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ClydeR
06-06-2009, 11:00 AM
On Saturday, June 6, pro-lifers across the country will be participating in the largest protest ever against the birth control pill and other birth control products. Last year, participants across the United States shared the facts on exactly how the pill kills babies. This year, we will expose the sordid details surrounding the tragic effects these chemicals have on women.

More... (http://www.thepillkills.com)

It's going to be bigger this year! It might even rival the tea parties that shook the nation in April.

Also, I think it's smart to focus on how the pill hurts women. Last year's protest focused on how the pill kills babies.

The pill kills women by causing or increasing the risk for heart disease, breast cancer, cervical cancer, high blood pressure and liver problems, among others.

In case you missed last year's pro-life protests, here's a reminder of how the pill chemically aborts children.


But the "fertilized ovum," i.e., very young preborn human, does not implant in the wall of the uterus until five to nine days of age.

Meanwhile, one way the birth control pill works is it makes the wall of the uterus impermeable to implantation, in which case the very young preborn human is aborted.

More... (http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=66215)

This whole problem with the pill killing babies and women started in the 1960s when a very liberal supreme court -- much more liberal than the one we have today -- ruled that the Constitution requires that everybody have access to the pill. They either didn't consider or didn't know how dangerous the pill was.

You don't have to be a legal scholar to know how ridiculous that ruling was. The Founding Fathers never heard of the pill. If you were to go back in time and ask the Founding Fathers, "Did you mean to say in the Constitution that everybody has right to take a pill that kills babies and the women who take it?" I can guarantee you that without hesitation they would all say no. We were getting close to a supreme court that would say no today. If we hadn't elected Obama, we would be even closer with the resignation of judge Souter.

bluesmith
06-06-2009, 11:03 AM
Yes. Brilliant. The pill kills women. Thanks, Clyde, for consistently trying to set the world back to the good old 19th century.

radamanthys
06-06-2009, 11:12 AM
I wish there was a male birth control option that didn't involve a meeting of a knife and my junk.

MrTastyHead
06-06-2009, 11:17 AM
Anal sex?

Bobmuhthol
06-06-2009, 11:23 AM
<<I wish there was a male birth control option that didn't involve a meeting of a knife and my junk.>>

http://www.trojancondoms.com/

I love rubbers. They keep me in the game.

radamanthys
06-06-2009, 11:23 AM
Anal sex?

It works, but not all girls like it that way. Not for lack of trying, or anything.

Warriorbird
06-06-2009, 11:38 AM
A good ClydeR post. Shocking!

ViridianAsp
06-06-2009, 11:45 AM
I wish there was a male birth control option that didn't involve a meeting of a knife and my junk.

My fiance had it done...it took like twenty mintues, they make an inch wide incision and use a laser...

A LASER. and then after two weeks I believe you never have to worry about knocking someone up again.

Plus I don't have to take birth control which makes me all sorts of emotional crazy.

MrTastyHead
06-06-2009, 11:50 AM
That's not helpful for people who want to sperminate the ladies, just not right now.

So far I've been lucky with the ladies liking the buttsecks. The first girl I lived with could actually orgasm through straight anal intercourse, which was helpful because we couldn't afford condoms.

...


Anyway...

MrTastyHead
06-06-2009, 11:51 AM
Oh, right. Birth control > starving babies.

Parkbandit
06-06-2009, 11:51 AM
It works, but not all girls like it that way. Not for lack of trying, or anything.

Pretty sure he wasn't talking about girls..

MrTastyHead
06-06-2009, 11:57 AM
AHA gays are funny.

For somebody who likes to call people "boy" you can be pretty juvenile.

ViridianAsp
06-06-2009, 12:00 PM
That's not helpful for people who want to sperminate the ladies, just not right now.

So far I've been lucky with the ladies liking the buttsecks. The first girl I lived with could actually orgasm through straight anal intercourse, which was helpful because we couldn't afford condoms.

...


Anyway...


Babies are cute, but evil. I have a child, in six years he'll be a teenager...

Teenagers are the devil.

Trust me, you don't really want to have them.

Parkbandit
06-06-2009, 01:34 PM
AHA gays are funny.

For somebody who likes to call people "boy" you can be pretty juvenile.

I guess this isn't the time to point out why "girls" that are with you would rather have anal sex from you than regular. It might have to do with small things in tight holes is better than small things in normal sized holes.

