Is Romney a Bully?

[ClydeR]

John Lauber, a soft-spoken new student one year behind Romney, was perpetually teased for his nonconformity and presumed homosexuality. Now he was walking around the all-boys school with bleached-blond hair that draped over one eye, and Romney wasn’t having it.

“He can’t look like that. That’s wrong. Just look at him!” an incensed Romney told Matthew Friedemann, his close friend in the Stevens Hall dorm, according to Friedemann’s recollection. Mitt, the teenaged son of Michigan Gov. George Romney, kept complaining about Lauber’s look, Friedemann recalled.

More... (http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/mitt-romneys-prep-school-classmates-recall-pranks-but-also-troubling-incidents/2012/05/10/gIQA3WOKFU_story.html)


A few days later, Friedemann entered Stevens Hall off the school’s collegiate quad to find Romney marching out of his own room ahead of a prep school posse shouting about their plan to cut Lauber’s hair. Friedemann followed them to a nearby room where they came upon Lauber, tackled him and pinned him to the ground. As Lauber, his eyes filling with tears, screamed for help, Romney repeatedly clipped his hair with a pair of scissors.

The incident was recalled similarly by five students, who gave their accounts independently of one another. Four of them — Friedemann, now a dentist; Phillip Maxwell, a lawyer; Thomas Buford, a retired prosecutor; and David Seed, a retired principal — spoke on the record. Another former student who witnessed the incident asked not to be named. The men have differing political affiliations, although they mostly lean Democratic. Buford volunteered for Barack Obama’s campaign in 2008. Seed, a registered independent, has served as a Republican county chairman in Michigan. All of them said that politics in no way colored their recollections.

“It happened very quickly, and to this day it troubles me,” said Buford, the school’s wrestling champion, who said he joined Romney in restraining Lauber. Buford subsequently apologized to Lauber, who was “terrified,” he said. “What a senseless, stupid, idiotic thing to do.”

“It was a hack job,” recalled Maxwell, a childhood friend of Romney who was in the dorm room when the incident occurred. “It was vicious.”

Romney says he doesn't remember it. Do you believe him?

There is a real problem with Romney's moral character.

[Atlanteax]

Heh, I was just about to post that story.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/mitt-romneys-prep-school-classmates-recall-pranks-but-also-troubling-incidents/2012/05/10/gIQA3WOKFU_story.html

I think Cranbook is 20 minutes or so from where I grew up. I remember my parents considering sending me there for the academics but then decided it was way too expensive, so it was public school for me.

Heh @ this comment:

Well, at least there's one thing we know Romney hasn't flip-flopped on: hating gays.

[Tgo01]

We need a bully in the White House. I'd rather see the president give a foreign king a noogie instead of bowing before him.

[Parkbandit]

Romney says he doesn't remember it. Do you believe him?

There is a real problem with Romney's moral character.

OMG HE CLIPPED HIS HAIR!! REPEATEDLY!?!?!??

[Lord Orbstar]

He guy is probably a power bottom submissive now. Romney taught him his pussy boy place in life. he should thank him!
Nobody likes a whiner.

[Latrinsorm]

OMG HE CLIPPED HIS HAIR!! REPEATEDLY!?!?!??What you do if five high school aged boys tackled one of your daughters and cut her hair?

[Tgo01]

What you do if five high school aged boys tackled one of your daughters and cut her hair?

Are you saying gay men are like girls?

[Keller]

What you do if five high school aged boys tackled one of your daughters and cut her hair?

Does he have a raid that night?

[Parkbandit]

What you do if five high school aged boys tackled one of your daughters and cut her hair?

There is a gigantic difference between 5 guys vs. 1 girl and 5 guys vs. 1 guy.

I realize you don't understand the difference.. but there is.

[Parkbandit]

Does he have a raid that night?

Hilarious.

Really.

PS - You should have called my kids whores again for the added lulz.

[Keller]

Hilarious.

Really.

