LIVE BENGHAZI Hearings link

[NinjasLeadTheWay]

http://www.c-span.org/Live-Video/C-SPAN3/

[Keller]

Have they impeached Obama yet?

SHOW US THE TRIAL ALREADY!!

[NinjasLeadTheWay]

Have they impeached Obama yet?

SHOW US THE TRIAL ALREADY!!

Should we place bets on whether anyone gets punished at all? And it doesn't count if its some no name scapegoat.

[NinjasLeadTheWay]

If that link doesn't work on your old ass phone, here is the live youtube of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=LCpOA0PiKYs#!

[Archigeek]

Is McCain actually going to show up for this hearing?

[NinjasLeadTheWay]

Have you heard anyone say anything irrelevant or idiotic yet? Maybe he's running late...

[ClydeR]

I wish the witness would talk slower.

[NinjasLeadTheWay]

I wish the witness would talk slower.

I'm guessing he's got some PTSD and this trial is triggering the fuck out of it as well as he lost some friends during this goatfuck. But that's just my two cents.

[Androidpk]

http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/benghazi-scandal-grows_722032.html

This is pretty damning for the White House and State Department.

[Parkbandit]

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2013/05/exclusive-benghazi-talking-points-underwent-12-revisions-scrubbed-of-terror-references/


It was painfully obvious to most people by 9/12/12 that this administration was full of shit regarding this terrorist attack.

[Methais]

Here's the real question:

Does anyone think anything will actually happen to these assholes? Everyone knows they're guilty. It's having something actually become of it that I have doubts about, since everything is so fucked these days.

[NinjasLeadTheWay]

Here's the real question:

Does anyone think anything will actually happen to these assholes? Everyone knows they're guilty. It's having something actually become of it that I have doubts about, since everything is so fucked these days.

They'll burn a few low level folks and maybe a General for it. Then the wheel in the sky will keep on turning...

[Androidpk]

Here's the real question:

Does anyone think anything will actually happen to these assholes? Everyone knows they're guilty. It's having something actually become of it that I have doubts about, since everything is so fucked these days.


Nope. Something may stick against Hillary and hurt her a little bit if she decides to run in 2016. Other than that.. what the dude above me said. I think a lot of people won't really care or understand or will just say this is all one big witch hunt against Obama/Hillary and that we should stop being racists. God bless the children. Ban guns!

[Back]

Yeah, what exactly is the productive part of examining this so minutely? Is it to find someone to punish or to learn from our mistake?

Considering this is an internal investigation I would think we would be more willing to work together to get to the root cause and put safegaurds in place to prevent it from happening again rather than just looking for someone to hang for it.

[Vorpos]

Yeah, what exactly is the productive part of examining this so minutely? Is it to find someone to punish or to learn from our mistake?

Considering this is not an internal investigation I would think we would be more willing to work together to get to the root cause and put safegaurds in place to prevent it from happening again rather than just looking for someone to hang for it.

After we learn from our mistake you should go volunteer to work at the Benghazi embassy. I heard they have a few openings.

[Parkbandit]

Yeah, what exactly is the productive part of examining this so minutely? Is it to find someone to punish or to learn from our mistake?

Considering this is an internal investigation I would think we would be more willing to work together to get to the root cause and put safegaurds in place to prevent it from happening again rather than just looking for someone to hang for it.

It's painfully obvious to most intelligent people that our government purposely misled us on the events surrounding this terrorist attack. You are ok with that?

[Back]

It's painfully obvious to most intelligent people that our government purposely misled us on the events surrounding this terrorist attack. You are ok with that?

By not saying it was a terrorist instead of extremists? C'mon man. This sounds more like a witch hunt to damage Hillary in 2016 than anything remotely productive.

[Archigeek]

To me the biggest problem is that they should have had better security to begin with. This should have been anticipated for sure. I don't see a deliberate effort to mislead. To what end? Please share the part that's so painfully obvious to you.

