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crb
07-02-2009, 01:09 PM
There is certainly a double standard.

Look at that firefighter case recently (rightly) decided by the Supreme Court, and yet it was a split decision. A test put together by people specifically trying hard for racial impartiality with a written portion graded by one person of each flavor, is invalidated because no african americans scored well on it? And the City was (almost) allowed to invalidate it out of a weak claim that they'd fear race mongers like Al Sharpton might show up and sue them for not promoting apparently underqualified african americans who tested poorly on an objective test. How weak is that? And they almost got away with it.

Do we need to redesign basketball until more hispanics are good at it?

I was watching America's Got Talent, and the host is this black guy named Nick Cannon, I don't know his claim to fame. If he was a comedian, actor, or what. He is new this year though. So this unemployed farmer is the contestant and he looks like an unemployed farmer and he talks like a farmer, and Nick Cannon is making fun of him for the way he talks, the way he dresses, and his job.

Then the farmer whips out one of the best performances thus far and suddenly his attitude changes.

Imagine if those roles were flipped. Some banger black kid comes up with his untied oversized shoes, his baggy jeans down around his knees, a big oversized shirt, trucker hat on crooked, talking up ebonics. And a white host was all like "Sorry G, I don't speak jive. How do you run from the cops in those pants?" People would have a fit, Al Sharpton would be there just as soon as he felt he wasn't getting another camera time hanging around the Jacksons. There would be forced apologies galore.

Why is this the case? Why do people giggle when someone makes fun of the red neck because of his culture, but get offended when the shoe is flipped?

It used to be this way for homosexuals too. You say nigger, spic, kyke, people would call you on it, look down on you, be offended. But fag, queer, etc, was all giggles, the 10 year olds would do it on the playground. This is slowly changing, and that is a good thing. Those public service ads with like Wanda Sykes (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWS0GVOQPs0) I think were pretty effective.

There are still people, and likely always will be, that are racist against blacks, or racist against mexicans, or jews. But it isn't acceptable in mainsteam culture. Prejudice against gays is becoming unacceptable in mainstream culture. But it seems like the making fun of the poor white farmer has a long way to go.

Oh, by the way, here is the farmer's performance.

http://www.nbc.com/americas-got-talent/video/clips/kevin-skinners-performance/1131369/

radamanthys
07-02-2009, 01:40 PM
White males are evil, didn't you know that?

Warriorbird
07-02-2009, 02:30 PM
So what exactly are you after here... the opportunity to tell jokes about black people?

Bhuryn
07-02-2009, 02:35 PM
So what exactly are you after here... the opportunity to tell jokes about black people?

I assumed equal rights for his people (Gays, fags, etc.)...

Warriorbird
07-02-2009, 02:35 PM
Sorcerors.

Jorddyn
07-02-2009, 02:40 PM
Look at that firefighter case recently (rightly) decided by the Supreme Court

I'm sure they'll be thrilled to hear that you concur with their decision.


There are still people, and likely always will be, that are racist against blacks, or racist against mexicans, or jews. But it isn't acceptable in mainsteam culture. Prejudice against gays is becoming unacceptable in mainstream culture. But it seems like the making fun of the poor white farmer has a long way to go.

It's because it's about discrimination (action), not prejudice (beliefs). Those up the ladder of our society have the power and ability to be discriminatory, and therefore shouldn't display prejudice. Those down the ladder can be prejudice because their ability to be discriminatory is overall very minimal (they have little power). ETA: I'm not saying that I agree, I'm saying this is how it is. Prejudice as a whole is an annoying feature of we humans.

Please note: This is about large groups, not individual persons. That's why we can freely mock celebrities, politicians, white men, and rich people. Anyone who is a combination of the above for bonus points: See the Governator.

crb
07-02-2009, 02:47 PM
Gays, sorcerers, and unemployed redneck farmers all deserve not to be prejudged.

Its not just of course that Nick Cannon was a black guy doing this, white people do it to. Liberal elites mostly, but it is still fairly mainstream. I'm from a small rural town originally and in highschool my older brother got a stick up his ass his junior and senior year and started really talking down our town and the people in it like he was better than them and how he couldn't wait to get out and be successful. He is really arrogant.

He still is pretty arrogant, but the funny thing is he isn't so successful, in fact he had to move back to that town and live with my parents for awhile, and then in a small apartment, while his kids were getting public assistance, because of all his bad choices. He still gets help from my parents, and is still as arrogant as ever. Big time Democratic voter by the way, but crazy Chistian supposedly pro-life as well (he says he is prolife, but has never voted as such). He's the type that'd become a scientologist if given the opportunity, but the Christians got to him first. His kids are being indoctrinated too now unfortunately. It is always scary when a 6 year old starts letting you know which relatives are going to heaven, and which ones notsomuch.

