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Parkbandit
10-03-2011, 02:21 PM
(Reuters) - Shares of American Airlines parent AMR Corp (AMR.N) fell more than 18 percent on Monday as analysts debated the prospects for a bankruptcy filing for the third- largest U.S. airline, which lags its industry peers.

Airline stocks were down broadly on concerns that a weak economy will drain travel demand and hit fares this autumn.

But American, seen financially as the weakest major carrier, saw the worst share losses on a percentage basis. The stock was down 15.9 percent, or 47 cents, at $2.49 on the New York Stock Exchange.

"When can they stop the bleeding of cash?" asked Basili Alukos, an equity analyst at Morningstar. The carrier had a second-quarter net loss of $286 million, while rivals showed profits.

"If it appears we're coming into somewhat of a rough patch or slowdown, how is that going to fare for them?" Alukos said. "I don't think very well, because they were unable to generate a profit kind of in the best of times for the airlines last year."

Ray Neidl, a senior aerospace sector analyst with Maxim Group, said in a recent research note that: "Some believe that a prepackaged bankruptcy filing would be the best thing for AMR and the industry."

An AMR spokesman did not immediately respond to a request for a comment on the bankruptcy talk.

American is the only major carrier that did not restructure in Chapter 11 during the recent industry downturn. As a result the airline has operating costs -- including labor -- that are higher than competitors.

Meanwhile, experts warn that an economic downturn could hit travel demand just as airlines are beginning to recover.

The International Air Transport Association on Monday said airline traffic slowed in August compared with July, with the total passenger market down 1.6 percent.

Shares of United Continental Holdings (UAL.N) were down 9 percent at $17.64 on the New York Stock Exchange. Delta Air Lines' (DAL.N) shares fell 7 percent to $6.99 on the NYSE.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/10/03/us-amr-shares-idUSTRE79249920111003

To be renamed "American Government Airlines"? There are more 80,000 jobs on the line here.. with most of them union jobs.

I smell a possible bailout.

Xaerve
10-03-2011, 03:07 PM
FF = one of the first unsecured liabilities to go.

Booking tickets now. :)

Atlanteax
10-03-2011, 03:28 PM
Clearly 9/11 was contrived by the other airlines (United took one for the team) to eliminate American Airlines as a competitor (it was never able to recover).

AnticorRifling
10-03-2011, 03:50 PM
American Airlines shares tumble 18 percent on outlook

That's what they get for not using Lotus Notes.

Gan
10-03-2011, 04:04 PM
Lotus is still around?

AnticorRifling
10-03-2011, 04:22 PM
Lotus is still around?

Indeed.

Now their office suite is dead as hell but Domino servers and Notes clients are still alive and kicking (although I'm not sure why).

Parkbandit
10-03-2011, 04:57 PM
I remember Lotus 1-2-3. Holy shit Anticor.. you are fucking OLD.

Gan
10-03-2011, 05:01 PM
Damn. The first spreadsheets I learned to work with on a computer was with Lotus 123.

I thought Lotus went away with the likes of Word Perfect.

Parkbandit
10-03-2011, 05:04 PM
Damn. The first spreadsheets I learned to work with on a computer was with Lotus 123.

I thought Lotus went away with the likes of Word Perfect.

Word Perfect is still around too...... so you are right. :P

http://apps.corel.com/lp/wpo/

Alrisaren
10-03-2011, 06:42 PM
This is totally anecdotal, but flying on American is a nightmare. Flights delayed and canceled for no reason. The only airline I've noticed that has "rebooking kiosks" scattered throughout their terminals, so I gather it must happen a lot.

Gan
10-03-2011, 10:57 PM
Word Perfect is still around too...... so you are right. :P

http://apps.corel.com/lp/wpo/

No doubt used by dinosaurs like you who refuse to adapt.

Who the fuck still uses WP in this day and age?

So I'll throw an earlier word processor out there that I had to use once up on a time... WordStar.

Parkbandit
10-03-2011, 11:00 PM
No doubt used by dinosaurs like you who refuse to adapt.


How dare you...



Who the fuck still uses WP in this day and age?


Probably hippies who proclaim companies like Microsoft "EVIL"

Gan
10-04-2011, 07:56 AM
Yea, I forgot about the Apple crowd.

"Its a conspiracy man!"

CrystalTears
10-04-2011, 10:08 AM
Yea, I forgot about the Apple crowd.

"Its a conspiracy man!"
They have the Office suite too. :)

EasternBrand
10-05-2011, 12:11 AM
Many of the federal courts still use WordPerfect. Justice, one incompatible file at a time.

Firestorm Killa
10-05-2011, 02:49 PM
I am sure alot of it has to do with the TSA's policy's. Who really wants to fly the molesting skies?