:O

MrTastyHead
06-06-2009, 02:21 PM
I said they like anal sex, not prefer.

OMG You put quotes around girls! ROFLCOPTER

Seriously, how old are you? Implying somebody is gay and therefor a lesser person is not amusing.

Bobmuhthol
06-06-2009, 02:24 PM
Only if you're gay.

LMingrone
06-06-2009, 02:33 PM
This shit makes me angry for one reason. There's two Planned Parenthood's near me. I have to drive there to get my girls' pill. This douche is sitting outside EVERYDAY with a van covered with pictures of dead babies and harasses every female that walks in there. There's also a pro-lifer that actually dresses in an authentic police uniform...badge and all, that tells people they can't get near the building.

Those bitches don't mess with me anymore. Telling them you'll kill them and you don't care if you get arrested works.

Yollia
06-06-2009, 03:17 PM
Let's protest sex education. Pubescent teenagers should obviously only be told that they shouldn't have sex until marriage, that way when they DO have sex without marriage they get STDs and have babies. If they have babies they'll learn to be responsible, or at least some deserving family will get the accidental child they always wanted.

There aren't nearly enough homeless/orphaned/unwanted children in this world, and families who want to adopt are suffering because of it. Also, I'm sure everyone will agree that the human population is rather small, only double what it was in the 50's, and most of the world has a population density of less than 2500 per square mile. Surely we can fill in those empty spaces!

STDs were clearly created by God to punish people who have sex with multiple partners, and AIDS especially for homosexuals, who deserve to die a horrible death for their abominable sins. So0called "protection" and "safe sex" are just code phrases liberals use to mean "hedonistic sex that is intended only for pleasure." Sex was meant to be PRODUCTIVE, and PAINFUL for the sinners who do it for fun.

Dhuul
06-06-2009, 03:19 PM
I think we have the formative beginnings of a "think tank" right here..

Daniel
06-06-2009, 03:33 PM
Let's protest sex education. Pubescent teenagers should obviously only be told that they shouldn't have sex until marriage, that way when they DO have sex without marriage they get STDs and have babies. If they have babies they'll learn to be responsible, or at least some deserving family will get the accidental child they always wanted.

There aren't nearly enough homeless/orphaned/unwanted children in this world, and families who want to adopt are suffering because of it. Also, I'm sure everyone will agree that the human population is rather small, only double what it was in the 50's, and most of the world has a population density of less than 2500 per square mile. Surely we can fill in those empty spaces!

STDs were clearly created by God to punish people who have sex with multiple partners, and AIDS especially for homosexuals, who deserve to die a horrible death for their abominable sins. So0called "protection" and "safe sex" are just code phrases liberals use to mean "hedonistic sex that is intended only for pleasure." Sex was meant to be PRODUCTIVE, and PAINFUL for the sinners who do it for fun.


Is this serious? Just reading it makes me think so, but seeing all the red bubbles make me think twice.

Yollia
06-06-2009, 03:36 PM
Is this serious? Just reading it makes me think so, but seeing all the red bubbles make me think twice.

Reread it, I tried to put in as much sarcasm as I could without being obnoxious. Who could possibly think those are good ideas?

Daniel
06-06-2009, 03:40 PM
Heh. Yea.

radamanthys
06-06-2009, 03:49 PM
Reread it, I tried to put in as much sarcasm as I could without being obnoxious. Who could possibly think those are good ideas?

The same religious zealots who used to burn the condoms distributed in Africa for AIDS prevention?

Ravenstorm
06-06-2009, 03:54 PM
There's also a pro-lifer that actually dresses in an authentic police uniform...badge and all, that tells people they can't get near the building.

I'm pretty sure that's illegal and you should inform the police if you haven't already.

Yollia
06-06-2009, 04:03 PM
The same religious zealots who used to burn the condoms distributed in Africa for AIDS prevention?

HIV/AIDS treatment would be far more useful than condoms in parts of Africa. Many people there are actually TRYING to have children when they transmit HIV, and it's usually passed from a man to a woman, or a woman to her child. It's not a "gay thing" there.

Allereli
06-06-2009, 04:39 PM
funny, I won't ever have kids in the future if I don't take birth control now.

