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zhelas
04-19-2011, 10:56 PM
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703916004576271382418887092.html?m od=e2tw#articleTabs%3Darticle

By SHARON TERLEP

The U.S. government plans to sell a significant share of its remaining stake in General Motors Co. this summer despite the disappointing performance of the auto maker's stock, people familiar with the matter said.

A sale within the next several months would almost certainly mean U.S. taxpayers will take a loss on their $50 billion rescue of the Detroit auto maker in 2009.

To break even, the U.S. Treasury would need to sell its remaining stake—about 500 million shares—at $53 apiece. GM closed off 27 cents a share at $29.97 in 4 p.m. trading Monday on the New York Stock Exchange, hitting a new low since its $33-a-share November initial public offering.


"Planning for the sale of our remaining GM stock is still at an early stage, and the IPO lock-up does not expire until late May," a Treasury spokesperson said. "At that point, we will consider all of our options, based on our twin goals of protecting taxpayers' interests and exiting as soon as practicable."

Shares have been hurt by rising fuel prices, industry production disruptions and management turnover. At Monday's price, and taking into account shares sold during the IPO, taxpayers would lose more than $11 billion on the rescue if the government dumped the rest of its stake now.

Government officials are willing to take the loss because the Obama administration would like to sever its last ties to the auto maker, the people familiar with the matter said. A summer sale makes it more likely Treasury could sell all of its stake in GM by year's end, avoiding a potentially controversial sale in the 2012 presidential election year.

GM also would like an early exit in large part because it faces tight restrictions on executive pay as long as the U.S. government is a part owner.

GM's successful $23.1 billion IPO in November reduced the U.S. government's stake in GM to 26.5% from 61%. As a condition of the IPO, the Treasury isn't able to sell additional holdings before May 22.

At the time of the IPO, Treasury officials and banks underwriting the deal believed the price would climb through the winter, enabling the government to sell most or all of its remaining stake within weeks of the lifting of the sales restriction at a narrower loss to taxpayers, the people familiar said.

Shares have fallen by recent events that have undermined investor confidence in GM. Those include the rise in gas prices, which hurt sales of big, highly profitable trucks. Wall Street also is fretting over recent management moves such as the unexpected departure of Chief Financial Officer Chris Liddell.

Investors also were spooked by GM's sales-incentive blitz in January and February, which could temper the auto maker's first-quarter earnings. GM is expected to report next month that it made money in the first quarter and generated cash from operations, people familiar with the matter said.

The size and form of a summer share offering is under discussion at Treasury. A final decision hasn't been made by Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner, who would need to sign off on a big sale. If GM shares dive, Treasury could decide to hold off longer. Unlike in the IPO, when the government, banks and GM worked closely together on the deal, the government has more leeway to decide how to proceed because GM has already gone public.

GM share price could become further depressed after investors holding bonds of the now-bankrupt "old-GM" receive warrants and stock for existing GM shares. That will happen April 21.

Treasury officials haven't contacted GM about a target date for the sale, a person familiar with the matter said. A sale in May is unlikely because Treasury would need time to put together a deal once the May share sales restriction lifts. July is unlikely because investors would likely want to see results from GM's quarter ending June 30. That leaves the months of June, August and September as the prime targets for an offering

Apathy
04-19-2011, 11:07 PM
Awesome.

56 x 500 million = 28,000,000,000.00
29.97 x 500 million = 14,985,000,000.00
Difference = 13,015,000,000.00

Can't wait to find out who's going to pay for that....

~Rocktar~
04-19-2011, 11:28 PM
You already know, the US Taxpayer. It would have been cheaper to simply deposit the damn money into their fricking union health pool and call it good for all the good it has done. That is a pretty big payoff to the UAW.

Parkbandit
04-20-2011, 08:46 AM
Shock... our government played in the market to buy high and sell low.

LMingrone
04-20-2011, 08:50 AM
What a shock. Like this wasn't planned out in advance. Good thing I don't pay taxes (don't rat me out PC).