Jorddyn
07-02-2009, 02:51 PM
Liberal elites mostly,

Big time Democratic voter by the way, but crazy Chistian supposedly pro-life as well (he says he is prolife, but has never voted as such). He's the type that'd become a scientologist if given the opportunity, but the Christians got to him first.

Everyone mocks/belittles/makes fun of others. Some of us just don't notice it unless we fall into the group being mocked, and fail to recognize it at all when we're the ones doing the mocking.

crb
07-02-2009, 02:59 PM
I'm sure they'll be thrilled to hear that you concur with their decision.

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It's because it's about discrimination (action), not prejudice (beliefs). Those up the ladder of our society have the power and ability to be discriminatory, and therefore shouldn't display prejudice. Those down the ladder can be prejudice because their ability to be discriminatory is overall very minimal (they have little power). ETA: I'm not saying that I agree, I'm saying this is how it is. Prejudice as a whole is an annoying feature of we humans.

Please note: This is about large groups, not individual persons. That's why we can freely mock celebrities, politicians, white men, and rich people. Anyone who is a combination of the above for bonus points: See the Governator.
That is actually a fairly good explanation. But not perfect. Unemployed farmers aren't exactly a powerful group in our society. Unless you're lumping him in with all the limousine liberals and rich conservative capitalists and other white people who are powerful, just because they share a skin color?

Would it be okay for someone like Obama to call a gang banger nigger because they share a skin color? Are they from the same group? Harvard educated child of mixed parents raised in hawaii and overseas vs. highschool dropout without a father raised in an inner city? Same group because they have the same skin color?

My point is that you can't stop people from being prejudice, but we as a society should not be so accepting of prejudice against people like Kevin Skinner. He may be white, but he is not rich, he is not powerful, he is not educated. He's just a humble sincere unemployed chicken catcher with dirty clothes and a southern accent. Some people go on that show thinking they are all that, saying how they'll win, how they're the best, and they suck, and its okay to make fun of them, but you're making fun of them for their arrogance, not for their appearance.

There is nobility in simplicity. You don't have to be rich, or famous, or educated, with an important job in a big city. No matter how complicated or important your work is, there is nobility in working hard and being self reliant, even with meager means. The humble do not deserve prejudice.

crb
07-02-2009, 03:05 PM
Everyone mocks/belittles/makes fun of others. Some of us just don't notice it unless we fall into the group being mocked, and fail to recognize it at all when we're the ones doing the mocking.
My brother is a judgemental Christian. He once told me it was wrong to have more than two children, thats how judgemental he is. If I make fun of him it isn't in his belief that Jesus is Magic, it is because of his arrogance and judgemental attitude.

Anyone remember Dawson's Creek? In like an early episode the neighbor girl (who was living with her grandma) was all worried about introducing her grandma to her gay friend because fearing she would judge because grandma was very christian. The grandmothers response was something along the lines of "When he goes to heaven god may judge him but here on earth we are not to judge and just give him all the support and love he needs."

Ridiculing someone specific for being judgemental and arrogant, which are character flaws, is a far cry from actual prejudice of assuming everyone of a group is the same way, or to prejudge someone based on their appearance.

Jorddyn
07-02-2009, 03:06 PM
That is actually a fairly good explanation. But not perfect. Unemployed farmers aren't exactly a powerful group in our society. Unless you're lumping him in with all the limousine liberals and rich conservative capitalists and other white people who are powerful, just because they share a skin color?

He's a white male. So it's ok for a black male to mock him. (EXPLAINING, not saying I agree)


Would it be okay for someone like Obama to call a gang banger nigger because they share a skin color? Are they from the same group? Harvard educated child of mixed parents raised in hawaii and overseas vs. highschool dropout without a father raised in an inner city? Same group because they have the same skin color?

He's a rich famous politician, so it is not ok for him to mock a poor civilian (Again EXPLAINING, not saying I agree).


My point is that you can't stop people from being prejudice, but we as a society should not be so accepting of prejudice against people like Kevin Skinner.

We shouldn't be accepting of racism. Prejudice is a belief, and unless you're going all Minority Report on me, there's no way you'll know who is and who is not.


There is nobility in simplicity. You don't have to be rich, or famous, or educated, with an important job in a big city.... The humble do not deserve prejudice.

