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ClydeR
12-06-2011, 11:44 AM
Johnny Depp has come under fire from religious activists for a new Christmas-themed track they've branded "filth".

The Pirates of the Caribbean star teamed up with British rockers Babybird to record The Jesus Stag Night Club, which tells a story of a boozing Christ-like figure in a strip club.

But the track has caused uproar amongst religious groups including the Focus on Family campaign.

"We are sickened by Mr Depp's behaviour. Why did he need to record this song? It is a slap in the face to Christians all over the world," a spokesperson says.

More... (http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/music/depp-under-fire-over-christmas-song-20111205-1oe8g.html)

This is a symptom of what's wrong with Hollywood. The right to free speech doesn't mean the right to say offensive things about the religion on which the country was founded. A few years ago, politicians were planning to outlaw offensive songs, but they seem to have lost their will. I can only hope that this issue comes up in the Republican primary so we can find out which candidates have a backbone.

If you really want to hear it, you can listen to it here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5fft16vefE).

JHarris
12-06-2011, 11:55 AM
The right to free speech doesn't mean the right to say offensive things about the religion on which the country was founded.

Actually, this is exactly what the right to free speech means.

Another underlying tenet of this country is the freedom of religion (same amendment). If someone isn't Christian and wants to bad mouth Christianity, they are allowed in the same way people are allowed to badmouth Islam, Judaism, and even His Holiness the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

Trying to use your values to limit other people's freedoms that are clearly outlined and protected in the Bill of Rights is pretty un-American, my friend, and goes against what this country was ACTUALLY founded on.

BriarFox
12-06-2011, 12:01 PM
The comparison of religion to soft prostitution in the song is entertaining. In the former, you give money for assurances about your self-image, place in the world and so forth, and in the latter, you give money for assurances about your self-image, place in the world, and so forth. The song implies that both are equally seedy pleasures.

Buckwheet
12-06-2011, 12:28 PM
Not because of the content, but I thought the song sucked.

Blazar
12-06-2011, 01:01 PM
Clyder,

I seriously hope your statement regarding Freedom Of Speech was a troll post. If it's not, and you seriously think that what you believe in should be immune to criticism but others beliefs are open game, well, then you sir are a gigantic fucking tool. That is all.

Stabbyrogue
12-06-2011, 01:06 PM
Clyder,

I seriously hope your statement regarding Freedom Of Speech was a troll post. If it's not, and you seriously think that what you believe in should be immune to criticism but others beliefs are open game, well, then you sir are a gigantic fucking tool. That is all.

Welcome to the politics folder. Meet ClydeR.

Mathari
12-06-2011, 01:07 PM
Welcome to the politics folder. Meet ClydeR.
He's (ClydeR's) still got it!

Chastittee
12-06-2011, 01:26 PM
JHarris, I don't know you, but I like you. Well said, sir. Well said.

Hulkein
12-06-2011, 01:30 PM
People are still fooled by ClydeR? Obvious troll is obvious. Come on newbs!

diethx
12-06-2011, 01:54 PM
People are still fooled by ClydeR? Obvious troll is obvious. Come on newbs!

Even seasoned posters still post in his threads to refute his trolling. And they KNOW he's a troll.

Hulkein
12-06-2011, 02:05 PM
True. He is quite the enigma.

Ardwen
12-06-2011, 02:18 PM
when the board is slow sometimes you just have to respond to something to quell the boredom

Gelston
12-06-2011, 02:56 PM
I personally believe we should have no speech. Tongue removal at birth.

Buckwheet
12-06-2011, 03:02 PM
I personally believe we should have no speech. Tongue removal at birth.

This would also help the Obesity epidemic. I vote for this as well.

ClydeR
12-06-2011, 10:57 PM
Trying to use your values to limit other people's freedoms that are clearly outlined and protected in the Bill of Rights is pretty un-American, my friend, and goes against what this country was ACTUALLY founded on.

Nice try.

