Glenn Beck's Top 15 Lies of 2010

[BriarFox]

Whether you're a liberal or a conservative, this guy's still a douchebag.

http://mediamatters.org/research/201012300001


15 Whoppers Beck Did Not Get Fired For In 2010
December 30, 2010 10:38 am ET — 427 Comments

In 2010, Glenn Beck repeatedly made up facts on Fox News show -- a barrage of lies that would force any credible news outlet to fire him. Media Matters counts down 15 of the most notable fibs that Beck told this year on Fox News, culminating with the biggest lie of all.

No. 15 The Fed Hoards Its Profits

Beck Complains That "Nobody" Is Looking To Recover The Fed's Profits. During a January interview with Sarah Palin, Beck discussed the Federal Reserve's 2009 profits, and claimed, "Exxon had their record profit a couple of years ago. It was $45 billion. The Fed just had record profit, over $50 billion. No one's having hearings on the Fed. Nobody is looking for a windfall profit tax on the Fed. We can't even open the Fed's books." [Fox News, Glenn Beck,1/13/10, via Nexis]

REALITY: The Fed "Returns Its Profits To The Treasury." The Washington Post reported that the Federal Reserve "will return about $45 billion to the U.S. Treasury for 2009 ... the highest earnings in the 96-year history of the central bank. The Fed, unlike most government agencies, funds itself from its own operations and returns its profits to the Treasury." The Post added that these profits "are good news for the federal budget and a sign that the Fed has been successful, at least so far, in protecting taxpayers as it intervenes in the economy -- though there remains a risk of significant losses in the future if the Fed sells some of its investments or loses money on its stakes in bailed-out firms." [The Washington Post, 1/12/10]

No. 14 Tax Dollars Funded An Art Exhibit Actually Paid For By Private Donors

....

[Parkbandit]

Using mediamatters as a source is as stupid as Firestorm Killa using Theblaze.com.

Stop being that guy.

[DrZaius]

Glenn Beck is a shock jock. Don't watch, don't listen, stop talking to people who quote him to you. Or, nuke him from Orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

-DrZ

[BriarFox]

Using mediamatters as a source is as stupid as Firestorm Killa using Theblaze.com.

Stop being that guy.

Oh, about 4 or 5 of those claims are slightly stretched. The rest of them are very hard to refute. Have a read.

[Parkbandit]

Oh, about 4 or 5 of those claims are slightly stretched. The rest of them are very hard to refute. Have a read.

You sound like Firestorm Killa at this point.

[BriarFox]

You sound like Firestorm Killa at this point.

I made a new year's resolution not to argue with idiots on the internet, so instead, I just give you:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_KTbnwsD0C84/SZao-_FPbAI/AAAAAAAAApU/63YA97gWLRk/s320/THE+ROCK+BROW.JPG

[Warriorbird]

You sound like Firestorm Killa at this point.

You've never ever used a partisan source and argued that the posted facts outweigh the bias ever I'm sure.

[Paradii]

I made a new year's resolution not to argue with idiots on the internet, so instead, I just give you:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_KTbnwsD0C84/SZao-_FPbAI/AAAAAAAAApU/63YA97gWLRk/s320/THE+ROCK+BROW.JPG

depending on your time zone, you might have the chance to call PB a douchebag one last time.

[Parkbandit]

I made a new year's resolution not to argue with idiots on the internet, so instead, I just give you:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_KTbnwsD0C84/SZao-_FPbAI/AAAAAAAAApU/63YA97gWLRk/s320/THE+ROCK+BROW.JPG

You should have made a resolution to not bring stupid arguments with stupid "resources" instead.

But hey, we have Firestorm Killa and ~Rocktar~, you just even the debate sides.

[TheEschaton]

PB, can you for once, try and argue the points raised instead of making ad hominem attacks? Which of the "fibs of Glenn Beck" are untrue?

[TheEschaton]

Oh yeah, I forgot, you're not interested in reading an accurate article from Mediamatters, because that shatters your myth about them being a Soros-funded propoganda machine.