And the non-humble do?

Jorddyn
07-02-2009, 03:08 PM
Ridiculing someone specific for being judgemental and arrogant, which are character flaws, is a far cry from actual prejudice of assuming everyone of a group is the same way, or to prejudge someone based on their appearance.




Liberal elites ]


Big time Democratic voter by the way, but crazy Chistian supposedly pro-life as well (he says he is prolife, but has never voted as such). He's the type that'd become a scientologist if given the opportunity, but the Christians got to him first

Right, no mocking of groups here.

ElvenFury
07-02-2009, 03:11 PM
The example is retarded. That's just how those shows work, the producers seek out the rags to riches stories, because it gets them ratings. They encourage the actors/judges to mock the contestants subtly, which then infects the sycophant audience, and then if/when they're all proven wrong it makes great TV and validates all the self righteous people like yourself at home, who then go around telling everyone about it. If you don't like being a tool, stop watching.

crb
07-02-2009, 03:16 PM
Man you suck at reading comprehension Jordan. Liberal elites isn't a deroggatory term, it is an adjective used to describe people like Al Gore or George Soros or Obama. Rich liberals. Rich liberals tend to be prejudiced against poor rural people. Me pointing that out, doesn't mean I'm mocking a group, but if I was, I would be mocking them for their prejudice.

Tom Hanks is a liberal elite, so is Al Sharpton, so is Sean Penn. I wouldn't mock them as a group because, despite being liberal, and elite, Tom Hanks is a nice guy and doesn't get nasty and bitter. But the other too, I would mock, not for being liberal, and for being elite, but for being incendiary douches.

And again, mocking my brother for his judgemental practice of religion is not mocking everyone in that religion. It is mocking a very specific person for a very specific behavior.



And the non-humble do?

Make fun of arrogant people all you want.

crb
07-02-2009, 03:18 PM
The example is retarded. That's just how those shows work, the producers seek out the rags to riches stories, because it gets them ratings. They encourage the actors/judges to mock the contestants subtly, which then infects the sycophant audience, and then if/when they're all proven wrong it makes great TV and validates all the self righteous people like yourself at home, who then go around telling everyone about it. If you don't like being a tool, stop watching.
While they do seek out human interest stories, does that mean that I'm wrong and that there isn't racism against poor white rural people in this country?

Perhaps you might like to address the point, rather than the example?

Jorddyn
07-02-2009, 03:20 PM
Man you suck at reading comprehension Jordan. Liberal elites isn't a deroggatory term

Beef Wellington isn't on the surface a derogatory term either. However, if you look at the context it was used around here in the HarmNone days, it certainly was. It's about tone and context.


Me pointing that out, doesn't mean I'm mocking a group,

You using those words while being you, does. Intent matters.


And again, mocking my brother for his judgemental practice of religion is not mocking everyone in that religion. It is mocking a very specific person for a very specific behavior.


the Christians got to him first

Tell me how that isn't mocking Christians. They "got to him"? You meant that in a good way, right?

ElvenFury
07-02-2009, 03:22 PM
While they do seek out human interest stories, does that mean that I'm wrong and that there isn't racism against poor white rural people in this country?

Perhaps you might like to address the point, rather than the example?

The point? You mean that people make fun of other people to make themselves feel better about themselves? Fucking news flash. A serious revelation of the century. I'd contribute more, but I'm too busy writing home to the folks about this epiphany.

Some Rogue
07-02-2009, 03:32 PM
Don't be hard on Jorddyn. She's an ignorant redneck from Iowa that fucks her cousins.

Isn't that how it usually goes? :D

Jorddyn
07-02-2009, 03:33 PM
Don't be hard on Jorddyn. She's an ignorant redneck from Iowa that fucks her cousins.


Dammit, which one of them told??

AnticorRifling
07-02-2009, 03:39 PM
Dammit, which one of them told??
The only one with enough teeth to speak clearly.

Jorddyn
07-02-2009, 03:49 PM
The only one with enough teeth to speak clearly.

This is Iowa, not Missouri. I have at least 2 that fit that description.

(See, mocking a group of people! It's fun!)

Nieninque
07-02-2009, 04:41 PM
While they do seek out human interest stories, does that mean that I'm wrong and that there isn't racism against poor white rural people in this country?

Perhaps you might like to address the point, rather than the example?

There isn't racism, but there is probably class issues and snobbery.

Clove
07-02-2009, 04:51 PM
Man you suck at reading comprehension Jordan. Liberal elites isn't a deroggatory term, it is an adjective...What a weak argument. And "nigger" is a noun. The discussion isn't about grammar, and using "liberal elite" in the context of a political argument is certainly derogatory.

