GOP to Amend Constitution to Allow Deportation of Illegals Born in US

[ClydeR]

The immigration debate is reviving the explosive idea of denying citizenship to children born on U.S. soil if their parents are in the country illegally.

A U.S. senator and a state lawmaker in Arizona, both central players in the battle over immigration law, separately proposed this week that "birthright" citizenship be denied to the children of illegal immigrants. They said the change would help stem the flood of illegal border crossings.

"People come here to have babies. They come here to drop a child," Sen. Lindsey Graham (R., S.C.) said Wednesday night on Fox News. "That shouldn't be the case. That attracts people here for all the wrong reasons." Mr. Graham is a onetime partner with Democrats in crafting a proposed overhaul of immigration laws.

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In Arizona, Republican state Sen. Russell Pearce, the architect of the immigration law that drew a legal challenge from the Obama administration, said he wanted to deny U.S. citizenship to children born in his state to illegal immigrants.


Mr. Graham, speaking on Fox, suggested that changing birthright-citizenship rules would require a constitutional amendment. "We should change our Constitution and say if you come here illegally and have a child, that child's not automatically a citizen," he said.

He said he was considering introducing such an amendment. A spokesman said Thursday that Mr. Graham was just discussing the idea and hadn't made any decisions about whether to move ahead.

If we change -- I would say "clarify" -- the law in this way, I don't think it will be too hard to identify people who are living here but not really citizens just because they were born here. Some of them may be adults now with their own illegal children. The easiest way to identify them would be to require them to produce their birth certificate showing that both of their parents were citizens.

Certain People may say it would be unworkable to identify and deport anchor babies. Borrowing from Obama, I say "Yes we can!"

[IorakeWarhammer]

if this is the case just deport anyone that came to the continent in the past 500 years

[Back]

I wonder if the warning signs of what Germany went through were similar?

[Rocktar]

I don't have a problem with a child being born here and becoming a citizen. I do have a problem with that being the impetus to bring a family of 12 and extended family members into the US on a free pass.

[Clove]

I don't have a problem with a male child being born here and becoming a citizen.Fixed.

[Rinualdo]

This is old news.
Your headline is misleading.

[Inspire]

I wonder if the warning signs of what Germany went through were similar?


So Jewish people being slaughtered is the same thing as sending illegal immigrants back to their own country?

[TheThirdEye]

So Jewish people being slaughtered is the same thing as sending illegal immigrants back to their own country?

Back is referring to the warning signs before Germany became a fascist state. Nobody would consider the concentration camps warning signs but they are what happens when warning signs go unheeded.

Pastor Martin Niemöller expressed the sentiment best:


They came first for the Communists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist.

Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew.

Then they came for me
and by that time no one was left to speak up.

Although Niemöller was referring to the lethargy of German intellectuals as the Nazi's rose to power I believe it can be applied to the draconian tactics the GOP has been taking of late to address illegal (read latino) immigration.

I think this kind of crap is the last roar of the soon to be extinct dinasours in the GOP. Let them scream and fear monger all they want. Latinos are multiplying in America at a rate that is alarming to the GOP but it is too late now for them to do anything about that.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2008-02-11-population-study_N.htm

The truth is that these politicians are stupid and lazy. They have no idea how to solve unemployment problems while still keeping the political contributions from big business coming in. Solution? Blame the beaners!

I challenge anyone in favor of these idiotic immigration reforms to do the labor of an undocumented worker for one day. Let's see if you still think they are taking jobs away from hard working Americans after 12 hours of picking vegetables or busing tables or landscaping estates or scrubbing toilets or other shit jobs we don't want to do.

[Gan]

I wonder if the warning signs of what Germany went through were similar?

I can't believe you're comparing this to the Holocost.

Then again, this is you we're talking about - I guess I can belive it.

Wow you're a retard.

[IorakeWarhammer]

I think it's only evidence of ClydeR being the most overrated troll in internet history

[IorakeWarhammer]

HOW CAN U BE A GOOD TROLL WITH GOOD REP? YOU FUCKIN CLOWN!!!

<TROLL JEALOUSY!!!!!>

[ClydeR]

This is old news.

Well Senator Graham announced his plan to amend the Constitution yesterday, making this news one day old.


Your headline is misleading.

How so?

[ClydeR]

I wonder if the warning signs of what Germany went through were similar?

I win!

