Reza Kahlili: As a CIA spy, I saw in Iran what the West cannot ignore

[Drew]

http://www.csmonitor.com/2009/0805/p09s01-coop.html

from the August 05, 2009 edition -
As a CIA spy, I saw in Iran what the West cannot ignore
We must defend freedom in Iran soon – or deal with nuclear-armed fanatics later.
By Reza Kahlili

Los Angeles

Today the West must make one of the most important decisions of our era. Will we defend what remains of democracy and freedom in Iran, or will we succumb to Tehran's murderous government?

It's a question that goes to the heart of our own security. Iran is a thugocracy of Islamic mullahs, and it will soon have nuclear arms. Any misconception about the intentions of fanatics with nuclear bombs will have grave consequences.

I know because I spent years alongside them as a CIA spy working under cover in Iran's Revolutionary Guards starting in the 1980s.

The Guards Corps was set up as a check on the regular Army and to serve and secure the Islamic revolution. Thirty years of Western appeasement hasn't stopped them from terrorizing the West – or Iranians. Today, with Tehran's leaders caught in a power struggle over the June 12 election and the legitimacy of the regime, the Guards, led by zealots, are calling the shots.

The Guards – and the hardliner clerics they protect – are vulnerable, however. This summer's grass-roots uprising has put them on the defensive. A strong Western hand now could tip the balance.

We don't have a moment to lose. If we can't upend the Guards now, how can we do so once they have nuclear bombs?

Washington could lead the way by refusing to recognize President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, who earlier today took the oath of office for his second, four-year term. Instead, the United States should demand the freedom – and the freedom of speech – for all who've been arrested and tortured in recent weeks. And we should toughen sanctions to include cutting off Iran's gasoline supplies.

The people of Iran are desperate for a show of support from the West. By standing with them, we can uphold our duty to defend democracy and take a stand for the security of the free world.

Such a stand would mark a radical policy change. For the past 30 years, the West has tried very hard to appease Iran's mullahs.

In the 1980s, I helped make known a secret pact between Iranian mullahs and some European governments. Thirsty for Iranian oil, the Europeans gave the go-ahead to Iranian agents to assassinate opposition members abroad without interference, as long as European citizens were not at risk. Hundreds of dissidents were gunned down.

The US has also been guilty of trying to appease the mullahs. Almost every administration after the 1979 Iranian Revolution has tried in vain to create better relations through back channels. Yet those efforts haven't stopped Iran's rulers from arming terrorists, taking hostages, and suppressing their own people.

The brutal killing of Iranians by their leaders that we're seeing today is nothing new. Ruling clerics have been killing political opponents, along with their families and friends, for 30 years – but inside prison walls.

I've been inside those walls and I've seen teenage girls who were raped before execution so they were no longer virgins and therefore, according to their Islamic beliefs, couldn't go to heaven. I've seen hundreds hung on cranes. I've seen women and men lined up in front of firing squads after being severely tortured; their families would be forced to pay for the cost of the bullets. Western officials were quite aware that this was happening, but they let their thirst for oil blind them.

Today, however, the screams of Iranians young and old calling for democracy and freedom cannot be ignored. The post-election uprising has started the countdown of the end of the thugocracy in Iran. This is the desire of the Iranian people. It should be our desire, too.

So far, the West has kept fairly quiet about Iran's unrest. President Obama and others say they don't want to give credence to Tehran's claims of a Western conspiracy behind the protests. And by not ruffling the regime's feathers, they hope to negotiate improved ties and resolve the nuclear impasse.

But how do you negotiate with a government composed of terrorists?

Right now, the Revolutionary Guards have near-complete control of Iran. This terrorist organization is expanding its power throughout the Middle East. Its ultimate goal is to bring the demise of the West.

With the help of North Korea, the Guards are working on long-range ballistic missiles in tests that are concealed by their space project.

The Guards have also accelerated their production of Sejil, solid fuel missiles, and are working nonstop to improve the range of those missiles. Today they can strike Tel Aviv, Riyadh, US bases in Iraq, and the US Navy's Fifth Fleet headquarters in Bahrain. Their goal is to be able to target all of Europe.

The Guards are also working on their nuclear bomb project in facilities unknown to the West.

Iran's defense minister, Mostafa Najjar, who oversees the development of missile and nuclear technology, was in charge of the Revolutionary Guards forces in Lebanon that facilitated the attack on the Marine Corps barracks in Beirut on Oct. 23, 1983, killing 241 US servicemen.