[Stanley Burrell]

I'm not particularly familiar with Media Matters, but if I assume everything said about him is 100% true -- I don't think it makes him culpable of some sort of diabolical crime.

It just seems like the type of political forecasting any shock jock from the right to the left would engage in. Not like I'm ever siding with the guy, but it seems pretty harmless, er? He's just one person.

[Tgo01]

I only got as far as number 13 before I realized how obviously biased the whole list is. Number 13 is Beck's opinion for crying out loud, and to refute Beck's opinion? They just list something Obama said, not what Obama did. How can you possibly call a man a liar for his opinion when the only thing you have to back it up is another mans word?

And keep in mind I don't even like Beck.

[Paradii]

When your opinions are pulled from falsehoods, and you are aired on a network that claims to be news, there is an issue.

[Delias]

How can you possibly call a man a liar for his opinion when the only thing you have to back it up is another mans word?

You play the odds. When I ask the opinion of a known liar, and the opinion of an expert in their field, I generally grant the opinion of the expert more credit.

[Tgo01]

When your opinions are pulled from falsehoods, and you are aired on a network that claims to be news, there is an issue.


You play the odds. When I ask the opinion of a known liar, and the opinion of an expert in their field, I generally grant the opinion of the expert more credit.

When someone you disagree with does something you do not like they are lying douche bags, when someone you agree with does the exact same thing it's okay because you agree with them.

I think I got it now.

[Delias]

When someone you disagree with does something you do not like they are lying douche bags, when someone you agree with does the exact same thing it's okay because you agree with them.

I think I got it now.

You're absolutely right. I don't know how I could see that someone who views everyone who isn't himself as hitler could possibly be a liar or a madman.

[Tgo01]

You're absolutely right. I don't know how I could see that someone who views everyone who isn't himself as hitler could possibly be a liar or a madman.

So that automatically makes everything he says a lie? Like 100% of the time? If he says the sky is blue it's obviously a lie? Come on. Can't you see Mediamatters and yourself are acting exactly like Beck and his fans?

[Delias]

So that automatically makes everything he says a lie? Like 100% of the time? If he says the sky is blue it's obviously a lie? Come on. Can't you see Mediamatters and yourself are acting exactly like Beck and his fans?

Like I said, you play the odds. If I know someone has lied to me before, I expect them to lie to me again.

[Tgo01]

Like I said, you play the odds. If I know someone has lied to me before, I expect them to lie to me again.

Obama has lied numerous times too. What odds do you play now? Whoever has played the most? And of course none of this has anything to even do with my original statement which was how can they possibly go on Obamas word alone that he made the oil spill his number one priority? Some actual evidence to back up his claim would have been nice.

[Delias]

Obama has lied numerous times too. What odds do you play now? Whoever has played the most?

Whoever has the evidence on their side. Global warming. That is all.

[Drew]

You've never ever used a partisan source and argued that the posted facts outweigh the bias ever I'm sure.

How is that an argument? "I won't improve my diet to lower my cholesterol because I saw you eat a doughnut"

I'm sure PB has used biased sources before but that has absolutely no bearing on if this one is or not.


Unless this is some "gotcha" point scoring game that I wasn't aware of.

[Tgo01]

Whoever has the evidence on their side. Global warming. That is all.

What does that have to do with anything at all? Did you even read number 13 in which I am referring to?

[Delias]

What does that have to do with anything at all? Did you even read number 13 in which I am referring to?

Yeah, oil spill, got it. I stopped caring about this almost immediately, and am bored with it now. Fuck politics, fuck politicians, fuck news, and fuck newscasters. Peace, bitches, I'm out.

[Back]

Willful ignorance is incurable.

[Delias]

Willful ignorance is incurable.

Ignorance is bliss.

[TheEschaton]

Can you name some specific times Obama lied? If you start your sentence with "birth certificate", you lose.

-TheE-

[Drew]

Can you name some specific times Obama lied? If you start your sentence with "birth certificate", you lose.

-TheE-

He hasn't lied about his birth certificate because it's never been released.