Clove
07-02-2009, 04:54 PM
Gays, sorcerers, and unemployed redneck farmers all deserve not to be prejudged.We all deserve not to be "prejudged" unfortunately you can't legislate respect. You can, however, legislate against discrimatory action.

LMingrone
07-02-2009, 05:02 PM
Since I live in New Haven, I've been paying close attention to this for a while. Colbert addressed it last night.

I really can't believe it was a split decision. Even though the test was completely stupid, and the questions on it had nothing to do with saving lives, there was no reason to bring this to Supreme.

I have a friend that has been trying to become a firefighter for a while in New Haven. Big, strong kid...set records on three of the physical tests. Didn't make it because of asking people how to spell words on a FIREFIGHTER TEST. I'd rather have him coming to save me than someone who can spell.

radamanthys
07-02-2009, 05:12 PM
People are not allowed to make decisions based on their prejudice. There's a system to deal with that, if it happens.

People are allowed to think, feel and say what they want without governmental interference. I can walk down the street screaming "nigger, nigger, nigger, kike, faggot! I wish they would all drop dead!".

So if people want to be racist (against whites or blacks), we can't do anything about it, legislation-wise.


Separate (blacks deserve... yada yada) but equal, I guess.

radamanthys
07-02-2009, 05:26 PM
Since I live in New Haven, I've been paying close attention to this for a while. Colbert addressed it last night.

I really can't believe it was a split decision. Even though the test was completely stupid, and the questions on it had nothing to do with saving lives, there was no reason to bring this to Supreme.

I have a friend that has been trying to become a firefighter for a while in New Haven. Big, strong kid...set records on three of the physical tests. Didn't make it because of asking people how to spell words on a FIREFIGHTER TEST. I'd rather have him coming to save me than someone who can spell.

Education is important. Idiots fuck up simple shit.

LMingrone
07-02-2009, 05:31 PM
Education is important. Idiots fuck up simple shit.

Agreed, completely. I'd just rather have someone who understands building construction and can physically do this particular job, as apposed to someone who can spell. But you're correct, I don't want a morAn trying to save my family.

thefarmer
07-02-2009, 06:28 PM
People are allowed to think, feel and say what they want without governmental interference. I can walk down the street screaming "nigger, nigger, nigger, kike, faggot! I wish they would all drop dead!".
.

You can think and feel what you want, but no, I don't think you could go down the street yelling those things without being arrested.

You might not be arrested for a hate crime (but possible, depending on the people around you and where you were), but probably causing a public disturbance or some such.

Tea & Strumpets
07-02-2009, 08:37 PM
Since I live in New Haven, I've been paying close attention to this for a while. Colbert addressed it last night.

I really can't believe it was a split decision. Even though the test was completely stupid, and the questions on it had nothing to do with saving lives, there was no reason to bring this to Supreme.



They showed one question on Colbert last night, and I suspect they may have picked that one for a reason. I agree that the question did seem a bit silly and unrelated to fire fighting, but I don't know if the entire test was composed of that type of questions.

On a tangent here...where do I find a job where I can get a promotion by taking a test that includes spelling questions? That seems completely wacko.

4a6c1
07-02-2009, 08:51 PM
We all deserve not to be "prejudged" unfortunately you can't legislate respect. You can, however, legislate against discrimatory action.

Hmmm. Prejudged. It seems to me we all make judgments all day to protect ourselves and our families, we just dont like to see it in public policy.

If you were waiting for a light and a guy was walking towards your car in a big city would you check to make sure all the car doors were locked? He could just be crossing the street, but you cant tell yet.

Make a judgement call. Now tell me if his clothing, skin color and general demeanor would affect your choice. There are hundreds of possibilities. Under what conditions would you absolutely trust this stranger with your personal welfare enough to NOT LOCK THE DOOR.




I have no point valid to the argument of the thread (if there is one), I just object to people objecting to judgements. :D

Warriorbird
07-02-2009, 09:08 PM
You can choose not to live in a big city. I wouldn't leave my door open in any of them. That's just stupid. I don't think it has to do with race... it has to do with crime.

radamanthys
07-02-2009, 09:22 PM
You can choose not to live in a big city. I wouldn't leave my door open in any of them. That's just stupid. I don't think it has to do with race... it has to do with crime.

She's saying, consider some guy was walking the street as you were leaving your apartment. Would you be more prone to double check if it was a black guy rather than a white guy?

