Mister Transparency Goes Opaque

[Mabus]

Obama defends abuse photos U-turn - BBC News (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8048774.stm)
A quote from the latter part of the story:

The ACLU said it was "surprised and disappointed" by Mr Obama's decision and that it would continue to fight for the photographs' release.

[Danical]

I don't like when people refer to the president as "Mr. <soandso>." I didn't like it when they called Bush, Mr. Bush either.

When they're the president, they're the fucking president FFS. It just seems like a slap in the face. Show a little fucking respect.

Wonderful contribution to the topic at hand - I know.

[Bhuryn]

He'll gladly turn over anything that can be tied or blamed on the previous administration. You won't see anything that could cause his administration to suffer. It's politics as usual in washington -- this "transparency" is nothing new or fresh. It's just him cleaning out the closet so he can't be blamed later.

Don't think for a second I'm defending Bush though, I dislike both of them.

[Ravenstorm]

He'll gladly turn over anything that can be tied or blamed on the previous administration.

If you read it just a little more closely you'd realize he's refusing to release the photos of torture that can be tied to the Bush administration. Hence the lack of transparency being complained about.

[Mabus]

I don't like when people refer to the president as "Mr. <soandso>." I didn't like it when they called Bush, Mr. Bush either.
You mean "President Bush" or even "Former President Bush?

When they're the president, they're the fucking president FFS. It just seems like a slap in the face. Show a little fucking respect.
See my comment above.

I referred to Bush as "GW" all through his 2 terms and Clinton as "Billy" during his 2 terms. I am not about to change because you feel offended, especially when you are committing the same "offense".

How did you treat GW during his term?

Let's see:

btw - demos and Gore definately distanced themselves from Clinton and this was a major problem when Gore was running. Both analysts and Gore himself have said as much.

RE: Clinton/Bush. They're both politicians and as such they're both deceptive - it's part of the job description. What I dislike are the reasons for doing so as one was defensive maneuvering and the other offensive maneuvering.

RE: Bush. He has moreso than any president in history, in his speeches, universalized ideas/concepts which I beleive are relative. Maybe caused by increased exposure but I highly doubt it.

RE: Bush's Legacy. Of course it matters which party you are from but one important thing is this. Republicans, by and large, say the entry into Iraq was needed regardless of the WMD - they do not however, support the way in which it was conducted and still is being conducted. To use a weak analogy - it's like writing the correct answer on a math problem when your proof is completely buggered . . . you still get the answer wrong. (However, I did not support the decision to enter Iraq).

No "President Bush" there. Hmm...

The "Mister Transparency" is merely a label being used to express a political point. Deal with it.

[Mabus]

If you read it just a little more closely you'd realize he's refusing to release the photos of torture that can be tied to the Bush administration. Hence the lack of transparency being complained about.
That is exactly the point.

During his campaign "the president" (see, I can be nice!) spoke about "A new era of transparency."

Now we know exactly what he meant; That he would fight in the courts to not reveal the information his own base wants released.

Maybe he had the words in italics on his teleprompters to show he was not serious.

[Bhuryn]

If you read it just a little more closely you'd realize he's refusing to release the photos of torture that can be tied to the Bush administration. Hence the lack of transparency being complained about.

US President Barack Obama has said the release of more photos of prisoner abuse by US soldiers is "of no benefit" and may inflame opinion against the US.

He's already nailed the bush administration for it, no need to make his job harder now that everyone knows when the events too place.

[Danical]

n' stuff

JTFC, settle down cowboy. I wasn't referring to you. I was talking about journalists publishing a piece about the current president.

If I was talking about you, I would have quoted you.

Maybe take a step away from the keyboard or stop being paranoid.

EDIT: The every day person can refer to them however they want. I just think professional journalists should be held to a different standard than the average person having an everyday conversation.

[Mabus]

JTFC, settle down cowboy. I wasn't referring to you. I was talking about journalists publishing a piece about the current president.
The title was my own. It wasn't extremely clever, but I thought it had impact.

[Mabus]

He's already nailed the bush administration for it, no need to make his job harder now that everyone knows when the events too place.
The thing is, some of his far-left base is getting rather miffed at his decisions when dealing with war, and the "war on terror".

Some things teeing off a few people I know on the left:
* Gitmo still open.
* Gitmo detainees still limited access.
* Military tribunals still allowed.
* Iraq War, still going, still on Bush plan for ending.
* Afghan War expanding.
* War supplemental still separate from defense budget.
* Still wiretapping without FISA authorization.

And now a complete flip-flop on transparency when dealing with a court ordered release of these photographs.

Strange thing is that some on the right quietly applaud these decisions.

[Parkbandit]

The thing is, some of his far-left base is getting rather miffed at his decisions when dealing with war, and the "war on terror".

Some things teeing off a few people I know on the left:
* Gitmo still open.
* Gitmo detainees still limited access.
* Military tribunals still allowed.
* Iraq War, still going, still on Bush plan for ending.
* Afghan War expanding.
* War supplemental still separate from defense budget.
* Still wiretapping without FISA authorization.

And now a complete flip-flop on transparency when dealing with a court ordered release of these photographs.

Strange thing is that some on the right quietly applaud these decisions.

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