Is Newt Gingrich a Genius?

[ClydeR]

He may not be a bonafide genius, but there can be no doubt that Gingrich is very, very smart. He explained the Ground Zero mosque controversy in a way that I never even considered.


"There should be no mosque near Ground Zero in New York so long as there are no churches or synagogues in Saudi Arabia. The time for double standards that allow Islamists to behave aggressively toward us while they demand our weakness and submission is over.

“The proposed "Cordoba House" overlooking the World Trade Center site – where a group of jihadists killed over 3,000 Americans and destroyed one of our most famous landmarks - is a test of the timidity, passivity and historic ignorance of American elites. For example, most of them don’t understand that “Cordoba House” is a deliberately insulting term. It refers to Cordoba, Spain – the capital of Muslim conquerors who symbolized their victory over the Christian Spaniards by transforming a church there into the world’s third-largest mosque complex.

“Today, some of the Mosque’s backers insist this term is being used to "symbolize interfaith cooperation" when, in fact, every Islamist in the world recognizes Cordoba as a symbol of Islamic conquest. It is a sign of their contempt for Americans and their confidence in our historic ignorance that they would deliberately insult us this way. . . .

More... (http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2010/07/29/james-pinkerton-world-trade-centre-arizona-alqaeda-wikileaks-ground-zero-mosque/)

Now that I have considered Gingrich's opinion on this vitally important subject, I am more convinced than ever that we need to stop the Ground Zero mosque. As Gingrich said, it's a double standard to allow both Christian churches and Muslim mosques in America when only Muslim mosques, but not Christian churches, are allowed in Saudi Arabia.

Until now I didn't think Gingrich could be President, but I'm starting to rethink it. A Palin-Gingrich ticket sounds pretty good.

Muslims and Mexicans. Those are the main reasons you should vote Republican.

[IorakeWarhammer]

gingrich is a tool LMAO.

your trolling is boring

[IorakeWarhammer]

As Gingrich said, it's a double standard to allow both Christian churches and Muslim mosques in America when only Muslim mosques, but not Christian churches, are allowed in Saudi Arabia.





yes, and we should be comparing ourselves to a religious monarchy? we don't need to act like we're on that level. this is a tolerant country. drawing that comparison in order to garner votes for republicans is a joke. Palin is braindead - if you're seriously considering her for any other position than coffee dispersal technician then you're a fucking retard.

[Back]

That we allow freedom of religion, among other things, is precisely what makes us great. Newt wants to take away our freedoms.

[Rinualdo]

No one wants a Gingrich/Palin ticket more then Obama.

[RichardCranium]

In a word: I don't know, maybe. He is one handsome devil though.

[ClydeR]

No one wants a Gingrich/Palin ticket more then Obama.

I didn't say Gingrich/Palin. I said Palin/Gingrich.

[Atlanteax]

I didn't say Gingrich/Palin. I said Palin/Gingrich.

ClydeR somehow achieved a "high" that surpassed any of Backlash's.

Will wonders never cease?

[m444w]

I'd rather have Snickers from the Jersey Shore as president than Palin. Atleast she can take a punch.

[Parkbandit]

No one wants a Gingrich/Palin ticket more then Obama.

This.

Only thing worse would be a McCain / Graham or McCain / Spector ticket.........

[Cephalopod]

Paul / Palin 2012!

[Rocktar]

That we allow freedom of religion, among other things, is precisely what makes us great. Newt wants to take away our freedoms.

And there aren't laws that prohibit the construction of churches and synagogues in certain places for historic, memorial or civic reasons?

[Cephalopod]

And there aren't laws that prohibit the construction of churches and synagogues in certain places for historic, memorial or civic reasons?

Source?

[Rocktar]

Since you have to have a building permit and appropriate zoning, I would figure that there are places that don't fit the requirements, so, you can't build a church there. Deductive reasoning for those of you without a brain.

I am also pretty sure you can't build anything on a National Battlefield or Park and so on.

[Clove]

I don't have a source. I don't need a source. You will be compelled to believe me or UR stoopid!! I'm Capt. LUNN goddamit!Fixed.

