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4a6c1
06-27-2013, 09:43 PM
So how harmful was DOMA really? If you happen to be a same sex spouse of a member of our military the answer is very much. Previously the spouses of gay military members did not share all those benefits enjoyed by heterosexual spouses. The repeal of DADT only did so much. What follows is a DoD release outlining the proposed changes. I say finally!


Hagel: Defense Department Welcomes Supreme Court Decision

American Forces Press Service

WASHINGTON, June 26, 2013 – Defense Department officials will move forward in making benefits available to all military spouses, Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel said in a statement issued after the U.S. Supreme Court struck down the Defense of Marriage Act.

The law had prevented federal agencies from offering all of the same benefits to spouses in same-sex marriages that they provide to other spouses.

Here is the secretary’s statement:

The Department of Defense welcomes the Supreme Court's decision today on the Defense of Marriage Act. The Department will immediately begin the process of implementing the Supreme Court's decision in consultation with the Department of Justice and other executive branch agencies. The Department of Defense intends to make the same benefits available to all military spouses -- regardless of sexual orientation -- as soon as possible. That is now the law, and it is the right thing to do.

Every person who serves our nation in uniform stepped forward with courage and commitment. All that matters is their patriotism, their willingness to serve their country and their qualifications to do so. Today's ruling helps ensure that all men and women who serve this country can be treated fairly and equally, with the full dignity and respect they so richly deserve.

Later, a Defense Department spokesman issued a statement detailing some of the steps the department is taking:

-- The Department will immediately begin to update the identification card issuance infrastructure and update the applicable implementing guidance. We estimate that this process will take about 6-12 weeks. For civilian employees, the Department will look to OPM for guidance. For civilian employees who are eligible for ID card-related benefits, the Department intends that ID cards will be made available to same-sex spouses of civilian employees at the same time as same-sex spouses of military members.

-- The Supreme Court's ruling means that the Defense Department will extend all benefits to same-sex spouses of military personnel that are currently extended to opposite-sex spouses, including medical, dental, interment at Arlington National Cemetery, and with-dependent Basic Allowance for Housing. The Department will implement these benefit changes as soon as possible for same-sex spouses.

-- The policies governing burial at Arlington National Cemetery will apply equally to same-sex and opposite-sex spouses.

-- We are carefully reviewing command sponsorship for overseas tours, and all applicable Status of Forces agreements.

-- We will assess costs as we move forward with implementation.


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Hagel Statement

http://www.defense.gov/News/NewsArticle.aspx?ID=120364

thefarmer
06-27-2013, 10:56 PM
So how harmful was DOMA really? If you happen to be a same sex spouse of a member of our military the answer is very much. Previously the spouses of gay military members did not share all those benefits enjoyed by heterosexual spouses. The repeal of DADT only did so much. What follows is a DoD release outlining the proposed changes. I say finally!



DOMA just prevents gay men and women from leeching on their career-minded partners.

DOWN WITH DOMESTIC LEECHES!

Tgo01
06-27-2013, 11:00 PM
Is the military a career or a job?

tyrant-201
06-27-2013, 11:01 PM
Is the military a career or a job?

Voluntary enslavement.

Parkbandit
06-28-2013, 07:50 AM
I haven't heard one mention about the level of passion.. so how are we supposed to know if it's a job or career?????

4a6c1
06-28-2013, 11:19 PM
I haven't heard one mention about the level of passion.. so how are we supposed to know if it's a job or career?????

Hahaha that's great. As if there's some kind of magic passion meter or something. There isn't and I would explain further but I don't want to make you vomit. You get a half-cocked touché for that one.

Parkbandit
06-29-2013, 07:55 AM
Hahaha that's great. As if there's some kind of magic passion meter or something. There isn't and I would explain further but I don't want to make you vomit.

Wait.. wasn't "passion" your measure for the difference between a job and a career?


You get a half-cocked touché for that one.

I officially decline your half cock.

No thank you.

4a6c1
06-29-2013, 11:17 AM
Wait.. wasn't "passion" your measure for the difference between a job and a career?


Yes and no. It's complicated. I'm pretty far over the edge of militant feminism. I was trying to save you the trouble of reading anything from my perspective on these issues. It's not a graduated metering of passion, hahaha. As funny as that sounds. It's more an on or off switch. You either become a cog in the machine of centuries old systematic domestic repression of females or you don't.

AnticorRifling
06-29-2013, 11:20 AM
What's it like to be retarded but pretend your educated?

Candor
06-29-2013, 11:22 AM
What's it like to be retarded but pretend your educated?

There's a lot of retarded but educated folks around. A few are pretty active on this board.

4a6c1
06-29-2013, 11:24 AM
What's it like to be retarded but pretend your educated?

Ask anyone who went to university ever. Typical grown up life!

Tisket
06-29-2013, 11:35 AM
Wait...did rojo just try and say that only militant feminists can have passion for their jobs/careers/work (I don't know what we are supposed to call it now!!)?

The more often she posts, the less she makes sense.

