Democrats reminding everyone they started the KKK

[Tgo01]

Story. (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/01/black-gop-florida_n_5548354.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular)


Gloreatha "Glo" Scurry-Smith, who is running in the Florida GOP primary to take on Rep. Corrine Brown (D) in November, recently experienced a very disturbing case of racial discrimination.

On Sunday, Smith tweeted a picture of a vandalized campaign sign, in which her face was covered in white spray paint:

Smith, who says her husband found the sign in Jacksonville, Florida, told National Review that she "expect[ed] signs to be tampered with or stolen, but not to this extent.”

“Throughout this entire incident, I go back to Martin Luther King’s comment that we look forward to a time when people will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character,” Smith added. “I’ve got too much work to focus on to be bothering with things like this.”

But don't worry, her black female Democratic opponent stood up for her and condemned the actions of the person/people who did this.


Brown said regarding the incident that "to be talking about signs is ludicrous to me -- and you know, and whatever happened was unfortunate but I personally do not get involved in campaigning months in advance."

Oh...wait...no...she didn't.

[poloneus]

Confused by your title. You do know that the Democrats of the 1800's have zero to do with the Democratic Party of today, right?

[Tgo01]

Confused by your title. You do know that the Democrats of the 1800's have zero to do with the Democratic Party of today, right?

That's just what the Demokrats want you to think.

[waywardgs]

You did it wrong. It's democrat.

[poloneus]

For example:
http://www.270towin.com/
Check your late 1800's and early 1900's vs. modern elections.

[Tgo01]

I'm not saying all Democrats are racist, just the ones that aren't Republicans.

[Back]

Just shows how the twisted mind of Tgo01 works.

[Thondalar]

Confused by your title. You do know that the Democrats of the 1800's have zero to do with the Democratic Party of today, right?

This is a pretty common misconception, that Democrats and Republicans somehow "switched" at one point. There's no historical evidence of this at all. Robert Byrd was a democrat when he started his own KKK chapter in 1943, and he was a Democrat when he died in 2010.

[Tgo01]

Just shows how the twisted mind of Tgo01 works.

Seems pretty obvious to me.

Democrats are bashing a black woman because she's black.

Democrats started the KKK, a well known racist organization who hates blacks.

Where is the confusion here?

[Jarvan]

This is a pretty common misconception, that Democrats and Republicans somehow "switched" at one point. There's no historical evidence of this at all. Robert Byrd was a democrat when he started his own KKK chapter in 1943, and he was a Democrat when he died in 2010.

They always point out the few dems that refused to vote yes to the civil rights bill and then became republicans. Of course They NEVER want to talk about all the republicans that pushed for the same bill and STAYED republicans. Not to mention they never want to talk about the fact that LBJ refused to bring a Civil Right Bill to the floor when he was in Congress (during a Republican president that wanted the Bill), but then rain praises on the guy for signing the bill when he was President.

[waywardgs]

Wait, what? I thought racism was a myth!

[Warriorbird]

This is because of all the poor Republicans who get called racists. Tgo01 is trolling people for justice, obviously, because if you say something is true about someone else it could never ever be true about yourself.

[Back]

What people don't say says everything.

[Tgo01]

This is because of all the poor Republicans who get called racists. Tgo01 is trolling people for justice, obviously, because if you say something is true about someone else it could never ever be true about yourself.

Don't be mad just because I'm right.

[poloneus]

This is a pretty common misconception, that Democrats and Republicans somehow "switched" at one point. There's no historical evidence of this at all. Robert Byrd was a democrat when he started his own KKK chapter in 1943, and he was a Democrat when he died in 2010.

Never said they switched, just said Democrats of 1800's and today are different. (BTW you selected to make a point using 1943. That is not 1800's or today).

Since you brought up "switching" I guess what you're referring to are those signature issues that were once held by Southern Democrats of the 1800's that are now Republican values. Things like small government and states rights - yeah no "historical evidence".

