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ClydeR
10-04-2011, 11:07 AM
Marco Rubio needs to get control of this story, and he needs to do it quickly.


Three top Florida Hispanic Republicans are calling on the national GOP and their party's presidential candidates to boycott a proposed Univision debate amid allegations that the Spanish-language television network tried to "extort" Sen. Marco Rubio.

In a letter Monday to the Republican National Committee, U.S. Rep. David Rivera and state Reps. Carlos Lopez-Cantera and Erik Fresen also demanded that Univision apologize and fire its news president, Isaac Lee.

The controversy revolves around a Miami Herald story on Sunday in which staffers from Rubio's office and the network said that Lee offered to soften or kill a story about a decades-old drug bust of Rubio's brother-in-law if the Republican senator sat down for an interview — where he'd likely be asked to defend his conservative position on immigration.

Lee and Univision officials, who could not be immediately reached to respond to Monday's letter, last week denied the reports about a quid-pro-quo offer to Rubio.

But the Miami lawmakers don't believe it. They said that the 24-year-old story about Rubio's relative ran only when after the senator rebuffed Univision.

More... (http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/stateroundup/republicans-want-presidential-candidates-to-boycott-tv-station-they-say/1195082)


The hoopla is firmly rooted in the issue of immigration.

Cuban Americans, who have special immigration rights, tend to be more conservative than other Hispanics and therefore less inclined to favor more liberal policies, such as those espoused by the likes of Univision personality Jorge Ramos.

Ramos, who hosted a 2008 presidential debate for Univision, has advocated for the so-called "DREAM Act" and hosts the show Al Punto, To the Point. Rubio has called the proposed act "amnesty" and had refused to appear on Al Punto for months. Al Punto is one of the top-rated shows for Univision, a power-house network that reaches nearly every Hispanic household in a nation that's growing more Hispanic by the day.


"Univision did not offer to soften or spike a story about a major drug bust involving Senator Rubio's relatives," Lee said in a written statement furnished to The Herald. "We would not make such an offer to any other subject of a news story and did not offer it in this case. We had various participants on the call with Senator Rubio's office for the off-the-record discussion about the story, including two of our top internal legal counsels."

Is this call for boycott really coming from Rubio through his emissaries? If Rubio is going to be the VP, he has to learn to pick his fights.

And what's this business about special immigration rights? I don't like special rights.

Did you know that Walt Disney's last act in this life was to scribble Kurt Russell's name on a piece of paper?

ClydeR
10-05-2011, 11:50 AM
Faster than Speedy Gonzales, the Republicans pulled out of the Univision debate.


Mitt Romney, Herman Cain, Rick Perry, Jon Huntsman and Michele Bachmann all issued statements Tuesday saying Univision needs to make amends before they would appear at the debate, tentatively scheduled for two days before Florida's Jan. 31 primary.

The five made separate announcements at the behest of three Florida Hispanic Republican lawmakers who noted that Rubio's office and Univision insiders said the network publicized an embarrassing story about the senator's brother-in-law because Rubio wouldn't sit down for an interview on the show Al Punto, which has espoused a liberal line on immigration.

Univision has called the allegations of a quid pro quo "absurd," and said the July story of the 24-year-old drug bust was reported fairly and accurately.

More... (http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/stateroundup/4-republican-presidential-hopefuls-boycott-univision-debate-over-rubio/1195225)

Tgo01
10-05-2011, 12:48 PM
Don't mind me Clyder, I'm just watching you have a conversation with yourself.

Parkbandit
10-05-2011, 01:03 PM
Don't mind me Clyder, I'm just watching you have a conversation with yourself.

It's more entertaining when he brings in his main account and disagrees with his other account.

Gan
10-05-2011, 01:13 PM
He should have chosen the moniker Sybil instead of ClydeR.

ClydeR
10-05-2011, 01:27 PM
It's more entertaining when he brings in his main account and disagrees with his other account.

I'd be curious to know what other account you're talking about. I can't think of anybody in this forum who comes even close to my level of rightness. Who is it?

Parkbandit
10-05-2011, 01:28 PM
I'd be curious to know what other account you're talking about. I can't think of anybody in this forum who comes even close to my level of rightness. Who is it?

You seriously want me to out you?

Tgo01
10-05-2011, 01:31 PM
You seriously want me to out you?

Please tell me it's Anticor? Oh and also that Anticor is Rocktar and Rob.

