All-Christian Prison

[ClydeR]

Considering how much discrimination Christians suffer today, I think this is a good idea. I'm surprised the ACLU and their liberal Democrat allies haven't already gone to court to try to stop it.


WAKITA — This tiny town near the Oklahoma-Kansas state line north of Enid may soon own the country's only all-Christian prison, with Christian administrators, employees, counselors and programs.

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He said a lot of prisons have faith-based or Christian units, but he knows of none with an all-Christian staff.

"The staff, being all born-again believers, will see this as a mission," he said.

"I want people to understand what it's about. It's about changing criminals into citizens."

The prison would accept only men near the end of their sentences who volunteer to come into the prison and sign an agreement to participate.


"They don't have to go to church, or Bible study, but they have to participate in the curriculum, which is Christ-centered," Robinson said.

He possesses legal opinions that say that as a religious organization, the prison will be able to hire only people of like faith, he said.

If constitutional challenges arise, he said, the American Center for Law and Justice, a major Christian law firm, has agreed to represent the ministry for free.

[AestheticLife]

A lot of Catholic priests have done worse than what those felons have, so this is a natural fit!

[TheEschaton]

Ah, but Catholics wouldn't be allowed in an evangelical Christian prison, AMIRITE CLYDE?

[ClydeR]

Ah, but Catholics wouldn't be allowed in an evangelical Christian prison, AMIRITE CLYDE?

Not as employees. But they would be allowed as prisoners if they agree to take the curriculum.

[Reawing]

If the prison doesn't cost more to run than other prisons, and the prisoners are volunteers to go there, I don't see a problem. If however, it has better facilities or costs more than other prisons, then I could see there being more of a problem.

-Reawing

[Deathravin]

As long as tax dollars aren't paying for the extras, just the 'bars, guards and walls' (as Mr. Norton would say), let them make any type of religious prison they want... Well, and as long as it's got an appropriate population for its size...

And I guess taxes can pay for their food too, but I'm not too sure why the prison can't have a working farm on it - then you just gotta pay for water...

[Gan]

He possesses legal opinions that say that as a religious organization, the prison will be able to hire only people of like faith, he said.


There's where the problem will arise. Thats a direct EEOC violation.

[radamanthys]

There's where the problem will arise. Thats a direct EEOC violation.

It's more of an eighth amendment violation. Cruel and unusual punishment.

[phantasm]

Religious Organization Exception: Under Title VII, religious organizations are permitted to give employment preference to members of their own religion. The exception applies only to those institutions whose “purpose and character are primarily religious.” Factors to consider that would indicate whether an entity is religious include: whether its articles of incorporation state a religious purpose; whether its day-to-day operations are religious (e.g., are the services the entity performs, the product it produces, or the educational curriculum it provides directed toward propagation of the religion?); whether it is not-for-profit; and whether it affiliated with, or supported by, a church or other religious organization.

This exception is not limited to religious activities of the organization. However, it only allows religious organizations to prefer to employ individuals who share their religion. The exception does not allow religious organizations otherwise to discriminate in employment on the basis of race, color, national origin, sex, age, or disability. Thus, a religious organization is not permitted to engage in racially discriminatory hiring by asserting that a tenet of its religious beliefs is not associating with people of other races.

[BigWorm]

Can you imagine how many people would be frothing at the mouth if you replaced Christian with Muslim in this story?

[Deathravin]

Can you imagine how many people would be frothing at the mouth if you replaced Christian with Muslim in this story?

As is usual, I think that was probably ClydeR's original point... or at least the point of the player of ClydeR.

[TheEschaton]

It'd be hard to argue that the primary purpose of a Christian prison was CHristian ministry and not....imprisonment.

[radamanthys]

Can you imagine how many people would be frothing at the mouth if you replaced Christian with Muslim in this story?

Muslim-only prison? It's called Guantanamo Bay.

[BigWorm]

Muslim-only prison? It's called Guantanamo Bay.

Guessing this an attempt at a joke?

I didn't hear that they converted all the guards and administration to Islam at Gitmo.

[phantasm]

Muslim-only prison? It's called Guantanamo Bay.

lol, see some people have a sense of humor.

[radamanthys]

Guessing this an attempt at a joke?

I didn't hear that they converted all the guards and administration to Islam at Gitmo.

Yep. Joke.