[Jarvan]

Never said they switched, just said Democrats of 1800's and today are different. (BTW you selected to make a point using 1943. That is not 1800's or today).

Since you brought up "switching" I guess what you're referring to are those signature issues that were once held by Southern Democrats of the 1800's that are now Republican values. Things like small government and states rights - yeah no "historical evidence".

You are right, no historical evidence. Since a large number of Dems became republicans with the anti slavery movement. The Original Dem party held MANY diverse beliefs. Because it was formed of many diverse people. Some things changed, and some stayed the same. I personally think the change with the whole African American vote started with FDR and the New Deal. Always easy to get votes when you give stuff away.

Remember tho.. Not every Republican is a Conservative, Not ever Dem is a Liberal/Progressive. Look at the Theodore Roosevelt, he really wasn't a Republican, even by the days standards. He was a progressive, which should really be it's own party, but he was MUCH more Democrat then Republican.

Suffice it to say.. Republicans were never racist, there are Racist republicans tho. Dems historically, were racist, but Dems are not racist. The party was, and to a degree still is, they just use it in a new way is all.

[Warriorbird]

You are right, no historical evidence. Since a large number of Dems became republicans with the anti slavery movement. The Original Dem party held MANY diverse beliefs. Because it was formed of many diverse people. Some things changed, and some stayed the same. I personally think the change with the whole African American vote started with FDR and the New Deal. Always easy to get votes when you give stuff away.

Remember tho.. Not every Republican is a Conservative, Not ever Dem is a Liberal/Progressive. Look at the Theodore Roosevelt, he really wasn't a Republican, even by the days standards. He was a progressive, which should really be it's own party, but he was MUCH more Democrat then Republican.

Suffice it to say.. Republicans were never racist, there are Racist republicans tho. Dems historically, were racist, but Dems are not racist. The party was, and to a degree still is, they just use it in a new way is all.

To the Republicans credit they were mostly founded with the anti slavery movement. What switched a bunch of Democrats to Lincoln's camp is that even though a lot of the Democrats were pro slavery they weren't for the Civil War.

Both parties have shifted and changed quite a bit with the times. Andrew Jackson, who pretty much created the Democratic Party, largely opposed what Republicans would think of these days as "big government." Simultaneously he threatened South Carolina during the Nullification Crisis if they wouldn't pay their tariffs.

A single politician alone or even a few doesn't invalidate the switch in parties that went on in the South over civil rights. Many Republicans (people forget Eisenhower sent in troops to allow black people to go to college) certainly acted benevolently but the people who worked to continue slavery largely switched wholesale from Democrat to Republican around the election of Kennedy and during the 1960s. Ignoring the Republican "Solid South" switch is as foolish a notion as claiming that there weren't racist Democrats.

[Latrinsorm]

I personally think the change with the whole African American vote started with FDR and the New Deal. Always easy to get votes when you give stuff away.It's hard to tell if you just look at FDR, because everyone voted for FDR. Get to 1952 and the Deep South is still solid blue (and for an Illini no less) while the rest of the nation goes red. The sudden change is from 1960 to 1964: Alabama and Georgia gave electoral votes to a Republican candidate, which they hadn't done in 100 years. Aside from Carter they've never gone back to Democrat.

As for the black vote, it's tough to look at their voting pre-LBJ because they experienced significant disenfranchisement (obviously). Did more blacks vote Democrat because more blacks wanted to or because more blacks were allowed to? If we look at party affiliation (http://blackdemographics.com/culture/black-politics/), though, as late as 1944 it was a 50/50 thing.

[Kembal]

They always point out the few dems that refused to vote yes to the civil rights bill and then became republicans. Of course They NEVER want to talk about all the republicans that pushed for the same bill and STAYED republicans. Not to mention they never want to talk about the fact that LBJ refused to bring a Civil Right Bill to the floor when he was in Congress (during a Republican president that wanted the Bill), but then rain praises on the guy for signing the bill when he was President.