Parkbandit
10-05-2011, 01:34 PM
Please tell me it's Anticor? Oh and also that Anticor is Rocktar and Rob.

It's not. No, and no.

Archigeek
10-05-2011, 01:42 PM
Having dealt with Cuban American politicians, I would not be the least surprised if this is much ado about nothing. They get pretty hot under the collar about seemingly trivial things, let alone relatives busted for drugs. Also, South Florida is ripe with corruption.

I will say that it was amusing to observe how things got done down there. All we had to do was donate to the right charity, and then the right guy showed up at our hearing and didn't say a word, and the change in end results was like night and day.

Hulkein
10-05-2011, 01:51 PM
Out him PB, DO IT.

ClydeR
10-05-2011, 01:55 PM
It's more entertaining when he brings in his main account and disagrees with his other account.


You seriously want me to out you?

Go ahead, make my day, as Dirty Harry said.

Parkbandit
10-05-2011, 01:57 PM
Go ahead, make my day, as Dirty Harry said.

Kranar.

Firestorm Killa
10-05-2011, 02:13 PM
Kranar.

LMMFAO!

It all makes sense now.

Hulkein
10-05-2011, 02:19 PM
That's hilarious. I could see it.

ClydeR
10-05-2011, 03:27 PM
Kranar.

Well, he's almost smart enough to be me. But no. I have no affiliation with Kranar.

Parkbandit
10-05-2011, 04:03 PM
Well, he's almost smart enough to be me. But no. I have no affiliation with Kranar.

I would expect no other type of response from you.

Sorry I outted you, but you did ask me to.

Hulkein
10-05-2011, 04:09 PM
Sup Kranar???

TheEschaton
10-05-2011, 04:15 PM
If it was Kranar, that would be fucking brilliant. He definitely doesn't post as much as he did in the early days, but you always know he's around because he occasionally pops up, especially on the heavily anti-Muslim stuff.

Tgo01
10-05-2011, 05:23 PM
Wasn't it Anticor who started the rumor that Penis Pond guy was Clyder? It would make sense he really knows Clyder is Kranar and was trying to throw everyone off.

Either way I'm going to pretend you're Kranar from now on Clyder.

TheEschaton
10-05-2011, 05:34 PM
Are you talking about a CONSPIRACY?!?!?!!111one!!!1

Tgo01
10-05-2011, 05:37 PM
Well yesterday we've established that Anticor is a horrible moderator, now he's covering up trolling alts. Next thing you know he'll get caught with his penis in another woman and he'll have to be removed from office.

Parkbandit
10-05-2011, 05:40 PM
Well yesterday we've established that Anticor is a horrible moderator, now he's covering up trolling alts. Next thing you know he'll get caught with his penis in another man and he'll have to be removed from office.

FTFY

Latrinsorm
10-05-2011, 05:58 PM
Wasn't it Anticor who started the rumor that Penis Pond guy was Clyder? It would make sense he really knows Clyder is Kranar and was trying to throw everyone off.

Either way I'm going to pretend you're Kranar from now on Clyder.It's been bandied about for years that Tabor was ClydeR. His sullying by the Messrs. Weiner was on an unrelated matter.

Keller
10-07-2011, 02:16 PM
I still think it's Tea & Strumpets.

Parkbandit
10-07-2011, 03:46 PM
I still think it's Tea & Strumpets.

He doesn't fit the profile. Not even close.

Cephalopod
10-07-2011, 04:37 PM
He doesn't fit the profile. Not even close.

How much did he pay you to say that?

My guess has always been Clove or T&S.

Asha
11-13-2011, 06:06 PM
ClydeR is Kranar. If it was any other poster AR would have check for identical IPs and either banned them or outed them. But since it's Kranar he's probably unable to confirm or deny it since he doesn't want to piss off his forum administrator or he'd have to lie, which I'm pretty sure isn't his MO.

Asha
11-13-2011, 06:09 PM
Angela Lansbury'ing that shit.

Latrinsorm
11-13-2011, 06:20 PM
However, the only times I can remember Anticor('s dogs) outing an alt involved people trying to circumvent a ban, which doesn't apply here.

YOUR MOVE, DR. WATSON.

Asha
11-13-2011, 06:42 PM
ERIC!! :(

Latrinsorm
11-14-2011, 12:15 AM
Stiff upper lip and all that, gov.