[BriarFox]

Some of you guys are killing me here. Here's my interpretations (some of which are different from the MediaMatters responses):

15. Beck implies that the Fed is dishonest (in some unspecified fashion) with its profits. Reality: Any profits are returned to the Treasury.

14. Tax dollars fund "offensive" Smithsonian Exhibit. MediaMatters: Smithsonian doesn't use any public funds for staging exhibits. There's some hedging here.

13. Beck alleges Obama put green energy efforts ahead of stopping the oil spill and that it wasn't his top priority. Reality: Obama states it was his top priority (and was very attentive to it). MM doesn't really provide any evidence for it being Obama's top priority other than his statements to that fact, but there's plenty of articles and clips online about his response, which we should all remember. Beck himself has no evidence at all.

12. Beck states that the Fed is sending trillions of dollars to Europe. Reality: U.S. contributes to IMF fund, which capped its total assistance to Europe at $250B.

11. Beck misquotes Soros, nine years after the fact and out of context.

10. Beck states that capital gains taxes would affect everyone with a 401k. Reality: Only if they made over $200k filing individually or $250k jointly.

9. Beck questions imam's peaceful and moderate leanings because one of his employees blamed 9/11 on Jews nine years earlier.

8. Beck tries to portray Soros as manipulating Obama and Congress to support "new" cap and trade legislation right after Obama took office, but such legislation had been discussed for 10 years and Obama supported it during the 2008 election.

7. Beck claims there's been zero global warming for more than the last decade. Reality: The last decade is the hottest on record. Plenty of room for debate here, but it's a lengthy argument. Let's go with the huge international panel of scientists who agree that global warming exists rather than Beck, hm?

6. Obama's trip to India would cost $2B. Reality: White House won't debunk figures for security reasons, but calls them "wildly inflated." Seriously, $2B? Why not just claim it was $20B?

5. Beck states Obama is trying to pass a total fishing ban, "no more fishing." Reality: Beck is a fear-mongering retard.

4. Beck claims Obama administration lent $2B to Petrobras Oil in Brazil to strengthen Soros's investment in it. Reality: The loan was for the purchase of American goods and services, and it had nothing to do with Obama; rather, it was unanimously approved by import/export bankers appointed by Bush.

3. Beck claims Wilmington, OH hasn't taken any stimulus money. Reality: It applied for $63 million and got a handful of it.

2. Soros was responsible for stealing Jews' property as part of Nazi regime. Reality: His mentor, who illicitly adopted him as his godson, was cataloguing the possessions of a Jewish aristocrat who'd left them behind in a behind-the-scenes deal to ensure his own escape and took the 13-year-old Soros with him under a fake name to protect him.

1. Beck claims Fox would fire him if he lied.

As you can see from many of these comments, Beck is often wrong, and when he's not flat-out wrong, he exaggerates the issues and implies that far more is going on than actually is. Media Matters occasionally exaggerates issues itself, but the quotes are clear enough if you bother to look at them. Media Matters is clearly biased toward Soros considering the number of points about him it wants to clear up, but the facts are still quite lucid.

[Parkbandit]

Oh yeah, I forgot, you're not interested in reading an accurate article from Mediamatters, because that shatters your myth about them being a Soros-funded propoganda machine.

No, I'm all about reading an accurate article from mediamatters. Link one.

[Warriorbird]

How is that an argument? "I won't improve my diet to lower my cholesterol because I saw you eat a doughnut"

I'm sure PB has used biased sources before but that has absolutely no bearing on if this one is or not.


Unless this is some "gotcha" point scoring game that I wasn't aware of.

Likening someone to FK and Rocktar for something you yourself do (don't tell me that PB hasn't cited shit like Newsmax) is pretty hypocritical. I really could care less about the rest of the "point."

[Parkbandit]

Likening someone to FK and Rocktar for something you yourself do (don't tell me that PB hasn't cited shit like Newsmax) is pretty hypocritical. I really could care less about the rest of the "point."

Thank you for proving my point.

You have issues with Newsmax, TheBlaze, etc... and therefore consider them "shit". I hold moveon.org, mediamatters, etc... in the same regard.