Read Robert Caro's biography of LBJ before you make that kind of comment about him. Considering that LBJ immediately started pushing for the Civil Rights Act as soon as he became president, I would suggest that he did a lot more than just "signing the bill".

[Warriorbird]

Read Robert Caro's biography of LBJ before you make that kind of comment about him. Considering that LBJ immediately started pushing for the Civil Rights Act as soon as he became president, I would suggest that he did a lot more than just "signing the bill".

Stop suggesting serious history to him. He's going to bring out some hearsay from a Republican political strategist who wrote a "history" book about LBJ.

[Tgo01]

You gotta admit, Democrats are cute when it comes to racism.

A football team has had the name "Redskins" for, what, I dunno, 60+ years now? But the owner and the name are a bunch of racists. I believe Back even said the argument was over that it's racist and it's only a matter of time until the name changes.

But here we have a Republican having her image "white faced" and Democrats go on rants dating back 200 years ago claiming that Republicans back in the day who fought for civil rights were really "Democrats" and the Democrats who were the racist assholes who started the KKK and tried to stop civil rights were really "Republicans."

Holy hell, people! You can all rally around and say a freaking football team's name is racist but you can't look at this story/picture and say it's racist?

Call a spade a spade! /rimshot

[Warriorbird]

You gotta admit, Democrats are cute when it comes to racism.

A football team has had the name "Redskins" for, what, I dunno, 60+ years now? But the owner and the name are a bunch of racists. I believe Back even said the argument was over that it's racist and it's only a matter until the name changes.

But here we have a Republican having her image "white faced" and Democrats go on rants dating back 200 years ago claiming that Republicans back in the day who fought for civil rights were really "Democrats" and the Democrats who were the racist assholes who started the KKK and tried to stop civil rights were really "Republicans."

Holy hell, people! You can all rally around and say a freaking football team's name is racist but you can't look at this story/picture and say it's racist?

Call a spade a spade! /rimshot

It's the best thing Dan Snyder could've possibly done making you defend him and love him.

[Tgo01]

It's the best thing Dan Snyder could've possibly done making you defend him and love him.

I don't even know who Dan Snyder is but from context I imagine he's the owner of the Redskins and therefore he's a racist asshole.

Okay fine. Now what about the thugs who white faced this lady's image? Can you call it racist? Can you? CAN YOU?!

[Warriorbird]

I don't even know who Dan Snyder is but from context I imagine he's the owner of the Redskins and therefore he's a racist asshole.

Okay fine. Now what about the thugs who white faced this lady's image? Can you call it racist? Can you? CAN YOU?!

Of course it was. I wouldn't be so sure it wasn't her primary opponent's staff though.

[Methais]

Of course it was. I wouldn't be so sure it wasn't her primary opponent's staff though.

What if the primary was over and it was the general election? Would you be not so sure that it wasn't disgruntled fans of the person she beat in the primary?

[Tgo01]

Of course it was. I wouldn't be so sure it wasn't her primary opponent's staff though.

Of course, because it is Republicans who often demonize minorities who dare be Republican :D

[Methais]

Thread: Democrats reminding everyone they started the KKK

what if you filled your drawers completely with poop

I would have a massive case of poopie pants, obviously.

[waywardgs]

I would have a massive case of poopie pants, obviously.

You got struck by the Mad Shitter.

[Warriorbird]

Of course, because it is Republicans who often demonize minorities who dare be Republican :D

I heard that primaries are often mean and nasty. Here's another example of this sort of thing from a famous Republican named George Bush against John McCain.

http://www.thenation.com/article/dirty-tricks-south-carolina-and-john-mccain


What if the primary was over and it was the general election? Would you be not so sure that it wasn't disgruntled fans of the person she beat in the primary?

It could be the other party, but that'd be stupid because I'm pretty sure it'd alienate black voters who Democrats need. I might think it was supremacists. It isn't then though, so it's a cool alternate world where you "really got me!"

