Obama Jobs Speech

[Gan]

What? No thread on the Obama speech from last night?

You guys are slipping.

I woke up this morning thinking "I must pass this jobs bill."

Admittedly I passed something else instead.

Discuss (http://www.forbes.com/sites/carminegallo/2011/09/09/obamas-jobs-speech-rhetorical-analysis/).

[Rinualdo]

The speech was meh, the Republican and Democratic response was meh.
There were some things I liked, but at best its a temp solution.

[Parkbandit]

I heard nothing new in his speech last night... I guess Wall Street felt the same way today....

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

No content is no commitment and zero value, IMO. It's a concept, not a plan. Until specifics are given, it's all hot air. Some I liked, some I disliked, a very large amount was rhetoric.

Lots of tax cuts, tax credits and infrastructure spending... but not a peep about how he'll pay for it all.

[g++]

It was quite literally a very long winded way of saying. "Lets do the same shit for another year and build some kind of bank"

[Tgo01]

I haven't heard much about it other than some people claiming he said "Pass this bill!" about a dozen times.

[BriarFox]

Link the transcript: http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2011/09/08/address-president-joint-session-congress

[Tgo01]

Link the transcript: http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2011/09/08/address-president-joint-session-congress

Holy shit, I counted 18 times.

And this:


Pass this jobs bill -- pass this jobs bill, and starting tomorrow, small businesses will get a tax cut if they hire new workers or if they raise workers’ wages. Pass this jobs bill, and all small business owners will also see their payroll taxes cut in half next year.

Has Obama been practicing his Jedi Mind tricks or something? Was he waving his hands a lot during the speech?

[BriarFox]

Repetition is a key feature of oratory. It certainly got the message across.

[Parkbandit]

Repetition is a key feature of oratory. It certainly got the message across.

Not if you are an effective speaker. It was over used and annoying and diminished what he was trying to say.

[Gan]

What? No thread on the Obama speech from last night?

You guys are slipping.

I woke up this morning thinking "I must pass this jobs bill."

Admittedly I passed something else instead.

Discuss (http://www.forbes.com/sites/carminegallo/2011/09/09/obamas-jobs-speech-rhetorical-analysis/).

The link above is an analysis from a professional speech writer/orator. Intersting thoughts on the techniques that were used for his speech.
The only thing missing were subliminal messaging and some jedi mind tricks.

[Rinualdo]

I'm curious if anyone disagrees with the specific proposals.

[Gan]

I'm curious to see how he plans on paying for it. Specifics that is.

[Parkbandit]

I'm curious if anyone disagrees with the specific proposals.

The specific proposal won't be out for another week.. but from the sounds of it.. we should name it "Son of Stimulus".

[Rinualdo]

The specific proposal won't be out for another week.. but from the sounds of it.. we should name it "Son of Stimulus".

I think he outlined the proposals, just not the exact details. It should still be enough to form an opinion about.

Are there any you disagree with?

[Parkbandit]

I think he outlined the proposals, just not the exact details. It should still be enough to form an opinion about.

Are there any you disagree with?

Well, let's see:

I don't think we can spend out way out of this problem... something Obama disagrees with.

I don't think we should raise taxes during this problem.. something that Obama disagrees with, then agrees with, now disagrees with.

Obama has no way of backing up his claim that this will be paid for by savings... given the plan for saving hasn't been formulated yet. He's basically giving us an IOU on it... a promise.

There's a reason why Wall Street didn't like his plan today.. it's because the same plan 2 years ago for twice the money didn't work.

[Atlanteax]

Obama backs Green-Energy (Solar) Company (for job-creating "green industry" push)

Company later files for Bankruptcy...

COINCIDENCE ?!? You decide!!!

http://money.cnn.com/2011/09/09/technology/solyndra_fbi/index.htm?iid=HP_LN


Solyndra filed for bankruptcy last week, closing its Fremont, Calif., factory and laying off 1,100 workers. The falling price of traditional silicon-based solar panels was cited as the main reason for the closure. Solyndra made a more advanced panel that relied on less silicon. When its rivals' technology got cheaper, Solyndra's became less appealing.

The company's factory was built with a $535 million loan backed by the Department of Energy. It was touted by President Obama as one of the ways his administration is nurturing a new, jobs-creating clean energy economy.

The bankruptcy has drawn an outcry from lawmakers and others skeptical of Obama's green jobs push.

But wait... was dirty-money politics involved?


t's unclear just how much taxpayers will ultimately lose in Solyndra's bankruptcy process, if anything. It's possible the company could emerge restructured and ready to compete. But it's also possible it could be broken up and sold off.

LaVera said that in a worse-case, liquidation scenario, the DOE is high on the list to get back at least some of the $527 million Solyndra drew from the loan.

There has been talk from critics that Solyndra received the money in part because one of the company's main financial backers, billionaire George Kaiser, is also a big Democratic campaign donor.

Clearly, Obama *does not* have the Midas touch...

[g++]

As fun as it is chopping articles up heres the rest of it.



There has been talk from critics that Solyndra received the money in part because one of the company's main financial backers, billionaire George Kaiser, is also a big Democratic campaign donor.
"That is absolutely untrue," LaVera said, noting that the loan application was submitted under the Bush administration and mostly complete by the time Obama took office.
"Sophisticated, professional private investors, who put more than $1 billion of their own money behind Solyndra, came to the same conclusion as the Department: that Solyndra was an extremely promising company with innovative technology and a very good investment," he said.

[BriarFox]

http://www.americanjobsact.com/

The official site for the Jobs Act.