4a6c1
07-02-2009, 09:27 PM
Criminals dont actually wear their crimes on their foreheads. I mean, usually. You have to determine when you might be in danger by making broad sweeping judgements upon the people around you based on demographics, statistics and common sense (avoid the one armed man).

One more example, a much looser interpretation of my point and it has absolutely nothing to do with race, how do you determine who you are going to be friends with and who to avoid? (Answer: You make judgements.)

Judgements are not bad. They are necessary.


He's saying, consider some guy was walking the street as you were leaving your apartment. Would you be more prone to double check if it was a black guy rather than a white guy?

YOU CANT GIVE ME A SCENARIO WITHOUT ANSWERING MY SCENARIO. Thats cheating.

*edited the other post for clarity

Warriorbird
07-02-2009, 10:16 PM
I sold security systems for a while. I'm petrified of anybody in a city.

What race and gender are most serial killers?

Androidpk
07-02-2009, 10:23 PM
White males?

Warriorbird
07-02-2009, 10:25 PM
Not too hard to guess.

Clove
07-02-2009, 10:57 PM
I have no point valid to the argument of the thread (if there is one), I just object to people objecting to judgements. :D


Judgment - noun: a) the process of forming an opinion or evaluation by discerning and comparing b) an opinion or estimate so formed

Discerning - adjective: showing insight and understanding

Prejudice noun: a) preconceived judgment or opinion b) an adverse opinion or leaning formed without just grounds or before sufficient knowledge c) an instance of such judgment or opinion d) an irrational attitude of hostility directed against an individual, a group, a race, or their supposed characteristicsI object to people who object to judgments too. Fortunately we were talking about prejudices which are subtly different. That isn't to say that prejudices are always wrong. In the sense of preconceived opinions prejudices are essential to our lives; but when applied to a class of people with intent to discriminate against, yes they are bad.

radamanthys
07-02-2009, 11:05 PM
I sold security systems for a while. I'm petrified of anybody in a city.

What race and gender are most serial killers?

Crime statistics aren't the most compelling argument to vilify the white man.

Gan
07-02-2009, 11:18 PM
Not everything is about "liberal/conservative."

This, in application, is pretty funny coming from you.

TheEschaton
07-02-2009, 11:45 PM
Crime statistics aren't the most compelling argument to vilify the white man.

That's cause white men have made all their crimes legal. :)

-TheE-

radamanthys
07-02-2009, 11:47 PM
That's cause white men have made all their crimes legal. :)

-TheE-

Yea, I've been advocating decriminalization of armed robbery for a while now.

(A providence of the impoverished, fwiw)

Warriorbird
07-03-2009, 10:31 AM
This, in application, is pretty funny coming from you.

You too.... but I still believe it. Both us aren't quite as trapped in the siege mentality as crb. We accept that there are problems in America that aren't due to the demonized 'other side.'

Daniel
07-05-2009, 06:55 PM
Hmmm. Prejudged. It seems to me we all make judgments all day to protect ourselves and our families, we just dont like to see it in public policy.

If you were waiting for a light and a guy was walking towards your car in a big city would you check to make sure all the car doors were locked? He could just be crossing the street, but you cant tell yet.

Make a judgement call. Now tell me if his clothing, skin color and general demeanor would affect your choice. There are hundreds of possibilities. Under what conditions would you absolutely trust this stranger with your personal welfare enough to NOT LOCK THE DOOR.




I have no point valid to the argument of the thread (if there is one), I just object to people objecting to judgements. :D

Does anyone else find it surprising that the same people who will argue one day that racism does not really exist in America are the same ones who will argue that being prejudiced is okay the next?

I know I don't.

4a6c1
07-05-2009, 07:32 PM
http://i682.photobucket.com/albums/vv183/rojodisco/ballz.jpg

Disclaimer: No balls of any color were harmed in the making of this post.

radamanthys
07-05-2009, 07:59 PM
Does anyone else find it surprising that the same people who will argue one day that racism does not really exist in America are the same ones who will argue that being prejudiced is okay the next?

I know I don't.

Acknowledging inherent prejudices doesn't equate to endorsement. In fact, it's usually the opposite- when one is aware of these, they can act against them within themselves. It's better than blaming an entire race for every failure.

Daniel
07-05-2009, 08:02 PM
Acknowledging inherent prejudices doesn't equate to endorsement. In fact, it's usually the opposite- when one is aware of these, they can act against them within themselves. It's better than blaming an entire race for every failure.

If you say so.

