media bias?

[zzentar]

I normally don't chime in on politics, but when I see something on CNN or Fox or other news stations, I google it so I can read the whole story. All I can say is WOW, when i googled the newsweek cover, "newsweek bachmann".

Even NOW had to say this was out of line.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/08/09/1004895/-Was-Newsweeks-Bachmann-photo-really-weirder-than-her-tea-party-SOTU-response-video

[Parkbandit]

The way the mainstream media goes after Republican women... and even Democrat women who get in the way (ala Hillary Clinton) is amazing. I'm very surprised that NOW made a statement against this... given their liberal first, women second approach to politics. I would say good for them, but I bet they were under gigantic pressure to make this statement.

[milesalpha]

You would have enjoyed last night's Daily Show, Stewart absolutely creamed Newsweek on this issue.

[WRoss]

The way the mainstream media goes after Republican women... and even Democrat women who get in the way (ala Hillary Clinton) is amazing. I'm very surprised that NOW made a statement against this... given their liberal first, women second approach to politics. I would say good for them, but I bet they were under gigantic pressure to make this statement.

From the website:


Remember, Bachmann controlled the video feed for her SOTU response. The stagecraft was her decision, not the media's, and yet she looked even stranger then than she does now on the cover of Newsweek.

Maybe at some point the Bachmannbots will realize that the problem is with their candidate, not the camera.


Still seems like they are bashing her.

[Androidpk]

I love how people are saying they are enraged and that this is sexist.

[Khariz]

I love how people are saying they are enraged and that this is sexist.

Nice one-liner. Why do you love it? Are you implying inherent irony?

[Androidpk]

Nice one-liner. Why do you love it? Are you implying inherent irony?

No, I just believe there are way more things that are far more important for people to get up in arms about besides an unflattering picture of Michele Bachmann on the cover ofNewsweek.

[crb]

Newsweek is the liberal equivalent of The Weekly Standard. Thats fine, it is a free country. They just need to admit it. Stop pretending like they aren't trying to carry Obama's water. Admit you're a liberal magazine, not an unbiased news source.

The bottom line is a photographer takes hundreds of photos during a shoot. They always seem to choose the best one with Obama (often with a halo around his head, or otherwise dramatic back-lighting). Meanwhile they apparently purposefully overlit Bachmann, and probably choose the worst photo from the lot that still had her eyes open.

They just need to stop pretending they don't have an agenda. There is nothing wrong with a publication having a point of view, they just need to admit it.

[Khariz]

No, I just believe there are way more things that are far more important for people to get up in arms about besides an unflattering picture of Michele Bachmann on the cover of Newsweek.

Yeah, I agree with that in general, but are you saying that because there are bigger problems, this one isn't worth people getting angry about?

I think that line of thought is dangerous. What if the cops used that line of thought? Why should we care about domestic violence (say a husband slapping his wife in the face for being a bitch) when there are people raping and murdering each other out there? Why should we care about whether someone is paying alimony or not when there's embezzlement and grand larceny? Why care about drug possession when we have drug distribution?

I'm being purposefully ridiculous just to point out that the relative severity of one problem juxtaposed to another has no actual bearing on whether said problem is one that needs fixed. At least not in my opinion. I certainly agree that some problems are more worthy of attention than others though.

[Androidpk]

Yeah, I agree with that in general, but are you saying that because there are bigger problems, this one isn't worth people getting angry about?

Basically, yes, when you look at the scope of problems this country is facing.

[Cephalopod]

People still buy / read Newsweek?

[Cephalopod]

lolol (http://www.thedailybeast.com/content/newsweek/galleries/2011/08/08/michelle-bachmann-newsweek-cover-photos.html)

[Androidpk]

This quote sums up what I feel perfectly.

"Maybe media types needed this story so they don't have to cover something far more substantive. Say, like a falling economy while the idiots in Congress chill for a month."

[Drew]

This quote sums up what I feel perfectly.

"Maybe media types needed this story so they don't have to cover something far more substantive. Say, like a falling economy while the idiots in Congress chill for a month."

Hey, Harry Reid has mango trees he has not even seen in bloom!!!

[Parkbandit]

lolol (http://www.thedailybeast.com/content/newsweek/galleries/2011/08/08/michelle-bachmann-newsweek-cover-photos.html)

They still picked the worst picture... or the best picture for their needs.

