Obama Brewing in the White House [Archive] - The Gemstone IV Players' Corner

ClydeR

09-18-2011, 05:43 PM

His more conservative predecessors will be turning in their graves.

But Barack Obama has been continuing to use the venerable halls of the White House to indulge his predilection for home-brewed beer.

Spurred on by an unnamed chef who is a home-brewing enthusiast, the Obamas have been producing their own beer, while in the process making White House history.

Historians say Obama's term is the first time beer has been brewed the White House.

The President's taste for home brew came to the forefront this week when a war hero asked to have a beer with the president ahead of receiving the nation's highest military award.

More... (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2038342/Cheers-Obama-brews-batches-homespun-beer-time-White-House-history--leaves-real-work-chefs.html)

This is just wrong. You can be sure that whatever Republican replaces Obama in 2013 will get rid of the White House brewery.

Androidpk

09-18-2011, 05:54 PM

This is just wrong. You can be sure that whatever Republican replaces Obama in 2013 will get rid of the White House brewery.

And replace it with an opium den?

Parkbandit

09-18-2011, 07:24 PM

He's not making it.. he's having it made.

Back

09-18-2011, 08:23 PM

This is just wrong.

You are slacking, ClydeR. What cockamamie psudeo-psycho religious rightwing reason is it bad for them to brew beer in the White House?

You can be sure that whatever Republican replaces Obama in 2013 will get rid of the White House brewery.

Typically you provide us with some kind of double negative thinking behind your reasoning. Why would a republican get rid of the practice?

Parkbandit

09-18-2011, 08:28 PM

You are slacking, ClydeR. What cockamamie psudeo-psycho religious rightwing reason is it bad for them to brew beer in the White House?

Typically you provide us with some kind of double negative thinking behind your reasoning. Why would a republican get rid of the practice?

I'm forced to agree with Backlash. It's the progressives that would be more inclined to prohibit such a practice.

Rinualdo

09-18-2011, 08:49 PM

I'm forced to agree with Backlash.

Quoted for future reference.

ClydeR

09-18-2011, 08:58 PM

You are slacking, ClydeR.

I forgot that I was addressing a forum full of liberal elites who don't understand conservative issues. That's why Democrats keep losing elections.

If Romney wins, he'll get rid of it because Mormons don't ever drink alcohol. They even think coffee is a sin.

If Perry wins, he'll get rid of it based on the logic in his 2008 book On My Honor about the Boy Scouts.

Though I am no expert on the "nature versus nurture" debate, I can sympathize with those who believe sexual preference is genetic. It may be so, but it remains unproved. Even if it were, this does not mean we are ultimately not responsible for the active choices we make. Even if an alcoholic is powerless over alcohol once it enters his body, he still makes a choice to drink. And, even if someone is attracted to a person of the same sex, he or she still makes a choice to engage in sexual activity with someone of the same gender.

If it would be okay to engage in homosexuality in moderation, then it would be okay to drink alcohol in moderation. Do you really think Perry believes it is okay to engage in homosexuality as long as it's in moderation?

And before somebody starts accusing Perry of plagiarizing (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/post/perrys-grasp-of-foreign-policy-still-shaky/2011/03/29/gIQAnj5aXK_blog.html) like they did with his Israel letter to the editor, I think we can all tell he wrote the 2008 book himself.

Androidpk

09-18-2011, 09:15 PM

http://www.northernwinorml.org/images/L03483537R_detail.jpg

Back

09-18-2011, 09:21 PM

If Romney wins, he'll get rid of it because Mormons don't ever drink alcohol. They even think coffee is a sin.

Your point makes a Romney election look worse than a Perry election. Well done!

Parkbandit

09-18-2011, 09:53 PM

Your point makes a Romney election look worse than a Perry election. Well done!

Difference between Mormons and Progressives... Mormons don't enforce their beliefs upon others.

Rinualdo

09-18-2011, 10:22 PM

Difference between Mormons and Progressives... Mormons don't enforce their beliefs upon others.

lololololol.

No really.

lololololol.

Gan

09-18-2011, 10:35 PM

Sean of the Thread

09-18-2011, 11:24 PM

George Washington comes to mind. He had stills out the ass.

Plus he had two on the vine...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbRom1Rz8OA

Back

09-18-2011, 11:36 PM

Isn't the White House garden growing its own maryjane? I can't think of a better compliment than adding its own brew too. Now all we need is a distillery for some smooth Washington whiskey. We can call it Washington No. 8.

Thats why people needed guns back in the day... to protect their hard work against people who might steal from the stash.

