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ClydeR
06-24-2014, 09:35 PM
In an effort to make the United Kingdom a tobacco-free society by 2035, the nation’s doctors’ union will start lobbying to ban cigarette sales to anyone born after 2000.

That means, if you’re 14 or younger, you may never be able to buy ciggs.

More... (http://www.ryot.org/cigarette-sales-ban-2000-united-kingdom/733961)

This is the sort of big government nanny state that we don't need in the United States.

Warriorbird
06-24-2014, 09:38 PM
Mind that gap! Ah ha ha ha the generation gap.

Dwaar
06-24-2014, 09:39 PM
Jesus Christ... time to put on those V masks and take up a revolt! The Brits won't let this stand, they like them some fags.

Latrinsorm
06-24-2014, 09:50 PM
Jesus Christ... time to put on those V masks and take up a revolt! The Brits won't let this stand, they like them some fags.Too bad the government already took all their guns. U mad, England?

Dwaar
06-24-2014, 09:51 PM
Too bad the government already took all their guns. U mad, England?

HAHA... they better get ready for the Germans next.

Edit** Wait. To soon?

Gelston
06-24-2014, 10:08 PM
I am sure we have groups in the US lobbying for the same thing here, if not for an outright ban on them completely.

subzero
06-24-2014, 11:00 PM
I think cigarettes are disgusting and would be perfectly ok had they never existed. However, the cat's long out of the bag now. If people want to smoke the shit, it's on them. I do like laws against smoking in public places such as restaurants and whatnot, but can't agree with an outright ban.

Plus, prohibition works.

ClydeR
06-25-2014, 08:48 PM
I can't help but notice that the same people who want to legalize marijuana are most often the strongest critics of tobacco. Double standard there.

Androidpk
06-25-2014, 08:52 PM
I can't help but notice that the same people who want to legalize marijuana are most often the strongest critics of tobacco. Double standard there.

You sure about that?

Seran
06-25-2014, 08:56 PM
The title of the article and what is exactly being attempted are too wildly different things. A group lobbying to outlaw cigarettes is a whole hell of a lot different that a law already in place to do just that.

Elantari
06-25-2014, 09:37 PM
I can't help but notice that the same people who want to legalize marijuana are most often the strongest critics of tobacco. Double standard there.

Being that you're only as smart as a newborn tapeworm, I'm quite confident that you can't successfully explain why this is a double standard.

ClydeR
06-26-2014, 08:12 PM
Being that you're only as smart as a newborn tapeworm, I'm quite confident that you can't successfully explain why this is a double standard.

I will answer even though you were impolite in the way you asked.

Both cases involve igniting leaves and inhaling the smoke into your lungs. There was a time when tobacco companies told people that it was good for them (http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-insane-trends-from-vintage-cigarette-ads/), and people actually believed it. This time, don't be gullible.

Androidpk
06-26-2014, 09:06 PM
I will answer even though you were impolite in the way you asked.

Both cases involve igniting leaves and inhaling the smoke into your lungs. There was a time when tobacco companies told people that it was good for them (http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-insane-trends-from-vintage-cigarette-ads/), and people actually believed it. This time, don't be gullible.

Smoking cigarettes causes lung cancer. Smoking cannabis sites not. Also, cannabis can be vaporized or made into edibles. Not sure that the same can be said about cigarettes. I would be against banning tobacco though as I believe in free will and the power to make life choices like this without government intervention.

subzero
06-27-2014, 01:22 AM
I can't help but notice that the same people who want to legalize marijuana are most often the strongest critics of tobacco. Double standard there.

Being critical of tobacco doesn't mean we want it made illegal while cannabis is made legal. They should both be legal. I wouldn't expect to smoke a joint in a restaurant or any public place not designated for such activity. Seems right in line with how I feel about cigarettes.

Gelston
06-27-2014, 01:24 AM
I think cigarettes are disgusting and would be perfectly ok had they never existed. However, the cat's long out of the bag now. If people want to smoke the shit, it's on them. I do like laws against smoking in public places such as restaurants and whatnot, but can't agree with an outright ban.

Plus, prohibition works.

I think marijuana is disgusting and would be perfectly ok if it never existed. However, the cat's long out of the bag now. If people want to smoke the shit, it's on them. I do like laws against smoking in public places such as restaurants and whatnot, but can't agree with an outright ban.

ClydeR
06-27-2014, 09:38 PM
I think marijuana is disgusting and would be perfectly ok if it never existed. However, the cat's long out of the bag now. If people want to smoke the shit, it's on them. I do like laws against smoking in public places such as restaurants and whatnot, but can't agree with an outright ban.