Difference is: You are "allowed" to call Newsmax, TheBlaze shit.. but get highly offended when I do the same with moveon.org and mediamatters.

If there is a hypocrite here, it's you and other leftist "thinking" people like you.

[Delias]

Thank you for proving my point.

You have issues with Newsmax, TheBlaze, etc... and therefore consider them "shit". I hold moveon.org, mediamatters, etc... in the same regard.

Difference is: You are "allowed" to call Newsmax, TheBlaze shit.. but get highly offended when I do the same with moveon.org and mediamatters.

If there is a hypocrite here, it's you and other leftist "thinking" people like you.

I don't think thinking people choose sides before hearing the issue and viewing the research based on what their party says they should choose. Does that make me a commie pinko leftist?

[IorakeWarhammer]

Thanks for proving my point guys

[Parkbandit]

I don't think thinking people choose sides before hearing the issue and viewing the research based on what their party says they should choose. Does that make me a commie pinko leftist?

What is it you are trying to say. Think before you post.. then try again.

[Tgo01]

Can you name some specific times Obama lied? If you start your sentence with "birth certificate", you lose.

-TheE-

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/barack-obama/statements/byruling/barely-true/

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/barack-obama/statements/byruling/false/

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/barack-obama/statements/byruling/pants-fire/

[IorakeWarhammer]

Obama? uhh that's easy

"I'm against the war in Afghanistan, I'm going to pull our troops out!"

[Parkbandit]

Obama? uhh that's easy

"I'm against the war in Afghanistan, I'm going to pull our troops out!"

You don't even troll well. Can you site the source of that exact quote?

[IorakeWarhammer]

You're right, I was trolling. In fact, Barack Obama is actually carrying out the Neocon agenda for Afghanistan and Pakistan.

"Q: You said back in August you would go into western Pakistan if you had actionable intelligence to go after it, whether or not the Pakistani government agreed. Do you stand by that?
A: I absolutely do stand by it. We should do everything in our power to push and cooperate with the Pakistani government in taking on Al Qaida, which is now based in northwest Pakistan. And what we know from our national intelligence estimates is that Al Qaida is stronger now than at any time since 2001. And so, back in August, I said we should work with the Pakistani government, first of all to encourage democracy in Pakistan so you’ve got a legitimate government, and secondly that we have to press them to do more to take on Al Qaida in their territory; and if they could not or would not do so, and we had actionable intelligence, then I would strike. The two heads of the 9/11 Commission a few months later wrote an editorial saying the exact same thing. I think it’s indisputable that that should be our course." ~ New Hampshire Primary Debate 2008

The fact is all of this left-right bullshit is a joke, Obama is Bush 2.0, and Glenn Beck is just a propagandist who helps create fear and uncertainty. Both parties are the same, they follow 90% of the same agenda, and they make tools like you guys argue about mostly petty issues so you don't see the big picture. It's a big trick and you're falling for it.

[ClydeR]

It's not a lie if it's partly true. I'll address the most important one -- number 14 dealing with cultural issues.

If an art exhibit is in the Smithsonian, then it's at least partially funded with tax dollars. If you don't think that's so, then try building your own museum and see how expensive it is.

[Latrinsorm]

The rule for lying is making a statement you know to be false. Therefore, it doesn't make any sense to accuse Glenn Beck of outright lying. What does make sense is to point out how many of his claims are exaggerations and distortions, and that the direction of these exaggerations always point the same way. Glenn Beck has never exaggerated praise for President Obama, for instance. (Hilariously, if you google "Glenn Beck praises Obama" the sixth result is "Glenn Beck praises God".) It doesn't matter if he's a professional liar, what matters is that he is repeatedly (but by no means always) factually incorrect.

The quoted statements are very well sourced, even hyperlinked. Take #14 - the transcript they give is word for word what he says on the video, and he has a big sign behind him saying "your taxes paid for it". It is not possible to reasonably disregard #14 as a criticism, unless you believe mediamatter has access to some sort of S1m0ne style video generator. This is why ad hominem attacks are silly, PB. It makes even less sense to try and spin your behavior as a criticism of members of the left, because what you're saying is that your being a schmuck is no better or worse than someone else being a schmuck, which necessarily means that you're being a schmuck.