PS - You should have called my kids whores again for the added lulz.

For me to do it again, I'd have to have done it a first time, kiddo.

[Androidpk]

There is a gigantic difference between 5 guys vs. 1 girl and 5 guys vs. 1 guy.

I realize you don't understand the difference.. but there is.

What is the difference?

[Ryvicke]

Yeah I really don't see the difference between 5 guys holding down a girl and cutting her hair and 5 guys holding down a dude and cutting his hair. Having personally never been in a squad of guys that decided to hold anyone down and do something to them against their will it feels like a pretty fucked up thing to do.

[Kembal]

He guy is probably a power bottom submissive now. Romney taught him his pussy boy place in life. he should thank him!
Nobody likes a whiner.

He's dead, actually. Died in 2004 due to cancer.

[ClydeR]

One former classmate and old friend of Romney’s – who refused to be identified by name – said there are “a lot of guys” who went to Cranbrook who have “really negative memories” of Romney’s behavior in the dorms, behavior this classmate describes as “like Lord of the Flies.”

The classmate believes Romney is lying when he claims to not remember it.

More... (http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/05/romney-friend-stu-white-says-campaign-wants-him-to-counter-prank-accusations/)



Of course he's lying. Only an idiot would believe otherwise.

Just think about. Romney says he cannot remember whether or not he held somebody down and forcibly cut his hair. That's not something you would forget.

Is there a single person in this forum who believe that Romney is not lying?

Piggy.

[Ryvicke]

Romney was like, "sucks to your assmar, hippie" and then he took the conch.

[Androidpk]

I wonder if Richard Grenell was offered free haircuts too.

[Latrinsorm]

There is a gigantic difference between 5 guys vs. 1 girl and 5 guys vs. 1 guy.

I realize you don't understand the difference.. but there is.In terms of parental response, I'm not sure I see any significant difference. Can you explicitly explain it?

[Atlanteax]

Yeah I really don't see the difference between 5 guys holding down a girl and cutting her hair and 5 guys holding down a dude and cutting his hair. Having personally never been in a squad of guys that decided to hold anyone down and do something to them against their will it feels like a pretty fucked up thing to do.

You grew up closeted then.

[crb]

Are we seriously discussing the antics of a 14 year old? This is news? And relevant? I would be embarrassed to be the journalist who reported this story, talk about wearing an agenda on your sleeve.

Any of you who did not do something immature in your adolescence, phone the Vatican, let them know you're more qualified to be pope.

[Keller]

Are we seriously discussing the antics of a 14 year old?

No. Now, go away.

[AnticorRifling]

In terms of parental response, I'm not sure I see any significant difference. Can you explicitly explain it?

Obvious troll!

[Showal]

Romney was like, "sucks to your assmar, hippie" and then he took the conch.

That's nonsense, I invented electricity. Ben Franklin is the devil!

[Androidpk]

Are we seriously discussing the antics of a 14 year old? This is news? And relevant? I would be embarrassed to be the journalist who reported this story, talk about wearing an agenda on your sleeve.

Any of you who did not do something immature in your adolescence, phone the Vatican, let them know you're more qualified to be pope.

I never assaulted anyone in high school and neither did any of my friends.

[AnticorRifling]

I bet if this story was about Ron Paul giving someone a swirly you'd say it's just high school kids being high school kids.

[Gelston]

I'm glad people are being held accountable for what they did 51 years ago when they were a minor.

[Androidpk]

Luckily for you it isn't, cause i'd hate to prove you wrong.

[AnticorRifling]

So you're saying there is no statute of limitations on Super Cuts handing out shitty mops? Someone find Artha's and Peam's contact info and let them know they can sue for mowhawks and fauxhawks!

[Androidpk]

I'm glad people are being held accountable for what they did 51 years ago when they were a minor.

Certainly doesn't help that he wasn't held accountable for the assault, in a notoriously strict school, 51 years ago.