[Tgo01]

I heard that primaries are often mean and nasty. Here's another example of this sort of thing from a famous Republican named George Bush against John McCain.

http://www.thenation.com/article/dirty-tricks-south-carolina-and-john-mccain

It could be the other party, but that'd be stupid because I'm pretty sure it'd alienate black voters who Democrats need. I might think it was supremacists. It isn't then though, so it's a cool alternate world where you "really got me!"

Your narratives aren't making much sense. Why would Republicans paint her as a "white sell out"? How would this even make her look bad to potential Republican voters? I'm really at a lose here.

It makes more sense for Democrats, who often perceive Republican minorities as "traitors" and "Uncle Toms", to want to make her seem like she's not really a "black woman."

Occam's razor, WB. Occam's razor.

[Warriorbird]

Your narratives aren't making much sense. Why would Republicans paint her as a "white sell out"? How would this even make her look bad to potential Republican voters? I'm really at a lose here.

It makes more sense for Democrats, who often perceive Republican minorities as "traitors" and "Uncle Toms", to want to make her seem like she's not really a "black woman."

Occam's razor, WB. Occam's razor.

If you suggest someone is a token candidate you diminish their value in the eyes of others. It also hearkens to the famous white face Obama/Joker photo, which Republicans just love to troll people with. It could be seen as an attempt to connect her to that meme and Obama with the diehard Republicans who typically vote in local primaries.

The opposite of your argument is true. Why would Democrats paint her as a "white sellout" (your words) during primary season? You'd think it'd draw her a lot of sympathy and support.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashley_Todd_mugging_hoax

[Tgo01]

If you suggest someone is a token candidate you diminish their value in the eyes of others. It also hearkens to the famous white face Obama/Joker photo, which Republicans just love to troll people with. It could be seen as an attempt to connect her to that meme and Obama with the diehard Republicans who typically work in local primaries.

Occam's razor, WB. Occam's razor.


The opposite of your argument is true. Why would Democrats paint her as a "white sellout" (your words) during primary season? You'd think it'd draw her a lot of sympathy and support.

You really think vandals thought about that when they did that? Or that she's going to get sympathy or support from this?

Occam's razor, WB. Occam's razor.

[Warriorbird]

Occam's razor, WB. Occam's razor.



You really think vandals thought about that when they did that? Or that she's going to get sympathy or support from this?

Occam's razor, WB. Occam's razor.

We live in the world of both the "HE HAS A BLACK CHILD!" campaign against McCain and the Ashley Todd mugging. Those are actual facts as opposed to mere trolling attempts. Republican primaries have also gotten REALLY nasty lately.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_O%27Keefe is also alive. I could see this as exactly his thought process.

Basically, any of the political descendants of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Atwater could have done something like that.

[Tgo01]

We live in the world of both the "HE HAS A BLACK CHILD!" campaign against McCain and the Ashley Todd mugging. Those are actual facts as opposed to mere trolling attempts. Republican primaries have also gotten REALLY nasty lately.

We also live in a world where time and time again Republican minorities are demonized by Democrats.

Those are facts too.

Again, Occam's razor.

[Warriorbird]

We also live in a world where time and time again Republican minorities are demonized by Democrats.

Those are facts too.

Again, Occam's razor.

It cuts both ways. Primary season.

[Tgo01]

It cuts both ways. Primary season.

Occam's razor.

[Warriorbird]

Occam's razor.

Occam's razor.

[waywardgs]

Occam's razor.



Occam's razor.

Maslow's hammer

[Warriorbird]

Maslow's hammer

Ah ha ha ha.

http://liveinthecourt.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/mchammer.jpg

[Latrinsorm]

Chekhov's Rifle pwns all your implements.

Eventually.

[Warriorbird]

One must never place a loaded rifle on the stage if it isn't going to go off. It's wrong to make promises you don't mean to keep.

Happy 4th of July from Chekhov!