Yollia
06-06-2009, 04:40 PM
funny, I won't ever have kids in the future if I don't take birth control now.

Why? Medical problem?

Stanley Burrell
06-06-2009, 04:41 PM
I was bored once, some girl gave me a birth control pill and I ate it.

That's a great story.

Edit: I was a little bitch and only ate half of one, I was like, "This is going to make me grow a vagina on each nipple." It was, and is, a very good story.

radamanthys
06-06-2009, 04:57 PM
I was bored once, some girl gave me a birth control pill and I ate it.

That's a great story.

Edit: I was a little bitch and only ate half of one, I was like, "This is going to make me grow a vagina on each nipple." It was, and is, a very good story.

You should turn off safe search and google image "shitting dick nipples". You won't be disappointed. Perplexed, perhaps, but not disappointed.

Mighty Nikkisaurus
06-06-2009, 05:51 PM
funny, I won't ever have kids in the future if I don't take birth control now.

In this vein, a lot of women who have IF (infertility) issues rely on birth control pills to get them ovulating regularly so they can time everything appropriately. Without the pill none of them would be able to have kids, either.

Then again, there are a lot of religious crazies out there who are against IVF/IF treatments due to it "not being in God's plan."

Riiight.

iJin
06-06-2009, 06:48 PM
Fuck having to remember taking a pill everyday. I'd take the shot.

diethx
06-06-2009, 06:55 PM
Except the shot makes you get your period only once every three months.

iJin
06-06-2009, 06:56 PM
And that's bad?!

diethx
06-06-2009, 06:58 PM
Uh, were you not responding to Nikki?

CrystalTears
06-06-2009, 06:59 PM
And the shot can lead to side effects, such as weight gain. A coworker was telling me how she was on the shot and it had her gain over 50 pounds. She's lost it since then and no longer doing the shot because she said the side effects weren't worth not having your period for a few months.

iJin
06-06-2009, 07:09 PM
Nah. I wasn't responding to Nikki. Just stating really. And the only way you gain weight on the shot is through craving. If you watch what you eat and not munch you won't gain weight. I talked to a nurse about it before I got it. Cause I thought the shot itself was going to make me blow up, but two months after and nothing. Still weigh the same, so that's good. Although the first two weeks I wanted taco bell pretty bad but resisted. Heh.

CrystalTears
06-06-2009, 07:13 PM
Okay so you're part of the 30% of the women who don't gain weight. Go you. But I'm just biased as I think it's unnatural to force your body to not have a monthly menstrual cycle.

diethx
06-06-2009, 07:18 PM
Nah. I wasn't responding to Nikki. Just stating really. And the only way you gain weight on the shot is through craving. If you watch what you eat and not munch you won't gain weight. I talked to a nurse about it before I got it. Cause I thought the shot itself was going to make me blow up, but two months after and nothing. Still weigh the same, so that's good. Although the first two weeks I wanted taco bell pretty bad but resisted. Heh.

Ok, and wrong. It has nothing to do with cravings. There's some mechanism in the medicine that increases your number of fat cells. You can gain weight while still maintaining a reasonable diet.

One thing my doc suggested years ago was to increase exercise, especially weight-bearing exercise (but that part was mostly because of the bone loss risk).

iJin
06-06-2009, 07:24 PM
Of course every women is different, but I see that happening as well. I guess I haven't seen any weight gain since I've been going to the gym as well.

Isn't the bone density risk more affected on women who are older though? Doc told me that. I was wondering if I had to double intake milk or something.

CrystalTears
06-06-2009, 07:27 PM
Of course every women is different, but I see that happening as well. I guess I haven't seen any weight gain since I've been going to the gym as well.

Isn't the bone density risk more affected on women who are older though? Doc told me that. I was wondering if I had to double intake milk or something.
No, age has no bearing. Actually it's just as bad if you're young because you're still growing bone. And the bone loss is irreversible.

diethx
06-06-2009, 07:30 PM
No, age has no bearing. Actually it's just as bad if you're young because you're still growing bone. And the bone loss is irreversible.

:yeahthat:

Should be ok if you don't stay on it for more than a couple of years, though.

I'd still take a calcium supplement and do some extra weight-bearing exercise, which helps build up your bones.

Stanley Burrell
06-06-2009, 07:36 PM
You should turn off safe search and google image "shitting dick nipples". You won't be disappointed. Perplexed, perhaps, but not disappointed.