[Parkbandit]

This is why ad hominem attacks are silly, PB. It makes even less sense to try and spin your behavior as a criticism of members of the left, because what you're saying is that your being a schmuck is no better or worse than someone else being a schmuck, which necessarily means that you're being a schmuck.

So mine are ad hominem attacks... but you calling me a schmuck is a-o-k in your little mind, isn't it. You are a real prize... really.

Stick to woman's fashions and general cleaning products if my attacks are too hurtful for you to read, dipshit. Sorry if I hurt your feelings... go have yourself another good cry.

[IorakeWarhammer]

So mine are ad hominem attacks... but you calling me a schmuck is a-o-k in your little mind, isn't it. You are a real prize... really.

Stick to woman's fashions and general cleaning products if my attacks are too hurtful for you to read, dipshit. Sorry if I hurt your feelings... go have yourself another good cry.

OOOOOOOOOOOHHHHH!!!! HE TOLD U!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Warriorbird]

Thank you for proving my point.

You have issues with Newsmax, TheBlaze, etc... and therefore consider them "shit". I hold moveon.org, mediamatters, etc... in the same regard.

Difference is: You are "allowed" to call Newsmax, TheBlaze shit.. but get highly offended when I do the same with moveon.org and mediamatters.

If there is a hypocrite here, it's you and other leftist "thinking" people like you.

I didn't say a thing about you disliking MoveOn or Media Matters. Feel free. Just don't pretend BriarFox is worthy to be lumped with FK and Rocktar for stuff you do yourself. You should actually consider it a compliment. I consider you different than those two.

[Latrinsorm]

So mine are ad hominem attacks... but you calling me a schmuck is a-o-k in your little mind, isn't it. You are a real prize... really.

Stick to woman's fashions and general cleaning products if my attacks are too hurtful for you to read, dipshit. Sorry if I hurt your feelings... go have yourself another good cry.Ad hominem attack doesn't mean insult. The following is a demonstration of how they function differently:

Scenario 1: Mediamatters.org is a schmuck website, therefore what it says is wrong.
Scenario 2: PB is being a schmuck. Also, what he says is wrong, and here is why: [reasons].

Notice how you have again chosen not to address the particulars of the discussion, instead relying solely upon statements of someone else's character. My guess is you don't care at all about Glenn Beck or what he said, though.

[Parkbandit]

Ad hominem attack doesn't mean insult. The following is a demonstration of how they function differently:

Scenario 1: Mediamatters.org is a schmuck website, therefore what it says is wrong.
Scenario 2: PB is being a schmuck. Also, what he says is wrong, and here is why: [reasons].


So, I can call you a fucking idiot, but it's not being an insult because I'm using facts to back it up (your posting history on this forum). Good to know!



Notice how you have again chosen not to address the particulars of the discussion, instead relying solely upon statements of someone else's character.

In my defense, I can't bear to read most of the stupidity you post.. so I probably missed a point you attempted to make in that mountain of retard.



My guess is you don't care at all about Glenn Beck or what he said, though.

Glenn Beck > George Soros but if the 3 of you were in a plane crash and all died, I wouldn't give a shit. Good enough?

[Tgo01]

Ad hominem attack doesn't mean insult.


Scenario 2: PB is being a schmuck. Also, what he says is wrong, and here is why: [reasons].

That's a perfect example of what an ad hominem is, attacking someones character when it has absolutely nothing at all to do with the argument.

[crb]

Glen Beck is not a journalist. He is a sensationalist pundit and broadcasts an opinion show. Fox news does not label him a journalist, he is not an anchor, he is not a reporter. It is clear to anyone with half a brain that this is so. If you're going to call Beck a journalist (or hold him to such a standard) you might as well call all the harpies on The View journalists as well.

Secondly, this thread fails because you list like 15 topics we could (and have in the past) have individual threads on.

Thirdly, if you really want to start cataloging lies, lets go with politicians. You know, people who actually matter.