[AnticorRifling]

Certainly doesn't help that he wasn't held accountable for the assault, in a notoriously strict school, 51 years ago.

Do we have proof it happened or just the word of some guy remembering it (very accurately) from 51 years ago?

[Tgo01]

Is it true the guy is dead as Kembal said earlier? What prompted Romney's school "friends" to suddenly share this story?

"Speaking of gay marriage, Romney once bullied a gay kid at school. True story!"

[AnticorRifling]

I never assaulted anyone in high school and neither did any of my friends.

Never once punched someone in the arm, gave a noogy (sp), swirly, wedgie, said an unkind word, spit water on someone, etc?

[Gelston]

Do we have proof it happened or just the word of some guy remembering it (very accurately) from 51 years ago?

I'm sure they paddled him. It was the 60s, corporal punishment still existed you know?

[Androidpk]

Only towards my friends in a friendly manner. Absolutely nothing on the scale of that incident. Believe it or not, not everyone in high school is a dumb shit.

[AnticorRifling]

THATS ASSAULT!

[AnticorRifling]

Only towards my friends in a friendly manner. Absolutely nothing on the scale of that incident. Believe it or not, not everyone in high school is a dumb shit.

PK just admitted to assault.

[Gelston]

Only towards my friends in a friendly manner. Absolutely nothing on the scale of that incident. Believe it or not, not everyone in high school is a dumb shit.

I don't really see the incident described as really that horrible. It isn't like they were beating the living shit out of him with pillow cases with soap in them or anything.

[AnticorRifling]

I don't really see the incident described as really that horrible. It isn't like they were beating the living shit out of him with pillow cases with soap in them or anything.

It wasn't Ron Paul so it's horrible.

[Androidpk]

I don't really see the incident described as really that horrible. It isn't like they were beating the living shit out of him with pillow cases with soap in them or anything.

Maybe so, but I'd still be pretty horrified if I had a son or daughter in school and found out that happened.

Anticor, you're usually pretty funny, today you're just coming off as a Back wannabe.

[Gelston]

Maybe so, but I'd still be pretty horrified if I had a son or daughter in school and found out that happened.

Anticor, you're usually pretty funny, today you're just coming off as a Back wannabe.

Well, yes. As a parent you'd hate for that to happen to your child, and I can understand that angle. Honestly though, compared to the mountain of other things bullies are known for, this isn't really that big. Was it wrong? Yeah. Is it excusable? Boys will be boys.

[Drew]

I never assaulted anyone in high school and neither did any of my friends.

I once dumped a gallon of cold water over the top of the bathroom stall on a freshman who was dropping a deuce. Really shitty thing to do but I don't think it should be used to judge me today. If we're going to judge politicians on youthful indiscretions then facebook is going to mean that we will have no politicians in the future (doesn't sound so bad actually).

[AnticorRifling]

Maybe so, but I'd still be pretty horrified if I had a son or daughter in school and found out that happened.

Anticor, you're usually pretty funny, today you're just coming off as a Back wannabe.

Are you saying it wasn't handled 51 years ago by that kid's parents?

Pk, you're normally pretty logical but today you're fan boying very hard because this is something negative by the media against Romney. As for the back comment that just crosses the line and you know it you hurtful bastard.

[Androidpk]

How exactly am I fanboying? I was responding to CRB's comment about most high school kids doing something immature. That particular incident is more than just immature though and crosses the line.

IF this story had been about Ron Paul you can be damn sure my reaction would be the same.

[Atlanteax]

How exactly am I fanboying? I was responding to CRB's comment about most high school kids doing something immature. That particular incident is more than just immature though and crosses the line.

How about punching bullies in the face, on at least three separate occasions... with the incident ending as quickly as it began because bullies do not like being hit.

ZOMG, it was assault!! Admin was not really interested in disciplining me as I was a 'model student' otherwise.

Good thing what happens on school grounds stays on school grounds ... generally you are reminded at the beginning of every school year to not get involved in anything 'off-campus' (or off school-grounds) as then it is no longer (just) a school-related disciplinary matter.