RGR that.

I am perplexed. In the nipple region.

Back
06-06-2009, 07:37 PM
Protest the pill day? Hmm. If people actually did this do you know how many unplanned babies would be born 9 months from now? Way to burden the welfare system, ClydeR!

Bobmuhthol
06-06-2009, 07:49 PM
Age has "no bearing" on bone health? Did you really just say that? Really?

MrTastyHead
06-06-2009, 07:53 PM
Age has no bearing on the loss of bone density caused by the shot.

Reading comprehension.

Proxy
06-06-2009, 08:20 PM
wow, this thread wins in so many ways.

Bobmuhthol
06-06-2009, 08:56 PM
<<Age has no bearing on the loss of bone density caused by the shot.>>

I'd like a statistical analysis of that statement, and the criteria for what constitutes a loss. Otherwise, I'm declaring it wildly fucking insane.

MrTastyHead
06-06-2009, 09:11 PM
I have no idea if it's true or not. I'm just telling you what they really just said.

Geshron
06-06-2009, 09:36 PM
Stop procreating and consuming resources and swelling the ranks of the failing Christian army. I hate kids, get a dog instead. This has to be one of the most worthless causes I have ever seen in my life. Here's an idea, why not protest starving kids who are already born? Even better, protest on behalf the ones living in OUR country. No instead, let's tell irresponsible people with carnal urges to either not have sex or to bring kids in the world they don't want so they can fill our jails and public aid rosters. I'm off to go protect some chicken embryos for an omelette, it's MURDER.

radamanthys
06-06-2009, 09:42 PM
I'm off to go protect some chicken embryos for an omelette, it's MURDER.

It's funny- there's really no difference between the vegan animal rights people and the anti-abortion people.

Geshron
06-06-2009, 09:48 PM
It's funny- there's really no difference between the vegan animal rights people and the anti-abortion people.

Haha, you got the joke sweet! Yeah, I don't exactly get the rationale for defending things like embryos, period. If cows walked upright and had causal thought there would be some SERIOUS bovine revenge anyhow. Eat 'em! As for kids well, I don't like them and I don't think just because you CAN, means you SHOULD. I certainly am not keen on paying taxes for unwanted kids, or having them break in my car, house or any other things caused by selfish and poor-parenting or more importantly, the unnecessary and arbitrary existence of the kid in the first freakin' place!

I tell you what, if I brought my girlfriend to a clinic and any protesters got in my face I would "demonstrate" what a flying armbar is for them, end of story.

diethx
06-06-2009, 09:55 PM
<<Age has no bearing on the loss of bone density caused by the shot.>>

I'd like a statistical analysis of that statement, and the criteria for what constitutes a loss. Otherwise, I'm declaring it wildly fucking insane.

Declare it whatever the fuck you want, not like it'll matter any. No matter the age of the user, there is bone loss across the boards due to the shot. If you don't use it too long and you don't start until you're done growing, the bone loss can probably be reversed by diet and exercise. However, there could be more lasting/irreversible damage in young women who's bones were still growing at time of use. But the fact remains, it doesn't matter what your age is. If you take depo, you'll experience bone loss.

NocturnalRob
06-06-2009, 09:55 PM
I would "demonstrate" what a flying armbar is for them
pwn: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8138893683141394468

Bobmuhthol
06-06-2009, 10:21 PM
<<No matter the age of the user, there is bone loss across the boards due to the shot.>>

I didn't refute this. I said the effects are not the same across all age groups, and there isn't even a definition of what is being measured (mass, density, percent mass, percent density, etc.).

Geshron
06-06-2009, 10:40 PM
pwn: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8138893683141394468

Yes! That's considered one of the best of all-time flying armbar wins. They are actually easy to pull off if you don't anticipate one coming at you haha, nice find.

btw, good to see you are still here, Bob. I remember you from when I posted here/played as Cayge. Good times.

diethx
06-06-2009, 11:07 PM
<<No matter the age of the user, there is bone loss across the boards due to the shot.>>

I didn't refute this. I said the effects are not the same across all age groups, and there isn't even a definition of what is being measured (mass, density, percent mass, percent density, etc.).

Jesus fucking christ, would it kill you to read the thread sometimes before posting?