And why would they go through the trouble of photoshopping out the flag pin on her collar?

[Keller]

Hey, Harry Reid has mango trees he has not even seen in bloom!!!

Someone's got to oversee the mexicans picking, seeding, and juicing his pommegranites.

[WRoss]

They still picked the worst picture... or the best picture for their needs.

And why would they go through the trouble of photoshopping out the flag pin on her collar?

As much as I am not for Michelle, even though I tend to lean conservative, that's classless.

[Keller]

What I don't understand is why Newsweek would risk their "reputation" on Michelle Bachmann.

Fucking morons over at Newsweek.

You don't see the Weekly Standard going out of their way to make Cynthia McKinney look bad, do you?

[CrystalTears]

You don't see the Weekly Standard going out of their way to make Cynthia McKinney look bad, do you?
Would that actually take any effort?

[Keller]

Would that actually take any effort?

That is precisely my point.

Just accurately report what Michelle Bachmann does and use a normal picture.

If your agenda is to help Obama win in 2012, put a picture of Romney picking his nose on the cover.

[Androidpk]

Shit, the picture isn't that bad.

[Parkbandit]

Shit, the picture isn't that bad.

Do you believe that the picture was selected on purpose to make her look as badly as they could?

I STILL don't understand what the motivation was to cover up the flag pin. Did they believe it would make her look less patriotic?

[Khariz]

Do you believe that the picture was selected on purpose to make her look as badly as they could?

I STILL don't understand what the motivation was to cover up the flag pin. Did they believe it would make her look less patriotic?

After actually seeing the picture, I wish I hadn't posted in this thread at all, lol.

[Cephalopod]

Do you believe that the picture was selected on purpose to make her look as badly as they could?

I STILL don't understand what the motivation was to cover up the flag pin. Did they believe it would make her look less patriotic?

I haven't seen the flag pin thing mentioned, but I haven't been looking too closely. That certainly seems underhanded, but magazines always do weird, subtle things like that. (Like Bill Clinton's devil horns in Time.)

Do you think their photo selection was sexist, or just driven by a desire to make her (as a conservative) look bad?

How about the Newsweek cover of Howard Dean giving his infamous 'rebel yell' in 2004? Was that chosen to make him (as a liberal) look bad, or was it sexist?

[Cephalopod]

Also, this randomly popped up in search result (http://www.infowars.com/michelle-obama-flashes-%E2%80%98el-diablo%E2%80%99-hand-signal-on-cover-of-vogue/)s and made me lol.

[Parkbandit]

I haven't seen the flag pin thing mentioned, but I haven't been looking too closely. That certainly seems underhanded, but magazines always do weird, subtle things like that. (Like Bill Clinton's devil horns in Time.)

Do you think their photo selection was sexist, or just driven by a desire to make her (as a conservative) look bad?

How about the Newsweek cover of Howard Dean giving his infamous 'rebel yell' in 2004? Was that chosen to make him (as a liberal) look bad, or was it sexist?

It's probably a more liberal/conservative issue than a sexist issue..

[msconstrew]

Even NOW had to say this was out of line.

Feminism is feminism is feminism. I may disagree with every word that comes out of Bachmann's mouth (I do), but what I don't do is use gendered insults to disparage her politics. As with Sarah Palin or any other female politician with whom I disagree, it's much easier and much more palateable to criticize and examine her politican positions than it is to make an ad hominem attack on her based on her gender. I wish the MSM would figure that out, and stop doing it.

I see PB brought up Hilary Clinton below. She bears a lot of this because she's older and is no longer traditionally pretty like a lot of the female politicians we now see entering the fray. Mock or disagree with her policies if you must, but who fucking care what color her suit is (Tim Gunn, I'm looking at you!) or what her body looks like? It simply doesn't matter.

As for NOW being "under a lot of pressure" - nice assumption. Why don't you show me some evidence for your baseless, speculative statement and maybe then I'll agree with you.

[Keller]

Hilary Clinton is no longer traditionally pretty

At first I was like, but . . .

http://www.hillaryclintonpictures.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/hillary-clinton-bill-young1.jpg


And then I realized you were talking about Hilary with one L. I think we're all thinking about Hillary with two Ls, who was never traditionally pretty (or untraditionally pretty).