[sst]

Take it from somebody who has become fairly anti-religion-of-peace. Its poor form for them to build a mosque there. Should the U.S. government be stopping it? No. Freedom of religion is one of the many things that makes this country greater than all the others.

Additionally, Palin is a R-tard, with a capital R.

[IorakeWarhammer]

i think you're just anti-fucked-up-things-muslims-do

[sst]

No, IW, I'm not. A religion who's "profit" marries prepubescent girls, is not a religion I support. Nor is one which is, was, and continues to be spread by the sword/violence.

Lets also not forget Muhammad and Safiyah, whom Muhammad killed the father, husband, and relatives and then raped the girl the same day... oh sorry "marry" her...

[Rocktar]

I am an attention whoring male child who needs to over compensate for my weak spine and insignificant job, please give me the attention I crave so that I can feel somewhat adequate.

~pats you on the head~ Good boy, now run along.

[CrystalTears]

I am an attention whoring male child who needs to over compensate for my weak spine and insignificant job, please give me the attention I crave so that I can feel somewhat adequate.
Fixed.

[Rocktar]

I am a dumb cunt and add nothing to any conversation here other than wasted space. Please pay attention to me and my pathetic attempts at attention whoring.

Sure is.

[CrystalTears]

The irony. Everything you accuse everyone else of you are guilty of yourself. Just hang it up already.

[TheEschaton]

No, IW, I'm not. A religion who's "profit" marries prepubescent girls, is not a religion I support. Nor is one which is, was, and continues to be spread by the sword/violence.

Lets also not forget Muhammad and Safiyah, whom Muhammad killed the father, husband, and relatives and then raped the girl the same day... oh sorry "marry" her...

Most of Europe married prepubescent girls too, at the time of Mohammed. Christianity was spread by the sword or violence, they coined the phrase "convert or die". King David sent a married woman's husband to die so he could rape, oh, I'm sorry, marry her.

[sst]

I don't uphold them as idols for me to emulate my life after, as Muslims uphold Muhammad.

Most Europeans did not marry 6 year olds like Muhammad.

The crusades were not about the spread of Christianity, they were a way for a corrupt church to fill its coffers. Apostasy is death in Islam, as written in their book, and as the Quran goes, so goes Islam. So lets not compare apples and oranges

[TheEschaton]

You're the one comparing the lifestyle of a guy who lived a thousand years ago to Muslims today.

[IorakeWarhammer]

just call me the hijacker because every thread becomes mine LMAO

[IorakeWarhammer]

Muhammad consumated his marriage with Aishaa when she was 15. they were married earlier than that. she was his best friend's daughter, and she loved him dearly. when he died, she was considered the greatest female scholar in Islam. so you reducing that relationship to be based on the intention of physicality is a bit off.

[IorakeWarhammer]

I don't uphold them as idols for me to emulate my life after, as Muslims uphold Muhammad.

Most Europeans did not marry 6 year olds like Muhammad.

The crusades were not about the spread of Christianity, they were a way for a corrupt church to fill its coffers. Apostasy is death in Islam, as written in their book, and as the Quran goes, so goes Islam. So lets not compare apples and oranges

most people hold their whims as their idol and they worship them devoutedly. even i have an issue with that. if you're using the crusades in this example, then remember that many "new muslims" that participated in the Muslim conquests also had corrupt intentions. but the religion must be allowed to be practiced anywhere on earth. where a ruler prevents it, he shall be fought. it's a religious freedom issue really. the moors were messing with the northern Mediterranean coast long before the Muslims came. The Muslims simply enabled them to expand on their piracy, the good intention "hijacked," if you will. but so what? Spain was conquered and thus seeded the modern renaissance.

the question is, who spreads their religion by the sword now? i would say that the religion of democracy is being spread by the sword in Asia.

[Keller]

Aishaa sounds like a whore.

[sst]

You're the one comparing the lifestyle of a guy who lived a thousand years ago to Muslims today.

TheE.