Warriorbird
07-05-2009, 08:32 PM
I'm sorry Daniel. At the end of the day crb is still mad that he can't make jokes about black people.

I blame society.

radamanthys
07-05-2009, 08:39 PM
If you say so.

I did, I do, and I will.

thefarmer
07-05-2009, 08:45 PM
I'm sorry Daniel. At the end of the day crb is still mad that he can't make jokes about black people.

I blame society.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yowz5wpDCvM&feature=related

Stretch
07-05-2009, 10:13 PM
Racists are destroying the US.

That and those dirty Mexicans.

radamanthys
07-05-2009, 10:30 PM
Racists are destroying the US.

That and those dirty Mexicans.

http://www.humorscore.com/uploads/thumbs/84a890d1237a3d36b102a8885086ccfb_TheyTookOurJobs.f lv.large.jpg
They took our JEEEEEARRRBS!

Parkbandit
07-05-2009, 10:31 PM
Does anyone else find it surprising that the same people who will argue one day that racism does not really exist in America are the same ones who will argue that being prejudiced is okay the next?

I know I don't.

I read over all the posts and didn't find anyone who claimed that racism does not really exist in America. If you could quote the posts you are referring to, I'd love to respond.

Or is this another one of your "Well, you meant to say it" type of claims?

Parkbandit
07-05-2009, 10:33 PM
You too.... but I still believe it. Both us aren't quite as trapped in the siege mentality as crb. We accept that there are problems in America that aren't due to the demonized 'other side.'

:rofl:

Of course you aren't....

Daniel
07-05-2009, 10:37 PM
I read over all the posts and didn't find anyone who claimed that racism does not really exist in America. If you could quote the posts you are referring to, I'd love to respond.

Or is this another one of your "Well, you meant to say it" type of claims?

Different thread. Please try and keep up.

Parkbandit
07-05-2009, 10:40 PM
How many positive things have you said about black people on these boards?

:D

How many positive things have you said about Irish people on these boards?

How many positive things have you said about Asian people on these boards?

How many positive things have you said about Australian people on these boards?

How many positive things have you said about Canadian people on these boards?

How many positive things have you said about Hispanic people on these boards?

How many positive things have you said about American Indians on these boards?

How many positive things have you said about Eskimo people on these boards?

How many positive things have you said about homosexual people on these boards?

How many positive things have you said about Muslim people on these boards?

How many positive things have you said about Catholic people on these boards?

How many positive things have you said about old people on these boards?



I'm sure you had a point.. just a real stupid one.

Parkbandit
07-05-2009, 10:41 PM
Different thread. Please try and keep up.

Ah.. feel free to quote that post then.

4a6c1
07-05-2009, 10:48 PM
I like Eskimos.

Daniel
07-05-2009, 10:51 PM
I like Eskimos.

Seconded.

Gan
07-05-2009, 11:04 PM
How many positive things have you said about black people on these boards?

:D

I cant recall a thread about loving or hating any specific race, creed, culture, etc. (except for perhaps rednecks)

I only vaguely recall a thread where Asian people were mocked (Stretch/dog eating, etc.).

:shrug:

Parkbandit
07-05-2009, 11:09 PM
I cant recall a thread about loving or hating any specific race, creed, culture, etc. (except for perhaps rednecks)

I only vaguely recall a thread where Asian people were mocked (Stretch/dog eating, etc.).

:shrug:

Now now.. let's not let facts get in the way.

Kuyuk
07-05-2009, 11:32 PM
I reprimanded someone about using the term 'colored' the other week.


K.

Keller
07-06-2009, 07:49 AM
I reprimanded someone about using the term 'colored' the other week.


K.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/theoffice/characters/images/gareth_stare_640.jpg

is all I can think about when someone says the word "coloreds."

AnticorRifling
07-06-2009, 07:51 AM
I prefer to be called Anglo-Saxon American, since caucasian doesn't have the word American in it and every other "race" on a demographic survey does I'm offended.

Gan
07-06-2009, 08:47 AM
I prefer to be called Anglo-Saxon American, since caucasian doesn't have the word American in it and every other "race" on a demographic survey does I'm offended.

I prefer European American. Since my ancestors came from Europe. And I also pee in the upright position. And WTF is up with being caucasian. I dont have any asian ancestry.

Warriorbird
07-06-2009, 02:50 PM
Funny, Parkbandit.... I can recall you complaining about black people a lot of times.

As you've clearly proven... the absence of one thing doesn't mean the absence of another thing.

:D

Cute neg rep too.