[msconstrew]

At first I was like, but . . .

http://www.hillaryclintonpictures.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/hillary-clinton-bill-young1.jpg


And then I realized you were talking about Hilary with one L. I think we're all thinking about Hillary with two Ls, who was never traditionally pretty (or untraditionally pretty).

OIC WHAT U DID THAR. CLEVER.

... and of course I was talking about Clinton.

[Parkbandit]

As for NOW being "under a lot of pressure" - nice assumption. Why don't you show me some evidence for your baseless, speculative statement and maybe then I'll agree with you.

Look at the outrage this has brought about.. even by crazy liberals like yourself. Newsweek went over the top to make Bachmann look badly, probably crossing the line... but this isn't the first time they have done hatchet jobs on Republican women.

NOW is a political organization that places their liberal agenda above all else.. even women.

[zzentar]

As for NOW being "under a lot of pressure" - nice assumption. Why don't you show me some evidence for your baseless, speculative statement and maybe then I'll agree with you.

I never said they were 'under a lot of pressure', I did Infer that NOW, who is so left wing that it had to actually twist their colons into pretzels before they could stomach actually having to admit that Newsweek was purposely finding the most unflattering picture of her that they could.

Now as far as backing up my baseless statement, might I suggest that you refer to OP and dont believe anything anyone says but 'read' and 'research'. Instead of google, "newsweek bachmann", try "newsweek bachmann NOW".

Google is amazing.......

And guess what, you now have an article from CBS with the title, imagine this:

"NOW joins chorus criticizing Newsweek's Bachmann cover as candidate brushes it off"

[4a6c1]

The way the mainstream media goes after Republican women... and even Democrat women who get in the way (ala Hillary Clinton) is amazing. I'm very surprised that NOW made a statement against this... given their liberal first, women second approach to politics. I would say good for them, but I bet they were under gigantic pressure to make this statement.

Yes. Especially Republican women. Especially mothers or matronly types who show even the slightest hint of passion or emotion. Palin gets the worst of it because she just never shuts up. And I think it really comes from a good place inside of her but she's not very well educated or advised. She needs training!

Still, when did the ability to emote become such a negative characteristic for our leaders?

[CrystalTears]

As for NOW being "under a lot of pressure" - Damn migraines.

[AnticorRifling]

Still, when did the ability to emote become such a negative characteristic for our leaders?

Emotions have no place in decision making now go sammich me up something delicious.

[Latrinsorm]

Are people surprised that there is a pervasive bias against a historically marginalized group?

[4a6c1]

Emotions have no place in decision making now go sammich me up something delicious.

And sociopathy has no place in leadership. Make me a goddamn sammich....on your knees! Heavy on the hynolactation milk.

[Parkbandit]

Are people surprised that there is a pervasive bias against a historically marginalized group?

http://cosmicoutpost.com/gallery/albums/userpics/not_this_shit_again.jpg

[waywardgs]

She needs training!


/agree

[TheEschaton]

I wonder if Newsweek could release all the pictures they took of Michelle Bachman in that photo shoot. Cause I'm pretty sure that wide-eyed look is something she always has.

[Parkbandit]

I wonder if Newsweek could release all the pictures they took of Michelle Bachman in that photo shoot. Cause I'm pretty sure that wide-eyed look is something she always has.

Did you mean Hillary Clinton?

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_171eX0DvZ7k/SA-iQ5tD1SI/AAAAAAAAAHA/SrNvPEEJtu8/s400/Hillary%2Bcrazy%2Beyes%2B3.jpg

http://images.sodahead.com/polls/001659933/330327774_Hillary20crazy20eyes205_xlarge.jpeg

Oh shit, they are hereditary!!

http://www.funpicsfree.com/photogallery/funny%20pics%200308/hillary_chelsea_eyes.jpg

[diethx]

Perhaps E meant Paula Deen... that bitch is always staring creepily-wide-eyed in the checkout aisle at the supermarket...

http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTkxOTAyNDQwNF5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTYwOTQyMTM0._V1._ SX273_SY400_.jpg

http://xfinitytv.comcast.net/blogs/files/2010/06/paula_deen.jpg

http://media.onsugar.com/files/ed2/192/1922195/45_2009/8d16b504e9b20b29_paula-deen.jpg

[TheEschaton]

I don't deny that Hillary is sometimes wide-eyed as well, but I've never seen Bachman NOT wide-eyed when speaking her crazy shit.