I'll start...

1. If you like your coverage, you can keep it.

2. If we pass this stimulus, we'll keep unemployment below 8%

3. I was on top of the oil spill from the very beginning.

4. I believe the right to bear arms is an individual right.

[Paradii]

In all honesty, PB, for someone that consistently insults the intelligence of other posters, you come off as an absolute idiot.

[Latrinsorm]

That's a perfect example of what an ad hominem is, attacking someones character when it has absolutely nothing at all to do with the argument.Quite to the contrary. Quite to the contrary! An ad hominem attack is only when it is the argument. When it has nothing to do with the argument, it's just a rude observation.
Glen Beck is not a journalist. He is a sensationalist pundit and broadcasts an opinion show. Fox news does not label him a journalist, he is not an anchor, he is not a reporter. It is clear to anyone with half a brain that this is so. If you're going to call Beck a journalist (or hold him to such a standard) you might as well call all the harpies on The View journalists as well.I'm not sure what you're getting at here. Do you feel that any of the things you said here are relevant to whether Glenn Beck's various claims are factually correct? Millions of people tune into Glenn Beck through various media every day, do you really feel that what he says has less of an impact than what politicians say?

[Tgo01]

Quite to the contrary. Quite to the contrary! An ad hominem attack is only when it is the argument. When it has nothing to do with the argument, it's just a rude observation.

No. You are trying to weaken PB's argument by calling him a schmuck, that is an ad hominem. There are certain situations where attacking someones character makes perfect sense during a debate and are not considered ad hominems. However saying PB is 'acting like a schmuck, also he is wrong, here is why' is indeed an hominem.

[Rinualdo]

No. You are trying to weaken PB's argument by calling him a schmuck, that is an ad hominem. There are certain situations where attacking someones character makes perfect sense during a debate and are not considered ad hominems. However saying PB is 'acting like a schmuck, also he is wrong, here is why' is indeed an hominem.

Saying you shouldn't listen to someone because they are an idiot is ad homonym.
Saying you shouldn't listen to someone because of x, y, and z (where X, Y, and Z refute their argument) and then call them an idiot is not ad homonym.

Ad homonym represents a logical fallacy. As long as there is something relevant to the original point, the fallacy no longer exists and it becomes an observation.

[Parkbandit]

In all honesty, PB, for someone that consistently insults the intelligence of other posters, you come off as an absolute idiot.

This from a functionally retarded fool. Awesome input as usual Paradii. Keep up the fail.

[Parkbandit]

Saying you shouldn't listen to someone because they are an idiot is ad homonym.
Saying you shouldn't listen to someone because of x, y, and z (where X, Y, and Z refute their argument) and then call them an idiot is not ad homonym.

Ad homonym represents a logical fallacy. As long as there is something relevant to the original point, the fallacy no longer exists and it becomes an observation.

You shouldn't listen to Rinualdo, because he is, in fact, an ignorant dumbass.

Like that? So, if I carefully word my insults.. you can't pretend to take some high moral ground you have no business being on?

SWEET!

[Tgo01]

Saying you shouldn't listen to someone because they are an idiot is ad homonym.
Saying you shouldn't listen to someone because of x, y, and z (where X, Y, and Z refute their argument) and then call them an idiot is not ad homonym.

Ad homonym represents a logical fallacy. As long as there is something relevant to the original point, the fallacy no longer exists and it becomes an observation.

Perhaps it's just me because I didn't see Latrinsorm even try to refute what PB said. Here is how the arguments went far as I can tell:


Using mediamatters as a source is as stupid as Firestorm Killa using Theblaze.com.


The quoted statements are very well sourced, even hyperlinked. Take #14 - the transcript they give is word for word what he says on the video, and he has a big sign behind him saying "your taxes paid for it". It is not possible to reasonably disregard #14 as a criticism, unless you believe mediamatter has access to some sort of S1m0ne style video generator. This is why ad hominem attacks are silly, PB. It makes even less sense to try and spin your behavior as a criticism of members of the left, because what you're saying is that your being a schmuck is no better or worse than someone else being a schmuck, which necessarily means that you're being a schmuck.

