Flip that sorcerer!

[soybean]

X-posted from the officials.

Just came back from a long break, and I think my sorcerer definitely needs some tweaking.

I have an active Fixskills, so any and all of this can be changed. My skills current skills are:

XXX (at level 40), your current skill bonuses and ranks (including all modifiers) are:
Skill Name | Current Current
| Bonus Ranks
Armor Use..........................| 40 8
Multi Opponent Combat..............| 10 2
Physical Fitness...................| 124 32
Arcane Symbols.....................| 143 43
Magic Item Use.....................| 143 43
Spell Aiming.......................| 149 49
Harness Power......................| 148 48
Elemental Mana Control.............| 144 44
Spirit Mana Control................| 144 44
Elemental Lore - Air...............| 54 11
Elemental Lore - Earth.............| 50 10
Elemental Lore - Fire..............| 50 10
Elemental Lore - Water.............| 50 10
Spiritual Lore - Blessings.........| 70 15
Spiritual Lore - Summoning.........| 111 27
Sorcerous Lore - Demonology........| 99 23
Sorcerous Lore - Necromancy........| 90 20
Perception.........................| 50 10
Climbing...........................| 66 14
Swimming...........................| 62 13
First Aid..........................| 70 15

Spell Lists
Minor Elemental....................| 23

Spell Lists
Minor Spirit.......................| 21

Spell Lists
Sorcerer...........................| 40


Name: XXX Race: Dark Elf Profession: Sorcerer (not shown)
Gender: Female Age: 45 Expr: 1732810 Level: 40
Normal (Bonus) ... Enhanced (Bonus)
Strength (STR): 94 (22) ... 94 (22)
Constitution (CON): 50 (-5) ... 50 (-5)
Dexterity (DEX): 60 (15) ... 60 (15)
Agility (AGI): 83 (21) ... 83 (21)
Discipline (DIS): 100 (15) ... 100 (15)
Aura (AUR): 100 (35) ... 100 (35)
Logic (LOG): 78 (14) ... 78 (14)
Intuition (INT): 76 (18) ... 76 (18)
Wisdom (WIS): 100 (30) ... 100 (30)
Influence (INF): 61 (0) ... 61 (0)
Mana: 141 Silver: 0


What are your thoughts? Demonology lore is for back-story and RP, but isn't used much yet. She'll likely never use animates, so I' fine with reducing or dropping necromancy altogether. Elemental lores can easily be reduced, but how far? I'd like to change her spell aiming to 2x, but I could be swayed either way.

What about other skills like climbing and swimming, first aid, and perception?

She's in Voln, so no wracking or other handy symbols.

In short, um, help?

[whiteflash]

There are several threads where various opinions on sorcery are fettered out.

MOC, 10 ranks gets you one FoF offset and splash benefits from 111. I would drop it all.

Your magic skills are all fine if you are using a runestaff. 1x in those is good and well.

Climbing/swimming. Personal choices here, depending on where you hunt. 25 or so climbing/swimming is plenty until you get to cap areas with a few exceptions.

First aid/Survival. Again personal choice, mainly for AG tasks. Since you are voln FA might be nice for tending wounds.

I'd suggest getting 20 ranks above level in sorcerer circle for the 15 CS you will gain. And I generally would not go above 0.66 in the other circles until you are near cap.

2x spell aiming is something I used until near cap, then I switched to 1x. I found focused aiming and the rare bolt to be nice additions. If you want to bolt things you should consider keeping 20 summoning lore for the web bolt, which is a really nice addition to your bolting repertoire. Also helps with 111 damage, and as a volner being able to use wizard wands will help with lost mana from no wracking.

I personally would suggest dropping most lore, with the possible exception of necromancy to 0.6x or so if you would like to use pain on targets. Forced hard RT is pretty awesome. The elemental lores are really niche and generally speaking not worth the cost. Of course if you want to use demons for RP or fringe benefits, keep your demonology where it suits you. However you don't need any demonology to summon demons.

Good luck.

ps. If you did not have lich before, download it.

[Reltov420]

Get rid of your elemental lores, not worth the points. Also, ditch necromancy, and keep demonology. 2x spell aim or none, and 1x physical fitness.

[Morph]

I'm feeling lazy, but I think what would make the biggest immediate difference is if you dump a lot of that junk (lores, moc, first aid and whatever else it takes), and pick up 425 and 430.