[waywardgs]

You couldn't beat the crazy out of that woman. Having lived in MN and listened to her insanity for years, I can assure you of that.

As far as the media going after conservative women is concerned... if they didn't field such wingnuts, it wouldn't be as easy. That said, at least Palin is (moderately) up front about going for the cash. I can accept that. Bachmann is a whole different ball game though.

[Androidpk]

Do you believe that the picture was selected on purpose to make her look as badly as they could?


No.

[Androidpk]

Do you think their photo selection was sexist, or just driven by a desire to make her (as a conservative) look bad?

Why are those the only two options? Could it POSSIBLY be that this is being blown way out of proportion and there was nothing nefarious behind the selection of that photo among all the others? Of course not, then people would have nothing to bitch about!

[Androidpk]

Also, you want a bad picture?

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-4muLVI1LirU/Ti0GKPWYW0I/AAAAAAAAb8g/k_mBw_w9TNs/s1600/HillaryClintonBali.jpg

[Inspire]

Maybe she was having head pains that day.

[Cephalopod]

http://i.imgur.com/1LEAN.jpg

[Atlanteax]

I think Nachos is trying to give people nightmares =(

[diethx]

Titty fucking christ, Nachos.

[AnticorRifling]

That is pretty creepy shit.

[Tsa`ah]

The notion that the media goes after conservative women is just as batshit crazy as some of the things that spew forth from batshit crazy conservative women mouths that are front and center (willingly) under the media microscope.

If that picture of Bachman seemed over the top ... she should practice not being batshit crazy ... or at the very least not letting the batshit crazy reflect in her facial expressions. It isn't as if THAT is the only wide eyed "I'd rape you in the ass if I had a penis" expression captured in photography to exist. There is a virtual library of such images.

[Parkbandit]

The notion that the media goes after conservative women is just as batshit crazy as some of the things that spew forth from batshit crazy conservative women mouths that are front and center (willingly) under the media microscope.

If that picture of Bachman seemed over the top ... she should practice not being batshit crazy ... or at the very least not letting the batshit crazy reflect in her facial expressions. It isn't as if THAT is the only wide eyed "I'd rape you in the ass if I had a penis" expression captured in photography to exist. There is a virtual library of such images.

It's a left slanted article/picture. You not realizing this isn't surprising to anyone.

[Tsa`ah]

It's a left slanted article/picture. You not realizing this isn't surprising to anyone.

It wasn't linked here and I don't read newsweek. As for the picture ... it's one of very many. That expression is pretty common for Bachman.

The cries of "slant" are bunk to begin with considering most of the people that have taken umbrage over the photo and argument are nothing more than slant mills to begin with. QQ more.

The Rolling Stone article on Bachman was pretty entertaining while telling. I'm sure had they used an actual photo of her using her best Manson expression there would have been some controversy that really isn't controversy stirred. As it is, they just went with a depiction of her in casual wear holding up a newspaper article with a headline that favored her ... after ordering those in the media following her not to take pictures of her in casual clothing.

[Parkbandit]

It wasn't linked here and I don't read newsweek. As for the picture ... it's one of very many. That expression is pretty common for Bachman.

It's Bachmann. Two "n's". It's not that difficult, really. And actually, it's not a "pretty common" pose for Bachmann... unless you are reading moveon.org and mediamatters.org. Oh wait, nevermind..



The cries of "slant" are bunk to begin with considering most of the people that have taken umbrage over the photo and argument are nothing more than slant mills to begin with. QQ more.

No one is crying, Shit4Brains. We're talking facts, while you seem to be stuck in Fairyland. You haven't read the article, but have considered any "slant" talk to be bunk. Awesome.

[Tsa`ah]

It's Bachmann. Two "n's". It's not that difficult, really. And actually, it's not a "pretty common" pose for Bachmann... unless you are reading moveon.org and mediamatters.org. Oh wait, nevermind..



No one is crying, Shit4Brains. We're talking facts, while you seem to be stuck in Fairyland. You haven't read the article, but have considered any "slant" talk to be bunk. Awesome.

Bachman Bachman Bachman ... QQ some more.

[Parkbandit]

Bachman Bachman Bachman ... QQ some more.

http://www.foodmatters.tv/images/assets/noise-fingers-in-ears.jpg

[Tsa`ah]

That pretty much sums up your trip through life thus far.

