last play of the game, but it was called back for an illegal block.

I ain't even mad, though, because the illegal block was the best part of the game. An incredible punctuation to an outstanding game.

Yep, UM played atrociously bad.

Brady Hoke needs to fix his facial expression of being utterly stupefied.
Great recruiter, but does not seem able to put together comprehensive game plans ... relying on UM players to 'wing it for victory' as in the past few years against ND were.

[Archigeek]

They won't be the only team do that this year. One of the reasons college football sucks; ranked teams play nobodies. They're gimmie wins.

Except when they play NDSU. Oops.

[Gelston]

Except when they play NDSU. Oops.

NDSU shouldn't be in the FCS anyways. I guess they'd prefer to be on top of the FCS then mediocre in the FBS though.

[Archigeek]

NDSU shouldn't be in the FCS anyways. I guess they'd prefer to be on top of the FCS then mediocre in the FBS though.

5-6 years ago they were div 2. I think they're doing just fine.

[RichardCranium]

5-6 years ago they were div 2. I think they're doing just fine.

Division II is FCS.

[Gelston]

5-6 years ago they were div 2. I think they're doing just fine.

10 years ago, but yeah. What Richard said, still FCS.

[Latrinsorm]

Division II is FCS.FCS is the old Div I-AA. No Div II allowed.

eta: Note that the "S" stands for "Subdivision", as in "part of Division I".

[Gelston]

FCS is the old Div I-AA. No Div II allowed.

eta: Note that the "S" stands for "Subdivision", as in "part of Division I".

You're right. I misremembered. And yes, I know what the acronyms mean. You can further divide subdivisions.

[RichardCranium]

You're right. I misremembered. And yes, I know what the acronyms mean. You can further divide subdivisions.

Same here.

[Archigeek]

FCS is the old Div I-AA. No Div II allowed.

eta: Note that the "S" stands for "Subdivision", as in "part of Division I".

They were good when they were div II, and are doing well at I-AA, hopefully they'll be able to compete still in a few years.

[Warriorbird]

This Clemson/FSU game got good.

[Gelston]

This Clemson/FSU game got good.

FSU pulled it off. Guess Winston is their offense.

Washington is playing close to Oregon right now.... though I bet the second half puts the Ducks way ahead.

[Aiska]

Could not give fewer fucks about Oregon/Washington but I really enjoyed the FSU game. Fuck Winston, though. Holy shit what an obnoxious little punk.

[Parkbandit]

This Clemson/FSU game got good.

Yea... I fell asleep RIGHT BEFORE THIS POINT............................................. ..............................

[Warriorbird]

Yea... I fell asleep RIGHT BEFORE THIS POINT............................................. ..............................

Aw man. It was some of the best football the whole day.

[Parkbandit]

Aw man. It was some of the best football the whole day.

Yea, I watched it this morning. I fell asleep thinking FSU lost.. and my wife said "Yea, I woke up and was watching that sports show and they lost 42-21"

On one hand, I love that my wife woke up and actually watched SportsCenter... but come on babe.. FSU isn't UF!

[Aiska]

So a guy ran onto the field during the Buckeyes game. (http://i.imgur.com/dLrqvx0.png)

[Androidpk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POL-4Kg_H4c

[Keller]

Going to the ND v. Stanford game. It's such a critical game.

[Gelston]

So Brady was replaced by a guy from the FCS. You know, one of those nobody teams that the FBS stomps. Oh, btw, the NFL would fucking suck without college ball... Which was a big thing before professional football... Which still has stadiums that dwarf NFL stadiums.

[Warriorbird]

Going to the ND v. Stanford game. It's such a critical game.

I've never been thrilled by the Notre Dame cult but I actually think the new system will add interest to a lot of games. I hope you enjoy it.

[Gelston]

loloregon

[Keller]

Going to the ND v. Stanford game. It's such a critical game.

We tried everything in our power to give that game to Stanford and they wouldn't take it.

[Gelston]

I wanted FSU to win.... Explain to me the pass interference call that allowed it.

[Gelston]

Notre Dame was robbed.

[Palcron]

You can't block downfield prior to the ball being touched by a receiver. The other guy on the field was past the line of scrimmage and made zero effort to run a route. He blocked all the way, and because he was past the line, the flag was thrown. Good call. Ballsy call at the time, but it was the right call.

[Gelston]

You can't block downfield prior to the ball being touched by a receiver. The other guy on the field was past the line of scrimmage and made zero effort to run a route. He blocked all the way, and because he was past the line, the flag was thrown. Good call. Ballsy call at the time, but it was the right call.

I had no sound, but do you think it was pass interference or should it have been a different call?

I just did not see pass interference at all... Which is what the TV said the foul was. Looked like a clean TD to me.

I still think those fags at ND were robbed.

[Palcron]

The issue was that he blocked the defender past the line of scrimmage prior to the receiver catching the ball. Technically, that qualifies as an offensive pass interference penalty. You can't block past the line before someone touches a thrown ball, and he blocked the guy a few yards deep into the end zone.

It wasn't the guy who caught the ball that was penalized, but the guy next to him who blocked the would-be defender into the end zone prior to the ball being caught. Had the dude stayed behind the line while blocking or initiated the block after the ball was caught, it would have been a likely TD, but he did neither.

[Gelston]

Ah. Alright. It just seemed very odd. Expect ESPN to explain it later.

Not that your explanation is bad, but a lot of people, like me, don't understand the call.

[Gelston]

Gotta say though, it was the most interesting game on Saturday. Notre Dame earned their spot in the top 10.

[Wrathbringer]

Ah. Alright. It just seemed very odd. Expect ESPN to explain it later.

Not that your explanation is bad, but a lot of people, like me, don't understand the call.

He explained it perfectly. Read it again sober tomorrow afternoon when you get up.

[Parkbandit]

Ah. Alright. It just seemed very odd. Expect ESPN to explain it later.

Not that your explanation is bad, but a lot of people, like me, don't understand the call.

Watch ND #20 against FSU #8. It was a holding pick. It's why Robinson was so wide open.

It wasn't a tough call to make.

https://mtc.cdn.vine.co/r/videos/3298649E861135469641834364928_2a09ba49bac.5.1.6403 82532488847293.mp4?versionId=RupcUgdzgOPws_QPJnqLd jDoxxU_tdKA

It was a sloppy move by Prosise who was supposed to make it look like he was running a route and oopsie, the FSU guy ran into me. He didn't have to literally block him, all he had to do was hit him just enough to give Robinson an extra step.