Parkbandit
04-20-2011, 09:00 AM
What a shock. Like this wasn't planned out in advance. Good thing I don't pay taxes (don't rat me out PC).

......

Thank you for solidifying my belief that you are a piece of shit.

LMingrone
04-20-2011, 09:07 AM
......

Thank you for solidifying my belief that you are a piece of shit.

And thank you for biting. I pay my taxes. Fucking $15,000 this year. :(((((((((((((((((((((((

Parkbandit
04-20-2011, 09:42 AM
And thank you for biting. I pay my taxes. Fucking $15,000 this year. :(((((((((((((((((((((((

OMG U GOT ME!!

Suppa Hobbit Mage
04-20-2011, 10:26 AM
What happened to "too big to fail"? Fuck I hate Bush for starting this bullshit, and Obama for continuing the madness.

Parkbandit
04-20-2011, 10:59 AM
What happened to "too big to fail"? Fuck I hate Bush for starting this bullshit, and Obama for continuing the madness.

The practice wasn't started by Bush... I remember Chrysler receiving a bailout under Jimmy Carter as well.

~Rocktar~
04-20-2011, 11:09 AM
The practice wasn't started by Bush... I remember Chrysler receiving a bailout under Jimmy Carter as well.

The big difference in that was that when Chrysler did it, they cut management a lot, cut pay across the board, most management took 25-50% pay cuts, the ones left anyway and the union was told you can drop from $12 an hour to $9 an hour base or we are closing the doors. Ford and GM were only a few weeks/months behind Chrysler at that time as well. The union got onboard with the pay reductions and they didn't actually collapse. I don't remember seeing much of anything about union pay cuts and so on with this last bailout BS.

This thing has gone from a pain in the ass fuckup to the level of global clusterfuck and looks to keep going downhill.

Keep in mind that Toyota and other car manufacturers also got government support from their countries and many of them continually do in the form of tax breaks and import/export subsidies. If we protected our markets like many of our competitors do, I would imagine that you would not see many people driving foreign brands, even if they were assembled in America.

Cephalopod
04-20-2011, 11:26 AM
There were other significant differences between the 1979 bailout and the current auto bailouts, most importantly that no taxpayer money actually went to Chrysler during the '79-80 bailout. The government guaranteed Chrysler's private loans but did not actually loan the money, and just for that privilege Chrysler had to make huge commitments, which ~Rocktar~ already mentioned.

Every level of the 2009 auto bailouts was retarded. There was less accountability, less enforced changes and more taxpayer risk. It was a stupid deal from the beginning, and it won't end well. Ugh.

DoctorUnne
04-20-2011, 12:22 PM
Awesome.

56 x 500 million = 28,000,000,000.00
29.97 x 500 million = 14,985,000,000.00
Difference = 13,015,000,000.00

Can't wait to find out who's going to pay for that....

In other words, roughly offsetting the $12 billion profit taxpayers made on Citigroup.

Tgo01
04-20-2011, 12:26 PM
In other words, roughly offsetting the $12 billion profit taxpayers made on Citigroup.

Well that's okay then.

Apathy
04-20-2011, 07:16 PM
In other words, roughly offsetting the $12 billion profit taxpayers made on Citigroup.

Excellent point. I was so happy when I got my Citigroup bailout refund in the mail.

DoctorUnne
04-20-2011, 08:14 PM
Did you make a check out to GM?

Gan
04-22-2011, 09:45 AM
Did you make a check out to GM?

My check was made out to the IRS fbo GM et. al.

Keller
04-22-2011, 09:51 AM
Excellent point. I was so happy when I got my Citigroup bailout refund in the mail.

I knew the IRS was planning on creating a social media division, but I had no idea Apathy was the IRS!

That is so awesome!

Kembal
04-23-2011, 07:31 PM
....

They should be holding on to the stock for at least a year. If the Volt performs as expected, the stock price should rise significantly. Selling in the summer when the stock is going to be battered (if gas prices stay up this much) is nonsensical.