The current deputy defense minister, Ahmad Vahidi, who oversees the distribution of arms and missiles to terrorist groups such as Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad, and Hamas, was the commander of the Guards' elite Quds Forces and the chief intelligence officer of the Guards in charge of the terrorist activities outside of Iran.

Mr. Vahidi is currently on Interpol's Most Wanted List for the attack on the Jewish community center in Buenos Aires on July 18, 1994 that killed 85 and injured more than 100.

Many Iranian officials have Interpol arrest warrants, and even supreme leader Ayatollah Khamenei has been recognized in courts as one who has ordered such acts.

Fanatic radicals such as these are incompatible with a free Iran. This is the best opportunity in 30 years to change course and stop succumbing to thugs. Will we seize it?

"Reza Kahlili" is a pseudonym for an ex-CIA spy who requires anonymity for safety reasons. He is writing a book about his life and experiences as a CIA agent in Iran's Revolutionary Guards.

[Androidpk]

Obama isn't going to do shit to Iran.

[Tolwynn]

Saddam did lots of crazy shit too, and after that, the general consensus seems to be to let that sort keep doing what they please if it stays in their own country.

The worst Iran will get is a stern finger-wagging, undoubtedly.

[Gan]

The US has been the world's police for too long. Its time for someone else to step up and realize how difficult that task is and what baggage comes along with it.

If the Iranian people are willing to let their government pursue a nuclear aggressive stance then they are taking their own saftey at risk when that aggression strikes and is in turn responded to.

Damn, I sound like Ron Paul. I must have woke up on the Libertarian side of the bed this morning.

[Parkbandit]

The US has been the world's police for too long. Its time for someone else to step up and realize how difficult that task is and what baggage comes along with it.

If the Iranian people are willing to let their government pursue a nuclear aggressive stance then they are taking their own saftey at risk when that aggression strikes and is in turn responded to.

Damn, I sound like Ron Paul. I must have woke up on the Libertarian side of the bed this morning.

Like who? France? Who is actually going to step up?

[4a6c1]

Obama isn't going to do shit to Iran.


Obama isn't going to do shit to Iran.


Obama isn't going to do shit to Iran.


Obama isn't going to do shit to Iran.


Obama isn't going to do shit to Iran.

1 x 5 = TRUTH PRIME RIBBED

[Gan]

Like who? France? Who is actually going to step up?

The first country to react after Israel is turned into a glass parking lot. We all know it wont be France...

[4a6c1]

Like who? France? Who is actually going to step up?

I thought that was what we have been arming Israel for.

But Obama doesnt like them so we just better hope we dont need a proxy for 3 more years!

[Drew]

The first country to react after Israel is turned into a glass parking lot. We all know it wont be France...

I don't think they nuke all of Israel, they can't really nuke Jerusalem - too many holy Islamic places. But there's really no reason not to nuke Tel-Aviv, there are no Muslim holy sites nearby and it is the seat of the Jewish state.

[Warriorbird]

Frankly... this is Israel's job if it comes to it.

In the middle of these economic times, McCain would've been an idiot to go to Iran. I'm pretty sure he intended to.

(all the Force Recon Marines in there under Bush were a strong indicator)

[ClydeR]

http://www.csmonitor.com/2009/0805/p09s01-coop.html

That's way too long. Can't you give a one or two sentence summary that lets me decide if I want to read it?

[Parkbandit]

Frankly... this is Israel's job if it comes to it.

In the middle of these economic times, McCain would've been an idiot to go to Iran. I'm pretty sure he intended to.

(all the Force Recon Marines in there under Bush were a strong indicator)

OMG BECAUSE HE SANG "BOMB BOMB BOMB, BOMB BOMB IRAN!"

Probably not a good idea to form an opinion upon a satirical song sang to a bunch of old war vets.... but let's be honest, you don't exactly have many good ideas.

[Warriorbird]

I'm sorry that you're so very misinformed. More because of the saber rattling in COUNTLESS speeches and the 400 million spent putting recon troops into Iran under Bush.

I know that you personally prefer the simplistic sound bite.

Also... according to you, every other CIA agent is writing a book FOR MONEY.

Might Reza not be as well? Zoned out conservatives love to buy books. Witness the enduring popularity of Ann Coulter.

To pre-empt your reference to Bill Maher? No shit, preaching to a particular choir is a particularly effective way to sell something.