[Parkbandit]

Gotta say though, it was the most interesting game on Saturday. Notre Dame earned their spot in the top 10.

I agree. I think FSU is deserving of their #2 standing by the way they win and ND played their best game of the season.

[Keller]

Fuck. Everything.

[Keller]

Here is the video of the offensive pass interference. That call isn't made on a neutral site or at ND stadium.

https://mtc.cdn.vine.co/r/videos/3298649E861135469641834364928_2a09ba49bac.5.1.6403 82532488847293.mp4?versionId=RupcUgdzgOPws_QPJnqLd jDoxxU_tdKA

Not sure how to embed a vine on the PC

[Latrinsorm]

Here is the video of the offensive pass interference. That call isn't made on a neutral site or at ND stadium.

https://mtc.cdn.vine.co/r/videos/3298649E861135469641834364928_2a09ba49bac.5.1.6403 82532488847293.mp4?versionId=RupcUgdzgOPws_QPJnqLd jDoxxU_tdKA

Not sure how to embed a vine on the PCIt is interesting to hear people talk about how if ND and FSU end up with the same record that they expect FSU to make the playoffs... based on a head-to-head win at home. I think that call is made regardless but there's more to home field advantage than a single call.

[Warriorbird]

It is interesting to hear people talk about how if ND and FSU end up with the same record that they expect FSU to make the playoffs... based on a head-to-head win at home. I think that call is made regardless but there's more to home field advantage than a single call.

College football home field advantage would make an actually interesting use of your sports statistical mind. I do think it is significant in many places, some less so. I know my experiences at Death Valley and Camp Randall are a lot more intense than Scott or Lane.

[Parkbandit]

Here is the video of the offensive pass interference. That call isn't made on a neutral site or at ND stadium.

https://mtc.cdn.vine.co/r/videos/3298649E861135469641834364928_2a09ba49bac.5.1.6403 82532488847293.mp4?versionId=RupcUgdzgOPws_QPJnqLd jDoxxU_tdKA

Not sure how to embed a vine on the PC

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[Gelston]

Obviously, Marshall is going to win the National Championship.

[Latrinsorm]

College football home field advantage would make an actually interesting use of your sports statistical mind. I do think it is significant in many places, some less so. I know my experiences at Death Valley and Camp Randall are a lot more intense than Scott or Lane.Thanks! I'm concerned that the main factor will be player wealth, though, and it's pretty hard to keep track of that for student-athletes.

[Warriorbird]

Thanks! I'm concerned that the main factor will be player wealth, though, and it's pretty hard to keep track of that for student-athletes.

Because football is the only college sport where players aren't paid?

[Latrinsorm]

Because football is the only college sport where players aren't paid?No because they are paid, considerable sums, and you only find out about it years or decades later. That's what I was getting at.

[Warriorbird]

No because they are paid, considerable sums, and you only find out about it years or decades later. That's what I was getting at.

And this is the only sport where that occurs? Stunning.

[Gelston]

He is just mad because basketball is stupid.

[Warriorbird]

He is just mad because basketball is stupid.

I'll admit to liking March Madness a lot more than the NBA too.

[Atlanteax]

Here is the video of the offensive pass interference. That call isn't made on a neutral site or at ND stadium.

https://mtc.cdn.vine.co/r/videos/3298649E861135469641834364928_2a09ba49bac.5.1.6403 82532488847293.mp4?versionId=RupcUgdzgOPws_QPJnqLd jDoxxU_tdKA

Not sure how to embed a vine on the PC

LOL, no wonder the offensive pass interference call the way that ND #7 literally ran into the FSU players to ensure that #88 was wide open. #7 was the first to congrats on catch because he knee that he bumped the FSU player(s) way off, to create wide open space for #88.

[Keller]

LOL, no wonder the offensive pass interference call the way that ND #7 literally ran into the FSU players to ensure that #88 was wide open. #7 was the first to congrats on catch because he knee that he bumped the FSU player(s) way off, to create wide open space for #88.

First, the PI was on #20, who was engaged by the FSU defender.

Second, #7 is running an inside slant route. The defender takes inside leverage and #7 runs into him.

The shitty part is that the CB covering #88 would have never gotten to him even without the contact between the two other pairs of players.

We ran the same play in the first half and Jimbo complained to the refs that we had picked their defender. Smart coaching move on his part to get it into the refs head.

[Latrinsorm]

And this is the only sport where that occurs? Stunning.Oh I get what you mean now. No, obviously, but very detailed and publicly available records are kept of payment in overtly professional sports. I try not to do analysis if I'm missing information, just ask Thondalar!

[Parkbandit]

First, the PI was on #20, who was engaged by the FSU defender.

Second, #7 is running an inside slant route. The defender takes inside leverage and #7 runs into him.

The shitty part is that the CB covering #88 would have never gotten to him even without the contact between the two other pairs of players.

We ran the same play in the first half and Jimbo complained to the refs that we had picked their defender. Smart coaching move on his part to get it into the refs head.

My brother in law was over last night.. complaining about the call. I was like "Are you a ND fan.. because the only people complaining about how bad the call was is ND fans." He attempted to claim impartiality..saying he just started liking NCAA football this year and that he doesn't have a favorite team... and that really convinced me up until his wife walked in, hearing us talking about the game and said "Yea, we were absolutely robbed by that terrible call!"

I guess she now works at a school who's mascot is the "Fighting Irish", so now they are ND fans.

My brother in law shut up for the rest of the night....

[Warriorbird]

Oh I get what you mean now. No, obviously, but very detailed and publicly available records are kept of payment in overtly professional sports. I try not to do analysis if I'm missing information, just ask Thondalar!

The only college sport where this occurs?

[Keller]

My brother in law was over last night.. complaining about the call. I was like "Are you a ND fan.. because the only people complaining about how bad the call was is ND fans." He attempted to claim impartiality..saying he just started liking NCAA football this year and that he doesn't have a favorite team... and that really convinced me up until his wife walked in, hearing us talking about the game and said "Yea, we were absolutely robbed by that terrible call!"

I guess she now works at a school who's mascot is the "Fighting Irish", so now they are ND fans.