Playing video clips of Beck and saying "Oh look, he lied" does not mean they are not pushing an agenda and aren't trying to skew some of the 'facts' in their favor, just as the fine folks over at Theblaze.com do.

[Stanley Burrell]

All these motherfuckers are just one motherfucker. You need at least ... six legitimate motherfuckers to spurn an Internet who's right/wrong-fest. Motherfuckers just don't roll solo anymore and if they do, they better be wearing bulletproof.

[Tgo01]

All these motherfuckers are just one motherfucker. You need at least ... six legitimate motherfuckers to spurn an Internet who's right/wrong-fest. Motherfuckers just don't roll solo anymore and if they do, they better be wearing bulletproof.

Have I told you lately how much I love you?

[4a6c1]

I think what this thread needs is a circlejerk.

:grouphug:

[~Rocktar~]

PB, can you for once, try and argue the points raised instead of making ad hominem attacks? Which of the "fibs of Glenn Beck" are untrue?

Why would you hold anyone else to a higher standard than yourself?

[Tgo01]

I think what this thread needs is a circlejerk.

:grouphug:

Well get the ball rolling.

[Androidpk]

I think what this thread needs is a circlejerk.

:grouphug:

I'll start.

You finish.

[Latrinsorm]

Playing video clips of Beck and saying "Oh look, he lied" does not mean they are not pushing an agenda and aren't trying to skew some of the 'facts' in their favor, just as the fine folks over at Theblaze.com do.As I said in my first post, I disagree with their conclusions and general rhetorical strategy, but that doesn't change the facts they cite. Whether Glenn Beck said (for instance) that an exhibit at the Smithsonian was funded by taxpayers is a matter of fact, one they establish with video of him saying exactly that. If you feel the conclusions they draw based on these facts are a result of skew or agenda, throw the conclusions out, of course! What's beyond me is how anyone can throw the facts themselves out because of what someone else concludes from them.

As I said in a later post, however, I'm pretty sure PB's original intent was only to highlight what he feels is a hypocrisy amongst the left. I don't really think he put that much thought into what he was saying.

[Parkbandit]

As I said in a later post, however, I'm pretty sure PB's original intent was only to highlight what he feels is a hypocrisy amongst the left. I don't really think he put that much thought into what he was saying.

I highlight it.. you illustrate perfectly.

[Revial]

Wait wait wait, are you telling me that people lie in the media? When the fuck did this start happening?

[IorakeWarhammer]

So, I can call you a fucking idiot, but it's not being an insult because I'm using facts to back it up (your posting history on this forum). Good to know!



In my defense, I can't bear to read most of the stupidity you post.. so I probably missed a point you attempted to make in that mountain of retard.



Glenn Beck > George Soros but if the 3 of you were in a plane crash and all died, I wouldn't give a shit. Good enough?



OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HE TOLD U!!!!!!!!

[Firestorm Killa]

PB, can you for once, try and argue the points raised instead of making ad hominem attacks? Which of the "fibs of Glenn Beck" are untrue?

You mean besides the fact that media matters received millions of dollars from George Soros to try and discredit and get, Fox news and Glenn beck off the air?

[Firestorm Killa]

Using mediamatters as a source is as stupid as Firestorm Killa using Theblaze.com.

Stop being that guy.

The blaze for your information, is a neutral news organization which does not post opinions, just stories. Fucking Libtard.

[~Rocktar~]

I could say a lot of things about PB but him being Liberal isn't one of them. Maybe moderate on some things but not Liberal. He pretty much is the anti-Clove/anti-theE except for one important point. Most all the time, he makes rational sense and can back his argument with something other than touchy feely bullshit flavored pablum.

[Warriorbird]

I could say a lot of things about PB but him being Liberal isn't one of them. Maybe moderate on some things but not Liberal. He pretty much is the anti-Clove/anti-theE except for one important point. Most all the time, he makes rational sense and can back his argument with something other than touchy feely bullshit flavored pablum.

I wouldn't exactly call Clove liberal.