My personal feeling is that considering the situation there, Benghazi should have been temporarily closed pending some level of government stability in the country. It's possible that it was deemed necessary for some reason which is quite possibly not being discussed right now because it's classified. In that case, it should have been armed to the teeth.

[Androidpk]

By not saying it was a terrorist instead of extremists? C'mon man. This sounds more like a witch hunt to damage Hillary in 2016 than anything remotely productive.

You obviously did not read what was linked. Shocker.

http://i43.tinypic.com/350ukwm.jpg

[Parkbandit]

By not saying it was a terrorist instead of extremists? C'mon man. This sounds more like a witch hunt to damage Hillary in 2016 than anything remotely productive.

You believe that our government simply changed the word "extremist" to "terrorist"?

Holy
Fucking
Shit
...

[Parkbandit]

To me the biggest problem is that they should have had better security to begin with. This should have been anticipated for sure. I don't see a deliberate effort to mislead. To what end? Please share the part that's so painfully obvious to you.

My personal feeling is that considering the situation there, Benghazi should have been temporarily closed pending some level of government stability in the country. It's possible that it was deemed necessary for some reason which is quite possibly not being discussed right now because it's classified. In that case, it should have been armed to the teeth.

I'm not talking about anything leading up to the events at all. Hindsite will always be 20/20.. there's enough armchair quarterbacks that can play the "what if" games.

I'm talking about the obvious attempts at the cover up starting on 9/12/13.

[Androidpk]

I'm talking about the obvious attempts at the cover up starting on 9/12/13.

That is what irks me the most. There is no way Obama was going to let an al-qaeda terrorist attack happen right before the election, on September 11th of all days, even if it meant hanging these Americans out to dry and die to a "violent protest."

[ClydeR]

The so-called "Bhenghazi Moment" is one of the reasons Romney lost the election in 2012. Let's relive those days of yesteryear..


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kbv7H_Sp-U

[Tgo01]

The so-called "Bhenghazi Moment" is one of the reasons Romney lost the election in 2012. Let's relive those days of yesteryear..

I actually agree with ClydeR on this one. Even if Candy Bitchy didn't stick her nose in when she had no place to Romney fucked that whole thing up. There was so much Romney could have attacked Obama with in regards to Benghazi but instead he chose to focus on Obama's words.

What a tool.

[Androidpk]

It is very true that Romney screwed up but I can't say I care all that much. To see Obama stand there and flat out lie though, about being straight with everyone and not misleading anyone, that is just all kinds of messed up.

[Tgo01]

White House Holds Secret Benghazi Briefing, Incensing Some Reporters (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/10/white-house-secret-benghazi-briefing-jay-carney_n_3254800.html)


The White House found itself with another press corps controversy on its hands on Friday, after it emerged that it held a secret briefing about the Benghazi attacks with a select group of White House reporters.

Spokesperson Jay Carney was initially supposed to hold a briefing at 12:30 PM on Friday. However, ABC's Jon Karl threw a wrench in that plan when he reported that the State Department had been involved in lengthy revisions of CIA talking points about the attacks.

All of a sudden, the press briefing was pushed back to 1:45 PM. Then, Politico reported that the White House had held a secret briefing about the Benghazi developments with reporters. The site reported that, while the contents of the briefing were on "deep background," meaning that they could be used as background information in reporting, the existence of the meeting itself was off the record.

However, not all reporters were invited to the briefing. White House journalists have complained many times in the past about their level of access to administration officials. On Friday, at least one, April Ryan, made her feelings about the briefing very clear:

Big mistake!!!!!!Reporters are not happy with this off the record briefing before the briefing with a handful of the Press Corps.
-- AprilDRyan (@AprilDRyan) May 10, 2013

This off the record briefing is not a partisan issue but a matter of journalism and getting true on the record quotes for reports.
-- AprilDRyan (@AprilDRyan) May 10, 2013

I am so unsettled about this.
-- AprilDRyan (@AprilDRyan) May 10, 2013

After the Politico report, the public briefing was again pushed back, this time to 3:15 PM. Politico's Roger Simon mocked the White House's handling of events:

WH brief pushed back from 12:30 to 1:45 to 3:15 as elite press are schmoozed off the record on Benghazi. Gosh, what deft stagecraft.
-- Roger Simon (@politicoroger) May 10, 2013

When he finally started the briefing, Carney addressed the issue:

"We did, as many of you know, have a background briefing here at the White House earlier. I think 14 news organizations were represented, ranging from online to broadcast TV, print and the like. We do those periodically. We hope that participants find them helpful. I will say that no one here believes that briefings like that are a substitute for this briefing."