My brother in law shut up for the rest of the night....

Advise them to cut bait while they can. ND is not a school I'd choose to start rooting for.

As far as the PI - it was at best a questionable call and at worst not pass interference.

The ACC today admitted their officials missed a personal foul penalty on the FSU DB that took his helmet off to scream at a ref until he threw his flag for that PI. So it should have bee 1st and Goal at the 8 with 13 seconds.

It's all moot - but you can understand how ND fans are salty.

[Parkbandit]

Advise them to cut bait while they can. ND is not a school I'd choose to start rooting for.

She just started the job this school year..


As far as the PI - it was at best a questionable call and at worst not pass interference.

At best it was the right call and at worst you get upset ND fans crying about it.


The ACC today admitted their officials missed a personal foul penalty on the FSU DB that took his helmet off to scream at a ref until he threw his flag for that PI. So it should have bee 1st and Goal at the 8 with 13 seconds.

If they called the personal foul.. it would have simply offset the pass interference call and the down would have been replayed. 3rd and goal.


It's all moot - but you can understand how ND fans are salty.

They are salty indeed.. their receivers really need to learn how to set 'legal' picks. It was a sloppy play by 2 of their receivers that they didn't need to do... they honestly looked like they were blocking downfield, which is the exact opposite what you want that play to look like. It's supposed to look as though the defense interfered with their route.. not that the receiver is blocking the defense.

FSU didn't even play D correctly in that scenario and Robinson would have scored regardless.

[Keller]

The personal foul was after the play. FSU would have accepted the OPI (or we'd have won) and we would have accepted the PF. It would have been first and goal at the 8.

Turns out the penalty was called on Will Fuller (#7, the wide receiver in the bunch set), which makes even less sense than #20.

Here is a good angle that you can clearly see (i) Fuller takes a jab step right and runs a slant while (ii) Darby plays inside leverage and engages Fuller.

http://www.ndinsider.com/multimedia/videos/video-end-zone-view-of-controversial-notre-dame-penalty/video_84f27a20-57e2-11e4-8871-0017a43b2370.html

Not sure how a rational, fair-minded person could watch that and think it was clearly OPI. It's a judgment call, and I can live with a ref calling that play in the moment, but I just don't believe you could say it was anything more than a questionable call.

[Palcron]

Who it got called on is largely irrelevant when it was a call that clearly needed to be made. Refs accidentally call out wrong jersey numbers on a regular enough basis that that should not be the angle that you attack. It was an obvious block prior to the receiver catching the ball. The FSU player getting blocked was pushed two yards deep in the end zone before the ball was caught. That is the definition of the rule. The receiver made absolutely zero attempt to run a route. It was a pick play all the way.

[Palcron]

And yes, had the guy not committed an obvious pass interference penalty, FSU had, in fact, screwed up coverage, and it would be been an almost certain TD.

[Keller]

Who it got called on is largely irrelevant when it was a call that clearly needed to be made. Refs accidentally call out wrong jersey numbers on a regular enough basis that that should not be the angle that you attack. It was an obvious block prior to the receiver catching the ball. The FSU player getting blocked was pushed two yards deep in the end zone before the ball was caught. That is the definition of the rule. The receiver made absolutely zero attempt to run a route. It was a pick play all the way.

Let me be absolutely clear - neither #20 nor #7 committed offensive pass interference.

#7 was interferred with, if anything.

#20 was running a button route and was jammed at the line. He was fighting for position.

No FSU CB was "two yards deep in the end zone before the ball was caught." When you make objectively false statements, it is clear you don't actually know what you're talking about.

[Palcron]

Watch #20 for ND block #8 of FSU into the end zone. Prior to the pass being caught, they are both two yards deep into the end zone. That is offensive pass interference. At no point did he attempt to get past #8 to run a route. He never once turned around to look for a pass or put his arms up. Nothing. He just blocked.

[Palcron]

What you call "fighting for position" refs call offensive pass interference.

[Palcron]

If Notre Dame would just join a conference like every other team in college, they could still finish the season with one loss, win a conference title (assuming they joined s conference with a title game) and easily qualify for the playoffs. Without a title game, it's going to be tough, but it's not like losing to the number 2 team in the country destroys your season. There's still a ton of football to be played.

And that one call didn't end the game. They got another shot and threw a pick, so it wasn't the penalty that did them in, rather, it was defensive pressure and a poorly thrown ball.

[Keller]

If Notre Dame would just join a conference like every other team in college, they could still finish the season with one loss, win a conference title (assuming they joined s conference with a title game) and easily qualify for the playoffs. Without a title game, it's going to be tough, but it's not like losing to the number 2 team in the country destroys your season. There's still a ton of football to be played.

And that one call didn't end the game. They got another shot and threw a pick, so it wasn't the penalty that did them in, rather, it was defensive pressure and a poorly thrown ball.

A one-loss ND team, with Ws over Stanford, ASU, USC, and Louisville, with their loss being to FSU on the road, will make a 4 team playoff. The committee does not have the same SEC bias that the voters have. They can tell that the SEC is down this year and won't give anyone outside of the conference champion a spot.

Assuming ND wins out, it's going to be FSU, SEC champ, ND, and probably OSU, MSU, or Oregon.

[Parkbandit]

Let me be absolutely clear - neither #20 nor #7 committed offensive pass interference.

#7 was interferred with, if anything.

#20 was running a button route and was jammed at the line. He was fighting for position.

No FSU CB was "two yards deep in the end zone before the ball was caught." When you make objectively false statements, it is clear you don't actually know what you're talking about.

You be trollin' this hard.

Even ESPN.. who treats ND like the next King, stated on multiple occasions that it was the right call.

I'm done feeding though.

[Keller]

You be trollin' this hard.

Even ESPN.. who treats ND like the next King, stated on multiple occasions that it was the right call.

I'm done feeding though.

Two things.

First, ESPN is wrong.

Second, ESPN has TV deals with the ACC and the SEC. ND has a TV deal with NBC. ESPN is in bed with the ACC and SEC - not with ND. To the extent ESPN praises ND, it is against their economic interests so you can rest assured it is without bias.

[Gelston]

Two things.

First, ESPN is wrong.

Second, ESPN has TV deals with the ACC and the SEC. ND has a TV deal with NBC. ESPN is in bed with the ACC and SEC - not with ND. To the extent ESPN praises ND, it is against their economic interests so you can rest assured it is without bias.