[Gan]

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[Rinualdo]

Well Senator Graham announced his plan to amend the Constitution yesterday, making this news one day old.



How so?

I'll bite.


Clearly Sen Graham was speaking about a way to solve a problem and not an agenda item for the Republicans, which your headline clearly suggests. He didn't announce a plan, and neither political party would alienate as many voters as this suggestion would. It also would clearly not withstand the ratification process.

[Rocktar]

I challenge anyone in favor of these idiotic immigration reforms to do the labor of an undocumented worker for one day. Let's see if you still think they are taking jobs away from hard working Americans after 12 hours of picking vegetables or busing tables or landscaping estates or scrubbing toilets or other shit jobs we don't want to do.


In the 50's and 60's and before, just who do you think did those jobs? And why do you think that those crappy jobs are only done by illegals? I can assure you that there are plenty of American citizens of all ethnic backgrounds and social classes that still do those crappy jobs every day to support their families and themselves. I added emphasis to the important statement here, "don't want to do" as it is the root of the problem. The current generation is the most spoiled, lazy and selfish generation of Americans the world has ever seen as a whole. It really isn't their fault though, they were raised by the second most spoiled, lazy and selfish generation who grew up with the pie in the sky when you die ideals of Liberalism and Doctor Spock on raising children in the most affluent level of society every seen on the planet.

In general they and the current generation barely know hardship, don't know starvation and rampant disease and always had some kind of moderately easy job to occupy their time and fill their pockets. They grew up with the idea that companies "owe" them a good paycheck, time off, vacation, and full retirement and they are the ones that have propagated this idea of entitlement for nearly 40 years now because America could, for the most part, afford it. Margret Thatcher once said "Socialism is great until you run out of other people's money to spend." Well, the check is due, we are out of money and the stifling taxes and regulation on top of the culture of entitlement and selfishness has brought us to the brink of ruin.

Mexico is a shit hole almost all over. They have Socialized industry, high taxes, and if they basically didn't have a slave class of workers to fuel their economy, they would have collapsed years ago. Those slave workers come to America illegally and work hard, that is true and likely less hard than they would in Mexico and they support families doing it. That is a great thing, strong work ethic and desire to support your family. What is not a great thing is the complete unwillingness of so many to do so legally, to assimilate and fit in. Instead, we have large masses of people from Mexico, and other countries, taking over neighborhoods, refusing to speak English, demanding full social services and all the while, refusing to obey the law and participate in American society.

Yes, we need immigration reform and we should have a way to have immigrant workers who want to work here and not become citizens. NO, we should not ignore our current laws and allow those here to continue to do so. And NO we should not bend over backward, have everything in multiple languages and over burden our social support systems to let them come here and live comfortably while remaining felons. And make no mistake, if you are here without having followed the proper procedures, no matter your excuse, no matter your origin, you are breaking the law and you are a felon.

[Clove]

In the 50's and 60's and before, just who do you think did those jobs? And why do you think that those crappy jobs are only done by illegals?African Americans.

[Rocktar]

African Americans.

Actually, in the South maybe, in the west and California, no (specifically referring to agricultural workers). Besides, I don't care what background you may have while working in America as long as you are either:

A: American and doing so legally.
B: Legally an immigrant not yet fully Naturalized, a resident alien or other classification such as those seeking asylum and doing so legally.

[ClydeR]

McConnell joins the growing call to deport people whose parents were not citizens.


Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) told The Hill on Monday that Congress “ought to take a look at” changing the 14th Amendment, which gives the children of illegal immigrants a right to U.S. citizenship.

McConnell’s statement signals growing support within the GOP for the controversial idea, which has also recently been touted by Senate Minority Whip Jon Kyl (R-Ariz.) and Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.).

In an interview, McConnell said the 14th Amendment provision should be reconsidered in light of the country’s immigration problem. McConnell stopped short of echoing Graham’s call for repeal of the amendment.

“I think we ought to take a look at it — hold hearings, listen to the experts on it,” McConnell said. “I haven’t made a final decision about it, but that’s something that we clearly need to look at. Regardless of how you feel about the various aspects of immigration reform, I don’t think anybody thinks that’s something they’re comfortable with.”

More... (http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/112287--mcconnell-congress-ought-to-take-a-look-at-altering-immigration-law)

[Cephalopod]

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FUCK THAT CONSTITUTION IN THE ASS

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