Sean of the Thread

09-18-2011, 11:42 PM

Thats why people needed guns back in the day... to protect their hard work against people who might steal from the stash.

You say some really dipshit things. I used to think it was intellectual sarcasm but mainly over the last like five years I think you're just retarded.

Back

09-18-2011, 11:50 PM

You say some really dipshit things. I used to think it was intellectual sarcasm but mainly over the last like five years I think you're just retarded.

We are similar in that respect. Where we differ is that I know I am retarded.

Sean of the Thread

09-18-2011, 11:59 PM

We are similar in that respect. Where we differ is that I know I am retarded.

Actually where we're different is you have an extra chromosome and a small pecker.

Lulfas

09-19-2011, 12:51 AM

Difference between Mormons and Progressives... Mormons don't enforce their beliefs upon others.

Prop 8 says hi.

Delias

09-19-2011, 02:28 AM

Difference between Mormons and Progressives... Mormons don't enforce their beliefs upon others.

How are the progressives enforcing their beliefs when the conservatives have all the guns?

Parkbandit

09-19-2011, 08:06 AM

Prop 8 says hi.

Prop 8 is a Mormon initiative? Source?

ClydeR

09-19-2011, 11:50 AM

Prop 8 is a Mormon initiative? Source?

Definitely. It's true both in terms in terms of money and time.

Paradii

09-19-2011, 12:18 PM

Difference between Mormons and Progressives... Mormons don't enforce their beliefs upon others.

Really? Really? Are you familiar with the religion at all?

Suppa Hobbit Mage

09-19-2011, 01:55 PM

White Castle Burgers and White House Brew anyone? Seems kinda racist to me!

Parkbandit

09-19-2011, 02:12 PM

Really? Really? Are you familiar with the religion at all?

Not really, but there is a difference between preaching and legislating.

Paradii

09-19-2011, 02:13 PM

Not really, but there is a difference between preaching and legislating.

What about going to 3rd world countries and outright lying to people in order to get them to follow your beliefs?

Parkbandit

09-19-2011, 02:15 PM

What about going to 3rd world countries and outright lying to people in order to get them to follow your beliefs?

Which religion isn't doing the same, exact thing?

Tgo01

09-19-2011, 02:17 PM

What about going to 3rd world countries and outright lying to people in order to get them to follow your beliefs?

Yeah that is pretty stupid. They should target rich countries and lie to people there to get them to follow their beliefs then demand they pay a lot of money in order to 'advance' in the religion. Oh wait Scientology already does that.

DeV

09-19-2011, 02:32 PM

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/700038678/Mormon-Church-agrees-to-pay-small-fine-for-mistake-that-led-to-late-report-of-contributions-in-Prop.html

"It was the Church's most vigorous and widespread political involvement since the late 1970s, when it helped defeat the Equal Rights Amendment. Many California members considered it a directive from God and some leaders and members see it as a test of faith and loyalty."

Prop 8 was serious business for the LDS.

Parkbandit

09-19-2011, 02:35 PM

I thought Mormons were only a bunch of rich white guys... didn't the black California community also vote against Prop 8?

Lulfas

09-19-2011, 02:40 PM

Prop 8 is a Mormon initiative? Source?

http://www.theatlantic.com/daily-dish/archive/2008/10/the-mormon-money-behind-proposition-8/209748/

They were 78% of the money behind it.

DeV

09-19-2011, 04:02 PM

I thought Mormons were only a bunch of rich white guys... didn't the black California community also vote against Prop 8?

Of the 10% of blacks that voted, 70% voted yes.

ClydeR

09-19-2011, 04:18 PM

I thought Mormons were only a bunch of rich white guys... didn't the black California community also vote against Prop 8?

Of the 10% of blacks that voted, 70% voted yes.

Just to be sure we're all speaking the same language...

A vote in favor of Prop 8 was a vote against homosexual marriage. A vote against Prop 8 was a vote in favor of homosexual marriage.

Parkbandit

09-19-2011, 04:27 PM

Of the 10% of blacks that voted, 70% voted yes.

So 70% voted yes in support of a ban on gay marriage. I wonder how many of those blacks are Mormons.

Suppa Hobbit Mage

09-19-2011, 04:35 PM

So 70% voted yes in support of a ban on gay marriage. I wonder how many of those blacks are Mormons.

Racist and Antigodist.

DeV

09-19-2011, 05:14 PM

The resulting ban can't be blamed on any one group or community exclusively. That's a given. Ultimately, it's a great thing when people exercise their constitutional right to vote. It makes it harder for them to claim disenfranchisement and so on in future elections.