It was the correct call. Your team lost. Fucking deal with it.

[Keller]

It was the correct call. Your team lost. Fucking deal with it.

Look at Gelston, disagreeing with the ACC, who admitted they botched the call.

[Gelston]

Look at Gelston, disagreeing with the ACC, who admitted they botched the call.

A drunk me that saw it with no sound and no replies in a loud bar thought it was a botched call. A sober me that reviewed it later doesn't agree with the drunk me. Amazing right?

Teams lose, sometimes your favorite one does. Suck it the fuck up and stop acting like a 5 year old and move on to next week.

[Keller]

A drunk me that saw it with no sound and no replies in a loud bar thought it was a botched call. A sober me that reviewed it later doesn't agree with the drunk me. Amazing right?

Teams lose, sometimes your favorite one does. Suck it the fuck up and stop acting like a 5 year old and move on to next week.

I fail to see how your sobriety impacts the ACC's admission that their referees botched the call.

Can you help me understand? I want to understand.

[Gelston]

I fail to see how your sobriety impacts the ACC's admission that their referees botched the call.

Can you help me understand? I want to understand.

You mean where they defended the call more recently on further reflection?

http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/10/19/upon-further-review-acc-defends-offensive-pass-interference-penalty-against-notre-dame/

Or here, again?

http://www.si.com/college-football/2014/10/19/acc-notre-dame-florida-state-call-was-right

[Parkbandit]

I fail to see how your sobriety impacts the ACC's admission that their referees botched the call.

I know.. I'm breaking out the feedbag..... but do you want to give more details on how the ACC stated that their referees botched "the call"? I think you have a couple of calls purposely confused.

[Keller]

I know.. I'm breaking out the feedbag..... but do you want to give more details on how the ACC stated that their referees botched "the call"? I think you have a couple of calls purposely confused.

Like I said - it either wasn't OPI, or, if it was, it should have been 1st and goal at the 8 after an unsportsmanlike conduct.

The ACC referees botched the call.

[Gelston]

Like I said - it either wasn't OPI, or, if it was, it should have been 1st and goal at the 8 after an unsportsmanlike conduct.

The ACC referees botched the call.

Your team lost. Sorry. Move on. This isn't the first time a fan thought they lost due to botched calls.

[Keller]

SEC speed must not apply to reading comprehension. Yikes.

[Gelston]

SEC speed must not apply to reading comprehension. Yikes.

Notre Dame fans must never stop crying. Yikes.

[Keller]

Notre Dame fans must never stop crying. Yikes.

Getting ass-fucked pre-game is no big deal because we're all fags - getting ass-fucked during the game hurts.

[Parkbandit]

Like I said - it either wasn't OPI, or, if it was, it should have been 1st and goal at the 8 after an unsportsmanlike conduct.

The ACC referees botched the call.

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[Atlanteax]

The fact of the matter is that ND is overrated every single single.

[Parkbandit]

The fact of the matter is that ND is overrated every single single.

Every single single?

And you believe they are over rated this year.. by taking the #2 team in the country and beating them right up until the end?

I agree they are usually over rated in the polls.. but this year I think they were under rated. I think they showed a lot of people why they are still in the top 10.

[Keller]

The scary thing is ND is going to return 20 starters next year, many of whom are underclassmen. Plus we get 2 of the suspended players back (all american CB + starting DE). Our offensive line depth is crazy.

I just hope the Giants don't try to hire Kelly. That would suck ass.

[RichardCranium]

Every single single?

And you believe they are over rated this year.. by taking the #2 team in the country and beating them right up until the end?

I agree they are usually over rated in the polls.. but this year I think they were under rated. I think they showed a lot of people why they are still in the top 10.

To be fair, FSU is overrated as fuck too.

[Parkbandit]

To be fair, FSU is overrated as fuck too.

Really?

They were #1 at the beginning of the year because of returning talent from the previous season. They won the championship last year and have a Heisman winning QB.. so I imagine they would start off pretty high. Top 5 for sure.

And they are undefeated currently.

There's only 3 undefeated teams right now... and they are ranked #2.

Don't hate on the 'Noles.. unless you are some racist who hates Native Americans.

[Gelston]

Really?

They were #1 at the beginning of the year because of returning talent from the previous season. They won the championship last year and have a Heisman winning QB.. so I imagine they would start off pretty high. Top 5 for sure.

And they are undefeated currently.

There's only 3 undefeated teams right now... and they are ranked #2.

Four.

WE ARE... MARSHALL!

Well, I'm not. I just liked the movie.

[RichardCranium]

Really?

They were #1 at the beginning of the year because of returning talent from the previous season. They won the championship last year and have a Heisman winning QB.. so I imagine they would start off pretty high. Top 5 for sure.

And they are undefeated currently.

There's only 3 undefeated teams right now... and they are ranked #2.

Don't hate on the 'Noles.. unless you are some racist who hates Native Americans.

I just wanted to get a rise out of you. I know they're few and far between for you these days old man.

[Parkbandit]

I just wanted to get a rise out of you. I know they're few and far between for you these days old man.

Worst apology ever.

[Gelston]

Don't hate on the 'Noles.. unless you are some racist who hates Native Americans.

Also, I hate Native Americans. Fuckers were squatting on our land before we got here.

[Gelston]

Damn, FSU almost fucked themselves on that one.

[Parkbandit]

Damn, FSU almost fucked themselves on that one.

They've been doing that all fucking year. First half.. terrible. Second half.. incredible.

They find a way to win though.

[Gelston]

They've been doing that all fucking year. First half.. terrible. Second half.. incredible.

They find a way to win though.

I don't know if that'll cut it in the CFP though. They definitely aren't the FSU from last year.

[Gelston]

It was awesome seeing Winston cause a fumble and recovery for his own team on his INT though. Too bad he threw 3 in the game.

[Keller]

Seriously, how great is the ACC?

Louisville, an afterthought for the playoffs, nearly knocked off the undefeated reigning national champions.

But FSU, with the grit and moxy of a potential back-to-back national champions, came back in a hostile environment and won a tough victory in college football's premier power conference.

[Gelston]

Seriously, how great is the ACC?

Louisville, an afterthought for the playoffs, nearly knocked off the undefeated reigning national champions.