Muslims are supposed to emulate their lives after the life of Muhammad. He is held on a pedestal to all that is good and right for a Male to be.

Just as Christians are supposed to emulate themselves after Jesus, who is held on a pedestal to all that is good and right for a person to be.

Please look at that objectively and don't just disagree with me to disagree. Do you not see a difference between the two?

[IorakeWarhammer]

Most of Europe married prepubescent girls too, at the time of Mohammed. Christianity was spread by the sword or violence, they coined the phrase "convert or die". King David sent a married woman's husband to die so he could rape, oh, I'm sorry, marry her.

it is illegal under shariah law for a woman to be married before she begins her menstrual cycle. so, if she can bear child, she is technically allowed to marry.

[sst]

most people hold their whims as their idol and they worship them devoutedly. even i have an issue with that. if you're using the crusades in this example, then remember that many "new muslims" that participated in the Muslim conquests also had corrupt intentions. but the religion must be allowed to be practiced anywhere on earth. where a ruler prevents it, he shall be fought. it's a religious freedom issue really.

Oh don't worry. I would never say that the Crusades were one sided. The reason for the Crusades in the first place was muslim aggression. The initial one was fought for defence and then turned into conquest. Subsequent Crusades were abuse of power by the Church. To clearify my views on the subject.

If it is about religious freedom IW, why is apostasy death under yours?

[sst]

it is illegal under shariah law for a woman to be married before she begins her menstrual cycle. so, if she can bear child, she is technically allowed to marry.

So Muhammad broke Shariah law. Got it.
What was his punishment?

Oh what is that? Allah gave Muhammad an exemption?!

Ohh I see.... The only man who can hear the word of Allah got an exemption to break the law and marry a 6 or 7 year old.

GOT IT!

[IorakeWarhammer]

i responded to this silliness above

[sst]

i responded to this silliness above

Yes, yes, you stated that it was against the law. So why was it acceptable in the Quran when Muhammad did it?

[IorakeWarhammer]

If it is about religious freedom IW, why is apostasy death under yours?

..its not. people leave Islam all of the time and nothing happens to them. tons of people neglect required prayers, fasting, etc, and they are doing just fine.

If people leave Islam and then becomes anti-Islam and wages jihad of the hand or pen or sword against Muslims then the penalty is death. This is divine law and perhaps something beyond the scope of your arrogant mind.

[IorakeWarhammer]

Yes, yes, you stated that it was against the law. So why was it acceptable in the Quran when Muhammad did it?

OMG I R UNDER ATTACK!! U CATCH ME IN CONTRADICTION!!! U R UBER RELIGIOUS SCHOLARZ!! U R ARABIC EXPERT!!

<TUCK TAIL UNDER LEGZ N FLEE!!>

[Warriorbird]

..its not. people leave Islam all of the time and nothing happens to them. tons of people neglect required prayers, fasting, etc, and they are doing just fine.

If people leave Islam and then becomes anti-Islam and wages jihad of the hand or pen or sword against Muslims then the penalty is death. This is divine law and perhaps something beyond the scope of your arrogant mind.

So... you think it's good that people try to kill Salman Rushdie. Awesome.

[IorakeWarhammer]

if you're really looking for clarity on this issue i could send you some more information in sha Allah. if you cared to understand I think you would see that Aisha was in love with him and was a teenager when she consummated the marriage.

[Warriorbird]

So you'd be totally cool if you and your wife's kid fell in love (got kidnapped by, what's the difference) with some old dude and got married but waited until she was 13 before she slept with him? Awesome.

[IorakeWarhammer]

if my daughter fell in love with my best friend and he was the most honorable man I had ever known...

someone I had spent my entire life working with in business...

someone that when we hid for our lives in a cave from the infidels who persecuted us only for our religion, I tore my shirt to plug the spider holes and endured bites and scratches in order to vie for his safety...

someone that I gave my entire life savings to promote his cause..

someone that brought me from being starved by my own people to being one of the most legendary and respected men in world history..

then I would not flinch at the idea of him marrying my daughter, especially after the fact that she was overjoyed at the idea and cared for him deeply..


but yes, carry on with your little game, because you NEED that misinformation in order to discredit something that you have little understanding of yet hate with a passion.