[Parkbandit]

That pretty much sums up your trip through life thus far.

I know you are, but what am I?

You can do better than that, Shit4Brains... come on, give it another try!

[diethx]

It's a left slanted article/picture.

Can someone please explain to me how a picture can be slanted towards either one party or another? The caption could be slanted, and the article as well, but a picture? What am I not getting?

Was the picture photoshopped by some liberal to make her look crazy? Or was it just one of her natural expressions? After seeing other photos of her, it seems to be a fairly natural expression for her.

[Parkbandit]

Can someone please explain to me how a picture can be slanted towards either one party or another? The caption could be slanted, and the article as well, but a picture? What am I not getting?

Was the picture photoshopped by some liberal to make her look crazy? Or was it just one of her natural expressions? After seeing other photos of her, it seems to be a fairly natural expression for her.

Seriously? Are you saying that you like every picture that is taken of you equally.. or does one picture make you look worse than another?

Here's an example... Newsweek cover picture:

http://mediamixdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Newsweek-Michele-Bachmann.jpg

Now, a picture from the same photo session:

http://schotline.us/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/BachmannNewsmax.jpg

Which picture makes her look worse?

[Tsa`ah]

....

Really ... you're going to compare a NewsMax cover to a Newsweek cover and QQ about slant?

[Parkbandit]

Really ... you're going to compare a NewsMax cover to a Newsweek cover and QQ about slant?

So, you see a difference?

[Tsa`ah]

Of course I do. WTF is wrong with you?

It's NEWSWEEK. Do you see me QQing because NEWSMAX found a rare photo of BachmaN that doesn't look like she's a crazed Jesus freak one step removed from the Phelps family? Of course NEWSMAX is going to go with a flattering picture filled with an equally flattering article that was probably nothing more than a fluff piece that conservatives attempt to self phallate to.

Seriously ... you should stop QQing long enough to remove that palm from your face.

[Parkbandit]

Of course I do. WTF is wrong with you?

It's NEWSWEEK. Do you see me QQing because NEWSMAX found a rare photo of BachmaN that doesn't look like she's a crazed Jesus freak one step removed from the Phelps family? Of course NEWSMAX is going to go with a flattering picture filled with an equally flattering article that was probably nothing more than a fluff piece that conservatives attempt to self phallate to.

Seriously ... you should stop QQing long enough to remove that palm from your face.

I'm beginning to think someone told you what QQ and Facepalm meant (but either you aren't capable of understanding the meanings or the one that told you what they meant didn't use crayons to explain it to you).. and you decided to over use it in all of your posts.

Now.. back on topic: The only point that was being made was that Newsweek used a photo that clearly made Bachmann look crazy. Nothing more.. no one is crying, no one is doing anything else other than pointing it out. That you finally understand is a Friday night miracle that we should all be thankful for.

Go ask your mommy for a cookie, you definitely deserve it!

[Tsa`ah]

You're bitching about it. You're bitching that Newsweek used a picture that gave everyone a visual that a batshit crazy woman was batshit crazy.

Cry me a fucking river. Shit like this happens every election cycle ... and often it is nothing more than grasping for straws and you cheer it when it is done by conservatives ... you parrot it.

[diethx]

Why are people blaming the picture for making her look crazy? How about blaming her crazy ass expression on her crazy ass face?

Ok, so her face is slanted to the left while the rest of her is slanted to the right.

[Androidpk]

The only point that was being made was that Newsweek used a photo that clearly made Bachmann look crazy.

How do you know that? Do you know the editor that selected the picture? Do you? No.

[Parkbandit]

Why are people blaming the picture for making her look crazy? How about blaming her crazy ass expression on her crazy ass face?

Ok, so her face is slanted to the left while the rest of her is slanted to the right.

You can't possibly be this stupid, can you?

Nevermind.

[Parkbandit]

How do you know that? Do you know the editor that selected the picture? Do you? No.

I will chalk this up to the alcohol talking.. there is no way a sober person with half a brain would make this lame of an argument.

[Parkbandit]

You're bitching about it. You're bitching that Newsweek used a picture that gave everyone a visual that a batshit crazy woman was batshit crazy.