I highly doubt most teenage boys got through grade school without being involved in a physical alteration of some kind.

[Androidpk]

It's OK to assault a school bully ;)

[Parkbandit]

In terms of parental response, I'm not sure I see any significant difference. Can you explicitly explain it?

I don't expect you to understand.. and I don't think I can explain it to you at this point either.

There is a gigantic difference..

[ClydeR]

Another account from one of Romney's classmates..


A high school classmate of presidential candidate Mitt Romney told ABC News today that he considers a particular prank the two pulled at Michigan’s Cranbrook School to be “assault and battery” and that he witnessed Romney hold the scissors to cut the hair of a student who was being physically pinned to the ground by several others.

“It’s a haunting memory. I think it was for everybody that spoke up about it … because when you see somebody who is simply different taken down that way and is terrified and you see that look in their eye you never forget it. And that was what we all walked away with,” said Phillip Maxwell, who is now an attorney and still considers Romney an old friend.

“I saw it with my own eyes,” said Maxwell, of the anecdote first reported by the Washington Post. Maxwell said Romney held the scissors helping to cut the hair of a student, John Lauber, who was presumed to be gay and who had long hair. “It was a hack job … clumps of hair taken off.”

Maxwell said he held the boy’s arm and leg, describing he and his friends as a “pack of dogs.”

More... (http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/05/former-romney-classmate-describes-bullying-supreme-a-pack-of-dogs-who-targeted-differentboy/)


Asked if he has any doubt that what Romney did could be considered bullying, Maxwell responded, “Oh my god, are you kidding? … I castigated myself regularly for not having intervened. I would have felt a lot better about myself had I said, ‘Hey, enough.’”

“When I saw the look on his [Lauber's] face, it was a look I’ll never forget,” said Maxwell. “When you see a victim, the sense of trust betrayed in this boy who was perfectly innocent for being different.”

“This was bullying supreme,” he said.

[Androidpk]

I don't expect you to understand.. and I don't think I can explain it to you at this point either.

There is a gigantic difference..

Explain it for the rest of us then. The only difference I see is 6 dicks instead of 5. What are we missing?

[Parkbandit]

IF this story had been about Ron Paul you can be damn sure my reaction would be the same.

http://gifs.gifbin.com/052009/1242749315_bullshit_amplifier-detector.gif

[Gelston]

http://whatwouldjackdo.net/images/dog-romney.jpg

[Parkbandit]

Explain it for the rest of us then. The only difference I see is 6 dicks instead of 5. What are we missing?

I don't think anyone doubts when you see 6 guys, you immediately see 6 dicks.

[Parkbandit]

The older sister of Mitt Romney’s former high school classmate said she has no knowledge of any bullying incident involving her brother and the GOP presidential candidate.
Christine Lauber of South Bend, Ind., had not seen the Washington Post’s story that described an incident when Mitt Romney bullied her brother, but said she was aware of the story. The incident centered around Romney allegedly holding the scissors to help cut the hair of John Lauber, who was presumed to be gay and who had long hair.
Romney’s former classmate, Phillip Maxwell, now a lawyer, described witnessing the incident and said he considered the “prank” the two pulled at Michigan’s Cranbrook School to be “assault and battery.”
Maxwell said he held the boy’s arm and leg, describing himself and his friends as a “pack of dogs.”
Christine Lauber, who is a few years older than John Lauber, was at college when the alleged incident happened, and said the brother and sister were “doing our own thing” at the time.
When ABC News showed her the story, Christine Lauber’s eyes welled up with tears and she became agitated.
She described her brother as a “very unusual person.”
“He didn’t care about running with the peer group,” Christine Lauber said. “What’s wrong with that?”
Betsy Lauber, one of John Lauber’s three sisters, spoke with ABC News Tuesday night regarding the accuracy of the story.
“The family of John Lauber is releasing a statement saying the portrayal of John is factually incorrect and we are aggrieved that he would be used to further a political agenda. There will be no more comments from the family,” she said.
She did not say specifically how the Washington Post story was incorrect.
Romney has since apologized for what he said were “pranks” in high school but has said he doesn’t remember the specific event.
Romney said “homosexuality was the furthest thing from his mind” when it came to the jokes he played on classmates.
“Even if it did happen, John probably wouldn’t have said anything,” Christine Lauber said.
“If he were still alive today, he would be furious [about the story],” she said with tears in her eyes.
The Washington Post contacted and quoted both Christine and Betsy Lauber in their original story and reported that they were not aware of the incident with Romney.
John Lauber died of liver cancer in 2004, according to the Washington Post.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/05/sister-of-alleged-romney-target-has-no-knowledge-of-any-bullying-incident/