DeV

09-19-2011, 05:15 PM

I wonder how many of those blacks are Mormons.I wonder if they know they have the mark of Cain.

ClydeR

09-19-2011, 06:15 PM

So 70% voted yes in support of a ban on gay marriage. I wonder how many of those blacks are Mormons.

Zero. As I carefully explained in an epic (http://www.forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?t=65058) two week takedown of Mormonism, Mormons don't like black people. I would imagine not many blacks want to join a cult that officially thinks they are inferior.

Parkbandit

09-19-2011, 06:47 PM

The resulting ban can't be blamed on any one group or community exclusively. That's a given.

So, you are now backpedaling from your previous post, inferring that it was the Mormons who were to blame.

Glad I could help.

Parkbandit

09-19-2011, 06:48 PM

I wonder if they know they have the mark of Cain.

They know they have the mark of coin.. if that helps.

DeV

09-19-2011, 07:14 PM

So, you are now backpedaling from your previous post, inferring that it was the Mormons who were to blame.

Glad I could help.I think it's you who needs to backpedal.

"Prop 8 was serious business for the LDS" in no way infers that the Mormons were to blame.

Parkbandit

09-19-2011, 09:54 PM

Prop 8 is a Mormon initiative? Source?

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/700038678/Mormon-Church-agrees-to-pay-small-fine-for-mistake-that-led-to-late-report-of-contributions-in-Prop.html

"It was the Church's most vigorous and widespread political involvement since the late 1970s, when it helped defeat the Equal Rights Amendment. Many California members considered it a directive from God and some leaders and members see it as a test of faith and loyalty."

Prop 8 was serious business for the LDS.

I never had to backpedal... given I didn't try and blame the Mormons for Prop 8. That was you... well, at first, until you actually backpedaled.

DeV

09-20-2011, 12:13 AM

Why not go with the more sensible, "Mormons don't enforce their beliefs upon others."

Because they do, at least, that's exactly what they intended to do, along with other religious and secular groups.

If it wasn't obvious, since I ever quoted you initially, let me make myself clear. I know all about Prop 8, PB, and never once asserted that it was a Mormon iniative. I know better. In fact, I didn't quote you at all in my post, I simply posted a link, quoted an article, and made a remark.

Blaming Mormons for initiatiating Prop 8 is just as disingenuous as saying Mormons don't enforce their beliefs upon others.

And if my initial reply and response to your questions constitue laying blame, we've got totally different definitions of blame, and I'm quite alright with that. Just don't twist my words.

Parkbandit

09-20-2011, 08:12 AM

Why not go with the more sensible, "Mormons don't enforce their beliefs upon others."

Because they do, at least, that's exactly what they intended to do, along with other religious and secular groups.

There was a reason why I chose the term "enforce".

If it wasn't obvious, since I ever quoted you initially, let me make myself clear. I know all about Prop 8, PB, and never once asserted that it was a Mormon iniative. I know better. In fact, I didn't quote you at all in my post, I simply posted a link, quoted an article, and made a remark.

Oh, I knew why you didn't quote my post... only answered it with the source I asked for... plausible deniability. When called out, you could pull a WB and say "I didn't quote you, therefore I wasn't responding to you"

Blaming Mormons for initiatiating Prop 8 is just as disingenuous as saying Mormons don't enforce their beliefs upon others.

You might want to look up that term.. enforce.

And if my initial reply and response to your questions constitue laying blame, we've got totally different definitions of blame, and I'm quite alright with that. Just don't twist my words.

Your words needed no twisting. Hey, how many black mormons are there in California?

DeV

09-20-2011, 09:36 AM

Difference between Mormons and Progressives... Mormons don't enforce their beliefs upon others.

lololololol.

No really.

lololololol.

Really? Really? Are you familiar with the religion at all?

Not really, but there is a difference between preaching and legislating. and enforcing beliefs upon others...

http://www.theatlantic.com/daily-dish/archive/2008/10/the-mormon-money-behind-proposition-8/209748/ (http://www.theatlantic.com/daily-dish/archive/2008/10/the-mormon-money-behind-proposition-8/209748/)

They were 78% of the money behind it.

The only person that directly quoted and answered you affirmatively was ClydeR:

Definitely. It's true both in terms in terms of money and time.

Yet you didn't bother responding to his insight.

Your words needed no twisting. So stop twisting them.
Hey, how many black mormons are there in California? Hey, how in the fuck would I know the answer to that? How about doing your own grunt work for a change.