Military Burns Bibles

[ClydeR]

KABUL (Reuters) – Bibles in Afghan languages sent to a U.S. soldier at a base in Afghanistan were confiscated and destroyed to ensure that troops did not breach regulations which forbid proselytizing, a military spokeswoman said.

More... (http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090505/ts_nm/us_afghanistan_proselytising;_ylt=AoXdOH5VqVQ0i3Yg dv6GAC9Z.3QA)

A soldier's church in the United States raised money to print Bibles translated into the local languages of Afghanistan. The church shipped those Bibles to the soldier in Afghanistan so that he could distribute them to people in Afghanistan. Then several soldiers held a meeting where they discussed how important it was for them to use the opportunity of being in Afghanistan to bring people to Christ. They allowed that meeting to be filmed and they displayed the Bibles at the meeting. When the film got out, the military decided to destroy the Bibles.

I'm sure all you liberals who are against book burning will want to complain loudly about the destruction of these books.

[Jayvn]

Do you ever find any good news or do you intentionally seek out miniscule stories that your church presents to you to distribute to us? As I recall it was my job to send them to hell when I went over... not to save them.

[Lumi]

I'm curious, if there are regulations stating that soldiers aren't to be recruiting or trying to convert anyone over there, what legitimate purpose were those translated Bibles going to serve?

[Fallen]

Do you ever find any good news or do you intentionally seek out miniscule stories that your church presents to you to distribute to us? As I recall it was my job to send them to hell when I went over... not to save them.

Clyder isn't real. He doesn't have a church. He is just some regular poster on the PC using a persona to bash ultra-conservatives. If I had to pick someone crazy enough to bother with it, I would have to say Back, SB, or Ashliana. No offense to the mentioned posters, but no one else comes to mind.

[ClydeR]

I'm curious, if there are regulations stating that soldiers aren't to be recruiting or trying to convert anyone over there, what legitimate purpose were those translated Bibles going to serve?

You mean we should burn books if you don't see a "legitimate purpose" for the book?

[SolitareConfinement]

You mean we should burn books if you don't see a "legitimate purpose" for the book?

yes yes we should hell burn all books except tv guide!

[ClydeR]

Clyder isn't real. He doesn't have a church. He is just some regular poster on the PC using a persona to bash ultra-conservatives. If I had to pick someone crazy enough to bother with it, I would have to say Back, SB, or Ashliana. No offense to the mentioned posters, but no one else comes to mind.

While I applaud you actually making a contribution, you have no basis on which to attack me of the other people you mentioned. I am not a "regular poster on the PC using a persona." That is something you made up with no credible evidence--none--to support your suspicion.

Also, although I do not often agree with the other people you listed, I do like them. I respect their opinions. I've never read anything written by them that made me believe they were crazy.

[Tisket]

Just what our military needs over there...another excuse for increased violence against them.

[Lumi]

You mean we should burn books if you don't see a "legitimate purpose" for the book?

I'm not 100% they should have been -destroyed- necessarily, but that's really not what your complaint is about. It's that they were confiscated, which was absolutely the right thing to do.

Ideally, they would have been shipped back home, but by the time they were found out, destroying them was likely the most expedient course of action.

Again, I would ask what legitimate purpose they could have been serving, because I can't think of one.

[Goretawn]

In most Mulsim countries it is illegal to proselytize. In Kuwait it is a 5 year sentence, hence the low Catholic count. We are not there as missionaries, but Soldiers with a job to do.

I think it as more of a way to protect the Soldier. It suprises me that they burned them though, since to do so with the Kuran is so "offensive".

[Landrion]

Clyder isn't real. He doesn't have a church. He is just some regular poster on the PC using a persona to bash ultra-conservatives. If I had to pick someone crazy enough to bother with it, I would have to say Back, SB, or Ashliana. No offense to the mentioned posters, but no one else comes to mind.