[Parkbandit]

I'm sorry that you're so very misinformed. More because of the saber rattling in COUNTLESS speeches and the 400 million spent putting recon troops into Iran under Bush.

I know that you personally prefer the simplistic sound bite.

Your ignorance of the way the CIA/Covert ops works is astounding. You believe that we don't spend 400 million in plenty of countries? Does that mean we would have invaded all of them if McCain got elected?

As far as simplistic sound bites.. you are the liberal and by your own account, you don't think. I bet it's a pretty safe bet you are far easier to convince something is the way it is than I do. I tend to question everything.



Also... according to you, every other CIA agent is writing a book FOR MONEY.

Might Reza not be as well? Zoned out conservatives love to buy books. Witness the enduring popularity of Ann Coulter.

To pre-empt your reference to Bill Maher? No shit, preaching to a particular choir is a particularly effective way to sell something.


I don't even understand what the fuck the point of the rest of this bullshit is. If "according to you" means you have an actual quote of a post of mine stating that.. you might want to include it. I'll help you out.. I've never stated that... nor does that have anything to do with McCain bombing Iran like you are certain he would have done.

The last book I purchased was The Da Vinci Code... when it first came out. Yea, I'm a zoned out conservative.

[Warriorbird]

You said it. You don't read.

[Parkbandit]

You said it. You don't read.


Actually, I believe I stated that the last book I purchased was The Da Vinci Code.

You are full of fail today.. even more than most days. Are you doing ok?

[Warriorbird]

And here I was getting bored by you...

...I dunno. Perceptions. Must be the weather.

[Atlanteax]

I'll let people read this article...

"Iranian officials accused of raping political prisoners"

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article6790445.ece

(oh, and Obama still won't do shit)

[Androidpk]

If the Iranian people are willing to let their government pursue a nuclear aggressive stance then they are taking their own saftey at risk when that aggression strikes and is in turn responded to.


As if the Iranian people have/had any choice in that matter.

[Androidpk]

With the number of available combat soldiers rising rapidly due to a slowdown in operations in Iraq, Obama does have that option if he choses to.

[Warriorbird]

We can't necessarily force a people to choose democracy over theocracy.

[Androidpk]

Maybe not, but we sure try :D

[Latrinsorm]

The US has been the world's police for too long. Its time for someone else to step up and realize how difficult that task is and what baggage comes along with it.It's a unique role that only we can fill. The UN might be able to get there as it becomes less Euro-centric, but I'm not optimistic.
If the Iranian people are willing to let their government pursue a nuclear aggressive stance then they are taking their own saftey at risk when that aggression strikes and is in turn responded to.Real life isn't V for Vendetta, though. Totalitarian regimes don't respond to popular riots with "well... ok, we'll knock it off with the brutal repression". They respond with brutal repression, that's Mr. Kahlili's point. A bunch of kids with green scarves and rocks need somebody's help to beat the guys with Kevlar and tanks.

Also worth stressing is that this is not a democracy vs. theocracy issue. The people revolting by and large like the system of government, just not the particular way it's being implemented right now.

[Warriorbird]

Of course, Androidpk. Part of the issue with leaving Iraq is the likely instant Shiite buddy buddying with Iran that will occur.

[Bhuryn]

It's a unique role that only we can fill. The UN might be able to get there as it becomes less Euro-centric, but I'm not optimistic.Real life isn't V for Vendetta, though. Totalitarian regimes don't respond to popular riots with "well... ok, we'll knock it off with the brutal repression". They respond with brutal repression, that's Mr. Kahlili's point. A bunch of kids with green scarves and rocks need somebody's help to beat the guys with Kevlar and tanks.

That might be true, but it's not a role we should fill.

[Atlanteax]

That might be true, but it's not a role we should fill.

What if it is in our natural geopolitical interests to do so?

(if you examine it on the macro-level)

[Androidpk]

That might be true, but it's not a role we should fill.

Why don't you think we should? I think someone has to, and I rather have the US do it then say China, Russia, or India.

[Bhuryn]

Why don't you think we should? I think someone has to, and I rather have the US do it then say China, Russia, or India.

Because we can't afford it and I believe it causes as many, if not more problems then it prevents. The underhanded string-pulling and occupation of foreign countries isn't exactly the best way to promote cooperation among nations.

[Gan]

As if the Iranian people have/had any choice in that matter.