But FSU, with the grit and moxy of a potential back-to-back national champions, came back in a hostile environment and won a tough victory in college football's premier power conference.

Yes, the ACC does suck. FSU is from the ACC, and beat ND though. And I can't wait to show you your post again when Louisville beats ND.

[Keller]

Yes, the ACC does suck. FSU is from the ACC, and beat ND though. And I can't wait to show you your post again when Louisville beats ND.

Louisville obviously proved they are a top 10 team last night. I wouldn't be surprised if they did beat us. Disappointed, but that's what you get when you play the gauntlet of the ACC powerhouses.

[Gelston]

Louisville obviously proved they are a top 10 team last night. I wouldn't be surprised if they did beat us. Disappointed, but that's what you get when you play the gauntlet of the ACC powerhouses.


Are you on crack? They didn't prove they were a top 10, only that FSU is either overrated or played bad.

[Parkbandit]

Are you on crack? They didn't prove they were a top 10, only that FSU is either overrated or played bad.

At 8-0.. not sure how people keep saying they are overrated.

[Keller]

At 8-0.. not sure how people keep saying they are overrated.

8-0 in the ACC+ no less.

[Parkbandit]

8-0 in the ACC+ no less.

Actually, they are only 5-0 in the ACC... but they get to play shit schools out of conference.

[Gelston]

At 8-0.. not sure how people keep saying they are overrated.

Marshall is undefeated too.

But no, take note of the "either" I put in there.

[Keller]

Actually, they are only 5-0 in the ACC... but they get to play shit schools out of conference.

6-0 in the ACC+ (which includes Notre Dame, ensuring that the ACC+ is the best power conference in CFB this year)

[Gelston]

6-0 in the ACC+ (which includes Notre Dame, ensuring that the ACC+ is the best power conference in CFB this year)

Notre Dame isn't in the ACC for Football, so it is 5-0.

BTW...

Rudy was offsides.

http://theeightees.com/products/square/98347.png

[Keller]

I really should write my congressman and tell them to stop giving federal funds to the southern states if this is the level of education those dollars buy.

[Gelston]

I really should write my congressman and tell them to stop giving federal funds to the southern states if this is the level of education those dollars buy.

http://theeightees.com/products/square/98347.png

[Keller]

FYI - I don't care whether Rudy was offsides. If you're going to troll me, you're better off going with a "ND committed offensive pass interference against FSU" route. That I care about.

[Gelston]

FYI - I don't care whether Rudy was offsides. If you're going to troll me, you're better off going with a "ND committed offensive pass interference against FSU" route. That I care about.

http://theeightees.com/products/square/98347.png

[Keller]

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Gelston]

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

http://theeightees.com/products/square/98347.png

[Keller]

http://usatftw.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/auburn1.jpg

[Gelston]

http://usatftw.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/auburn1.jpg

I'm not a Bama fan, so I don't care about that f'd up FG attempt. Anyways...

http://images.cpcache.com/image/35666312.png

[Keller]

http://usatftw.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/auburn1.jpg

[Gelston]

http://usatftw.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/auburn1.jpg

http://i3.cpcache.com/product/181813520/rudy_offsides_2_mug.jpg

[RichardCranium]

6-0 in the ACC+ (which includes Notre Dame, ensuring that the ACC+ is the best power conference in CFB this year)

LSU is no Georgia Tech, I'll give you that. Hopefully they don't draw an ACC team in their bowl game. If they do, keeping it within a couple of scores will keep me happy through the off season.

[Keller]

LSU is no Georgia Tech, I'll give you that. Hopefully they don't draw an ACC team in their bowl game. If they do, keeping it within a couple of scores will keep me happy through the off season.

North Carolina would put up 50 on LSU.

Could LSU keep up?

[Gelston]

LSU is no Georgia Tech, I'll give you that. Hopefully they don't draw an ACC team in their bowl game. If they do, keeping it within a couple of scores will keep me happy through the off season.

Our defense has matured a lot this season. I'm fairly confident with it now. I'm confident LSU could just about take any team in college, so long as the passing game gets going.


North Carolina would put up 50 on LSU.

Could LSU keep up?

NC would put up 3 on LSU.

[Keller]

NC would put up 3 on LSU.

Did we switch to baseball all of a sudden?

[Gelston]

Did we switch to baseball all of a sudden?

I'm talking about how the Thundering Herd is going to stomp everyone in the CFP.

http://fiusports.typepad.com/.a/6a0134865674e5970c01901df0ad9b970b-pi

[RichardCranium]

North Carolina would put up 50 on LSU.

Could LSU keep up?

If you ain't buga, you suspect.

[Keller]

http://the-mainboard.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/loldog.gif

[Gelston]

Go Navy!

[Keller]

Everett Golson just put another notch in his Heisman belt. If it weren't for the TOs, he'd be running away with it.

I'm starting to get nervous that he leaves early and fucks ND next year, when we have legit MNC chances.

[Warriorbird]

Everett Golson just put another notch in his Heisman belt. If it weren't for the TOs, he'd be running away with it.

I'm starting to get nervous that he leaves early and fucks ND next year, when we have legit MNC chances.

This post is adorable.

[Keller]

This post is adorable.

What sort of money you want to put up that (i) if Golson stays and (ii) Brian Kelly stays, ND will be a top 5 team preseason.

I will give you a double or nothing that they will be in the playoffs, too. So if they are preseason top 5, not all is lost for you.

$25?

[Warriorbird]

What sort of money you want to put up that (i) if Golson stays and (ii) Brian Kelly stays, ND will be a top 5 team preseason.

I will give you a double or nothing that they will be in the playoffs, too. So if they are preseason top 5, not all is lost for you.

$25?

25 for a playoff victory against an SEC team. Most of the rest is (yes, Latrin) hype.

[Keller]

Back peddling faster than Patrick Peterson, I see.

[Warriorbird]

Back peddling faster than Patrick Peterson, I see.

Didn't somebody say MNC in his first post?

[Keller]

Didn't somebody say MNC in his first post?

Being preseason top 5 and making the playoff support having legit MNC hopes.

I understand why you want to narrow the bet, which is why I said you're backpeddling.

[Warriorbird]

Being preseason top 5 and making the playoff support having legit MNC hopes.

I understand why you want to narrow the bet, which is why I said you're backpeddling.

