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ClydeR
08-15-2009, 11:07 AM
Sarah Palin has once again separated the Cheechakos from the Sourdoughs. While the liberal media are busy allowing Obama to avoid the important questions about health care reform, Palin is honing in on what the folks really want to know.


President Obama has not yet stated any opposition to the “Complete Lives System,” a system which, if enacted, would refuse to allocate medical resources to the elderly, the infirm, and the disabled who have less economic potential. Why the silence from the president on this aspect of his nationalization of health care? Does he agree with the “Complete Lives System”?

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Have we heard the President address the Complete Lives System a single time? No, not even a single time. Why not? Because he doesn't want to talk about it. Why doesn't he want to talk about it? The answer is obvious. Because it's part of his plan to kill old people and Down Syndrome babies -- a group that is currently well protected by the private insurance companies that Obama wants to replace -- so that he can get reelected in 2012.

Although the Complete Lives System may not actually be in any of the health care bills -- an objection I'm sure some of you liberals will raise -- it's something Obama needs to discuss anyway, because somebody could put it in a bill later. Irregardless, Obama has irresponsibly refused to address this important issue.

Palin didn't stop there. She continued her Facebook article by addressing two other things, the important parts of which are quoted below, that everybody needs to know about the Democrat health care plans. First, the President says you'll be able to keep your current plan if you like it, but everybody knows he really wants to take away your current plan. Second, what Obama really wants is to ruin this country like France by forcing us to accept a single payer system. Like the Complete Lives System, which the President has declined to discuss, a single payer system isn't actually in any of the bills, but you know Obama will ignore the law and do it anyway, which is why history will show that George W. Bush was a much better President than Obama.


The president is busy assuring us that we can keep our private insurance plans, but common sense (and basic economics) tells us otherwise.


A single payer health care plan has been President Obama’s agenda all along, though he is now claiming otherwise.


A single-payer health care plan might be what Obama would like to see, but is it what the rest of us would like to see? What does a single payer health care plan look like? We need look no further than other countries who have adopted such a plan. The picture isn’t pretty.

Palin then eviscerates the argument that her advocacy for living wills while she Governor of Alaska is somehow comparable to the death panel provisions in the Democrat plan. Since I can't possibly improve on Palin's defense of herself, I'll quote it in full.


I issued a proclamation for “Healthcare Decisions Day.” The proclamation sought to increase the public’s knowledge about creating living wills and establishing powers of attorney. There was no incentive to choose one option over another. There was certainly no financial incentive for physicians to push anything. In fact, the proclamation explicitly called on medical professionals and lawyers “to volunteer their time and efforts” to provide information to the public.

Comparing the “Healthcare Decisions Day” proclamation to Section 1233 of HR 3200 is ridiculous. The two are like apples and oranges. The attempt to link the two shows how desperate the proponents of nationalized health care are to shift the debate away from the disturbing details of their bill.

Palin's approach as governor was more of a "thousand points of light" plan. The Democrat plan would pay doctors to provide that service. I think we can all agree that it would be better to have thousands of volunteers than a few paid people.

Finally, Palin points out the elephant in the room. Providing health care insurance policies to people isn't the best way to get them health care. The best way is to cut taxes for the most productive members of society so that prosperity will spread to everyone.


The best way to encourage more health care coverage is to foster a strong economy where people can afford to purchase their own coverage if they choose to do so.

Geshron
08-15-2009, 01:26 PM
She is a fucking idiot.

Celephais
08-15-2009, 03:34 PM
Whoever's playing Clyder is getting lazy.

Parkbandit
08-15-2009, 05:05 PM
She is a fucking idiot.

Which part of what she said makes her an idiot?

4a6c1
08-16-2009, 12:36 AM
Which part of what she said makes her an idiot?

THATS NOT THE POINT

SHE NEEDS TO GET BACK IN THE KITCHEN!!!!1

Geshron
08-16-2009, 08:50 AM
Although the Complete Lives System may not actually be in any of the health care bills -- an objection I'm sure some of you liberals will raise -- it's something Obama needs to discuss anyway, because somebody could put it in a bill later.

I really don't have the patience to go through her entire argument and shred into mitochondria. This out of everything I read above was far more absurd and ridiculous. Not to mention the "source" is some rambling from her fan page on FaceBook. She is a member of celebrity culture with a knack for injecting falsehoods wherever she sees fit. 2012 simply NOT happening for her, quote me on it.

Parkbandit
08-16-2009, 10:08 AM
I really don't have the patience to go through her entire argument and shred into mitochondria. This out of everything I read above was far more absurd and ridiculous. Not to mention the "source" is some rambling from her fan page on FaceBook. She is a member of celebrity culture with a knack for injecting falsehoods wherever she sees fit. 2012 simply NOT happening for her, quote me on it.

Is it patience... or a leg to stand on that you don't have?

You've called her an idiot for posting that.. yet it seems to me that the bill has now been changed.. deleting this entire section from it.

ElvenFury
08-16-2009, 10:11 AM
THATS NOT THE POINT

SHE NEEDS TO GET BACK IN THE KITCHEN!!!!1

She's too thin to be a decent cook. Clean the bathroom, maybe?

ClydeR
08-16-2009, 05:30 PM
I know a lot of you don't like Palin, but she's the brightest star in the Republican solar system, around which the wannabes revolve. An example is Newt Gingrich. Gingrich is supposedly something of an intellectual, which is what I think is holding him back in the party. Gingrich's new article is nothing more than an echo of Palin's earlier article.


Trust the government?
By Newt Gingrich Sunday, August 16, 2009



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Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel is a key health care adviser to President Obama and the brother of White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel. Earlier this year, Dr. Emanuel wrote an article that advocated what he called "the complete lives system" as a method for rationing health care.

The system advocated by Dr. Emanuel would allocate health care based on the government's perception of the societal worth of the patients. Accordingly, the very young and the very old would receive less care since the former have received less societal investment and the latter have less left to contribute. "The Complete Lives System" would also consider the prognosis of the individual.

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