So how did the Iranians do it 30 years ago? (1979 islamic reveloution)

I think they have plenty of choice, just not enough conviction or motivation if you ask me...

[Warriorbird]

Scary. I agree with Gan.

[Androidpk]

So how did the Iranians do it 30 years ago? (1979 islamic reveloution)

I think they have plenty of choice, just not enough conviction or motivation if you ask me...

I was thinking of a more democratic way. It isn't like the clerics put out a vote, hey, who wants nukes! Also, there is a huge difference between the revolution that happened in 1979 versus what is going on now.

[Bhuryn]

So how did the Iranians do it 30 years ago? (1979 islamic reveloution)

I think they have plenty of choice, just not enough conviction or motivation if you ask me...

I would like to add that this was a response directly tied to our underhanded dealings in Iran =D.

[Androidpk]

Stratfor has a really good piece comparing the two events, and explaining why the one in 1979 was successful. I'll see if I can dig that up.

[Latrinsorm]

So how did the Iranians do it 30 years ago? (1979 islamic reveloution)The 1979 revolution was not just against a despotic regime, but a foreign-installed despotic regime. Just like in America, just like in 1930s Germany, the majority of Iranians are not going to literally get up in arms over their own politicians, no matter how savage. The people we would be helping are the distinct minority, just like they are in every revolution. Most people would rather live and hope for the best.

[4a6c1]

Good thread.

Wish i had time to read it.

[Daniel]

Your ignorance of the way the CIA/Covert ops works is astounding. You believe that we don't spend 400 million in plenty of countries? Does that mean we would have invaded all of them if McCain got elected?

Recon troops are not CIA ops.

<--- Ex- Recon Soldier

[Kuyuk]

Shh..

[Parkbandit]

Recon troops are not CIA ops.

<--- Ex- Recon Soldier

Wait.. aren't you giving away top secret info.. I mean, you had to change your name here to protect the US and all.

[Androidpk]

Recon troops are not CIA ops.

<--- Ex- Recon Soldier

The CIA and the Marines DO have a very close relationship though. In fact, CIA pulls a bunch of people from force recon into special operations group. BTW, who played you in Generation Kill? :D

[Daniel]

The CIA and the Marines DO have a very close relationship though. In fact, CIA pulls a bunch of people from force recon into special operations group. BTW, who played you in Generation Kill? :D

Not in regards to operations. Pipelines into SAD don't really count.

The CIA does have a great working relationship with SOCOM in general,which did not include Marine Force Recon because they believed most Marines were "Special operations capable". This changed very recently though with the Marines fielding their own spec ops unit, which did not go over very well initially.

As for the second part, I was Army RSTA, I wasn't a Marine. I did save their ass in Fallujah though (kinda kidding ;))

[Daniel]

Wait.. aren't you giving away top secret info.. I mean, you had to change your name here to protect the US and all.

Yea....

That joke was lame the first time you pulled it out 3 years ago.

[Androidpk]

Not in regards to operations. Pipelines into SAD don't really count.



Are you sure about that. I've been doing a lot of reading into the marines and i'll have to go back and find the source but it said they had a very strong relationship with the CIA in regards to operations, which started in Vietnam.

[Daniel]

Are you sure about that. I've been doing a lot of reading into the marines and i'll have to go back and find the source but it said they had a very strong relationship with the CIA in regards to operations, which started in Vietnam.

I guess it depends on what you mean by operations. You're not likely to see CIA ops in a traditional military formation. Marine Recon is trained for conventional military operations, such as Direct Action and long ranged recon. They definitely are highly trained but they don't receive the same type of training that you would get in places like Special Forces which would be kinda essential for stuff like covert missions (Language, immersion, etc).

Then again, since I wasn't marines I wouldn't actually know that beyond my own personal experiences with them, which included being assigned to 1st Recon in Anbar.

I would conjecture to say that they probably share a lot of information and collaborate on a lot missions though.

[Parkbandit]

Yea....

That joke was lame the first time you pulled it out 3 years ago.

It was a joke... only we were laughing at you and not with you. You used it as one of your reasons for changing your name here from Ranger1 to Daniel.

We all got a pretty good laugh at it though.

[Androidpk]

I'll be damned if I can remember where I saw that. One thing to note though is the special operations group, which is part of the CIA/SAD, got its start in vietnam under the name studies and operations group. Force recon marines were a part of that group though I think it was mainly army special forces and navy seals.