Lead to != equal to. I wouldn't have made fun of "Preseason top 5 and making the playoffs."

[Parkbandit]

ND getting bent over.

[Parkbandit]

Auburn's going to lose as well.

[Atlanteax]

ND getting bent over.

*Delicious* ND tears...

[Gelston]

LSU should have won that in regulation. Well, next year!

[kutter]

LSU should have won that in regulation. Well, next year!

I knew when they let them march down the field LSU was going to lose. They abandon the defense that had worked for 59:10 and it cost them the field goal. Then Alabama rode the emotional high right over the Tigers. It was sad because I feel like LSU outplayed them for most of the game.

[Keller]

A&M beats Auburn and Alabama almost loses to LSU. I may have underestimated just how down the SEC is this year. At least Ole Miss handled Presbyterian.

[Warriorbird]

A&M beats Auburn and Alabama almost loses to LSU. I may have underestimated just how down the SEC is this year. At least Ole Miss handled Presbyterian.

I heard that a certain "future national champion" may've lost badly. Losing to members of the best conference isn't exactly considered problematic. Then again, some of us think conferences are beneath them. Mind you, if Notre Dame had a conference they'd probably be beneath them too.

[Parkbandit]

I heard that a certain "future national champion" may've lost badly. Losing to members of the best conference isn't exactly considered problematic. Then again, some of us think conferences are beneath them. Mind you, if Notre Dame had a conference they'd probably be beneath them too.

The highlights...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-M6HlLZd5I#t=84

[RichardCranium]

I knew when they let them march down the field LSU was going to lose. They abandon the defense that had worked for 59:10 and it cost them the field goal. Then Alabama rode the emotional high right over the Tigers. It was sad because I feel like LSU outplayed them for most of the game.

They were fucked by ole bug eyes, as they usually are when these two teams play one another.

[Atlanteax]

Notre Dame: After Saturday's ugly 55-31 loss at No. 9 Arizona State, in which the Fighting Irish trailed 34-3 and then gave up 21 points in the final 4½ minutes after making it close, it's safe to eliminate them from playoff consideration. Before losing to the Sun Devils, the Irish were hanging their hats on a 31-27 loss at defending national champion Florida State on Oct. 18. You can't make the playoff because of a quality loss. The Irish don't have a single victory over an opponent that's currently ranked in the top 25 by the selection committee, and they won't face a ranked foe in their final three regular-season games.

So will be *zero* quality wins for ND.

[Gelston]

Where'd Keller go?

[Wrathbringer]

Where'd Keller go?

Who cares?

[Keller]

SEC east is just brutal. Such a good conference.

[Keller]

Who cares?

You are so adorable!

[Gelston]

Hi Keller! Glad to see you haven't committed suicide.

[Gelston]

LSU deserves no ranking after this performance. We have next year.

[Keller]

Hi Keller! Glad to see you haven't committed suicide.

Why would I commit suicide? Life is wonderful.

[Gelston]

Why would I commit suicide? Life is wonderful.

You hadn't posted since the 9th until tonight. I was a little worried for you.

[Keller]

You hadn't posted since the 9th until tonight. I was a little worried for you.

I joined a sim basketball league that is my secondary forum, so I don't have a lot of time to post here.

[Gelston]

I joined a sim basketball league that is my secondary forum, so I don't have a lot of time to post here.

So you ready for Kentucky to stomp everyone?

[Keller]

So you ready for Kentucky to stomp everyone?

It is pro, so . . . Yes

[Gelston]

It is pro, so . . . Yes

Hah. Funny guy.

[Keller]

Hah. Funny guy.

Not even laughing

[Keller]

Also, you should look into being an LSU basketball fan. That will be your best national championship shot the next decade.

[Gelston]

Not even laughing

Both of our teams lost tonight against unranked opponents. What do you think the outcome will be?

[Keller]

Both of our teams lost tonight against unranked opponents. What do you think the outcome will be?

We sit in a dark room together drinking blended whiskey while listening to the Cranberries and eventually make out.

[Parkbandit]

Both of our teams lost tonight against unranked opponents. What do you think the outcome will be?

http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/26d577f3d87637af439db2a8aef48ddb06743795/c=246-197-2109-1599&r=x383&c=540x380/local/-/media/USATODAY/test/2014/01/07//1389087627000-XXX-sw01-region3-08.jpg

[Keller]

I am fully team Noles the rest of the year.

[Gelston]

http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/26d577f3d87637af439db2a8aef48ddb06743795/c=246-197-2109-1599&r=x383&c=540x380/local/-/media/USATODAY/test/2014/01/07//1389087627000-XXX-sw01-region3-08.jpg

I don't think they are going to win this year. Probably another for Alabama. Hey, maybe we'll finally get the Bama/Oregon game that everyone has been wanting for so many years.

[Parkbandit]

I don't think they are going to win this year. Probably another for Alabama. Hey, maybe we'll finally get the Bama/Oregon game that everyone has been wanting for so many years.

I've never wanted a Bama/Oregon game.

Ever.

[Gelston]

I've never wanted a Bama/Oregon game.

Ever.

That makes you nobody!

[Latrinsorm]

We sit in a dark room together drinking blended whiskey while listening to the Cranberries and eventually make out.That's disgusting. U2 is way better suited. I can't even look at you right now.

[Keller]

That's disgusting. U2 is way better suited. I can't even look at you right now.

I could see Dave Matthews, but how do you make out to U2?

[Androidpk]

That's disgusting. U2 is way better suited. I can't even look at you right now.

Of course you can't look at him, it's dark room, duh.

[Latrinsorm]

I could see Dave Matthews, but how do you make out to U2?It's a religious experience.

[Gelston]

It's a religious experience.

Shut up Latrin.

[Buckwheet]

ROLL TIDE.

[Keller]

Even ESPN now admits that the SEC is not the best conference in college football.

http://espn.go.com/blog/big12/post/_/id/93344/power-rankings-big-12-not-sec-is-no-1

[Gelston]

Even ESPN now admits that the SEC is not the best conference in college football.

http://espn.go.com/blog/big12/post/_/id/93344/power-rankings-big-12-not-sec-is-no-1

OH noez, the SEC East sucked so bad this year! Who has doubted that?

[Buckwheet]

Even ESPN now admits that the SEC is not the best conference in college football.

http://espn.go.com/blog/big12/post/_/id/93344/power-rankings-big-12-not-sec-is-no-1

I thought we already established that the SEC will be a victim of its own success?