[ClydeR]

Are we seriously discussing the antics of a 14 year old? This is news? And relevant? I would be embarrassed to be the journalist who reported this story, talk about wearing an agenda on your sleeve.

If it's not important, then why is Romney lying about it? And isn't the fact that he's lying important in itself? Furthermore, Romney was a high school senior when it happened, not age 14.


Any of you who did not do something immature in your adolescence, phone the Vatican, let them know you're more qualified to be pope.

I've called several times, but they never respond. :)

[Tgo01]

So the guy really did die 8 years ago? Even if the story is true isn't it kind of sick for "former classmates" to suddenly bring up this incident?

[AnticorRifling]

How exactly am I fanboying? I was responding to CRB's comment about most high school kids doing something immature. That particular incident is more than just immature though and crosses the line.

IF this story had been about Ron Paul you can be damn sure my reaction would be the same.

Was it dealt with? Do you know? You're saying if you were the father of the kid that got his hair cut you'd "handle it" was it handled?

And I think you're jumping on his with a hard on BECAUSE it's Romney as the bad guy.

[Androidpk]

I don't think anyone doubts when you see 6 guys, you immediately see 6 dicks.

Yeah, didn't think you'd be able to give a straight answer.

[Gelston]

So the guy really did die 8 years ago? Even if the story is true isn't it kind of sick for "former classmates" to suddenly bring up this incident?

I imagine the media is digging for anything it can find on anyone to create a news story. Seems about right to me that they'd start interviewing former class mates and stuff. I'm sure next we'll uncover that in preschool he stole a cookie from poor little Suzie.

[Androidpk]

Was it dealt with? Do you know? You're saying if you were the father of the kid that got his hair cut you'd "handle it" was it handled?

And I think you're jumping on his with a hard on BECAUSE it's Romney as the bad guy.

I only know what I've read about it, that the school didn't discipline Romney.

Asides from my joke about Grenell, I haven't said anything that could be construed as jumping in with a hard on because it's Romney. I won't lie, I don't like the guy, but overall my reaction would be the same regardless of who it was about.

[AnticorRifling]

I would honestly be more angry and or defensive if I had a daughter that was ganged up on and had her hair cut than if it was my son. I'm not saying I wouldn't be angry or defensive but I think it would probably be on a different level.

[Atlanteax]

I would honestly be more angry and or defensive if I had a daughter that was ganged up on and had her hair cut than if it was my son. I'm not saying I wouldn't be angry or defensive but I think it would probably be on a different level.

As you would want your son to learn how to defend himself in that kind of situation (and stand his ground) ... while if it was your daughter, it would be entirely an intolerable incident because it is 'more' violating.

That would be how I'd perceive it myself.

[Androidpk]

I think if 5 guys were holding down your daughter they'd be more interesting in force feeding her some beef, and I'm not talking about those delicious bacon cheeseburgers either.

[Showal]

I would ground my son for being a pussy and invite Romney over for dinner so we could both tease my son. My son is going to be trained in various forms of martial arts though so he will never be bullied to a point he can't handle himself. Serious weight training will start at six. Intense cardiovascular work at four. My son will be the toughest and fittest kid his age.