While reading JHarris' response, I had an epiphany in the realization that Certain People have no understanding of our country's laws and history. For your information, the founding fathers were Christians, and they were referring to freedom of religion for Christians when they wrote that.

JHarris
12-06-2011, 11:19 PM
The founding fathers were also all white, land-owning men. Does that mean the law only protects them?

Let's remember that the Supreme Court is what decides how the Constitution is interpreted. Since the current precedent is to recognize all religions equally in this country, it is irrelevant what you think the history of it is.

Tgo01
12-06-2011, 11:29 PM
The founding fathers were also all white, land-owning men. Does that mean the law only protects them?

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Eoghain
12-07-2011, 05:09 AM
I thought the founding fathers were deists who thought that God was a clockmaker who created everything and set it in motion, and then withdrew to work on bigger and better things. The end.

I'm pretty sure this country was settled by people attempting to escape from others telling them how to believe and practice religion. They were called puritans, and they turned into a more monstrous version of what they were fleeing from, and it's THEIR FAULT THAT ALEXANDER SKARSGARD CAN'T GET NAKED ON BROADCAST TELEVISION. CHRISTIANS RUIN EVERYTHING BEAUTIFUL.

Some of them make great furniture though.

~Rocktar~
12-07-2011, 08:09 AM
when the board is slow sometimes you just have to respond to something to quell the boredom

^^ This.

~Rocktar~
12-07-2011, 08:12 AM
This would also help the Obesity epidemic. I vote for this as well.

Nah, I knew a woman that got a gastric bypass, no lie, she was like nearly 400 pounds and barely 5 feet tall. She still managed to gain weight by eating fast food and milkshakes 6 ounces at a time, every hour on the hour nearly. People are clever in finding ways to get their sugar, fat and salt. I bet it would be good for blender and straw sales though.

Asha
12-07-2011, 09:24 AM
Not because of the content, but I thought the song sucked.

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ClydeR
12-07-2011, 12:13 PM
The founding fathers were also all white, land-owning men. Does that mean the law only protects them?

No, we amended the Constitution in the 1860s to address that.


Let's remember that the Supreme Court is what decides how the Constitution is interpreted. Since the current precedent is to recognize all religions equally in this country, it is irrelevant what you think the history of it is.

I have no doubt that's what they teach you in the liberal northern schools. But let's look at the real history.


As Joseph Story, a long-serving Chief Justice of the United States Supreme Court said:

“Probably at the time of the adoption of the constitution, and of the amendment to it, now under consideration, the general, if not the universal, sentiment in America was, that Christianity ought to receive encouragement from the state, so far as was not incompatible with the private rights of conscience, and the freedom of religious worship. An attempt to level all religions, and to make it a matter of state policy to hold all in utter indifference, would have created universal disapprobation, if not universal indignation...

“The real object of the amendment was, not to countenance, much less to advance Mahometanism, or Judaism, or infidelity, by prostrating Christianity; but to exclude all rivalry among Christian sects, and to prevent any national ecclesiastical establishment, which should give to an hierarchy the exclusive patronage of the national government.”

Story, writing as a constitutional historian, is quite clear. The purpose of the First Amendment was not “to advance Mohametanism” but to “exclude all rivalry among Christian sects.”

More... (http://www.afa.net/Blogs/BlogPost.aspx?id=2147504696)

diethx
12-07-2011, 12:26 PM
They were called puritans, and they turned into a more monstrous version of what they were fleeing from, and it's THEIR FAULT THAT ALEXANDER SKARSGARD CAN'T GET NAKED ON BROADCAST TELEVISION. CHRISTIANS RUIN EVERYTHING BEAUTIFUL.

And suddenly, I hate religion more than I ever have before.

HermieTheDentist
12-07-2011, 01:07 PM
And suddenly, I hate religion more than I ever have before.

Religion is by and large detestable. More often than not it was religion that drove christianity into sects to start with.