[Bhuryn]

The 1979 revolution was not just against a despotic regime, but a US-installed despotic regime. Just like in America, just like in 1930s Germany, the majority of Iranians are not going to literally get up in arms over their own politicians, no matter how savage. The people we would be helping are the distinct minority, just like they are in every revolution. Most people would rather live and hope for the best.

^

[Daniel]

It was a joke... only we were laughing at you and not with you. You used it as one of your reasons for changing your name here from Ranger1 to Daniel.

We all got a pretty good laugh at it though.


I'm sure you did.

[Drew]

You used it as one of your reasons for changing your name here from Ranger1 to Daniel.


It actually wasn't Ranger1, there was another letter. I figure you already know this, you're a smart guy and if you typed up the whole name then the plotters could link that with Daniel's current handle and really threaten national security.

[Daniel]

It actually wasn't Ranger1, there was another letter. I figure you already know this, you're a smart guy and if you typed up the whole name then the plotters could link that with Daniel's current handle and really threaten national security.

Don't out me bro!!11!!

[Tsa`ah]

It was a joke... only we were laughing at you and not with you. You used it as one of your reasons for changing your name here from Ranger1 to Daniel.

We all got a pretty good laugh at it though.

Actually ... you have the wrong person. You're never on the mark though so it's understandable. Keep it going though, you've been THE definitive source of all things ignorantly comical from the get go.

On topic though ... it's the Christian Science Monitor siding with something patently anti-Islamic/Iranian. If one doesn't automatically become suspect of the nature and intent of the article/advertising ... one should probably get out more.

It's not our responsibility, it's not our problem, and it's certainly not our obligation.

If we agree to a unilaterally joint operation where the responsibility and burden is spread evenly amongst all participants, it becomes a different situation.

This is a GLOBAL issue, not a US or UK or Israeli or even UN issue.

[Androidpk]

This is a GLOBAL issue, not a US or UK or Israeli or even UN issue.

I'm curious as to who else you think should be involved outside of who you mentioned. Certainly not russia, if anything russia is making the situation with iran even more dangerous.

[Tsa`ah]

I'm curious as to who else you think should be involved outside of who you mentioned. Certainly not russia, if anything russia is making the situation with iran even more dangerous.

A better question would be ... why should we be involved?

It's a global issue. Until others are willing to pony up to the responsibility bar, it's not our duty to do.

We, the US, have jumped into conflicts that we had absolutely no business being in ... Korea and Viet Nam come to mind. And have, in the very recent past, have initiated one conflict we had no business initiating.

[Androidpk]

A better question would be ... why should we be involved?


So you wouldn't be worried if Iran had nuclear weapons? It's a very precarious situation. Israel is NOT going to stand for Iran having nukes. If Israel attacks Iran however, one of the first things Iran would probably do in response is to heavily mine the straight of hormuz. The straight is one of the most strategically important locations in the world. Around 17 million barrels of oil are shipped through it every day. If Israel attacks Irans nuclear facilities it puts 20% of the worlds shipments at risk. Can you imagine the damage that would do to economies? The US is one of the only countries that could prevent this from happening, military wise.

[Tsa`ah]

So you wouldn't be worried if Iran had nuclear weapons? It's a very precarious situation. Israel is NOT going to stand for Iran having nukes. If Israel attacks Iran however, one of the first things Iran would probably do in response is to heavily mine the straight of hormuz. The straight is one of the most strategically important locations in the world. Around 17 million barrels of oil are shipped through it every day. If Israel attacks Irans nuclear facilities it puts 20% of the worlds shipments at risk. Can you imagine the damage that would do to economies? The US is one of the only countries that could prevent this from happening, military wise.

Although I am a Jew, you'll find me pretty unsympathetic to arguments that insist on close ties with Israel, or arguments that involve Israel. Part of the problem we have in the region stems from being the big brother over the shoulder of Israel. Israel's problems tend to stem from the same.

That being said, Israel isn't likely to let Iran get that far without preemptive strikes. They have done so in the past with other countries ... they'll do it to Iran. As far as which country has the superior navy, well we would find out if Iran ever attempted to mine the Straight, though Israel wouldn't be the only nation involved in the prevention of the attempt as it would be a global disruption.

Even though the US has had some significant global image improvements, our presence and interference in the region is still pretty damned toxic. How many problems will we create by involving ourselves in an Iranian conflict even with the best intentions?

[4a6c1]

And have, in the very recent past, have initiated one conflict we had no business initiating.