[Gibreficul]

(at level 76), your base skill bonuses, ranks and goals are:
Skill Name | Actual Actual
| Bonus Ranks Goals In-Game Time to Goal
Armor Use..........................| 40 8 8
Physical Fitness...................| 146 46.790 33 16 days, 1 hour, 58 minutes
Arcane Symbols.....................| 177 77 77
Harness Power......................| 176 76 76
Elemental Mana Control.............| 140 40 40
Spirit Mana Control................| 140 40 40
Sorcerous Lore - Demonology........| 90 20 20
Perception.........................| 120 30 30
Climbing...........................| 120 30 30
Swimming...........................| 130 35 35

Spell Lists
Minor Elemental....................| 75 75

Spell Lists
Minor Spirit.......................| 51 51

Spell Lists
Sorcerer...........................| 108 108
Training Points: 141 Phy 0 Mnt (2826 Phy converted to Mnt)

That's my beastly, boring build. It's all about CS. I got my 20 demon lore ranks so I can 740 with a single group member, no other reason. That pool of TPs is there because of the PF migration.... I'll probably dump those points into MIU, or EMC/SMC ranks when those PF ranks migrate down.

In a sorcerer's world... all those "extra" skills are just that, extra, and they detract from your real power, which is your CS. Max out spells ASAP. Have 75 minor elemental ranks at level 75 for the full 425 bonus. Keep minor spirit spells at 2/3 your level (round up).

That's my advice, take it with a grain of salt. (Basically, if you don't like what I'm saying, ignore it and do what you want, but know your CS will be lower than it could be.)

:welcome:

[soybean]

Okay, I think I'm basically looking at a build like below:


Armor use ........................... 8 ranks
Physical fitness .................... 42 ranks
Arcance symbols .................. 42 ranks
MIU .................................... 42 ranks
Harness Power ..................... 40 ranks
Spell Aiming ........................ 84 ranks
Elemental Mana .................... 24 ranks
Spiritual Mana ...................... 24 ranks

Minor Elemental Spells ........... 30 ranks
Minor Spiritual Spells ............. 20 ranks
Sorcerous Spells ................... 52 ranks

Spiritual Lore, summoning ...... 20 ranks
Sorcerous Lore, demonology ... 20 ranks
Sorcerous Lore, necromancy .... 1 rank

Climbing .............................. 15 ranks
Swimming ............................ 15 ranks
Perception ............................ 30 ranks


That leaves me with level +12 on sorcerous spells, but I think getting 425 and 430 right now are more important.

I've left necromancy at only one rank. I'll probably increase it over time, but right now I just don't use Pain very much.

Ideal/eventual goals:
1x perception
Level +20 on sorcerer spells
Demonology lore to 40 ranks (maybe 50 later in life)
20 ranks of climbing/swimming (increasing more later in life)
Spiritual lore, summoning to 30 ranks


I don't think I'm crippling myself with this build, but is there anything I'm wholly neglecting?

[whiteflash]

Okay, I think I'm basically looking at a build like below:


Armor use ........................... 8 ranks
Physical fitness .................... 42 ranks
Arcance symbols .................. 42 ranks
MIU .................................... 42 ranks
Harness Power ..................... 40 ranks
Spell Aiming ........................ 84 ranks
Elemental Mana .................... 24 ranks
Spiritual Mana ...................... 24 ranks

Minor Elemental Spells ........... 30 ranks
Minor Spiritual Spells ............. 20 ranks
Sorcerous Spells ................... 52 ranks

Spiritual Lore, summoning ...... 20 ranks
Sorcerous Lore, demonology ... 20 ranks
Sorcerous Lore, necromancy .... 1 rank

Climbing .............................. 15 ranks
Swimming ............................ 15 ranks
Perception ............................ 30 ranks


That leaves me with level +12 on sorcerous spells, but I think getting 425 and 430 right now are more important.

I've left necromancy at only one rank. I'll probably increase it over time, but right now I just don't use Pain very much.

Ideal/eventual goals:
1x perception
Level +20 on sorcerer spells
Demonology lore to 40 ranks (maybe 50 later in life)
20 ranks of climbing/swimming (increasing more later in life)
Spiritual lore, summoning to 30 ranks


I don't think I'm crippling myself with this build, but is there anything I'm wholly neglecting?


Looks great, way better than before. Welcome back.

[soybean]

Looks great, way better than before. Welcome back.

Thanks! I'm glad to be back :grin: