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ClydeR
07-19-2009, 02:45 PM
"Medicare is the single most popular government program ever," said (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,533593,00.html) highly respected political commentator Fred Barnes. Barnes was, as usual, right in his assessment, according to public opinion polls (http://www.harrisinteractive.com/harris_poll/pubs/Harris_Poll_2009_01_13.pdf).

And that's the real problem with the planned healthcare reform.

Currently, only those people who are productive members of society get a full range of healthcare services. They pay their dues by working and buying insurance, and they reap the reward of adequate healthcare. Not perfect healthcare, by any means, but adequate to prolong life, ease suffering and, to the extent reasonable, maintain well being.

Obama and the Democrats want to expand adequate healthcare to a whole class of people who are not productive members of society -- the people who expect to receive more from society than they contribute.

Poor people who experience adequate healthcare for themselves and their families will want to keep it. They will live longer, causing Social Security to be even more insolvent. Gradually, they will demand more and more from the government subsidized health insurance policies. They'll probably even start voting! Once we go down this road, there will be no turning back. All of this will drain government revenue that would more wisely be spent encouraging investment or funding the military. It's simply something we cannot afford, no matter how popular it is likely to be.

So says Clyde.

Methais
07-19-2009, 02:48 PM
So says Clyde.

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LMingrone
07-19-2009, 02:57 PM
You're on point. Better healthcare coverage for the masses just means more people saying they're "sick" and can't work. I have a few immediate family members who live off SS and free medical care. Never worked a quarter towards SS in their lives. Yet have nice cars, go out to eat, and feed off of us.

I work my ass off and don't go to doctors when I'm hurt (happens alot) or sick, unless it's serious. And when I'm old my SS is going to be gone. It's really sickening to see people that are capable of working, not. Eating our money.

Bhuryn
07-19-2009, 03:01 PM
Easy solution. Force people on welfare to work those "jobs" that "only the illegal immigrants will do".

How long do you think people in Texas would stay on welfare if they had to spend 8 hours a day cleaning the highways in the weather we've had recently?

Methais
07-19-2009, 03:05 PM
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LMingrone
07-19-2009, 03:07 PM
That http://instantbillymays.com/ in LMingrone's sig is the best thing ever.

Heh. I put it in my sig after yours reminded me of it. LMINGRONE HERE!!!

TheEschaton
07-20-2009, 08:52 PM
Man, I opened a thread by ClydeR with the title "The Real Problem with Healthcare Reform," with eager anticipation, expecting a rant against blacks, or maybe the Hollywood Jews. Instead, I get this bullshit poor-person bashing.

WTF

ClydeR
07-20-2009, 10:02 PM
Man, I opened a thread by ClydeR with the title "The Real Problem with Healthcare Reform," with eager anticipation, expecting a rant against blacks, or maybe the Hollywood Jews. Instead, I get this bullshit poor-person bashing.

Why would you assume that a Christian is racist? Stop stereotyping people.