I want to point something out though. Just because a state or nation declares itself to take no part in religious systems doesn't mean they're exempt from the influence of the believers who base their lives on them.

The STRENGTH of christianity is not found in religion but in the person in whom they believe. The Triune God of Scripture is best summed up in this quote:


He was the meekest and lowliest of all the sons of men, yet he spoke of coming on the clouds of heaven with the glory of God. He was so austere that evil spirits and demons cried out in terror at his coming, yet he was so genial and winsome and approachable that the children loved to play with him, and the little ones nestled in his arms. His presence at the innocent gaiety of a village wedding was like the presence of sunshine.

No one was half so compassionate to sinners, yet no one ever spoke such red hot scorching words about sin. A bruised reed he would not break, his whole life was love, yet on one occasion he demanded of the Pharisees how they ever expected to escape the damnation of hell. He was a dreamer of dreams and a seer of visions, yet for sheer stark realism He has all of our stark realists soundly beaten. He was a servant of all, washing the disciples feet, yet masterfully He strode into the temple, and the hucksters and moneychangers fell over one another to get away from the mad rush and the fire they saw blazing in His eyes.

He saved others, yet at the last Himself He did not save. There is nothing in history like the union of contrasts which confronts us in the gospels. The mystery of Jesus is the mystery of divine personality.

– James Stewart, Scottish theologian

Christians believe in personal and public righteoussness. There are as many good examples as there are bad. If you're going to come to terms with Christianity you have to come to terms with the person and nature of Christ. Not religion.

~Rocktar~
12-07-2011, 01:43 PM
Religion is by and large detestable. More often than not it was religion that drove christianity into sects to start with.

I want to point something out though. Just because a state or nation declares itself to take no part in religious systems doesn't mean they're exempt from the influence of the believers who base their lives on them.

The STRENGTH of christianity is not found in religion but in the person in whom they believe. The Triune God of Scripture is best summed up in this quote:



Christians believe in personal and public righteoussness. There are as many good examples as there are bad. If you're going to come to terms with Christianity you have to come to terms with the person and nature of Christ. Not religion.

Or simply acknowledge it as just another Middle Eastern death cult stirring up shit since the VAST majority of it's followers are clueless and make absolutely NO attempt to actually live by the ideals of loving others (all others no matter what) and yourself as you would love the Divine.

diethx
12-07-2011, 01:54 PM
Whoa I actually agreed with a Rocktar post.

Does this mean I finally get my own hypno-lactating slut beast?! SQUEEEEEE

Latrinsorm
12-07-2011, 02:27 PM
His presence at the innocent gaiety of a village wedding was like the presence of sunshine.I told you guys Jesus supported gay marriage. You can't disagree with Jimmy Stewart, he's got like a 9 foot wingspan.

leifastagsweed
12-07-2011, 05:17 PM
I'm pretty sure this country was settled by people attempting to escape from others telling them how to believe and practice religion. They were called puritans, and they turned into a more monstrous version of what they were fleeing from, and it's THEIR FAULT THAT ALEXANDER SKARSGARD CAN'T GET NAKED ON BROADCAST TELEVISION. CHRISTIANS RUIN EVERYTHING BEAUTIFUL.

Some of them make great furniture though.

^This x 1000!

Tsa`ah
12-08-2011, 03:29 AM
Religion is by and large detestable. ....

You put too much stock in a piece of lumber and not enough stock into the people that use said lumber to bludgeon other people.

Eoghain
12-08-2011, 12:25 PM
You put too much stock in a piece of lumber and not enough stock into the people that use said lumber to bludgeon other people.

QUAKERS MAKE GOOD FURNITURE. They don't bludgeon people with it! They do beat their kids though. Excessively. And they can get a DUI in a horse-drawn carriage. I've seen it :D

4a6c1
12-08-2011, 12:37 PM
Way to ruin a Christians day: Ask them to explain revelations.

http://endtimesnourishment.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/beasts.jpg