[Warriorbird]

if my daughter fell in love with my best friend and he was the most honorable man I had ever known...

someone I had spent my entire life working with in business...

someone that when we hid for our lives in a cave from the infidels who persecuted us only for our religion, I tore my shirt to plug the spider holes and endured bites and scratches in order to vie for his safety...

someone that I gave my entire life savings to promote his cause..

someone that brought me from being starved by my own people to being one of the most legendary and respected men in world history..

then I would not flinch at the idea of him marrying my daughter, especially after the fact that she was overjoyed at the idea and cared for him deeply..


but yes, carry on with your little game, because you NEED that misinformation in order to discredit something that you have little understanding of yet hate with a passion.

I've never hated Islam. You must have me confused with someone else. Now, make fun of the ill-informed judging everyone or conspiracy theories? I LIKE doing that.

[IorakeWarhammer]

hehe

[Drew]

..its not. people leave Islam all of the time and nothing happens to them. tons of people neglect required prayers, fasting, etc, and they are doing just fine.

"The Cairo appeals court in 1995 and then, in 1996, Egypt's highest judicial authority, the Court of Cassation, found Nasr Hamid Abu Zayd, an Egyptian professor of Islamic studies and Arabic rhetoric at the University of Cairo, guilty of apostasy--that is, of forsaking the Islamic religion and community. Apostasy trials against professors, intellectuals, artists, and writers were by no means rare in the Arab world of the 1980s and 1990s, and their number dramatically increased during these two decades. I will mention only some of the most prominent cases: in 1985 the Muslim reformer Muhammad Mahmud Taha was executed in Sudan. (1) In 1986, a Yemenite professor of sociology, Hamud al-'Awdi, was sentenced by a Yemeni court to a capital punishment that could only have been invalidated by the court if Professor al-'Awdi had revoked the statements that the court held to be irreconcilable with Islam. Professor al-'Awdi escaped execution by fleeing to Syria and other Arab states (Al-'Awdi, 1989).

Since the mid-1980s, the number of apostasy cases pending before state courts has constantly grown in Sudan, Egypt, and Yemen. The most recent case in Iran is that of Professor Hashem Aghajari, who has been condemned to death because he suggested that the Iranians should not blindly follow their religious leaders (see "Iran Student Movement," 2002)."

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m2267/is_3_70/ai_110737774/

[TheThirdEye]

Racist, hypocrite, childish, there are many words would describe Newt.

Genius is not among them.

[sst]

if my daughter fell in love with my best friend and he was the most honorable man I had ever known...

someone I had spent my entire life working with in business...

someone that when we hid for our lives in a cave from the infidels who persecuted us only for our religion, I tore my shirt to plug the spider holes and endured bites and scratches in order to vie for his safety...

someone that I gave my entire life savings to promote his cause..

someone that brought me from being starved by my own people to being one of the most legendary and respected men in world history..

then I would not flinch at the idea of him marrying my daughter, especially after the fact that she was overjoyed at the idea and cared for him deeply..


but yes, carry on with your little game, because you NEED that misinformation in order to discredit something that you have little understanding of yet hate with a passion.

Ahh here in lies the problem. Muhammad said he would marry her when he first laid his lustful eyes upon her. She was 2.

[Gan]

Did the Prophet Muhammad rape and murder a girl in 1990?

[TheThirdEye]

Shit, I didn't realize this thread has been derailed into a more interesting conversation than the obvious troll fail by the OP. Thanks PC, this is much better reading :)

[Rinualdo]

The more Gingrich gets involved in politics and retreats from the safety of Fox News, the more articles like this come out from his ex-wife.

http://www.esquire.com/print-this/newt-gingrich-0910?page=all

The tl;dr version.

Wife to Newt: How can you say all of those things about family values when you cheated on your first wife with me, and now are cheating on me with another woman.

Newt: Its not what I do, its what I say