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875000
03-15-2009, 02:42 PM
http://www.iht.com/articles/2009/03/15/america/health.php

WASHINGTON: The Obama administration is signaling to Congress that the president could support taxing some employee health benefits, as several influential lawmakers and many economists favor, to help pay for overhauling the U.S. health care system.

The proposal is politically problematic for President Barack Obama, however, since it is similar to one he denounced in the presidential campaign as "the largest middle-class tax increase in history." Most Americans with insurance get it from their employers, and taxing workers for the benefit is opposed by union leaders and some businesses.

In television advertisements last fall, Mr. Obama criticized his Republican rival for the presidency, Senator John McCain of Arizona, for proposing to tax all employer-provided health benefits. The benefits have long been tax-free, regardless of how generous they are or how much an employee earns. The advertisements did not point out that Mr. McCain, in exchange, wanted to give all families a tax credit to subsidize the purchase of coverage.

At the time, even some Obama supporters said privately that he might come to regret his position if he won the election; in effect, they said, he was potentially giving up an important option to help finance his ambitious health care agenda to reduce medical costs and to expand coverage to the 46 million uninsured Americans. Now that Mr. Obama has begun the health debate, several advisers say that while he will not propose changing the tax-free status of employee health benefits, neither would he oppose it if Congress were to do so.

At a recent congressional hearing, Senator Ron Wyden, an Oregon Democrat whose own health plan would make benefits taxable, asked Peter R. Orszag, the president's budget director, about the issue. Mr. Orszag replied that it "most firmly should remain on the table."

Mr. Orszag, an economist who has served as director of the Congressional Budget Office, has written favorably of taxing some employer-provided health benefits and using the revenue savings for other health-related incentives. So has another Obama adviser, Jason Furman, the deputy director of the White House National Economic Council.

They, like other proponents, cite evidence that tax-free benefits encourage what Mr. McCain called "gold-plated" policies, resulting in inefficient and costly demands for health care and pressure on employers to hold down workers' pay as insurance expenses rise. And, they say, the policy discriminates against those — many of whom are low-income workers — who do not have employer-provided coverage.

crb
03-15-2009, 02:57 PM
Good. This is one tax I can get behind. It is needed to create more competition in the health insurance industry and most nonpartisan economists favor it. Plus, watching Obama eat crow for adopting a good idea that he purposefully mischaracterized to win the election while maintaining with smug arrogance that he wasn't the type of politician to lie about his opponent, will be entertaining.

Daniel
03-15-2009, 03:11 PM
I'd like to hear what the "some" is.

Rocktar
03-15-2009, 06:18 PM
I'd like to hear what the "some" is.

Read "All"

TheRunt
03-16-2009, 03:40 AM
Not quite on the same topic but I'll post it here rather than starting a new thread. Obama wants U.S. soldiers to use their own personal health insurance to pay for service related injuries.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/03/10/veterans.health.insurance/

Now if thats not fucked up what is?

Parkbandit
03-16-2009, 08:53 AM
Wait.. wasn't this what Obama was most critical of McCain's healthcare plan?

That's awesome.

ElanthianSiren
03-16-2009, 09:05 AM
Not quite on the same topic but I'll post it here rather than starting a new thread. Obama wants U.S. soldiers to use their own personal health insurance to pay for service related injuries.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/03/10/veterans.health.insurance/

Now if thats not fucked up what is?

pretty fucked up; thankfully, the reps in that article were pretty adament that any bill of that nature would be DoA.

Keller
03-16-2009, 09:31 AM
Great. This was the best part of McCain's platform. I'm glad someone finally clued Obama in.

Gan
03-16-2009, 09:31 AM
Wait.. wasn't this what Obama was most critical of McCain's healthcare plan?

That's awesome.
Well you know, that was campaign talk...

Now that the election is over, its a whole new ball game!