Zuie said she thought the risk of bone loss was only for older women on the shot. CT said no, age doesn't matter. Everyone on the shot gets bone loss, except it can be more severe for young women who's bones aren't done growing. I agreed and added that Zuie should be okay if she didn't take it for too long, because it can be reversible and she should be done growing, but that she should take a calcium supplement and use weight-bearing exercises to help combat/slow it.

And then you come in and can't be bothered to read what was fucking stated, so you're all, omg did you say age has no bearing on bone health!?!??!

No one fucking said that the amount of bone loss was the same for every person, every age, whatever. Just that it's not only older women who experience bone loss, which was Zuie's original question.

Parkbandit
06-06-2009, 11:24 PM
I said they like anal sex, not prefer.

OMG You put quotes around girls! ROFLCOPTER

Seriously, how old are you? Implying somebody is gay and therefor a lesser person is not amusing.

I'm sorry I offended you so. :(

radamanthys
06-06-2009, 11:30 PM
I'm sorry I offended you so. :(

LIES! hehe

Bobmuhthol
06-06-2009, 11:43 PM
And then you come in and can't be bothered to read what was fucking stated, so you're all, omg did you say age has no bearing on bone health!?!??!

No one fucking said that the amount of bone loss was the same for every person, every age, whatever. Just that it's not only older women who experience bone loss, which was Zuie's original question.


Isn't the bone density risk more affected on women who are older though? Doc told me that.


No, age has no bearing. Actually it's just as bad if you're young because you're still growing bone. And the bone loss is irreversible.

Fuck you. You're wrong here, not me. But go ahead and tell me I didn't read it again.


And then you'll come in and try to come up with some way to turn it around on me, and you'll be all, omg can I pretend that I know wtf I am talking about?!?!?!?!


Also, just so. To the same degree as. For example, Jim's running just as fast as his friend, or He intended to give them just so much work as they could do in a day. [Late 1600s] Also see just so (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=just%20so).
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/just%20as


And so on.

Parkbandit
06-06-2009, 11:46 PM
Holy shit, Bob was able to quote something correctly for once.

http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/128343688002656250hallelujahpra.jpg

diethx
06-06-2009, 11:48 PM
Fuck you. You're wrong here, not me. But go ahead and tell me I didn't read it again.

She was asking if the risk affected older women more often than younger women. That's not the case, and it shouldn't even be called a risk since it's a guaranteed side-effect - it happens to everyone, regardless of age, so long as they take the shot. And CT was confirming that, with some extra info about how it can even be worse for younger women because of the risk to still-growing bones, which cannot repair if they are never given the chance to finish growing.

I still don't see where anyone said the degree of bone loss was the same for all ages.

So no, fuck you. Maybe try reading what's actually there and not what you want to.

Bobmuhthol
06-06-2009, 11:51 PM
Jesus Christ you're retarded.


And then you'll come in and try to come up with some way to turn it around on me, and you'll be all, omg can I pretend that I know wtf I am talking about?!?!?!?!


For good measure.

diethx
06-06-2009, 11:53 PM
Jesus Christ you're retarded.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v607/amongtheomegas/NO_U.jpg

diethx
06-06-2009, 11:55 PM
Jesus Christ you're retarded.



For good measure.

Oh and, the difference between us is, I actually know what i'm talking about. I've taken the drug and done the research and spoken with doctors. What have you done besides try to flex your tiny little epeen on this forum? Are you now majoring in pharmacology and biology along with whatever the fuck else you're studying at business school, and I just had no idea?

ORITE.

Bobmuhthol
06-06-2009, 11:58 PM
You might understand why bone loss occurs better than I do, but I very obviously have a better understanding of what words mean. I never brought biology into this.

Oh and lol, fuck off, "BUT I'M EDUCATED IN THIS!" I'm educated in statistics, and yours are wrong.

diethx
06-07-2009, 12:02 AM
You might understand why bone loss occurs better than I do, but I very obviously have a better understanding of what words mean. I never brought biology into this.

Oh and lol, fuck off, "BUT I'M EDUCATED IN THIS!" I'm educated in statistics, and yours are wrong.

You obviously don't, if you can't make it through this thread without a problem like everyone else has been able to.

No one brought up statistics, especially not me, so how can they be wrong if I didn't give any? Again, looks like you're reading what you want to, and not what's actually there. Shocker!