4a6c1
06-29-2013, 11:37 AM
No.

AnticorRifling
06-29-2013, 11:38 AM
I think she said it's impossible to have a career unless you hate penis for no reason other than lack of personal possession of said penis.

Tisket
06-29-2013, 11:38 AM
No.

Post number eight would beg to differ.

Tisket
06-29-2013, 11:39 AM
I think she said it's impossible to have a career unless you hate penis for no reason other than lack of personal possession of said penis.

I guess that means I "just" have a job then. I love penis.

AnticorRifling
06-29-2013, 11:40 AM
That is your job.

~Rocktar~
06-29-2013, 01:22 PM
Yes and no. It's complicated. I'm pretty far over the edge of militant feminism. I was trying to save you the trouble of reading anything from my perspective on these issues. It's not a graduated metering of passion, hahaha. As funny as that sounds. It's more an on or off switch. You either become a cog in the machine of centuries old systematic domestic repression of females or you don't.

So how are women repressed again? You have Title 9 which didn't get more women into sports, just killed mens sports other than Football and Basketball. You have equal pay for equal work except that women tend to chose jobs that pay less and end up with less experience in many jobs due to time out of the workforce to have a kid. You have the right to end your pregnancy regardless of how it was initiated without the consent of the other participant. You have extensive tax and subsidy benefits to start businesses. Here in Tennessee you can be a crack whore with an arrest record measured in miles not feet and still keep your kids on divorce or other dispute along with claiming insane child support. You get preferred treatment in most every situation either based on tradition or legal requirement.

AND

Women are the majority on the planet and still you complain and whine.


The only reason a woman doesn't get ahead in this world is the same that men don't, they spend more time whining and less time working. They spend more time complaining on how the "system" is unfair and should change rather than learning how to operate within it and succeed. There is no great conspiracy here, it is simply a case of those who can do and those who can't complain.

Parkbandit
06-29-2013, 01:33 PM
Yes and no. It's complicated. I'm pretty far over the edge of militant feminism. I was trying to save you the trouble of reading anything from my perspective on these issues. It's not a graduated metering of passion, hahaha. As funny as that sounds. It's more an on or off switch. You either become a cog in the machine of centuries old systematic domestic repression of females or you don't.

You have officially overtaken Backlash as the biggest joke on these forums.

Congrats.

Tgo01
06-29-2013, 01:34 PM
How can I become a cog in the machine of the centuries old systematic domestic repression of females?

Taernath
06-29-2013, 01:50 PM
How can I become a cog in the machine of the centuries old systematic domestic repression of females?

Step 1: grow a penis

Tgo01
06-29-2013, 01:53 PM
Step 1: grow a penis

:(

Taernath
06-29-2013, 01:55 PM
step 2: oppress
step 3: ????
step 4: PATRIARCHY

Tgo01
06-29-2013, 01:56 PM
step 2: oppress
step 3: ????
step 4: PATRIARCHY

That's better!

Tisket
06-29-2013, 02:06 PM
You have officially overtaken Backlash as the biggest joke on these forums.

Congrats.

I almost feel a little bad. It's like she's bipolar or something. Her caretaker should take away keyboard access when she gets in the manic phase of the disorder.

diethx
06-29-2013, 02:13 PM
I guess that means I "just" have a job then. I love penis.

Yeah. :(

Fuck you and your rules. I will have a career AND love penis. I love cock. Yummy yummy yummy yummy.

Back
06-29-2013, 02:16 PM
You have officially overtaken Backlash as the biggest joke on these forums.

Congrats.

Never been accused of being a big anything. Her penis is bigger than mine too.

Tisket
06-29-2013, 02:31 PM
Never been accused of being a big anything. Her penis is bigger than mine too.

lol

4a6c1
06-29-2013, 02:51 PM
My perspective on shit is a little cray cray. I've had a polygrapher say that shit TO MY FACE. It was a long road getting here though. No turning back now!

Parkbandit
06-29-2013, 03:22 PM
My perspective on shit is a little cray cray. I've had a polygrapher say that shit TO MY FACE. It was a long road getting here though. No turning back now!

Something we can both agree on then.. you are batshit crazy. It's "feminists" like you who give the whole movement a bad stigma.

For someone who hates the cock like you do.. you sure seem to embrace the fucking nuts.

http://www.gifbin.com/bin/112010/1290603068_crazy-brazilian-murderer-interview.gif

4a6c1
06-29-2013, 03:41 PM
Meh. I know where I stand and what I stand for. That's enough. And it's inevitable that there are women like me in a society like ours. We are the Romans, right? ordo ab chao

Tisket
06-29-2013, 04:00 PM
Meh. I know where I stand and what I stand for. That's enough. And it's inevitable that there are women like me in a society like ours. We are the Romans, right? ordo ab chao

I've called you grandiose before but I think I'll add a few words to your description: pretentious and pompous.

thefarmer
06-29-2013, 04:02 PM
I've called you grandiose before but I think I'll add a few words to your description: pretentious and pompous.

Keeping with the Roman theme, I see.