Jorddyn
07-06-2009, 03:07 PM
I only vaguely recall a thread where Asian people were mocked (Stretch/dog eating, etc.).



Is it really mocking if it is true?

Oh, and heretofor, I'm an Irish-German Iowan-American. I insist this be added as an option on census forms.

Methais
07-06-2009, 03:19 PM
I prefer to be called Anglo-Saxon American, since caucasian doesn't have the word American in it and every other "race" on a demographic survey does I'm offended.

I once told someone I was caucasian, and they thought the term meant a gay guy from Asia and that it was spelled COCKASIAN.

WHITE PEOPLE AREN'T ASIAN SO WHY IS IT CALLED CAUCASIAN!!!!!!!!!!!11??!?E?R/fg/

Jorddyn
07-06-2009, 03:45 PM
I once told someone I was caucasian, and they thought the term meant a gay guy from Asia and that it was spelled COCKASIAN.

WHITE PEOPLE AREN'T ASIAN SO WHY IS IT CALLED CAUCASIAN!!!!!!!!!!!11??!?E?R/fg/

After a mountain range (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasus) somewhere either sort of close to or thousands of miles from where our ancestors lived, depending on lineage.

Makes tons of sense, I know.

4a6c1
07-06-2009, 03:53 PM
This convo is funny because I always used to pencil in the *Other box and write next to it: Irish American.

I refuse to be just like everyone else on paper when I'm the only white person I know who can make a pipe bomb.

I stopped doing it after they paid special attention to me in the interview room for my security clearance.

4a6c1
07-06-2009, 03:54 PM
After a mountain range (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasus) somewhere either sort of close to or thousands of miles from where our ancestors lived, depending on lineage.

Makes tons of sense, I know.

The russians say it like this...KAVKAZ.

Jorddyn
07-06-2009, 04:09 PM
The russians say it like this...KAVKAZ.

Kavkazian sounds way cooler than Caucasian.

ClydeR
07-06-2009, 04:14 PM
I like Eskimos.

I like some of their contributions (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77xckv1ZXoM) to our American cuisine. American is supposed to be a melting pot (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWJ4udW41Ns), not a conglomeration of cultures.

Bhuryn
07-06-2009, 04:15 PM
I tell everyone one I'm Norse.

Methais
07-06-2009, 04:27 PM
Tell them you're a Half-Elf.

4a6c1
07-06-2009, 04:33 PM
I like some of their contributions (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77xckv1ZXoM) to our American cuisine. American is supposed to be a melting pot (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWJ4udW41Ns), not a conglomeration of cultures.

:lol:

Clove
07-07-2009, 10:13 PM
Kavkazian sounds way cooler than Caucasian.Yeah but then they'd know you were Russian...

Gan
07-07-2009, 11:29 PM
Tell them you're a Half-Elf.


http://www.lessthanmotivational.com/images//2009/04/hot-elf-chicks-demotivational-poster.jpg

Parkbandit
08-01-2009, 02:55 PM
Funny, Parkbandit.... I can recall you complaining about black people a lot of times.

As you've clearly proven... the absence of one thing doesn't mean the absence of another thing.

:D

Cute neg rep too.

Can't believe I missed this post.

Feel free to quote a post by me that I was complaining about "black people" and not about a specific idiot who happened to be black.

radamanthys
08-01-2009, 04:04 PM
Can't believe I missed this post.

Feel free to quote a post by me that I was complaining about "black people" and not about a specific idiot who happened to be black.

This post makes you racist. Don't you know that if you criticize a black man, it's racist? That being Republican (which you are, and you're posting) is racist? That most robberies occur in parks, and also most robberies are committed by blacks, so your entire avatar is racist too? You live and breathe racism, man.

The ideas in this post are brought to you by: any fucking douche who thinks any of those kinds of things.

Methais
08-01-2009, 04:42 PM
This post makes you racist. Don't you know that if you're white, you're racist?

Fixed.

4a6c1
08-01-2009, 04:49 PM
I'm not white, I'm Irish American.

Methais
08-01-2009, 05:04 PM
I'm white but was born in Africa, so that makes me African-American.

radamanthys
08-01-2009, 05:15 PM
Fixed.

No, apparently you can fix it by being a white Democrat. They like to give things to black people, so they can't be racist. It assuages the guilt. Didn't you know?

Parkbandit
08-01-2009, 06:24 PM
No, apparently you can fix it by being a white Democrat. They like to give things to black people, so they can't be racist. It assuages the guilt. Didn't you know?