[Rinualdo]

I could say a lot of things about PB but him being Liberal isn't one of them. Maybe moderate on some things but not Liberal. He pretty much is the anti-Clove/anti-theE except for one important point. Most all the time, he makes rational sense and can back his argument with something other than touchy feely bullshit flavored pablum.


I wouldn't exactly call Clove liberal.

I wouldn't call PB rational either.

[Parkbandit]

The blaze for your information, is a neutral news organization which does not post opinions, just stories. Fucking Libtard.

Wait.. so Soros is the money behind mediamatters and of course it's crazy liberal slanted... but Beck is the money behind theblaze and you consider it a neutral news organization?

You are a fucking lunatic.

[Parkbandit]

I wouldn't call PB rational either.

Of course you wouldn't... because you disagree with me politically, therefore it's not "rational" in your little mind.

[Rinualdo]

Of course you wouldn't... because you disagree with me politically, therefore it's not "rational" in your little mind.

Lots of people I disagree with. Unfortunately, you rarely defend your position or quote a source, and almost always insult insult those who disagree with you.

That's not rational; its childish.

[Showal]

The blaze for your information, is a neutral news organization which does not post opinions, just stories. Fucking Libtard.

Quoted from Theblaze.com


The Blaze is a news, information and opinion site brought to you by Glenn Beck and a dedicated team of writers, journalists & video producers.

Our goal is to post, report and analyze stories of interest on a wide range of topics from politics and culture to faith and family.


If you read their articles (which I know you do because I have seen you quote theblaze, verbatim, as your own arguments), you will find them filled with opinions, not just stories. For your information, The Blaze does not make any attempt to be a neutral news organization and they don't claim to.

Come on, Donnie. Please go and look up the definition of big words, such as neutral, before you try to use them.

[Parkbandit]

Lots of people I disagree with. Unfortunately, you rarely defend your position or quote a source, and almost always insult insult those who disagree with you.

Do you have any sources for that statement.. or are you talking out of your ass as usual?



That's not rational; its childish.

:rofl: Irony and hypocricy all rolled into one.

[IorakeWarhammer]

I wouldn't call PB rational either.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_785QaU5Lgvg/SSpHNTvhLQI/AAAAAAAABas/b1eNdA6EIAc/s400/YouGotServed.jpg

OHHHHHHHHH!!!!! U GOT SERVED!!!! OOOOHHH!!

:moon2:

[Firestorm Killa]

Lots of people I disagree with. Unfortunately, you rarely defend your position or quote a source, and almost always insult insult those who disagree with you.

That's not rational; its childish.

Everytime I seen him argue with everyone he does defend his position and quotes sources. I'll give PB that which is more then I can say about you and the rest of the liberal dick suckers.

[Parkbandit]

Everytime I seen him argue with everyone he does defend his position and quotes sources. I'll give PB that which is more then I can say about you and the rest of the liberal dick suckers.

...

[Ryvicke]

Hi PB,

Politics thread cheat-sheet: when FK defends you, you're wrong.

Yours,
Ryvicke

[Parkbandit]

Hi PB,

Politics thread cheat-sheet: when FK defends you, you're wrong.

Yours,
Ryvicke

I concede.

:(

[Tgo01]

Such power FK wields. Let us hope he uses it for good.

[Cephalopod]

I concede.

:(

Quoting for posterity.

[Showal]

Hi PB,

Politics thread cheat-sheet: when FK defends you, you're wrong.

Yours,
Ryvicke

I need to know if FK is right about the rest of us being liberal dick suckers?? Is he?

[IorakeWarhammer]

http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2010/4/14/129157480399137911.gif

If you're a fan of this person you're.. "special"

[Atlanteax]

http://www.cagle.com/news/ByeByeBeck/images/beeler.jpg

http://www.cagle.com/news/ByeByeBeck/images/britt.jpg

[Gan]

Saw on a news article that GB made $32m last year.

[Atlanteax]

Saw on a news article that GB made $32m last year.

Well, he gets to retire comfortably then.

[Gan]

I heard he's looking into creating his own network.

[Rinualdo]

I heard he killed someone.