[Parkbandit]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNMRPQTLKKU

[Atlanteax]

ND proved to be what we thought they were during the beatdown by USC.

[Keller]

The mouthpiece of the SEC says it is a second class conference and yall just want to talk about a Notre Dame.

I love how relevant ND is even in a mediocre season.

[Gelston]

The mouthpiece of the SEC says it is a second class conference and yall just want to talk about a Notre Dame.

I love how relevant ND is even in a mediocre season.

The SEC East was shitty this year. ESPN has been saying that since the start.

[Keller]

The only elite team in the SEC is Alabama. There are two other top 15 teams and a bunch of dog shit sprayed with rose petal perfume by ESPN.

[Parkbandit]

The only elite team in the SEC is Alabama. There are two other top 15 teams and a bunch of dog shit sprayed with rose petal perfume by ESPN. But yea, they can all beat Neutered Dames.

FTFY

The only reason I've been mentioning ND is because how much of a fanboi you are for them.

[Latrinsorm]

...wouldn't that be Spayed Dames?

[Keller]

FTFY

The only reason I've been mentioning ND is because how much of a fanboi you are for them.

Your mistake is that I don't care. I never thought they'd be good this year and never defended them when they shit the bed.

Since Mississippi State was named the best team in the country, it was clear that the SEC was underratedly overrated. I have been saying that for weeks to the chagrin of the SEC fans (dap to RC, who is a real CFB fan and not a conference shill). Now ESPN, the SEC's mouthpiece, agrees with me.

[Gelston]

Your mistake is that I don't care. I never thought they'd be good this year and never defended them when they shit the bed.

Since Mississippi State was named the best team in the country, it was clear that the SEC was underratedly overrated. I have been saying that for weeks to the chagrin of the SEC fans (dap to RC, who is a real CFB fan and not a conference shill). Now ESPN, the SEC's mouthpiece, agrees with me.

What makes it funny is you know nothing about football.

[Keller]

What makes it funny is you know nothing about football.

You got me there. #truthbomb

[Gelston]

Looks like LSU will be stomping the shit out of Notre Dame in a bowl game this year.

Franklin American Mortgage Music City Bowl
Notre Dame vs. LSU Nashville, Tenn.
LP Field Dec. 30
3 p.m.

[RichardCranium]

Keller, your thoughts?

[Warriorbird]

Looks like LSU will be stomping the shit out of Notre Dame in a bowl game this year.

Franklin American Mortgage Music City Bowl
Notre Dame vs. LSU Nashville, Tenn.
LP Field Dec. 30
3 p.m.

Oooh. I'm curious about what tickets are gonna run for.

[Keller]

Keller, your thoughts?

Notre Dame is not good, so anything less than a slaughter is an indictment of the entire SEC and LSU specifically.

[Gelston]

Notre Dame is not good, so anything less than a slaughter is an indictment of the entire SEC and LSU specifically.

rofl

[Keller]

If we get some players back on the defensive line, I could see us keeping it within two TDs. If we still start the three star white freshman from Ohio at DT again, Fournette will rush for 300. In the first half.

[Gelston]

Oooh. I'm curious about what tickets are gonna run for.

Starting at $46 with over 5,000 seats left. We'll see what it is 2 weeks from now.

[Gelston]

We have South Carolina playing Miami here, at the Independence Bowl. I'll probably go to that.

[Warriorbird]

We have South Carolina playing Miami here, at the Independence Bowl. I'll probably go to that.

Yeah, Tennessee is fairly convenient for me here. We'll see how tolerant my girlfriend is feeling and I'll ponder just what sort of football illness I'll come down with.

[Gelston]

I've only been to two prior Independence Bowl games. Last one was Mizzou and North Carolina... Before that was LSU and Michigan State.. That was also Nick Saban's first bowl game as a head coach. He was Michigan State's HC. He lost.

[Atlanteax]

Notre Dame is not good

Quoting for posterity.

[AnticorRifling]

Quoting for posterity.

He's not wrong. I still love Notre Dame but if asked if they are good the answer is, currently, no.

[Keller]

He's not wrong. I still love Notre Dame but if asked if they are good the answer is, currently, no.

Bunch of irrational homers in here not quite sure how to deal with a rational sports fan.

[Keller]

Quoting for posterity.

Why in the world would you quote something stated in the present tense for future use, especially when I've been on record saying ND will be a national championship contender next year?

[Gelston]

Ragin Cajuns whaaaaaa

[Gelston]

Damn, AFA is making some ballsy calls.

[Gelston]

Got my tickets for the Independence Bowl. I'm right on the 50 on the SEC side, like 6 rows up. Gonna be fucking awesome.

[Warriorbird]

Got my tickets for the Independence Bowl. I'm right on the 50 on the SEC side, like 6 rows up. Gonna be fucking awesome.

Hell yeah. I wish the girlfriend wasn't carrying me off to travel.

[Keller]

Got my tickets for the SEC side

I feel like I deserve some kind of commendation for your troll training. Well done.

[Gelston]

I feel like I deserve some kind of commendation for your troll training. Well done.

Uhhh... k?

Also.... SEC 1-0

[Gelston]

2-0 SEC, 11 more bowl games to go.

Also, poor Saban. No longer the highest paid coach in college football.

[Gelston]

3-0 SEC 10 to go.

Arkansas being the most underrated team of the year.

[ZeP]

Dude. I forgot that they were doing playoffs. That might make this pure-laughable money-grab that-we-call-college-sports watchable and interesting.

Bonus points if you can get that made as an alter, hyphens included.

[Gelston]

Dude. I forgot that they were doing playoffs. That might make this pure-laughable money-grab that-we-call-college-sports watchable and interesting.

Yes, as opposed to any other sport that has existed... Ever.

[Keller]

Prediction time. LSU 37 ND 6 (TD on opening drive, missed EP)

[Gelston]

If Brandon Harris were used and given the opportunity to throw, it'd be higher than 37.

[Atlanteax]

Jim Harbaugh to UM!

Will be nice to see burning intensity on the UM sidelines again.

[Gelston]

Grats Notre Dame.

3-1

[Gelston]

Georgia destroyed them.

4-1

[ZeP]

Yes, as opposed to any other sport that has existed... Ever.