I really thought so too, but my God, the join date is Dec 2007, who keeps up a joke this long? If ClydeR was a ruse, Id give props just for the character consistency and patience for a payoff.

[Stanley Burrell]

A soldier's church in the United States raised money to print Bibles translated into the local languages of Afghanistan. The church shipped those Bibles to the soldier in Afghanistan so that he could distribute them to people in Afghanistan. Then several soldiers held a meeting where they discussed how important it was for them to use the opportunity of being in Afghanistan to bring people to Christ. They allowed that meeting to be filmed and they displayed the Bibles at the meeting. When the film got out, the military decided to destroy the Bibles.

I'm sure all you liberals who are against book burning will want to complain loudly about the destruction of these books.

Shuttup, Stanley.

[Methais]

yes yes we should hell burn all books except tv guide!

That's right. Because if you read the TV Guide, you don't need a TV.

Right grandpa?
http://movies.infinitecoolness.com/08/thelostboys08.jpg

[Kuyuk]

Yeah, but it's not the Kuran, it's some heretic book!


K.

[TheWitch]

What was the army supposed to do, squander more taxpayer money shipping back something these soldiers weren't supposed to have in the first place?

[Goretawn]

Yeah, but it's not the Kuran, it's some heretic book!


K.


Very true. It is a pleasant book of historical fiction with good stories on morality. Yeah, I love the American Double Standard. ADS for the win!

[Methais]

Very true. It is a pleasant book of historical fiction with good stories on morality. Yeah, I love the American Double Standard. ADS for the win!

Like the entire world isn't one big double standard these days or anything.

[Goretawn]

Like the entire world isn't one big double standard these days or anything.

It is one thing for the rest of the world to have a double standard for Americans, but when we impose a double standard on ourselves, that is just wrong.

[Methais]

It is one thing for the rest of the world to have a double standard for Americans, but when we impose a double standard on ourselves, that is just wrong.

You're speaking like this is something new.

[Latrinsorm]

I'm curious, if there are regulations stating that soldiers aren't to be recruiting or trying to convert anyone over there, what legitimate purpose were those translated Bibles going to serve?There are Christians in Afghanistan. It stands to reason that during the Communist and Taliban regimes, any Bibles were destroyed and now need to be replaced, and a US soldier certainly has more access to the world economy than a nomad in the mountains. Should this soldier happen to be a Christian, he would feel naturally compelled to assist his fellow Christians.

That Central Command would feel the need to publically quash this is obvious: the appearance of impropriety should be avoided in sensitive times, and the situation in Afghanistan can certainly be described as sensitive. I don't know if the Bibles were actually burned, but that would be excessive.

[Renian]

While I applaud you actually making a contribution, you have no basis on which to attack me of the other people you mentioned. I am not a "regular poster on the PC using a persona." That is something you made up with no credible evidence--none--to support your suspicion.


You have never made a post stating who your character is in Gemstone, nor have you made a single post outside of the politics folder. You wouldn't need to if you had another account to do that now would you? Moreover, what, for all reasons, would have compelled you to make these highly right-wing posts in an obscure forum about a MUD where it will hardly make any real impact?

[Tisket]

Oh good point...how DID you find this forum, Clyde?

[ClydeR]

You have never made a post stating who your character is in Gemstone, nor have you made a single post outside of the politics folder. You wouldn't need to if you had another account to do that now would you? Moreover, what, for all reasons, would have compelled you to make these highly right-wing posts in an obscure forum about a MUD where it will hardly make any real impact?

LOL @ you thinking I am going to post personally identifiable information on the internets. There's no reason why I should try to disprove baseless paranoid accusations.

[Tisket]

Don't be a pussy. Telling us how you found this forum is not going to give away your secret identity.

And lmao @ you accusing anyone else of paranoia...

[Tisket]

You do realize that you could squash all speculation by just giving Kranar the go ahead to compare your IP with other posters right? If you are legit what would you have to lose?