What a joke this administration is.

[Androidpk]

http://i40.tinypic.com/2zqylo3.jpg

[Archigeek]

I'm not talking about anything leading up to the events at all. Hindsite will always be 20/20.. there's enough armchair quarterbacks that can play the "what if" games.

I'm talking about the obvious attempts at the cover up starting on 9/12/13.

You keep saying there's an obvious coverup. What's being covered up that's so painfully obvious? I honestly want to know, and I'm not hearing the answers. All I'm hearing so far is that someone used the wrong words to describe the tragic event.

[Back]

You obviously did not read what was linked. Shocker.


You believe that our government simply changed the word "extremist" to "terrorist"?

Holy
Fucking
Shit
...

I'm not saying to NOT investigate. I am asking what is the benefit of all this time and energy? What are we going to accomplish? You realize that this is us fighting ourselves?

[Parkbandit]

You keep saying there's an obvious coverup. What's being covered up that's so painfully obvious? I honestly want to know, and I'm not hearing the answers. All I'm hearing so far is that someone used the wrong words to describe the tragic event.

What did this administration blame the attacks on when they first happened.. and up to 2 weeks after? A protest about an anti-Muslim video.

Did anyone honestly believe that this was a protest on 9-11? Yet, that is what we were told happened... only because it was an election season and Obama didn't want the stigma of a terrorist attack and an ambassador assassination 2 months prior to election day.

We already went into depth on this topic:

http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?75190-U-S-ambassador-to-Libya-killed-in-Benghazi-attack

[Parkbandit]

I'm not saying to NOT investigate. I am asking what is the benefit of all this time and energy? What are we going to accomplish? You realize that this is us fighting ourselves?

Holy
Fucking
Shit
....

[Archigeek]

So let me get this straight, 4 people are dead, because of incompetent preparation, but you're not upset with that, you're upset because a politician may have called the perps demonstrators instead of terrorists? I understand the direction of your venom and your priorities.

[Parkbandit]

So let me get this straight, 4 people are dead, because of incompetent preparation, but you're not upset with that, you're upset because a politician may have called the perps demonstrators instead of terrorists? I understand the direction of your venom and your priorities.

You are downplaying the cover up... but I understand why you feel the need to.

It wasn't a word or phrase.. it was a complete fabrication of events to minimize the damage it would cause a re-election campaign.

It's not a surprise why Obama was re-elected with people like you and Backlash happy to carry the water.

[Back]

It's not a surprise why Obama was re-elected with people like you and Backlash happy to carry the water.

Really, dude? Well count me in with the rest of the majority of this country that voted him in twice. I'm quite happy with his work, far far happier than I was with the last president, who by the way mislead us into going into Iraq and still did not get Bin Ladin.

Your bullshit is weak.

[Archigeek]

You are downplaying the cover up... but I understand why you feel the need to.

It wasn't a word or phrase.. it was a complete fabrication of events to minimize the damage it would cause a re-election campaign.

It's not a surprise why Obama was re-elected with people like you and Backlash happy to carry the water.

I get it. You're upset that your boy lost the election because of some perceived political maneuvering, not about 4 dead Americans, even though there are very legitimate concerns about how poorly security was handled. Keep your focus.

[Androidpk]

http://i39.tinypic.com/33jtohh.jpg

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

So let me get this straight, 4 people are dead, because of incompetent preparation, but you're not upset with that, you're upset because a politician may have called the perps demonstrators instead of terrorists? I understand the direction of your venom and your priorities.