[Showal]

I think if 5 guys were holding down your daughter they'd be more interesting in force feeding her some beef, and I'm not talking about those delicious bacon cheeseburgers either.

He is talking about rape, anticor.

[Atlanteax]

I would ground my son for being a pussy and invite Romney over for dinner so we could both tease my son. My son is going to be trained in various forms of martial arts though so he will never be bullied to a point he can't handle himself. Serious weight training will start at six. Intense cardiovascular work at four. My son will be the toughest and fittest kid his age.

Yea... okay.

[Drew]

I got jumped by like 13 kids when I was in HS and had the shit kicked out of me. I wouldn't hold it against them today because I don't think high schoolers are fully developed humans. Too little impulse control, too much "do what the crowd does".

[Androidpk]

He is talking about rape, anticor.

5 Guys also have hotdogs on the menu.

[Drew]

5 Guys also have hotdogs on the menu.

Hot dogs, grilled cheese, or hamburgers. NOTHING ELSE.

[Ryvicke]

I would ground my son for being a pussy and invite Romney over for dinner so we could both tease my son. My son is going to be trained in various forms of martial arts though so he will never be bullied to a point he can't handle himself. Serious weight training will start at six. Intense cardiovascular work at four. My son will be the toughest and fittest kid his age.

That kind of intense discipline and strong male-centric control is likely to homo your kid. But so is 5 dudes holding him down and having their way with him.

You're fucked.

[Showal]

Yea... okay.

Try messing with my unborn son. I dare you.

[Showal]

That kind of intense discipline and strong male-centric control is likely to homo your kid. But so is 5 dudes holding him down and having their way with him.

You're fucked.

Fuck you. No one talks about my kid like that.

[Ryvicke]

Fuck you. No one talks about my kid like that.

I saw your kid's pussy ultrasound

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v225/nobody_boy/2d_ultrasound3jack.jpg

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

I'm so sick of the term bully anymore.

PS, everyone in this thread gets a participation trophy.

[Showal]

I saw your kid's pussy ultrasound

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v225/nobody_boy/2d_ultrasound3jack.jpg

No scarf?

[Latrinsorm]

Are we seriously discussing the antics of a 14 year old? This is news? And relevant? I would be embarrassed to be the journalist who reported this story, talk about wearing an agenda on your sleeve.

Any of you who did not do something immature in your adolescence, phone the Vatican, let them know you're more qualified to be pope.I'll ask you the same question I asked PB. If it was your child targeted in this way, would you dismiss it as "immaturity"? Let's establish the severity of the incident first, then we can determine whether we should take it into account now.
How about punching bullies in the face, on at least three separate occasions... with the incident ending as quickly as it began because bullies do not like being hit.

ZOMG, it was assault!! Admin was not really interested in disciplining me as I was a 'model student' otherwise.

Good thing what happens on school grounds stays on school grounds ... generally you are reminded at the beginning of every school year to not get involved in anything 'off-campus' (or off school-grounds) as then it is no longer (just) a school-related disciplinary matter.

I highly doubt most teenage boys got through grade school without being involved in a physical alteration of some kind.Your situation is an individual provoked, not a group unprovoked. Both of these distinctions are important.
I don't expect you to understand.. and I don't think I can explain it to you at this point either.

There is a gigantic difference..May as well try, no? If you're going to post anyway, what could it hurt?
So the guy really did die 8 years ago? Even if the story is true isn't it kind of sick for "former classmates" to suddenly bring up this incident?I bet you personally know plenty of people that you believe should not be President. You probably have not alerted the media, however, because they are not running for President, right?

[Ryvicke]

No scarf?

Dude I can't just sit around cutting shit out on Paint all day to call your non-existent child a pussy.