Cry me a fucking river. Shit like this happens every election cycle ... and often it is nothing more than grasping for straws and you cheer it when it is done by conservatives ... you parrot it.

No one is crying Shit4Brains.. simply making an observation. Much the same way you made an observation that Newsmax used a flattering photo of her to make her look better than she normally does. I don't disagree.. but it's funny that you believe only the conservative rag does it.

[Androidpk]

I will chalk this up to the alcohol talking.. there is no way a sober person with half a brain would make this lame of an argument.

Answer the question instead of dodging, old man. Do you know the editor that selected the picture and why it was picked out of all the others? Why does it HAVE to be a conspiracy theory? Instead of insulting people left and right that disagree with you, open your fucking eyes.

[Parkbandit]

Answer the question instead of dodging, old man. Do you know the editor that selected the picture and why it was picked out of all the others? Why does it HAVE to be a conspiracy theory? Instead of insulting people left and right that disagree with you, open your fucking eyes.

If you can't figure out what almost everyone else has.. that Newsweek selected an unflattering photo of Bachmann to show her in the worst possible light, then you are even dumber than I originally thought. I gave you the benefit of the doubt for your stupid 2am post earlier.. blaming alcohol for impairing what little brain you have.. but now, it's obvious that it's not alcohol.. it's just plain stupidity.

[waywardgs]

I've met the woman. That's what she looks like 99% of the time. In person and in pictures. Newsmax selected the 1% photo. Newsweek went with the 99%. Who is more biased?

[Androidpk]

If you can't figure out what almost everyone else has.. that Newsweek selected an unflattering photo of Bachmann to show her in the worst possible light, then you are even dumber than I originally thought. I gave you the benefit of the doubt for your stupid 2am post earlier.. blaming alcohol for impairing what little brain you have.. but now, it's obvious that it's not alcohol.. it's just plain stupidity.

OK Rocktar.

[Parkbandit]

I've met the woman. That's what she looks like 99% of the time. In person and in pictures. Newsmax selected the 1% photo. Newsweek went with the 99%. Who is more biased?

Well, that's good enough to me. I mean heck, you actually MET her.. and have used that meeting to determine what she looks like 100% of the time.

I'm convinced.

[Parkbandit]

OK Rocktar.

You're welcome Ilvane.

Oh.. and just a quick question... why did you post this:



No, I just believe there are way more things that are far more important for people to get up in arms about besides an unflattering picture of Michele Bachmann on the cover ofNewsweek.

if you don't believe that Newsweek picked an unflattering picture of Bachmann?

[Androidpk]

I never said it wasn't unflattering, I'm only disputing that it was done with malicious intent.

[Parkbandit]

I never said it wasn't unflattering, I'm only disputing that it was done with malicious intent.

What would be the motivation to select an unflattering picture, if not for a malicious intent?

[waywardgs]

Why do you care so much?

[Androidpk]

What would be the motivation to select an unflattering picture, if not for a malicious intent?

You're implying their was motivation. There are a number of factors that play into the selection of that photo your or I just don't know. And I find it hilarious when these people come out with their righteous anger over this issue. Is there any wonder this country is such a polarized clusterfuck right now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILLZqymJRZI

[Parkbandit]

You're implying their was motivation. There are a number of factors that play into the selection of that photo your or I just don't know. And I find it hilarious when these people come out with their righteous anger over this issue. Is there any wonder this country is such a polarized clusterfuck right now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILLZqymJRZI

You've already admitted that they selected an unflattering photo of Bachmann... and thus there is motivation for doing so. If it wasn't for malicious intent, then what would motivate them to select an unflattering photo?

[Androidpk]

You've already admitted that they selected an unflattering photo of Bachmann... and thus there is motivation for doing so. If it wasn't for malicious intent, then what would motivate them to select an unflattering photo?

I couldn't say. I don't know anything about how Newsweek goes about selecting what photo to use for their covers. Nor have I seen any comments made by Newseek in regards to that picture. Or Bachmann for that matter.

[diethx]

Why do you care so much?

Seriously PB, don't you have more important things to worry about? Like making sure you get on the Smucker's jar next year?

[Tsa`ah]

WTF ... you're still crying about this?

[Parkbandit]

Seriously PB, don't you have more important things to worry about? Like making sure you get on the Smucker's jar next year?