If you look at the chart in this article (http://www.buzzfeed.com/jsvine/which-developed-countries-snort-the-most-cocaine-smoke-the-m), you'll see that the United States is way out of line with other counties on marijuana and cocaine use. It's time for a war on drugs. We need tougher drug laws with longer sentences for people who use these drugs.

Gelston
06-27-2014, 11:29 PM
If you look at the chart in this article (http://www.buzzfeed.com/jsvine/which-developed-countries-snort-the-most-cocaine-smoke-the-m), you'll see that the United States is way out of line with other counties on marijuana and cocaine use. It's time for a war on drugs. We need tougher drug laws with longer sentences for people who use these drugs.

What have we been doing for the last 40 or 50 years? A skirmish on drugs?

Androidpk
06-27-2014, 11:57 PM
What have we been doing for the last 40 or 50 years? A skirmish on drugs?

Reconnaissance.

JackWhisper
06-28-2014, 12:06 AM
I don't know about you guys, but for the last 30 years, I've just been doing drugs. I'm lazy like that.

Thondalar
06-28-2014, 12:39 AM
If you look at the chart in this article (http://www.buzzfeed.com/jsvine/which-developed-countries-snort-the-most-cocaine-smoke-the-m), you'll see that the United States is way out of line with other counties on marijuana and cocaine use.

I like how a lot of the countries on the bottom left are the ones with the most liberal drug policies. Portugal, anyone?

subzero
06-28-2014, 12:46 AM
I think marijuana is disgusting and would be perfectly ok if it never existed. However, the cat's long out of the bag now. If people want to smoke the shit, it's on them. I do like laws against smoking in public places such as restaurants and whatnot, but can't agree with an outright ban.

Cool.

subzero
06-28-2014, 12:56 AM
I like how a lot of the countries on the bottom left are the ones with the most liberal drug policies. Portugal, anyone?

Don't bring that hippie nonsense in here!

I'm sort of surprised we were so high on the list for cocaine. I blame the entertainment industry! Also wondered how the wealth of various countries affected their usage...

"practically all of the world's cocaine is produced in three countries in South America. While there is no conclusive evidence with respect to the extent of cocaine use in Africa and Asia, expert opinion indicates that there may be pockets of emerging cocaine use in those two regions, related to the rise in trafficking through Africa and increased affluence in both continents. "

Our proximity to the production probably plays a good part, as well.

Androidpk
06-28-2014, 12:59 AM
Don't bring that hippie nonsense in here!

I'm sort of surprised we were so high on the list for cocaine. I blame the entertainment industry! Also wondered how the wealth of various countries affected their usage...

"practically all of the world's cocaine is produced in three countries in South America. While there is no conclusive evidence with respect to the extent of cocaine use in Africa and Asia, expert opinion indicates that there may be pockets of emerging cocaine use in those two regions, related to the rise in trafficking through Africa and increased affluence in both continents. "

Our proximity to the production probably plays a good part, as well.

The federal government allowing Mexican cartels to ship coke over the border for so many years plays a large part as well.

Latrinsorm
06-28-2014, 02:21 PM
I like how a lot of the countries on the bottom left are the ones with the most liberal drug policies. Portugal, anyone?I count 13 countries in the lower left 36% of quadrant III. Cannabis laws taken from here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legality_of_cannabis_by_country):

Turkey, South Korea, Greece, Hungary, Slovakia, Poland, Finland, Norway, Sweden - 4 illegal
Mexico, Italy - 1 decriminalized, 3 illegal
Portugal - 3 decriminalized, 1 illegal
Slovenia - not listed

Scanning down the same list for others with decriminalization that are on the graph, we find...
QI - Australia, Canada, Spain
QII - Netherlands
QIII - Belgium, Czech Republic, Estonia, Switzerland
QIV - none

As usual, concluding anything from a single data point is perilous. :)

Methais
06-28-2014, 02:49 PM
I can't help but notice that the same people who want to legalize marijuana are most often the strongest critics of tobacco. Double standard there.

1. Tobacco is much worse for you.
2. Pot's only real negative health effects come from the actual act of smoking, not the pot itself.
3. Pot doesn't have to be smoked in order to get blasted.

Methais
06-28-2014, 02:56 PM
If you look at the chart in this article (http://www.buzzfeed.com/jsvine/which-developed-countries-snort-the-most-cocaine-smoke-the-m), you'll see that the United States is way out of line with other counties on marijuana and cocaine use.

People shouldn't use cocaine. When you use cocaine, this happens:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h47cmkO4b7g