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Jarvan
12-24-2012, 01:21 AM
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/24/us/politics/senator-crapo-charged-with-drunken-driving.html?_r=0

Charged with D.U.I. Well over the legal limit. he should go to jail, and be kicked out of the Senate. Period.

Tgo01
12-24-2012, 01:40 AM
Personally I blame Latrin for slacking off on his universal surveillance program. This could have been prevented, Latrin.

Archigeek
12-24-2012, 01:42 AM
I dunno, that's not horribly over the limit, but he should be kicked out of the senate for having the name Crapo. How can you possibly accomplish anything in the senate when everyone's snickering when they have to call you Senator Crapo?

Also, when I lived in Virginia, I made dang sure I never drove drunk. Random drunk-check road blocks are allowed in that state, and in the 3.5 years I lived there, I got checked out 3 times. One time they were even stopping all 3 lanes of a 3 lane highway... everyone over to the side.

Gelston
12-24-2012, 01:55 AM
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/24/us/politics/senator-crapo-charged-with-drunken-driving.html?_r=0

Charged with D.U.I. Well over the legal limit. he should go to jail, and be kicked out of the Senate. Period.

I don't think he should be treated any different from anyone else. First time DUI offenders are not often sent to jail(Other than the time right after being busted.) Losing his job, well, that is up to his state I think. I imagine 2016 may be a little more difficult for him, then again, the people of Idaho might not care about a DUI conviction.

Jarvan
12-24-2012, 02:41 AM
I don't think he should be treated any different from anyone else. First time DUI offenders are not often sent to jail(Other than the time right after being busted.) Losing his job, well, that is up to his state I think. I imagine 2016 may be a little more difficult for him, then again, the people of Idaho might not care about a DUI conviction.

I equate drunk driving to someone standing in the street shooting a weapon into the air randomly. If you are driving drunk, you are taking the chance of killing someone every second you are behind the wheel. I personally think it should have mandatory jail time even for first offense. This malarkey of letting people off with a warning is why you have people with multiple DUI's and still driving.

Bobmuhthol
12-24-2012, 03:28 AM
.11 isn't a great number, but the idea that at .07 you're cool and at .08 you're "driving drunk" is kind of bullshit.

TheEschaton
12-24-2012, 04:02 AM
I dunno, does the Senate have ethics rules which would apply here? Are they binding? Are they automatic? I imagine he'll have to face an ethics committee at the very least.

Hell, I'm sure most of our Senators have a criminal record at this point. Though drunk driving is particularly egregious, but that's in my book, and others may not see it that way. I'd rather have a tax evader as a Senator.

4a6c1
12-24-2012, 05:11 AM
BAN ALL DRUNKENESS

msconstrew
12-24-2012, 09:16 AM
.11 isn't "well over" the legal limit. "Well over" is when the driver is. 28 and walking around barefoot at a barn party in northern WI in january, and then he goes and flips his pimped out Jetta at 140mph, killing three people (including himself).

Though I do agree that conviction of a crime during time in offfice should be grounds for automatic impeachment.

Gelston
12-24-2012, 09:32 AM
.11 isn't "well over" the legal limit. "Well over" is when the driver is. 28 and walking around barefoot at a barn party in northern WI in january, and then he goes and flips his pimped out Jetta at 140mph, killing three people (including himself).

Though I do agree that conviction of a crime during time in offfice should be grounds for automatic impeachment.

I wouldn't mind if the Governor of the state decided to replace him, but if the people want him there, he should be there.

Latrinsorm
12-24-2012, 09:56 AM
Personally I blame Latrin for slacking off on his universal surveillance program. This could have been prevented, Latrin.This is an example of a crime that we would have to rely on deterrence, Terrance, at least until we invent smell-o-vision and can measure peoples' BAC via camera. With that said, my system would resolve the criticism that people with revoked licenses can still drive with relative impunity.

And don't blame me, I voted for Artha for Super Administrator.
I wouldn't mind if the Governor of the state decided to replace him, but if the people want him there, he should be there.What if it's not in the peoples' best interest?

Ardwen
12-24-2012, 10:02 AM
Of course he's also a Mormon Bishop, Unless I mis-recall that means he's supposed to abstain entirely from any sort of alcoholic beverages, as Mormons are a dry religion.

Jarvan
12-24-2012, 04:09 PM
Knowing our system, he won't get in trouble at all really. He won't get recalled or brought up on ethics charges, he also if he runs, get easily re-elected. Because voters in general are stupid and just vote for the same person over and over cause that's what they are told to do. Look at some of the criminals in office after all. They lie cheat and steal, get convicted of it, and get re-elected easily.

Sadly.. people really never do what's best for them, they do what is easiest.

Gelston
12-24-2012, 04:10 PM
And don't blame me, I voted for Artha for Super Administrator.What if it's not in the peoples' best interest?

Sometimes democracy sucks.