Pfft.

We needed more OIL. Duh.

[Warriorbird]

If we were gonna flat up invade, I still wish it'd been the part of Pakistan that our good allies in the war on terror in Pakistan decided to give to the terrorists.

[Proxy]

I find the whole mid-east peace thing to be the greatest work of comedy in the last three hundred or so years. Since the peak of the inquisition any ways...

Something should be done, but because of the shear number of people and powers that have meddled with it, anything done now will have serious repercussions. So we, being the world, now are f'd if we try to "fix" it and we are damned if we don't. LOL

Edit: Then again I'm kind of hoping that things get a lot worse before anyone goes all chivalric and falls on their sword to get things going in the right direction. I expect one hell of a show, and will be sorely disappointing if I don't get it.

[Nieninque]

Actually ... you have the wrong person.

Actually he has the right person.

RangerD1 became Daniel. One of the things he spoke about when explaining his name-change (probably in response to much laughing and pointing at NevermindIslashedmywristsDrayal's latest name change) was that he needed to change his PC name in case of security flaws as he was on active service at the time.

Of course PB is exaggerating it, but it's still funny just the same.

[Nieninque]

If I remember correctly, Daniel also had his previous username deleted rather than just changed over.

[Daniel]

If I remember correctly, Daniel also had his previous username deleted rather than just changed over.

Correct. I had my name deleted when I joined a Special Ops task force.

Once I got back to the US my account was reactivated (Oct 2005). Man I can't believe it's been 5 years.

[Tsa`ah]

Actually he has the right person.

RangerD1 became Daniel. One of the things he spoke about when explaining his name-change (probably in response to much laughing and pointing at NevermindIslashedmywristsDrayal's latest name change) was that he needed to change his PC name in case of security flaws as he was on active service at the time.

Of course PB is exaggerating it, but it's still funny just the same.

I remember Dave before the service, during training, and then after constantly going on about security and classified information ... that was the only "big deal" I could remember.

[Daniel]

I remember Dave before the service, during training, and then after constantly going on about security and classified information ... that was the only "big deal" I could remember.

I never brought it up until people started making shit up about it.

[Fallen]

In Daniel's defense security clearance investigations and the like are truly retarded about stuff on the internet.

[Parkbandit]

It actually wasn't Ranger1, there was another letter. I figure you already know this, you're a smart guy and if you typed up the whole name then the plotters could link that with Daniel's current handle and really threaten national security.

I didn't want to be reported to the White House.

Consider yourself on notice.

[Parkbandit]

Actually ... you have the wrong person. You're never on the mark though so it's understandable. Keep it going though, you've been THE definitive source of all things ignorantly comical from the get go.


Oops? Seriously Shit4Brains.. please stop. You aren't even making this fun for me... I feel like I'm picking on the retarded poster again and while it's fun at first... even I start to feel a tiny bit guilty of doing it.

http://blogs.mysanantonio.com/weblogs/atlarge/epic_fail.jpg


Actually he has the right person.

RangerD1 became Daniel. One of the things he spoke about when explaining his name-change (probably in response to much laughing and pointing at NevermindIslashedmywristsDrayal's latest name change) was that he needed to change his PC name in case of security flaws as he was on active service at the time.

Of course PB is exaggerating it, but it's still funny just the same.

[Parkbandit]

I remember Dave before the service, during training, and then after constantly going on about security and classified information ... that was the only "big deal" I could remember.

Must be the alzheimers setting in? Maybe your Depends is so full of your shit that you don't have enough of it remaining between your ears?

Remember in the post above when I said I feel a tad bit guilty for picking on you, the retarded poster?

I lied

[Tsa`ah]

Is this cyclical for you? Do you just lack even the most basic notion of creativity that you have to repeat insults?

I mean it was pretty damned funny when Lat had to fill you in on a definition ... but now you're just throwing it around like you understood what it meant in the first place.

Your collective posting history could be gathered and then bound ... but no one would know how to label it. Tragedy, failure, humor (sick humor like poking a caged tard with a stick until he gets all foamy at the mouth) ... it's a mystery in and of itself.

Is this the summary of you as an individual? Regurgitation that lacks substance and an inability to even defend or substantiate even a minor asinine reprint of something you claim as a position?

[Methais]

Remember in the post above when I said I feel a tad bit guilty for picking on you, the retarded poster?

I lied

Dammit, that made me think of this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vd1kzNBt4f4