Bobmuhthol
06-07-2009, 12:07 AM
lolwut?

CrystalTears
06-07-2009, 06:51 AM
Jesus, shut the fuck up. DEPO causes bone loss in all ages, especially the longer you're on it. Get over it.

Fallen
06-07-2009, 07:12 AM
Why would a woman WANT to menstrate? I am assuming it is because stopping the body from having a cycle has well documented, highly statistically likely medical drawbacks. Otherwise, fuck that shit.

ElanthianSiren
06-07-2009, 09:34 AM
Why would a woman WANT to menstrate? I am assuming it is because stopping the body from having a cycle has well documented, highly statistically likely medical drawbacks. Otherwise, fuck that shit.

They may choose to for many reasons:

1. fears about endometriosis (dangerous building of the uterus' wall) that can result in extreme bleeding/anemia etc. This can happen with progesterone contraceptives like the shot (depo); I'm not 100% on triphasic pills or monophasic pills. The result is having to go in and have your uterine wall scraped, which seems like it'd be painful.

2. Mensturation is "normal". Not mensturating is not. For some women, missing a cycle feels unnatural. Keep in mind, in developed countries, many women get a period each month from 11ish on until menopause (obviously).

3. Many birth control drugs increase excretion of vitamins and minerals, like vit c and vit d.

4. Many birth control drugs bind hormones made by your body like TSH. This is one of the methods proposed for weight gain during birth control usage in some individuals and why women using estrogen BC methods will often show hypothyroid. Up TSH levels in some people = OMG I'm not releasing enough thyroid hormones = more released panic mode = more bound by estrogen not getting to the thyroid.

5. Mensturation assures people they're not pregnant. For some people this tidbit is more important than for others.

6. Clots, strokes, heart attack etc.

7. Then there's the fact that every woman's body responds to different hormones differently. Some women go nutfuck insane on all BC; others are okay with triphasics/monophasics containing estrogen. Some women really can't tolerate the shot, minis etc and have reactions to it.

These are all reasons many women choose things like an IUD, codoms, or drugs that don't keep someone from missing cycles.

Sylvan Dreams
06-07-2009, 10:00 AM
Here's my take on what ES said:


1. The endometrium is hormone-driven. That is, changes in the hormone levels in the body are what causes the thickness to change. It tends to be made less severe by a regular hormone level (such as one caused by the pill). That being said, endometriosis is when endometrium tissue is found OUTSIDE of the uterus, not when there's a "buildup" in your uterus. Not having a period does not cause your endometrium to thicken and not shed. The regular hormone level induced by the pill prevents the cyclical change in thickness.

2. The normal vs. abnormal thing is just superstition. Living in an apartment is "not normal". Eating a hamburger is "not normal". Yes, many women in the world have their period every month from 11ish onward. So what? Most of them also live in poverty with mud floors. Does that mean we should as well because "it's normal" (at least, for them it is)?

3. A vitamin supplement will help that. Most women should be taking Calcium/Vitamin D anyway, and women regularly menstruating should be taking iron.

4. Another good reason to exercise and eat properly.

5. So do pregnancy tests.

6. Everything has a risk. The risk of clots (strokes, heart attack are also included) are increased by lifestyle choices such as smoking when on the pill.

7. There's a huge number of different pills on the market, with different hormone levels. I've yet to hear of a woman that absolutely cannot be on ANY pill.

Parkbandit
06-07-2009, 10:01 AM
Way to ruin your 1337 posts on this forum.

CrystalTears
06-07-2009, 10:10 AM
5. So do pregnancy tests.If someone is concerned about getting pregnant and would like the assurance of getting their period, telling them to take a pregnancy test every month that they don't have their period is pretty ridiculous. Granted getting your period doesn't mean you're not pregnant, but chances are if you get it the following month again, it's okay.

People have their reasons for being on it, just like they have their reasons for not doing. None of them are wrong. And there ARE increased risks of taking any birth control, so some women are willing to work with the ones that have the least amount of risk. Increasing my bone loss and risking gaining weight are not worth it to me.