[radamanthys]

Should this soldier happen to be a Christian, he would feel naturally compelled to assist his fellow Christians.


I could feel naturally compelled to mow'em down. I probably should follow the rules, though. They're there for a reason.

[Renian]

LOL @ you thinking I am going to post personally identifiable information on the internets. There's no reason why I should try to disprove baseless paranoid accusations.

I'm not asking you to give out personally identifiable information. I'm asking you give out your character name.

That, in and of itself, is the reason. This is the Gemstone IV Player's Corner. If you're not a player--or at least a former one--get the fuck out of our corner.

[Latrinsorm]

I could feel naturally compelled to mow'em down. I probably should follow the rules, though. They're there for a reason.He or she wouldn't be breaking any rules, though. You can't convert a Christian into a double Christian, although that would be pretty cool, so you can't possibly proselytize to them.

-PC's resident Quintriple Christian, Double Stamp No Erasies

[radamanthys]

He or she wouldn't be breaking any rules, though. You can't convert a Christian into a double Christian, although that would be pretty cool, so you can't possibly proselytize to them.

-PC's resident Quintriple Christian, Double Stamp No Erasies

Double Christian? Is that like a Mormon?

[Gan]

I was thinking more along the lines of a "born again" Christian.

Back for a second helping after getting out of line.

Summer rerun version.

Those I know who are born again tend to be more along the lines of ClydeR type fanatical (except in a real way).

[radamanthys]

I was thinking more along the lines of a "born again" Christian.

Back for a second helping after getting out of line.

Summer rerun version.

Those I know who are born again tend to be more along the lines of ClydeR type fanatical (except in a real way).

I dated one. For 10 months.

That was hysterical.

[Parkbandit]

I dated one. For 10 months.

That was hysterical.

I moved next door to a whole family of them..

Of course.. it can't be as bad as living across the street from a family of devout Muslims who open all the windows of the house and pray/chant 300 times a day...

[radamanthys]

I moved next door to a whole family of them..

Of course.. it can't be as bad as living across the street from a family of devout Muslims who open all the windows of the house and pray/chant 300 times a day...

Do the next door people have weekly crusades against the people across the street?

It'd be a good block party event, or something.

[Methais]

I moved next door to a whole family of them..

Of course.. it can't be as bad as living across the street from a family of devout Muslims who open all the windows of the house and pray/chant 300 times a day...

1. Put really loud radio in window 300 times a day.
2. Play Slayer in radio 300 times a day.
3. ????
4. Profit.


Do the next door people have weekly crusades against the people across the street?

I always wanted Wife Swap / Trading Spouses to swap out a jew family and a muslim family. They did jews and southern baptists, which was actually a bit of a letdown. But those jews were fucking hardcore. Kosher freaks and crazy beards and all that good shit.

[Sean of the Thread]

We only burned bibles to cook the babies we killed so we could eat them.

[Methais]

Real men eat raw babies.

[Sean of the Thread]

Cooking them to 165 degrees first killed the HIV.

[Methais]

If you were a vampire you wouldn't have to worry about that.

[Tisket]

Clyder isn't real. He doesn't have a church. He is just some regular poster on the PC using a persona to bash ultra-conservatives. If I had to pick someone crazy enough to bother with it, I would have to say Back, SB, or Ashliana. No offense to the mentioned posters, but no one else comes to mind.

I dunno, those seem too obvious...

[Back]

Clyder isn't real. He doesn't have a church. He is just some regular poster on the PC using a persona to bash ultra-conservatives. If I had to pick someone crazy enough to bother with it, I would have to say Back, SB, or Ashliana. No offense to the mentioned posters, but no one else comes to mind.

I appreciate the accusation. Really I do. ClydeR is brilliant. Kind of like the Stephen Colbert of the PC.

I have a suspicion of who it is. If I am right he has been on the PC for a very long time, does not post as his main handle often these days, and when he does he posts in the "What are you listening to?" thread.