It's far easier to call someone a racist than it is to intelligently debate race and race issues.. that's page 1, paragraph 1,m sentence 1 out of the "How to be a Liberal Shrill" handbook.

radamanthys
08-01-2009, 06:58 PM
It's far easier to call someone a racist than it is to intelligently debate race and race issues.. that's page 1, paragraph 1,m sentence 1 out of the "How to be a Liberal Shrill" handbook.

It goes beyond simple combativeness.

radamanthys
08-01-2009, 07:02 PM
http://www.delta4.icom43.net/images/fullsize/spot_the_racist.jpg

Gan
08-01-2009, 09:59 PM
I'm European American.

Or Texan.

Whichever you prefer.

Bhuryn
08-01-2009, 10:20 PM
I prefer the term collectivism because it more inclusive.

crb
08-02-2009, 05:00 PM
http://www.delta4.icom43.net/images/fullsize/spot_the_racist.jpg

winner

Daniel
08-03-2009, 12:33 AM
Hahahaha. This thread is comedy gold. Help! Help! the white man is being oppressed.

But seriously, CRB if you want I can teach you how to dance. Call it an olive branch if you will. We'll be like that one lame ass movie where will smith teaches the fat white dude how to dance. We can even post pictures on the internet.

Methais
08-03-2009, 12:36 AM
But seriously, CRB if you want I can teach you how to dance. Call it an olive branch if you will. We'll be like that one lame ass movie where will smith teaches the fat white dude how to dance. We can even post pictures on the internet.

Is that how your avatar came about?

Daniel
08-03-2009, 12:37 AM
Yes. I'm a good samaritan

Bhuryn
08-03-2009, 12:41 AM
Hahahaha. This thread is comedy gold. Help! Help! the white man is being oppressed.

But seriously, CRB if you want I can teach you how to dance. Call it an olive branch if you will. We'll be like that one lame ass movie where will smith teaches the fat white dude how to dance. We can even post pictures on the internet.

Bullshit. White men can't dance. It goes along with the whole jumping thing. They're not mutually exclusive.

Parkbandit
08-03-2009, 08:00 AM
Hahahaha. This thread is comedy gold. Help! Help! the white man is being oppressed.


That poster pissed you off.. didn't it. I bet you picked the white guy.

AnticorRifling
08-03-2009, 08:04 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2nTbqbtGug

4a6c1
08-03-2009, 09:34 AM
There arent any blacks in that spelling bee!!!! RACIST!!

Mabus
08-03-2009, 04:49 PM
But seriously, CRB if you want I can teach you how to dance.
Got a video presentation for your perspective student, Sir Nose D'Voidoffunk?

Don't make me shoot you with the bop gun!

:)

Bhuryn
08-03-2009, 04:56 PM
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3689560270595414198

Daniel
08-04-2009, 11:54 PM
That poster pissed you off.. didn't it. I bet you picked the white guy.

I don't know what you mean. Pictures are disabled where I'm at.

Parkbandit
08-05-2009, 08:21 AM
I don't know what you mean. Pictures are disabled where I'm at.

Riiiiiiight.

Use your iPhone..

Daniel
08-05-2009, 09:01 AM
Riiiiiiight.

Use your iPhone..

Rather not spend $19.98 a mb. feel free to paraphrase though.

radamanthys
08-05-2009, 12:39 PM
Rather not spend $19.98 a mb. feel free to paraphrase though.

You unlock it? I thought ATT required the $30/mo unlimited data plan for those things.

Parkbandit
08-05-2009, 02:00 PM
You unlock it? I thought ATT required the $30/mo unlimited data plan for those things.

I seriously have no idea what the fuck he's talking about. AT&T requires internet access on all of it's iPhone plans... which is all it takes to view the thread WITH pictures.

Bhuryn
08-05-2009, 02:03 PM
I seriously have no idea what the fuck he's talking about. AT&T requires internet access on all of it's iPhone plans... which is all it takes to view the thread WITH pictures.

Unless you jailbreak it and use a sim from another phone.

Daniel
08-05-2009, 11:39 PM
Or unless I'm in a third world country that restricts access to such things. Honestly, I have no idea what you are referencing.

Parkbandit
08-06-2009, 08:20 AM
Or unless I'm in a third world country that restricts access to such things. Honestly, I have no idea what you are referencing.

I didn't know you were in Washington, DC.. my bad.

Daniel
08-06-2009, 08:29 AM
I didn't know you were in Washington, DC.. my bad.

zing!

Gan
08-06-2009, 08:44 AM
Maybe Obama can go after universal data plans for Iphones next.