Who do you want to answer that call at 3AM... remember that commercial? If you don't think there was political motive behind covering it up, I think you are mistaken.

[Archigeek]

Who do you want to answer that call at 3AM... remember that commercial? If you don't think there was political motive behind covering it up, I think you are mistaken.

I'm not saying there wouldn't be or there wasn't. I wouldn't be the least bit shocked if they downplayed it.

I'm just lining this up against all the other dumbass shit that politicians have done, or our military or covert services and I'm saying to myself, "this is what you're so upset about?" 4 people are dead, the security of our foreign service personel has been poorly handled, and everyone's in a tizzy over whether or not someone tried to soft shoe the event after it was over.

[Parkbandit]

I get it. You're upset that your boy lost the election because of some perceived political maneuvering, not about 4 dead Americans, even though there are very legitimate concerns about how poorly security was handled. Keep your focus.

And you don't care about anything, just as long as your boy won the election by any means necessary.

Keep your focus.

[Parkbandit]

Really, dude? Well count me in with the rest of the majority of this country that voted him in twice. I'm quite happy with his work, far far happier than I was with the last president, who by the way mislead us into going into Iraq and still did not get Bin Ladin.

Your bullshit is weak.

Irony.

[Parkbandit]

I'm not saying there wouldn't be or there wasn't. I wouldn't be the least bit shocked if they downplayed it.

I'm just lining this up against all the other dumbass shit that politicians have done, or our military or covert services and I'm saying to myself, "this is what you're so upset about?" 4 people are dead, the security of our foreign service personel has been poorly handled, and everyone's in a tizzy over whether or not someone tried to soft shoe the event after it was over.

Translation: LEAVE BARACK OBAMA ALOOOONE!

[Rinualdo]

http://www.salon.com/2013/05/10/wh_republicans_had_no_concerns_about_benghazi_emai ls/

Republican members of Congress raised no objections when they first saw internal emails detailing the evolution of the administration’s talking points on Benghazi almost two months ago, senior administration officials said in response to a question from Salon today, and House Speaker John Boehner declined to attend or send a representative to that briefing.
Lawyers with the Office of the Director of National Intelligence briefed House and Senate Intelligence Committee members in March about the emails, which ABC News released today (http://www.salon.com/2013/05/10/benghazi_emails_reveal_turf_war_over_talking_point s/)to much hullabaloo, after officials said they would make them available to members of Congressin February (http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2013/02/22/white-house-sending-benghazi-emails-to-senate/).
Yesterday, Boehner called for (http://www.speaker.gov/general/reports-confirm-scrubbing-benghazi-talking-points-boehner-demands-white-house-release-e) the release of the emails, but the administration officials, who agreed to speak on a conference call with reporters only on the condition of anonymity, said today that Boehner would have seen them had he attended the briefing, to which he and Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi were also invited.
On the Senate side, lawyers briefed Sen. Saxby Chambliss, the vice chairman of the Intelligence Committee, and Sen. Richard Burr, who said the briefing satisfied many of his concerns. “It answers a lot, if not all, of the questions that the committee [had] from an oversight standpoint,” he told the Hill (http://thehill.com/blogs/global-affairs/terrorism/285063-republicans-brennan-involved-in-benghazi-talking-points) at the time. On the House side, those briefed included Intelligence Committee Chairman Michael McCaul. Republican members in neither chamber raised substantive concerns about the emails, the official said, and were free to discuss them publicly as they were not classified.
The emails about the September 2012 attack on the diplomatic post in Libya were shared with members of Congress during negotiations over the confirmation of CIA Director John Brennan. If Republicans had had major problems with what the emails revealed, they probably would have said something at the time and not confirmed Brennan 63-34, White House spokesperson Jay Carney said during his daily press briefing this afternoon. “This is an effort to accuse the administration of hiding something that we did not hide,” Carney said

[Rinualdo]

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-may-8-2013/the-big-benghazi-theory
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-may-8-2013/the-big-benghazi-theory----if-