I'm not worried about it. Making fun of retards like you, Androidpk and Tsa`ah is entertaining to me... since I don't often see ignorance like this in my real life.

"Derp, derp.. I don't understand how a picture can make someone look bad"

[Tsa`ah]

I'm not worried about it. Making fun of retards like you, Androidpk and Tsa`ah is entertaining to me... since I don't often see ignorance like this in my real life.

"Derp, derp.. I don't understand how a picture can make someone look bad"

That's pretty funny coming from a walking face palm.

No one is arguing about the picture and if it makes her look bad or not ... what you're not getting is that she looks bad with or without the picture. She looks bad because ... well ... she has spent her entire life making herself look bad. A Newsweek cover and story didn't do the damage.

[Parkbandit]

That's pretty funny coming from a walking face palm.

No one is arguing about the picture and if it makes her look bad or not ... what you're not getting is that she looks bad with or without the picture. She looks bad because ... well ... she has spent her entire life making herself look bad. A Newsweek cover and story didn't do the damage.

This has 0 to do with her past quotes and past antics and 100% to do with a liberal rag selecting the photo that best represented their view of her.

You not understanding this simple concept isn't a surprise to anyone, Shit4Brains.

Now come back with another stupid post that includes the phrases "facepalm" and "QQ".. because you are batting .1000!!!

[waywardgs]

This has 0 to do with her past quotes and past antics and 100% to do with a liberal rag selecting the photo that best represented their view of her.

You not understanding this simple concept isn't a surprise to anyone, Shit4Brains.

Now come back with another stupid post that includes the phrases "facepalm" and "QQ".. because you are batting .1000!!!

I'll ask again... Why do you care? She is in no way a viable candidate. Why do you care if a liberal rag publishes a picture of her with a liberal slant? Does that surprise you?

[Parkbandit]

I'll ask again... Why do you care? She is in no way a viable candidate. Why do you care if a liberal rag publishes a picture of her with a liberal slant? Does that surprise you?

Clearly, as a Republican candidate, she is a viable candidate. Just because I don't personally believe she is means nothing and has nothing to do with the previous debate.

[waywardgs]

Clearly, as a Republican candidate, she is a viable candidate. Just because I don't personally believe she is means nothing and has nothing to do with the previous debate.

She's about as viable as the toilet paper I wiped my ass with this morning, and I think you know that.

[Parkbandit]

She's about as viable as the toilet paper I wiped my ass with this morning, and I think you know that.

She's as viable as Rick Santorum and Ron Paul.. and more viable than Tim Pawlenty, Sarah Palin, Chris Christie and Rudy Giuliani.

And like I said, it has nothing to do with the actual conversation.

[Latrinsorm]

She's as viable as Rick Santorum and Ron Paul.. and more viable than Tim Pawlenty, Sarah Palin, Chris Christie and Rudy Giuliani.So... you agree with waywardgs?

[Rinualdo]

So... you agree with waywardgs?

Them's fightin' words.

[Parkbandit]

So... you agree with waywardgs?

If we were having a conversation about the candidates chances of being the Republican nominee.. probably. But guess what, we're not.

[Keller]

I don't know how much more convincingly PB could have won this debate.

Pretty ugly defeat for Team Newsweek.

[Keller]

I made that post and then when I went back to the main forum, the PC was down for about 30 seconds.

I thought I broke the forums by siding with PB.

Won't happen again.

[Cephalopod]

I'm not understanding the current argument.

Newsweek printed a magazine cover with a photo that fit well with the narrative of their article: namely, the crazed-eye zealotry of Bachmann. Isn't this what magazines always do?

I thought the original argument was whether this was sexist or not.

[Parkbandit]

I made that post and then when I went back to the main forum, the PC was down for about 30 seconds.

I thought I broke the forums by siding with PB.

Won't happen again.

I am now forced to rethink my entire argument... clearly I made a big mistake somewhere...

[waywardgs]

I'm not understanding the current argument.

Newsweek printed a magazine cover with a photo that fit well with the narrative of their article: namely, the crazed-eye zealotry of Bachmann. Isn't this what magazines always do?

I thought the original argument was whether this was sexist or not.

I think a better discussion would be whether it's accurate or not. Does anyone here really think she'd be a competent leader?

[Keller]

I think a better discussion would be whether it's accurate or not. Does anyone here really think she'd be a competent leader?

No.