Latrinsorm
12-24-2012, 05:01 PM
Let me whisper in your ear that you may wake up singing, "Republic! republic!" "...and also, how the hell did a guy with stripey socks break into my house while I was sleeping? Thanks for nothing, Glock!"

ClydeR
12-26-2012, 11:19 AM
Of course he's also a Mormon Bishop, Unless I mis-recall that means he's supposed to abstain entirely from any sort of alcoholic beverages, as Mormons are a dry religion.

Very good point! Yes, they have Mormons in Idaho and he's one of them. He claims to be a teetotaler. And he supported a law signed by Bill Clinton that mandated that states lower the drunk driving limit to 0.080.


Sen. Mike Crapo, R-Idaho, who was arrested on December 23 for driving under the influence, voted for a federal law that requires states to set a .08 blood alcohol content level for over-the-limit driving laws. Non-compliant states would forfeit some of their federal transportation money otherwise.

Crapo registered a BAC level of .110.

More... (http://www.nationaljournal.com/blogs/hotlineoncall/2012/12/crapo-voted-for-federal-law-mandating-08-bac-limit-24)

There hasn't been an arrest of a US Senator since 2007, when a different Senator from Idaho was arrested. If you're a con man and want some easy marks, then Idaho is the place for you! Idaho voters will probably reelect him in 2016.

Methais
12-26-2012, 01:22 PM
Of course he's also a Mormon Bishop, Unless I mis-recall that means he's supposed to abstain entirely from any sort of alcoholic beverages, as Mormons are a dry religion.

Stop trying to blame this on Romney. It's clearly the booze that are at fault.

Ban booze. Even if it saves one life from a drunk driving accident, regardless of the other people that will be killed by the ripple effect of a booze ban, it'll be worth it.

ClydeR
01-06-2013, 06:56 PM
Crapo, who appeared in Alexandria District Court, was sentenced to 180 days in jail, all of which was suspended. His license was suspended for a year, but he’s eligible for a restricted license. Crapo must also pay a $250 fine and complete an alcohol program over the next year.

More... (http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/crime/sen-michael-crapo-sentenced-on-dwi-charge/2013/01/04/7cb5df12-567e-11e2-bf3e-76c0a789346f_story.html)


Standing outside the courthouse in Alexandria after his guilty plea, Crapo said that he had been drinking several vodka and tonics at his Capitol Hill apartment before he decided to go for a drive because he was “restless and could not sleep.” Crapo said he drove alone into Virginia.

Something's not right about his story about being restless and deciding to go for a drive.

Jarvan
01-06-2013, 08:25 PM
I love the fact that he was given 180 days of jail time, but it was suspended. Could someone explain that to me, does he have to serve it in the future, or he never has to? Seems kinda screwed up to me.

Latrinsorm
01-06-2013, 08:59 PM
It's suspended in a solution of the infinite panoply of universes, any given one of which could conceivably contain a version of Senator Crapo serving jail time, just not this one.

Methais
01-07-2013, 12:51 AM
Look a fucking robot band.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=3RBSkq-_St8

Jarvan
01-07-2013, 05:12 AM
It's suspended in a solution of the infinite panoply of universes, any given one of which could conceivably contain a version of Senator Crapo serving jail time, just not this one.

lol

Theoretically there is a universe out there where you and me are friends, and the PC community respects me.


Hmm.. I think I just debunked infinite universes theory.

Latrinsorm
01-07-2013, 05:20 PM
Friends are just acquaintances rounded up! It could happen. :D

ClydeR
01-08-2013, 01:11 PM
Crapo got a promotion in Republican Senate leadership. They named him "Chief Deputy Whip."


Washington, D.C. – When the Senate Republican Conference meets later this month, Idaho Senator Mike Crapo is expected to become the Ranking Member of the Senate Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs Committee in the 113th Congress. Crapo, who wrapped up work with Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell on the Senate Republican Committee on Committees, will retain his committee assignments from the last Congress. His seniority means he moves up to the top Republican on the Banking Committee and the third-ranking Republican on the Senate Finance Committee. The assignments become final when approved by the Republican Conference and the full Senate.

Senate Minority Whip Senator John Cornyn (R-Texas) appointed Crapo as Chief Deputy Whip for the 113th Congress, meaning Crapo will head a team of Senators communicating information and strategy to their Republican colleagues.

“I want to thank Senator Crapo for stepping up to help lead our caucus in the 113th Congress as a part of our Whip team,” said Sen. John Cornyn. “With Senator Crapo’s help, Senate Republicans will continue to lead the charge for a conservative agenda that will grow the economy and create jobs while putting our nation on a path towards fiscal prosperity.”

More... (http://magicvalley.com/news/local/crapo-announces-gop-posts-in-th-congress/article_7022126e-59b9-11e2-bc4d-0019bb2963f4.html)

Ardwen
01-08-2013, 01:39 PM
Someone needs to show them how to party too you know