ElanthianSiren
06-07-2009, 10:25 AM
1. The endometrium is hormone-driven. That is, changes in the hormone levels in the body are what causes the thickness to change. It tends to be made less severe by a regular hormone level (such as one caused by the pill). That being said, endometriosis is when endometrium tissue is found OUTSIDE of the uterus, not when there's a "buildup" in your uterus. Not having a period does not cause your endometrium to thicken and not shed. The regular hormone level induced by the pill prevents the cyclical change in thickness.



1. That was a response, specifically targeting depo, which in fact, does contribute to this condition. The thing to know is to have it administered on schedule. Like I mentioned, I wasn't sure on monos or tris, but that's category GTK.

2. Fallen asked why. I answered his question. You're preaching to the choir.

3. Agreed. Again, you're preaching to the choir.

4. If you're not receiving enough TSH, your thyroid is not putting out enough thyroid hormone (T4 T3). That's more than "eat right and exercise". Low thyroid function puts someone at risk for heart attack, stroke, and a host of other issues, regardless the cause. The symptom is the abnormal weight gain in the face of eating correctly. The underlying issues aren't something to dismiss.

5. That's an option, yes, provided you've let enough time elapse to take a pregnancy test, which depends on the type you plan to take (at home, doc etc). Again, it's a woman's choice, as much as it's a woman's choice to take a pill that interrupts mensturation.

6. I never said everything didn't have a risk.

7. Fallen asked why women may choose to have a cycle monthly. I assumed he meant why they would when there are plenty of contraceptive options out there that avoid the monthly shedding etc. I didn't say ANY birth control. You may need to reread that part of my post.

Mighty Nikkisaurus
06-07-2009, 10:55 AM
7. There's a huge number of different pills on the market, with different hormone levels. I've yet to hear of a woman that absolutely cannot be on ANY pill.

It's really not a matter of cannot.

I absolutely could be on the pill. The issue is that the way it effects me is not a pleasant or nice experience.. same as for some other women. The trade off is not really "equal" there.

Plus, ES was referring to hormonal pills. There are other BC options out there for women who are more sensitive to hormones, but the fact is most of them do not do anything to eliminate menstruation in the way the pill can. But that's why a lot of women would choose to continue having their periods and use an alternative, non-hormonal method of birth control (FAM, IUD, condoms).

Tea & Strumpets
06-07-2009, 11:23 AM
Way to ruin your 1337 posts on this forum.

Don't cross me bitch, or you will be the face the wrath of my 1337 post.

NocturnalRob
06-07-2009, 11:25 AM
you will be the face the wrath of my 1337 post.
make sure to take some toefl classes before your next two posts though, k?

Parkbandit
06-07-2009, 11:49 AM
Don't cross me bitch, or you will be the face the wrath of my 1337 post.

Oh shit.. 2 more to go!

(WE SHOULD TALK ABOUT ANYTHING BUT GIRL'S PERIODS! FUCK, SHIT, DECURSE ALREADY!)

Mighty Nikkisaurus
06-07-2009, 11:53 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zh8qu7Z-NJ0

Parkbandit
06-07-2009, 12:27 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zh8qu7Z-NJ0

http://msp135.photobucket.com/albums/q144/lonely_vampire07/i_hate_you-1.jpg

ClydeR
06-07-2009, 09:25 PM
And the shot can lead to side effects, such as weight gain. A coworker was telling me how she was on the shot and it had her gain over 50 pounds. She's lost it since then and no longer doing the shot because she said the side effects weren't worth not having your period for a few months.

People who discuss stuff like that at work should be fired.

4a6c1
06-07-2009, 09:42 PM
I didnt get the red days when I was superbuff. I ran constantly and shocked my system every day of the month with something new. My body fat was right at the tenth percentile. I was in such good shape but I was exhausted literally for years. No pill. No period. No pregnant either. :D

haha @ PB

How come most men would do fair-good triage of someone on the side of the road who needed help but period blood makes you squeemish?

radamanthys
06-07-2009, 09:52 PM
I didnt get the red days when I was superbuff. I ran constantly and shocked my system every day of the month with something new. My body fat was right at the tenth percentile. I was in such good shape but I was exhausted literally for years. No pill. No period. No pregnant either. :D

haha @ PB

How come most men would do fair-good triage of someone on the side of the road who needed help but period blood makes you squeemish?

If the road ahead is red... fuck it, take it anyway.

4a6c1
06-07-2009, 09:59 PM
I think you had selective reading of my post...but i like where your mind took you.