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ClydeR
05-16-2013, 01:43 PM
When an oil company drills through an eagle, they have to pay a big fine. But not so with wind turbine companies. As the carcases of dead eagles fall like rain, Obama just looks the other way. The scandal is not the dead eagles. The scandal is that oil companies are treated differently from turbine companies.

What should we call this scandal? Eagle Gate? Turbine Gate?


CONVERSE COUNTY, Wyo. (AP) — It happens about once a month here, on the barren foothills of one of America's green-energy boomtowns: A soaring golden eagle slams into a wind farm's spinning turbine and falls, mangled and lifeless, to the ground.

Killing these iconic birds is not just an irreplaceable loss for a vulnerable species. It's also a federal crime, a charge that the Obama administration has used to prosecute oil companies when birds drown in their waste pits, and power companies when birds are electrocuted by their power lines.

But the administration has never fined or prosecuted a wind-energy company, even those that flout the law repeatedly. Instead, the government is shielding the industry from liability and helping keep the scope of the deaths secret.

More... (http://weather.yahoo.com/ap-impact-wind-farms-pass-eagle-deaths-072316007.html)


"What it boils down to is this: If you electrocute an eagle, that is bad, but if you chop it to pieces, that is OK," said Tim Eicher, a former U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service enforcement agent based in Cody, who helped prosecute the PacifiCorp power line case.

By not enforcing the law, the administration provides little incentive for companies to build wind farms where there are fewer birds. And while companies already operating turbines are supposed to avoid killing birds, in reality there's little they can do once the windmills are spinning.

Wind farms are clusters of turbines as tall as 30-story buildings, with spinning rotors as wide as a passenger jet's wingspan. Though the blades appear to move slowly, they can reach speeds up to 170 mph at the tips, creating tornado-like vortexes.

Flying eagles behave like drivers texting on their cellphones; they don't look up. As they scan for food, they don't notice the industrial turbine blades until it's too late.

Gelston
05-16-2013, 02:17 PM
I think as long as the Wind Turbines are blessed by Native American Shaman and inducted into a tribe, it should be okay.

NinjasLeadTheWay
05-16-2013, 02:22 PM
I think as long as the Wind Turbines are blessed by Native American Shaman and inducted into a tribe, it should be okay.

Ahahahaha

We have them here in Southern California too. They kill about 1000 different birds per year according to the same EPA people who lobbied for them and then sued because they were killing so many birds.

Methais
05-16-2013, 02:36 PM
Since they're wasting so much money on windmills anyway, why not add a gigantic screen to go around them so birds won't get pureed?

Like these, but bigger:
http://lunachan.net/fan/src/133916697241.jpg

Jarvan
05-16-2013, 02:52 PM
Since they're wasting so much money on windmills anyway, why not add a gigantic screen to go around them so birds won't get pureed?

Like these, but bigger:
http://lunachan.net/fan/src/133916697241.jpg

If I were to guess, it's because the blades have to be able to pitch to fully utilize the wind. They would have to be Immense cages, and increase the cost by a ton, not to mention weigh so much they would have to reinforce the bases. It may not even be logistically possible, and if it was, people would bitch cause it would look horrible.

NinjasLeadTheWay
05-16-2013, 02:59 PM
If I were to guess, it's because the blades have to be able to pitch to fully utilize the wind. They would have to be Immense cages, and increase the cost by a ton, not to mention weigh so much they would have to reinforce the bases. It may not even be logistically possible, and if it was, people would bitch cause it would look horrible.

That's the best fuckin idea ever! And they could paint them to match the sky so they wouldn't stand out...oh wait no...then we'd be back to where we started.

Ashlander
05-16-2013, 05:32 PM
If I were to guess, it's because the blades have to be able to pitch to fully utilize the wind. They would have to be Immense cages, and increase the cost by a ton, not to mention weigh so much they would have to reinforce the bases. It may not even be logistically possible, and if it was, people would bitch cause it would look horrible.

But think of how bad ass you'd sound when you went and talked into one.

Jarvan
05-16-2013, 05:45 PM
But think of how bad ass you'd sound when you went and talked into one.

They turn so slowly it wouldn't do anything, I hope you realized this.

Ashlander
05-16-2013, 06:08 PM
They turn so slowly it wouldn't do anything, I hope you realized this.

So you're telling me they don't build these to help cool the planet off?

subzero
05-16-2013, 06:13 PM
They turn so slowly it wouldn't do anything, I hope you realized this.

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Tgo01
05-16-2013, 06:15 PM
The cheaper solution is to just put up a few signs reading "Danger! Fly at least 300 feet above ground for next 2 miles."

ClydeR
11-26-2013, 03:02 PM
In the first case of its kind, a large energy company has pleaded guilty to killing birds at its large wind turbine farms in Wyoming and has agreed to pay $1 million as punishment.

More... (http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-wind-energy-eagle-death-20131123,0,2938734.story)

The law they violated was the Migratory Bird Treaty Act of 1918. And before somebody says there weren't any windmills in 1918, I have just two words.. Don Quixote.