Maybe with 35 hyphens I worded it wrong.

But college sports are pure bullshit, calling the participants kids and not paying them.

[Gelston]

Maybe with 35 hyphens I worded it wrong.

But college sports are pure bullshit, calling the participants kids and not paying them.

Okay. Because college sports weren't the original sporting events. No idea what you are getting at, buddy. NCAA Football FBS went to a play off schedule because people bitched about the match ups. It didn't add any new games. If you are complaining about a "money grab" that is something that has existed since ancient Greece. If you'd like, I can point you toward archaeological evidence.

And they get college scholarships. They get free room and board. How many people are in debt due to student loans right now?

[ZeP]

Okay. Because college sports weren't the original sporting events. No idea what you are getting at, buddy. NCAA Football FBS went to a play off schedule because people bitched about the match ups. It didn't add any new games. If you are complaining about a "money grab" that is something that has existed since ancient Greece. If you'd like, I can point you toward archaeological evidence.

And they get college scholarships. They get free room and board. How many people are in debt due to student loans right now?

Not bad, Gel. I'm going to call you Gel now. One counterpoint, you absolutely should know what I am "getting at" if you mean "getting at" to at least mean "referring to" or "alluding to".

[GuildRat]

Okay. Because college sports weren't the original sporting events. No idea what you are getting at, buddy. NCAA Football FBS went to a play off schedule because people bitched about the match ups. It didn't add any new games. If you are complaining about a "money grab" that is something that has existed since ancient Greece. If you'd like, I can point you toward archaeological evidence.

And they get college scholarships. They get free room and board. How many people are in debt due to student loans right now?

I agree for the most part here, and I know that NCAA marketing has been forced to change. However, in the past, the NCAA basically claimed ownership of players' names and made ungodly amounts of money off of them with absolutely no compensation to the players, unless you consider the scholarships all encompassing compensation.

[Parkbandit]

I agree for the most part here, and I know that NCAA marketing has been forced to change. However, in the past, the NCAA basically claimed ownership of players' names and made ungodly amounts of money off of them with absolutely no compensation to the players, unless you consider the scholarships all encompassing compensation.

I would consider scholarships compensation.

[Thondalar]

Maybe with 35 hyphens I worded it wrong.

But college sports are pure bullshit, calling the participants kids and not paying them.

They're going to school. They choose to play football or not.

[Buckwheet]

I would consider scholarships compensation.

Its just not enough. If you read through the player injury contract with the NCAA it is fairly pathetic. More/better insurance should be purchased for the players in case of life/career ending injuries.

[Parkbandit]

Its just not enough. If you read through the player injury contract with the NCAA it is fairly pathetic. More/better insurance should be purchased for the players in case of life/career ending injuries.

I've got no problem with that. I do have problems with universities paying a salary to their student athletes as it would essentially destroy college sports.

[ZeP]

I would consider scholarships compensation.

Golf clap.

[ZeP]

I've got no problem with that. I do have problems with universities paying a salary to their student athletes as it would essentially destroy college sports.

Is it that easy? Should be do-able. Lets go.

You have to be wrong because there is a lot of illegal money anyway. No, not tattoos or autographs. Hmm.

[Parkbandit]

Is it that easy? Should be do-able. Lets go.

You have to be wrong because there is a lot of illegal money anyway. No, not tattoos or autographs. Hmm.

What?

English, do you speak it?

[ZeP]

I sure do. That was a poor reply. Try again?

[Parkbandit]

I sure do.

That is unproven so far.


That was a poor reply.

I agree.. which is why I asked if you even speak English.


Try again?

Which language do you require? I apologize, by retardese is rusty AF.

[Wrathbringer]

Is it that easy? Should be do-able. Lets go.

You have to be wrong because there is a lot of illegal money anyway. No, not tattoos or autographs. Hmm.

Are you having a stroke?

[ZeP]

Ok, the coraesine backpack man has no place in any thread. Please. I will engage ParkBandit but you clearly never got this game at all, Wrathbringer.

[Wrathbringer]

Ok, the coraesine backpack man has no place in any thread. Please. I will engage ParkBandit but you clearly never got this game at all, Wrathbringer.

You must be having a stroke. We're discussing NCAA sports, not gemstone iv. Shall I direct you to the proper folder?

[ZeP]

I am discussing NCAA sports and I also decided to discuss Gemstone IV. I don't think any posts need to be moved.

[Wrathbringer]

I am discussing NCAA sports and I also decided to dicuss Gemstove IV when your dumb ass showed up. I don't think any posts need to be moved.

I don't blame you for changing the subject. You were losing. Badly. Due to your stroke, no doubt.

[ZeP]

It isn't a debate. Not paying adults for these college sports is a scam.

Could you explain more about what you are implying with the stroke?

[Wrathbringer]

It isn't a debate. Not paying adults for these college sports is a scam.

Could you explain more about what you are implying with the stroke?

Actually, it is a debate. I know you think you're correct, though. As for the stroke thing, your reply made zero sense and came across as posted by a crack head who had just stumbled upon this thread. I was giving you an out.

[ZeP]

I don't frequent the board much these days so I was indeed only checking out this thread specifically.

I guess it is a debate actually. Buckwheet mentioned insurance, which would proably be better than straight pay, since there are like 100+ players on a college football team for example.

[Wrathbringer]

I don't frequent the board much these days so I was indeed only checking out this thread specifically.

http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?93917-Krakii-Status&p=1731816#post1731816

[Keller]

Looks like LSU will be stomping the shit out of Notre Dame in a bowl game this year.

Well, this is awkward.

[Keller]

Keller, your thoughts?

Post-game thoughts - great game. I hope you and WB see now why I think ND has legit championship hope next year when they are healthy and have the suspended players back. We lose 2 starters and return everyone else.

I wouldn't be surprised to see both ND and LSU in the playoffs next year. Fournette is only going to get better, and you've similarly got a young, talented nucleus.

[RichardCranium]

Post-game thoughts - great game. I hope you and WB see now why I think ND has legit championship hope next year when they are healthy and have the suspended players back. We lose 2 starters and return everyone else.

I wouldn't be surprised to see both ND and LSU in the playoffs next year. Fournette is only going to get better, and you've similarly got a young, talented nucleus.

only if Brandon Harris develops will LSU make any noise. The defense will be salty, but their QB situation is fucked.