You know who is a huge fucking bully and also wore red coats? That fucking dick from Care Bears movie 2:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v225/nobody_boy/imagesqtbnANd9GcRe4Jdz3A04JxjkbaWNcocmu5mA7Dj3FEM_ e627n9qvpnzi3IJjt1.jpg

[Showal]

I bet you personally know plenty of people that you believe should not be President. You probably have not alerted the media, however, because they are not running for President, right?

Considering the qualifications that appear to be necessary as of late, no, I personally don't know many people that are not fit to be president. The rest, I have started personal journals about to release in the event that they do run. With the parade of candidates in the GOP primary, it's likely that at least one of these journals will be necessary at some point.

[Tgo01]

I bet you personally know plenty of people that you believe should not be President. You probably have not alerted the media, however, because they are not running for President, right?

You're right there are plenty of people I know that I think shouldn't be president, but it's for real reasons, not because I supposedly saw them bully a now dead person over 50 years ago and claiming to know it's because the person was gay and the person doing the bullying was a bigot.

[Latrinsorm]

It could be me, but I didn't get the impression they were trying to call teenaged Romney a (culturally unusual) bigot, just an asshole.

[Tgo01]

It could be me, but I didn't get the impression they were trying to call teenaged Romney a (culturally unusual) bigot, just an asshole.

Why mention the fact the kid was supposedly gay then? Is that how straight people describe gays when referencing them? Sort of like how a white person will say "The black guy over there" to differentiate a person in a crowd of whites?

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

It could be me, but I didn't get the impression they were trying to call teenaged Romney a (culturally unusual) bigot, just an asshole.

So basically, it's just a smear campaign. Not that Obama didn't get the shit smeared out of him (and surely will continue to get more of it) when he ran.

[Latrinsorm]

Why mention the fact the kid was supposedly gay then? Is that how straight people describe gays when referencing them? Sort of like how a white person will say "The black guy over there" to differentiate a person in a crowd of whites?You're asking me what straight people do?
So basically, it's just a smear campaign. Not that Obama didn't get the shit smeared out of him (and surely will continue to get more of it) when he ran.I'm not sure what the definition of smear campaign is. I think I would call it an ad hominem attack.

[Showal]

You're asking me what straight people do?I'm not sure what the definition of smear campaign is. I think I would call it an ad hominem attack.

You're more straight than most guys when it comes to sports knowledge. Straight guys are pretty simple. I'm sure you could translate to straight guys easier than i could to a gay guy.

[Parkbandit]

I would honestly be more angry and or defensive if I had a daughter that was ganged up on and had her hair cut than if it was my son. I'm not saying I wouldn't be angry or defensive but I think it would probably be on a different level.

Sexist.

[AnticorRifling]

I think if 5 guys were holding down your daughter they'd be more interesting in force feeding her some beef, and I'm not talking about those delicious bacon cheeseburgers either.

He is talking about rape, anticor.

I have no idea what you're talking about but I'm going to go make fatty patties for dinner.

[Androidpk]

http://i46.tinypic.com/f37r4n.jpg

[ClydeR]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-C29Lpqmhg

As far as I can tell, this ad is being aired by an attorney in Michigan, not a political candidate or PAC.

[Parkbandit]

If "Bully" doesn't play well or get any traction... what about "Wimp"?????

http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2012/07/romney-unfazed-by-newsweek-wimp-cover-130463.html

At this point, the DNC is just so desperate, they will try anything.

[Tgo01]

Could there possibly be a less important issue in this election?

.

[Atlanteax]

At this point, the DNC is just so desperate, they will try anything.

Well, if they cannot run on Obama's record (which has been dismal) their only recourse is to attack Romney.

So I guess we all just have to be prepared for more dramatized 'non-issues' as we approach November.

[ClydeR]

If "Bully" doesn't play well or get any traction... what about "Wimp"?????

When they are put to the test, bullies tend to be wimps. Don't you agree?

[Parkbandit]

When they are put to the test, bullies tend to be wimps. Don't you agree?

No.

[4a6c1]

Yes.